2016 US Elections - Exlusive discussion thread

[kui]

A DC outsider feeling his cabinet with DC insiders.

Team Trump is already filled with Washington insiders - CNNPolitics.com

 

[Richard]

Donald Trump, will be a lot worse for the economy than Obama, because Donald Trump is not a politician and he is a hardcore believer in neoliberalism.

Many economically oppressed blacks voted for Donald Trump, because those economically oppressed black people think that their economic problems are caused by the 11 million undocumented immigrants.

Instead of capitalism, and the concentration of money in about 20% of the population, money in the USA is kidnapped, hijacked by the top 20% to 30% of the population, while 80% is doing pretty badly.

 

[BAK]

Kwenye transition team kawaweka wanawe wawili ikiwemo Ivanka na his son-in-law ambaye inasemekana aliplay a bigger role in DT's campaign. Halafu katika mahojiano na Wall Street amedai baadhi ya vipengele kwenye Obamacare anaweza akaendelea navyo kwenye his new administration.

A DC outsider feeling his cabinet with DC insiders.

Team Trump is already filled with Washington insiders - CNNPolitics.com

 

[kui]

Kwenye transition period kawaweka wanawe wawili ikiwemo Ivanka na his son-in-law ambaye inasemekana aliplay a bigger role in DT's campaign. Halafu katika mahojiano na Wall Street amedai baadhi ya vipengele kwenye Obamacare anaweza akaendelea navyo kwenye his new administration.

Afadhali hata wanae.
So he's not completely repealing Obamacare? Wafuasi wake wasiboreke tu, cos that's what he promised them.
Halafu hata Hillary ndo alitaka kufanya kama hivi, to just make some changes.

 

[BAK]

Nadhani huyu katika mambo ambayo anadhani watoto wake na mkwewe wanaweza kuwa washauri wazuri hasa kwenye mambo ya uchumi (hasa Ivanka na mumewe) anaweza sana kuwasikiliza wanawe kuliko mtu yeyote yule.

 

[BAK]

Yes Kui. as per his interview with Wall Street journal. Nikitulia nitaitafuta hiyo interview niiweke hapa. Mimi nakubaliana nawe kuhusu wanawe hasa Ivanka huyu anaweza kumshawishi DT aje na sera kwa mfano kuhusu likizo za waliojifungua ambazo GOP wamezipiga vita kwa miaka mingi. Hawa watoto wake walivyokuwa smart tayari wanaangalia 2020 hivyo wanaweza kuja na sera za kumuongezea popularity baba yao na labda kumuwezesha kushinda tena 2020.

Afadhali hata wanae.
So he's not completely repealing Obamacare? Wafuasi wake wasiboreke tu, cos that's what he promised them.
Halafu hata Hillary ndo alitaka kufanya kama hivi, to just make some changes.

 

[kui]

Nadhani huyu katika mambo ambayo anadhani watoto wake na mkwewe wanaweza kuwa washauri wazuri hasa kwenye mambo ya uchumi (hasa Ivanka na mumewe) anaweza sana kuwasikiliza wanawe kuliko mtu yeyote yule.

So anaweza kuwaweka kama washauri right?, lakini sidhani kama anaweza kuwa appoint in his cabinet, it will be against anti nepotism.

 

[BAK]

Sidhani kama taratibu zinamruhusu kuwaweka kama washauri wake lakini nina hakika atawasikiliza sana na maamuzi atakayoyafanya kama Rais hawajibiki kwa yeyote kumjibu maamuzi yake yametokana na ushauri wa nani.

So anaweza kuwaweka kama washauri right?, lakini sidhani kama anaweza kuwa appoint in his cabinet, it will be against anti nepotism.

 

[kui]

Yes Kui. as per his interview with Wall Street journal. Nikitulia nitaitafuta hiyo interview niiweke hapa. Mimi nakubaliana nawe kuhusu wanawe hasa Ivanka huyu anaweza kumshawishi DT aje na sera kwa mfano kuhusu likizo za waliojifungua ambazo GOP wamezipiga vita kwa miaka mingi. Hawa watoto wake walivyokuwa smart tayari wanaangalia 2020 hivyo wanaweza kuja na sera za kumuongezea popularity baba yao na labda kumuwezesha kushinda tena 2020.

Right on point!, watakuwa mstari wa mbele to work hard and make sure their Dad get respect after that brutal campaign, and as you said, for 2020.
Halafu hiyo ya maternity leave asee, Ivanka akiivalia njuga itamfikisha mbali. The pain from that is felt on both sides, men and women who're aspiring parents.

