Mambo Jambo
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Afghan election commission declares Hamad Karzai as elected pres.
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Abdullah Abdullah was withdrawn from the run off election... sasa siingekuwa ujinga to hold an election?More news! No re-election?
Abdullah Abdullah was withdrawn from the run off election... sasa siingekuwa ujinga to hold an election?
Ila legitimacy hapa inatia shaka sana....
Invaders get out afghanistan mashetani wakubwa (US and its allies)..ondekeni acheni watu na maisha yao na dini yao lol..karzai ni CIA agent hana jipya
Abdullah Abdullah was withdrawn from the run off election... sasa siingekuwa ujinga to hold an election?
Ila legitimacy hapa inatia shaka sana....
Wewe unajua kiini chake?...invaders must leave and justice must prevail..wapuuzi tu hawa americans kuvamia ma-nchi ya watu..nakuweka agents wao..for resources and religion reasons mashetani wakubwa ..lol ..wewe Usiingilie mambo Haya ujui kiini chake kwani Karzai leo kaifikisha hapa Afgan walikuwa hawakohoi sasa inataka kufanya kama ya Zimbabwe. Karzai unda Serikali makini usiogope. Mtu mzima atishiwi nyau....
Wewe unajua kiini chake?...invaders must leave and justice must prevail..wapuuzi tu hawa americans kuvamia ma-nchi ya watu..nakuweka agents wao..for resources and religion reasons mashetani wakubwa ..lol ..
Ndugu usilifurahishe baraza...?Religious aside:
Unajua Tumaini we saa zingine huwa una angalia dini kuliko kupima haya mambo yenyewe. Taliban wasi-tumie dini kukupora akili, kama wanavyo wapora akili vijana wengi toka familia maskini kufanya upuuzi wao na kuwalipua hawa watoto.
There are differences between the Taliban, Al-Qaeda and many other Muslim organisation majuzi tu Hamas walikua wanalipuana mabomu na Al-Qaeda iliyokua inaanza kujitokeza huko Palestine. Lazima uelewe kila mtu anasimamia nini. Ni waisalamu hawa wote na wote wana agenda zao.
Kukuelezea vyote ni tabu hila ntajaribu kukuelezea why Taliban are not good.
1. Kwanza Taliban concern is Afghanistan only
2. Hawa jamaa wanasera ambazo zina abuse human rights to the extreme.
3. Yaani hawa sera zao hazina tofauti na dicteta yeyote duniani
4. Hawana support Afgani nzima hila ubabe ndio walitumia kutawala
5. Afganistan ni nchi ambayo imegawanyika ajabu ajabu na US invasion ilikosea strategy kwani Taliban ilikuwa na maadui kila kona na walikua wanapigana illa jama walikua hawana support na umoja wa kusaidiana kwani ni kama vita ya kikabila.
6. Jamaa wanataka watu waishi ki lazima kwa namna fulani upende usipende mpaka leo bado wanalipua shule za wanawake,
7. We kweli kama uta tetea upuuzi kwa kweli utakua unamatatizo kichwani
Nakubari ya kwamba US wamefanya makosa, lakini kosa ilikua ni jinsi ya kuitoa Taliban. Kama unajua ukweli wenyewe Taliban walitolewa na kabila moja tuu Kabul, kwa msaada wa CIA agents. Tatizo ni America kuingilia kati na kutuma hawa askari ambao hawa elewi wala hawa respect other religious. An average soldier is just an ignorant man in a society.
Ni mengi ya kueleza ili uelewe hila embu jaribu kuelewa viini vya mambo sometimes. Karzai alishinda uchaguzi hila anatakiwa awe na more than 50% of the votes. Hivyo kwa mujibu wa UN si mshindi. Lakini election Afghanistan unakuja na vitu vingine expences for the security forces kwa sababu the're presence is vital, vitisho kwa wananchi, mabomu mitaani, lost of lives na sababu zingine nyingi ndio maana jama akaona kulikoni.
Na mtu ambaye anasema mwanamke hana haki ya kupata elimu.
Mwanamke ni mtumwa tu wa kukaa nyumbani, naa kuwapangia watu waishi vipi kwa kutumia jina la Uislamu si muislamu.
Ndugu usilifurahishe baraza...?
1. Kwa mawazo yako Wamerakani (invaders) walienda afghanistan kwasababu wanamuonea huruma sana mwanamke wa kiafghanistani that is totally blind line of thinking...lo. agenda yao ni kueneza dini Ukristo na kuchukua resources..so many documentaries and evidences has been revealed..hakuna haja ya kupteza muda kueleza kila...let call the spade the spade..
