Beating the Drum on One Side: Confusing the People on Both Sides


I think you are pretending to be unreasonable just for the heck of it. Its obvious that one doesn't need real data from the Dept of Statistics in order to demonstrate some trivial faulty reasoning and/or conclusion in an academic argument. That's what hypothetical examples are for.
 
...The difference between you and Prof Hirji is very vivid.

I can see that, Professor Hirji's Mau Mau war with the Germans is highly credible. And the famous "hypothetical Data" with four imaginary people and four imaginary answers criticizing historical paper is superb piece of argument.

kwi kwi kwi teh teh teh.
 
OK, tunangoja "full version" ya "Professor" Hirji tuione, maana hii kakiri ina makosa haifai na si yenyewe.

Kama una nia ya kuanzisha mada kuhusu Mungu na Uislam nakushauri ufunguwe nyuzi, hapa kuna ya Professor Shivji.

duh! Shivji tena? Uko active na full version hujaiona, tulio passive tumeiona!
 

Now reading the begining paragraph and the Awaz link provided. I find the irony of Dr. Hirji critism of Prof. M. Said and he is doing the same of what he criticizes, to him his motive it is all about why proferssor Said did not mention the plight of other Muslimans and in this case his people of Asian origin.
Why did he post this paper on http://www.awaazmagazine.com? Why he did not post directly to the blog of prof. Said? Check out who are the admin of the Awaaz magazine and what do they stand for?

I find it that Dr. Hirji has no guts like those of Prof. Said to say for his people and so end up to criticize him while in between the lines he hid things that he fears to say in public protecting his personal previledges he enjoys from the same system that he knows is unjust.
 
Wewe weka upendazo wacha kuhororoja na kubwabwaja.

Unaongelea alizokiri "Professor" wenu kuwa kafanya makosa ya kitoto?

Mnatamani Al Alama Mohamed Said aje mfaidike lakini hamjuwi tu namna ya kumwita awape maraha.
Hewala, basi ngoja niangalie kama mkabrasha yangu hayajaliwa na panya. Nikipata nitaweka data zake hapa, tutazifanyia ulinganifu na za Prof.

Pamoja na hayo ninatememeka sana maana tusijemweka mzee karibu na mlango wa kwend uani! sijui na sina uhakika, wanajamvi wataamua. Ngoja nifungue fungue makabrasha.

Mohamed Said, kama unazo data karibu tuwekee maana mimi lazima niingie katika kabati! muda sana
 
F.F.

Huyo Mtu mwenyewe anaitwa Matumbo ya kuharisha unadhani utapata la maana kutoka kwake???

Huyo jina lake ni matumbo.

Anakula utumbo.

Anawaza utumbo.

Na anachoandika ni utumbo vile vile kama profesa wake hijri sijui nani sijui.

People with sad destiny ni wa kupuuza au kuhurumia tuh.

Teh teh teh.

Wallahi burdani sana.
 
Hizo lugha za kifedhuri Nguruvi3 ni ishara tosha ya kuishiwa hoja.

Teh teh teh.

Mimi naona mtu wa kwanza ambae anapaswa kukaa karibu na MALIWATO NI WEWE NA LEPROFESERI WAKO ALIEKIRI NA KUOMBA RADHWI KWA KUWEKA FACTS ZA KITOTO.

MLIKUWA MNAPIMA SIYO??

HAPA NDIYO JF...YASHOGONGA CHUPI TAYARI NA INZ WASHAANZA KUWAFUATA NYUMA NYUMA SASA.

Teh teh teh.

Mlitaka Chai si ndiyo??ndiyo hii mnapewa sasa....msilalamike kuuungua.

Mohamed Said ndiye kiboko yenu.

Na bila shaka mnakiri mioyoni mwenu.
 

Teh teh teh

Padre matumbo nuksi sana.

Anakula utumbo akishiba anawaza utumbo kisha anakuja hapa jukwaaani kumwaga utumbo wake.

Teh teh teh.

Sasa anataka uzi ufungwe kwanin.

Ngoma bado mbichi hii.
 
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...Another vivid difference. -kumbe mpo wengi?
 

Show me one published historical paper with hypothetical Data and I will accept Professor Hirjis arguments blindly.

I asked him to do so too, he has vanished since.
 
Kuhusu Mau Mau au Maji Maji

Hataa Profesa anaweza kufanya kosa la kitoto.
Kwa haraka niliandika Mau Mau lakini maana yangu ilikuwa Maj Maji.
Na omba msamaha kwa wasomaji wangu kwa kosa hilo.
Kosa kadogo kama hilo haliwezi kupindua logic na ukweli wa makala mzima.
Ni wale ambao hawataki kufikiria mambo kwa kiundani ndiyo watanganganyia makosa madogo.
Kama utasoma scientific journals utaona section ya corrections; wanasayansi wengi wana
rekebisha makala yao na kutoa makosa yaliogunduliwa na wasomaji.

Halafu nataka kuwafahamisha kuwa hapo kwenye Jamii Forums kuna NUSU TU ya makala
yangu Beating the Drum... Sehemu ya mwisho Conclusions imekatwa. Sijui nani amefany kosa hilo.
Ni bora kusoma makala mzima kabla ya kuyajadili.



Prof. Karim Hirji
 

Gombe Sugu, kumbe upo ila umebadilisha/umefupisha jina lako! Et tu - Hata wewe kweli huoni hoja za msingi za Profu? Inshallah, urejee kesho tujadili aya kwa aya.
 
Wanaukumbi, Prof Hirji, analalamika nani kaileta hii pepar hapa.

Anawaomba msamaha wasomaji wote walioisoma hii pepar maghumashi ina makosa mengi ya kitoto.

Kumekucha tena JF.

Prof kaingia anga zingine anaikana pepar yake alidhani yupo kwenye warsha ya kigoda cha mwalimu Nyerere.
 

Because they usually do cherry picking and in that part that is cut you said something that these guys who 'support' you (here in JF) they don't like professor. You are being used here don't you get it cousin?
 
Hapana al hakir, usighafilikiwe ukapoteza maana.
Mohamed tupo naye, kila mmoja ana hiari ya kusoma na kuelewa.
Wengine tumesema, aa ! taaluma upande huu, ngano na hekaya upande ule., ehee! kisha twazungumza bila tafrani.

Al hakir, unatoka nje ya mstari sheikh, walianganieni watu kwa kauli thabiti, mujarabu na zenye ulinganifu.

Tuchunge ndimi zetu waungwana, hata Mohamed anajisikia mnyonge akinasibishwa na kauli zenye karha.

Wasalimie hapo Mikindani
 

Utafiti wa nini Mohamed Said ?
 
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Mohamed Said naomba uje hapa uthibitishie ukumbi kuwa katika mijadala mingi tuliyofanya hapa JF hujawahi kufanya kosa kama ilivyotokea kwa Hirji bila kubadilisha logic
 

There is no slander here what I am saying is true. You have jumped the wagon and you dont have calibre to differentiate between hypotesis and facts. Your data on Prof Said based on what, intel? Are you trying to threaten him or other people who defend him now? What can you reveal that you know about him that is genuine or not planted hypothesis. After being beaten out of the debate are you resorting to threats?
 
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