 

[kui]

Sidhani kama taratibu zinamruhusu kuwaweka kama washauri wake lakini nina hakika atawasikiliza sana na maamuzi atakayoyafanya kama Rais hawajibiki kwa yeyote kumjibu maamuzi yake yametokana na ushauri wa nani.

Yeah, behind closed doors you can bet they'll be part of his advisory team.

 

[BAK]

Very true watch for this lady Ivanka. IMO she and her husband will play a bigger role than normal in DT's administration directly or indirectly.

Hilo nadhani atalivalia njuga mapema sana sidhani kama itafika June 2017 kabla hawajatoa tamko, labda kama kuna upingwaji wa hili mkubwa ndani ya GOP.

Right on point!, watakuwa mstari wa mbele to work hard and make sure their Dad get respect after that brutal campaign, and as you said, for 2020.
Halafu hiyo ya maternity leave asee, Ivanka akiivalia njuga itamfikisha mbali. The pain from that is felt on both sides, men and women who're aspiring parents.

 

[kui]

Very true watch for this lady Ivanka. IMO she and her husband will play a bigger role than normal in DT's administration directly or indirectly.

Hilo nadhani atalivalia njuga mapema sana sidhani kama itafika June 2017 kabla hawajatoa tamko, labda kama kuna upingwaji wa hili mkubwa ndani ya GOP.

True.
At this point naona GOP will sacrifice a lot to impress women, after their big bosse's comments on them. Usikute bado hawaamini they're going back to 1600 Penn ave. after long 8 years. 😀

 

[BAK]

Hawakutegemea kabisa na hata mpambe wake mmoja alitamka kwamba hatuwezi kushinda labda itokee miracle. Election miracle in 2016 US election. Wanaweza kumuachia afanye maamuzi mengi hata yale ambayo miaka nenda miaka rudi walikuwa wakiyapinga.

True.
At this point naona GOP will sacrifice a lot to impress women, after their big bosse's comments on them. Usikute bado hawaamini they're going back to 1600 Penn ave. after long 8 years. 😀

 

[BAK]

Washington (CNN)Vice President-elect Mike Pence assumed control of President-elect Donald Trump's transition efforts Friday as part of a shakeup that reduced New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's role.

Christie, who began leading the presidential transition in the months before Trump's surprise victory, will now serve as a vice-chairman to the transition effort alongside Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, retired Army Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Dr. Ben Carson and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, all of whom have been close confidantes of the billionaire during his presidential campaign.

"I am proud to have run the pre-election phase of the transition team along with a thoroughly professional and dedicated team of people," Christie said in a statement.
Trump said in a statement that Pence "will build on the initial work" Christie accomplished "to help prepare a transformative government ready to lead from day one.
"The mission of our team will be clear: put together the most highly qualified group of successful leaders who will be able to implement our change agenda in Washington. Together, we will begin the urgent task of rebuilding this nation -- specifically jobs, security and opportunity," Trump said.


The New York Times first reported the shakeup.
Trump also announced a 16-member executive committee advising the transition efforts composed of Trump's children, some of his top political supporters and some of the top advisers to his campaign, including Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus and campaign CEO Steve Bannon, who are both leading contenders to be named White House chief of staff.
Trump also formalized the staffing of his transition team, including naming Sessions' chief of staff, Rick Dearborn, as executive director.

Dearborn, a longtime Sessions aide, had been working on the transition for some time as a chief legislative affairs and policy official and was the organizer of Trump's campaign policy shop in Washington before that.
Trump's senior campaign staff will also transition to roles with the presidential transition organization, largely retaining the same roles they had with the campaign. Campaign manager Kellyanne Conway will serve as senior adviser.
Sources also told CNN top Pence staffers Marc Short and Nick Ayers will be heavily involved.

Bridgegate scandal hurt Christie's standing
Pence, the governor of Indiana and a former member of Congress, is not the first vice president to lead transition efforts. Former Vice President Dick Cheney played a leading role in the transition leading up to George W. Bush's presidency.
A Christie aide cited Cheney's role in explaining the staff shakeup.
"This is what Bush did post election with Cheney. I saw tweets on demotion. That's the absolutely wrong take," the aide said.
Pence was tapped for the post in part because of his deep and longstanding relationships with both Republicans on Capitol Hill and Republican governors. The role will complement Pence's efforts during the campaign in urging Republicans to rally around Trump's candidacy.

