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Discussion in 'Habari na Hoja mchanganyiko' started by Tanganyika1, Jul 15, 2011.

  1. Tanganyika1

    Tanganyika1 JF-Expert Member

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    Trophy Points: 45 dont have free will,,,,,you have the appeallants of free will,,,,you have free will of which toothpaste you use or which beverage to order, or which lunch but humanity doesn't mature enough to control the important things...........the question is who control the important things?
  2. Roulette

    Roulette JF-Expert Member

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    The paradox of free will lies in the fact that Humanity decides for little thing but Human beings, each individualy decides for more that the entire humanity. the collective conscience decides that people should brush teeth. But you can decide not only on the toothpaste but even decide not to brush or to remove your teeth. you can decide to live with God or to move away from him and that, not even God can decide for you. He can only save the ones who decide to go to him. That is his decision.
    You have more power to decide than you think. The problem is the influence that people put behind the free will: you are free to go to Gd but if you don't you will live forever in hell. You can decide not to sin but if you do then you will die. you can decide to eat human beings but if you do you will be jailed (or killed) etc.
    The free will is there but there is alwasy someone, something (culture, laws) or God (religion, conscience) to prevent you from exercising it freely (most of the time for your own benefit)
  3. J

    JUNGU MTU Member

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    Not every one with lot a cup of tea.
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    AshaDii Platinum Member

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    Tanganyika i believe the blue bolded is your area of interest... And for your to be able
    to know that... is knowing first what you define important... Is it at an individual level? OR
    Is it at a society/community level....

    I love the way Russian Roulette has explained... a really brief but good insight.... but it entirely is
    more applicable at an individual level... more like knowing thy self and what is good for you....
    Back to the community level... it may seem like an individual can not control things... That
    those who are in control are the minority powerful... But with determination, focus and knowing
    want you want and what is the best for the majority... the you also can control... it is not easy
    But it is possible... for instance Madiba (Nelson Mandela....)
  5. simplemind

    simplemind JF-Expert Member

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    The free will is there but there is alwasy someone, something (culture, laws) or God (religion, conscience) to prevent you from exercising it freely (most of the time for your own benefit)Yet man still proclaims "Every is man is born free and endowed with creator certain inalienable rights among this.............", the truth is we are in chains everywhere .This i know.