Abolish the Electoral College

Donald Trump has won the presidency after narrowly carrying a few states to put him above 270 electoral votes.

But according to the latest numbers, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. The game is rigged.

In other words, we have a similar situation as in 2000—where the candidate who more voters picked did not become president. It is unfair, undemocratic & we must eliminate the Electoral College.

Eliminating the Electoral College does not even require a constitutional amendment. An effort known as The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact is an agreement among several U.S. states and the District of Columbia to award all their respective electoral votes to whichever presidential candidate wins the overall popular vote. Once states totaling 270 electoral votes join the compact--which only requires passing state laws-- then the next presidential election will be determined the the popular vote, not the Electoral College.

As of November 9, 2016, ten states and the District of Columbia have signed the compact, totaling 165 electoral votes. So, we are already over 60% of the way there. If we can make this a national issue now, and if Democrats can do well at the state level in the 2018 midterm elections (which could happen under President Trump), then the winner of 2020 presidential election will be determined by popular vote.

Sign if you agree: Abolish the Electoral College and determine the winner of presidential elections by popular vote.

Please join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, and abolish the electoral college.

Source: Daily Kos

Watajua wao..

CNN)Documentary filmmaker Michael Moore said Thursday that Donald Trump's presidency must be opposed.
"The other side needs to be ready to roll right now to do whatever it takes to stop his appointment to the Supreme Court," Moore told Don Lemon on "CNN Tonight."




In response to Trump's victory, tens of thousands of Americans protested in at least 25 US cities to mourn the election results. Moore joined protesters in New York who were demonstrating outside the Trump Tower.
"Literally thousands of people coming down the street and I just joined them," Moore said. "There's a lot of fear and a lot of panic amongst a lot of people right now."
Lemon reminded Moore of his past remarks predicting Trump's potential success in rust belt states like Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

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"Well, I live in Michigan. And so I know why she's going there tomorrow," Moore told Lemon a week before the election.
"She wasn't supposed to have needed to go there, and -- but I think this has always been a lot closer than I think, a lot -- I think the Trump vote has always been under counted in these polls."
Moore said he took no pleasure on accurately predicting Hillary Clinton's challenges with states like his home state of Michigan.
"I've been trying to warn people since the summer, because too many of my fellow Hillary votes were doing the end zone dance on the 50-yard line," Moore said.
"I would go to parties and people -- there was one guy who kicked me out of his house because I said this guy -- he had a Donald Trump, you known, Christmas ornament and was making fun of Donald Trump. He said there's no way, Hillary is going to trounce him. I said, you should never underestimate your opponent, that's your first mistake."

Michael Moore: Trump's presidency has to be opposed - CNNPolitics.com

Ushindi wa Trump unauweka dunia kuwa sehem ya uharisia zaidi kuliko nadharia

Uharisia ndiyo nini Mkuu?

mtembea kwa miguu said:

Ushindi wa Trump unauweka dunia kuwa sehem ya uharisia zaidi kuliko nadharia

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hawa jamaa hawana uchaguzi wa huru sema wanatumia sana akili kupanga matokeo!

Wakiendelea na utaratibu huu ipo siku Taifa hili litakuja sambaratika.

wajiulize sababu za kuwa na electoral college kwanza, na kama sababu hizo ni irrelevant kwa sasa?

USA ni nchi ya mashetani ya rangi tofautitofauti.
The Democratics ni mababa wa ushoga, utoaji mimba na dhambi za kila aina.
The Republican ni mashetani wengine tena

Electoral College ya US, mfumo uliodumu kwa zaidi ya miaka 200 ni copy-paste ya CONCLAVE ya Vatican mfumo wa kumchagua Pope na ambao umedumu kwa zaidi ya miaka 1000; mfumo kongwe kabisa wa kiuchaguzi duniani. Wale ma-Kadinali wasiofikia 300 "wakijificha" chumbani kwa siku kadhaa huwachagulia wakatoliki zaidi 1.2 bilion kiongozi. Vivyo hivyo wale Electors 538 ndio huamua US President awe nani.

Well, kama wameona mfumo huo hautendi haki ni suala la kujenga hoja ili ubadilishwe ila wasitegemee utabadilishwa ili kum-favor wanayemtaka wao. Aliyechaguliwa amechaguliwa hayo mabadiliko kama yatafanyika ni kwa chaguzi zijazo. Nachojua, Trump anaendelea kuunda Serikali yake kwa kasi ya ajabu.