The decision to backbench Christie comes as the New Jersey governor faces intensifying scrutiny over his role in lane closures of the George Washington Bridge after two of his former aides were convicted in the scandal. Christie has denied any wrongdoing, but federal authorities continue to probe his role in the incident.

Several sources familiar with the process said the Bridgegate scandal and questions over Christie's loyalty to Trump were factors in the decision. While Christie was one of Trump's earliest prominent backers, he disappeared from the public eye after the surfacing of the 2005 "Access Hollywood" tape in which Trump bragged about groping women.
Christie has also had a tenuous relationship with Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, who has been intimately involved in transition efforts, stemming from Christie's prosecution of Kushner's father.

'It's kind of chaos'
Sessions had taken on much of the leadership of the planning effort, the sources said, despite Christie retaining the chairman title. While Christie had made frequent visits to D.C. early in the transition process, he was not seen in the office for weeks leading up to the election.

While the nearly 100 staffers working on the transition had been toiling for weeks to prepare for a potential Trump administration, even those in the transition had not expected it to come to fruition. A source close to the transition said the staffers were networking last week, looking to line up post-election jobs as they prepared for a loss.

That left the transition in a state of shock when Trump was elected. Though they had done the work to prepare a Trump administration, the mogul himself had not been actively involved and staff weren't immediately able to put plans into action.
"I think it's kind of chaos. I don't think anyone was ready for what happened," the source said. "They have a plan in place, it's just a question of whether Trump's OK with it."
The reshuffling of the transition and addition of many of the campaign's heavy hitters -- who had been detached from the transition as they worked toward the election -- comes the first day that Trump has held a meeting with his transition team.

With Trump's engagement, the transition is expected to now be able to get going in earnest on planning his agenda, developing policy and vetting and naming Cabinet officials.
The transition team compiled possible names for Cabinet positions in advance, but has added vetting staff in recent days to be able to begin the process of clearing those names ahead of what will likely be tense Senate confirmation hearings in the new administration, according to a source familiar with the process.

CNN's Dana Bash, Gloria Borger and Pamela Brown contributed to this report.

 

[kui]

Hawakutegemea kabisa na hata mpambe wake mmoja alitamka kwamba hatuwezi kushinda labda itokee miracle. Election miracle in 2016 US election. Wanaweza kumuachia afanye maamuzi mengi hata yale ambayo miaka nenda miaka rudi walikuwa wakiyapinga.

Washington (CNN)Vice President-elect Mike Pence assumed control of President-elect Donald Trump's transition efforts Friday as part of a shakeup that reduced New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's role.

Christie, who began leading the presidential transition in the months before Trump's surprise victory, will now serve as a vice-chairman to the transition effort alongside Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, retired Army Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Dr. Ben Carson and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, all of whom have been close confidantes of the billionaire during his presidential campaign.

"I am proud to have run the pre-election phase of the transition team along with a thoroughly professional and dedicated team of people," Christie said in a statement.
Trump said in a statement that Pence "will build on the initial work" Christie accomplished "to help prepare a transformative government ready to lead from day one.
"The mission of our team will be clear: put together the most highly qualified group of successful leaders who will be able to implement our change agenda in Washington. Together, we will begin the urgent task of rebuilding this nation -- specifically jobs, security and opportunity," Trump said.


The New York Times first reported the shakeup.
Trump also announced a 16-member executive committee advising the transition efforts composed of Trump's children, some of his top political supporters and some of the top advisers to his campaign, including Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus and campaign CEO Steve Bannon, who are both leading contenders to be named White House chief of staff.
Trump also formalized the staffing of his transition team, including naming Sessions' chief of staff, Rick Dearborn, as executive director.

Dearborn, a longtime Sessions aide, had been working on the transition for some time as a chief legislative affairs and policy official and was the organizer of Trump's campaign policy shop in Washington before that.
Trump's senior campaign staff will also transition to roles with the presidential transition organization, largely retaining the same roles they had with the campaign. Campaign manager Kellyanne Conway will serve as senior adviser.
Sources also told CNN top Pence staffers Marc Short and Nick Ayers will be heavily involved.