2. wangekuwa na huruma hata tone wangeanza na saudia ambayo wanawake treatment zake na afghanistan is almost the same...
3. Je wanawake wamekuwa better off baada ya mabomu na kuua watoto, kuharibu makazi na kuweka wauza unga (karzai) kama viongozi kwenye jamii iliyokua na mfumo wake wa kikabila..lol..millions of childrens and innocent people were killed kwasababu ya uvamizi wa kishetani pumbavu zao...ili kueneza dini kwa nguvu na kuchukua resources this is big shame..
4. Karzai ni CIA agents hata ingekuwaje the results of the election is well known and predictable kwa hiyo wasidanganye ulimwengu kwamba kuna kitu kinaendelea hapo..lol
5. Afghanistan leadership system ni mtindo jirga ambao makakbila yanaamua serikali kuu wamerakani wameleta a very stupid thing (call it demecracy) kwenye jamii yenye system zake kwa agenda zao mabazo wewe hutaki kuzisikia japo ni Ukweli..yaani UDINI na Resorces finito..aibu zao na ushetani wao una mwisho...
I cant believe UN is allowing this to happen under its name!! how can you skip an election and declare someone a president??..on what basis? security? money? time?..You cant skip an election ..even if there is a 1,000,000,000% chance that the guy will be elected by majority to be a president. You cant declare someone a president of a country on mere assumptions that the guy will achieve enough numbers of votes to be a president!..They could have let the election process legitimized it and not otherwise!
Im feeling very sorry to Obama too by allowing this to happen!..they could have conducted an election to legitimize the guy and not skipping it!
I'm just wondering if UN could do the same thing in Zimbabwe? and declare Mugabe the presidaa!!
Iam totally confused on how UN define democracy!..Is this what they mean?
Now i see UN is becoming a department of USA and other western countries...
OK jamiiforums ....What is democracy? can one define it for me?
Wembe.
Juma,
i. Taliban walikuwa na pigana na Wa russia kwasababu walikuwa wamefanya invasion kama walivyofanya wamerakani ...sasa..
ii. Abuse of human huo ni upuuzi unaofanywa zaidi na merakani kuliko nchi yeyote duniani....Quantanamo, palestinaes case. and other cases are vivid examples kwa hiyo hawako Afaghanistan kwasababu ya kwamba wanawaonea hurma wafghan..NO NO big NO..wako pale kwa faid zao ambazo if you like to call the spade a spade ni DINI na MALI..finito..
iii. Invasion ni kwasababu ya OSama..damn..hapo ndio unakofurahisha baraza..ndugu..Osama ni ideology ambayo haipo kabisa..hakuna serikali imeshindwa kumkatamata osama..lol..Osama mwenyewe ni agent wa CIA kuendeleza agenda zao..unaweza kusema wameshindwa kumkamata osama pakistani..siku zote lol NO NO big NO
iv. Afghan imekuwa heaven ..lol. hawa materorrist wameanza kuwe wengi baada ya uvamizi before that hakukuwa na watu wa aina hiyo..hizo propaganda za wenye kula damu ya watu kwa mabomu does not change peoples resistance to injustice..never.
v. kwanini mtives za wachace ziumize wengi..yes that is the point kwanini motives za watu wachache wenye uroho wa mali na kueneza dini zao kwa nguvu..usababishe mauaji ya watoto, wanawake, na kuharibu makzi ya watu...kwanini? this the big shame for americans and people who support them...lol
i. Unachanganya madawa...somalia is another issue tunaweza kuweka thread yake kabisaa..kwahiyo siwezi kuongelea hiyo..kwa sasaOK mkuu I see you have made up ur mind already. Lakini ebu jaribu kuangalia haya Hawa Taliban wanavyo piga mabomu kuzuia watu wasiende piga kura utapata kweli hiyo democracy.
All in all the country is unstable with many ideologies floating above it. My arguments is people should be allowed to express themselves freely without fear of the Taliban regime.
Russia left taliban long ago and the Taliban still fought with other tribal groups not because of power but the ideology they impose upon people. I suggest you find a book that elobarates what they stand for and believe me democracy is not in their agenda. My view in life is dont take away individuals autonomy by force.
Kwa-heri
Ps sijui kama umepata habari ya kwamba somalia jana kulikua na mini mashambulizi kati ya Islamists na Pirates. Islamists wanawataka hao wa british for different motives. Probably kuwanyonga tu sasa hawa nao wamewakosea nini.