Hawa Washington Politicians/ Democrats hawajakubali tu kuwa wamepigwa?

genekai said:

Hawa Washington Politicians/ Democrats hawajakubali tu kuwa wamepigwa?

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Tena wamepigwa kisayansi hasa; kwa uwazi na kwa mujibu wa Katiba yao pasi na kificho au matokeo ya kupika.

Donald J. TrumpVerified account ‏@realDonaldTrump 6 Nov 2012

The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 10h10 hours ago

The Electoral College is actually genius in that it brings all states, including the smaller ones, into play. Campaigning is much different!

Maandamano ya USA si ndio yale walikuwa wanaitisha UKAWA [emoji28][emoji28]

Wamarekani na wazungu wengi wa siku hizi huwa hawana akili. Wanadhani kwamba Trump hapendwi, wakitaka kujua waaminicho sicho, basi waanhalie tofauti ya popular votes za President elect Trump Vs zile alizopata Hillary Clinton.
Kingine, wanapaswa kutambua kuwa hata kama popular votes ndiyo zingekuwa zinaamua mshindi, basi Trump and the team wangekuja na approach na lugha ya Ku win hizo kura. Maoni na ushabiki unaoendelea hivi Sasa na kukuzwa isivyopaswa ni matokeo ya wengi wanaojifanya wafuatiliaji na wachambuzi kuwa uelewa finyu wa mambo haya.

dudus said:

Electoral College ya US, mfumo uliodumu kwa zaidi ya miaka 200 ni copy-paste ya CONCLAVE ya Vatican mfumo wa kumchagua Pope na ambao umedumu kwa zaidi ya miaka 1000; mfumo kongwe kabisa wa kiuchaguzi duniani. Wale ma-Kadinali wasiofikia 300 "wakijificha" chumbani kwa siku kadhaa huwachagulia wakatoliki zaidi 1.2 bilion kiongozi. Vivyo hivyo wale Electors 538 ndio huamua US President awe nani.

Well, kama wameona mfumo huo hautendi haki ni suala la kujenga hoja ili ubadilishwe ila wasitegemee utabadilishwa ili kum-favor wanayemtaka wao. Aliyechaguliwa amechaguliwa hayo mabadiliko kama yatafanyika ni kwa chaguzi zijazo. Nachojua, Trump anaendelea kuunda Serikali yake kwa kasi ya ajabu.

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Unaringanisha vitu visivyo fanana, maana vatican inapigwa kura moja tu ya macadinal kumchagua papa.
U.s.a zinapigwa mbili popular vote na electoral college votes.
Kwa hiyo ni vitu viwilo tofauti.
Na macadinal ni lazima ndiyo wapige kura maana ndiyo wanafahamiana zaidi ni ngumu mkatoliki wa Tanzania amjue cadinal wa Botswana, so wakisema wakatoliki wote wapige watampgia cadinal wa nchi yao ndiye wanayemjua.

The Son of Man said:

Hawa Washington Politicians/ Democrats hawajakubali tu kuwa wamepigwa?

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Jambo la kushangaza mfumo wameutumia miaka yote leo tu ndiyo eti umeonekana mbovu kisa trump kashinda.
Kama waliona mbovu toka mwanzo wangeubadili kabla ya uchaguzi ila kwakuwa walidhani mwana mama atashinda wakaona safi tu mambo yameenda ndivyo sivyo wanaanza leta zogo

elmagnifico said:

Unaringanisha vitu visivyo fanana, maana vatican inapigwa kura moja tu ya macadinal kumchagua papa.
U.s.a zinapigwa mbili popular vote na electoral college votes.

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Lakini kura ya kwanza si ndio inayopelekea kura ya pili? Kwa uelewa wangu ni kuwa Electocollege vote ni uidhinishaji wa popular votes za States ambazo mgombea ameshinda, Maana yake ni kwamba ukishinda State popular votes basi Electocollege votes ndio zinabeba nguvu.

BAK said:

Donald J. TrumpVerified account ‏@realDonaldTrump 6 Nov 2012

The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.

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BAK said:

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 10h10 hours ago

The Electoral College is actually genius in that it brings all states, including the smaller ones, into play. Campaigning is much different!

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Aisee, hii flip flop ni 180° au 360°..?

Sipati picha the Donald angeshindwa uchaguzi. Naona ange flew in watu kutoka states nyingine kwenda DC kuandamana white house kwa kigezo cha the system is rigged.