Bridgegate scandal hurt Christie's standing
Pence, the governor of Indiana and a former member of Congress, is not the first vice president to lead transition efforts. Former Vice President Dick Cheney played a leading role in the transition leading up to George W. Bush's presidency.
A Christie aide cited Cheney's role in explaining the staff shakeup.
"This is what Bush did post election with Cheney. I saw tweets on demotion. That's the absolutely wrong take," the aide said.
Pence was tapped for the post in part because of his deep and longstanding relationships with both Republicans on Capitol Hill and Republican governors. The role will complement Pence's efforts during the campaign in urging Republicans to rally around Trump's candidacy.

The decision to backbench Christie comes as the New Jersey governor faces intensifying scrutiny over his role in lane closures of the George Washington Bridge after two of his former aides were convicted in the scandal. Christie has denied any wrongdoing, but federal authorities continue to probe his role in the incident.

Several sources familiar with the process said the Bridgegate scandal and questions over Christie's loyalty to Trump were factors in the decision. While Christie was one of Trump's earliest prominent backers, he disappeared from the public eye after the surfacing of the 2005 "Access Hollywood" tape in which Trump bragged about groping women.
Christie has also had a tenuous relationship with Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, who has been intimately involved in transition efforts, stemming from Christie's prosecution of Kushner's father.

'It's kind of chaos'
Sessions had taken on much of the leadership of the planning effort, the sources said, despite Christie retaining the chairman title. While Christie had made frequent visits to D.C. early in the transition process, he was not seen in the office for weeks leading up to the election.

While the nearly 100 staffers working on the transition had been toiling for weeks to prepare for a potential Trump administration, even those in the transition had not expected it to come to fruition. A source close to the transition said the staffers were networking last week, looking to line up post-election jobs as they prepared for a loss.

That left the transition in a state of shock when Trump was elected. Though they had done the work to prepare a Trump administration, the mogul himself had not been actively involved and staff weren't immediately able to put plans into action.
"I think it's kind of chaos. I don't think anyone was ready for what happened," the source said. "They have a plan in place, it's just a question of whether Trump's OK with it."
The reshuffling of the transition and addition of many of the campaign's heavy hitters -- who had been detached from the transition as they worked toward the election -- comes the first day that Trump has held a meeting with his transition team.

With Trump's engagement, the transition is expected to now be able to get going in earnest on planning his agenda, developing policy and vetting and naming Cabinet officials.
The transition team compiled possible names for Cabinet positions in advance, but has added vetting staff in recent days to be able to begin the process of clearing those names ahead of what will likely be tense Senate confirmation hearings in the new administration, according to a source familiar with the process.

CNN's Dana Bash, Gloria Borger and Pamela Brown contributed to this report.

Wow. Interesting. They didn't expect it.

Kumbe hiyo ndo tie iliyopo between Trump's son in law and Christie.

 

[BAK]

Voter turnout at 20-year low in 2016 - CNNPolitics.com

 

[BAK]

Naona wengi walikuwa hawaijui hii na si ajabu ikamuathiri Christie asipate nafasi ya juu. Sasa bridge gate itatumiwa kumtosa huyu ili asiwe na nafasi ya juu. Ngoja tuone.

Wow. Interesting. They didn't expect it.

Kumbe hiyo ndo tie iliyopo between Trump's son in law and Christy.

 

[kui]

Naona wengi walikuwa hawaijui hii na si ajabu ikamuathiri Christie asipate nafasi ya juu. Sasa bridge gate itatumiwa kumtosa huyu ili asiwe na nafasi ya juu. Ngoja tuone.

Yeah, yawezekana. Na hiyo ya bridge gate ni another baggage of him. Sijui kama watataka kuharibu because of him. Lazima wako extra careful as they're looking into occupying the white house and the other two, for 8 yrs. If possible.

 

[BAK]

Ni kweli na kuingia madarakani na hii kashfa ya bridge gate watajaribu kuepuka kwa kila hali. Ila katika watu wa kwanza ndani ya GOP kumuunga mkono DT ni huyu Christie lakini hiyo bridge gate itamuharibia ulaji.

Yeah, yawezekana. Na hiyo ya bridge gate ni another baggage of him. Sijui kama watataka kuharibu because of him. Lazima wako extra careful as they're looking into occupying the white house and the two, for 8 yrs. If possible.

 

[BAK]

Donald Trump, in Exclusive Interview, Tells WSJ He Is Willing to Keep Parts of Obama Health Law
President-elect hints at possible compromise after vows to repeal the Affordable Care Act

By
Monica Langley

Updated Nov. 11, 2016 5:53 p.m. ET

NEW YORK—President-elect Donald Trump said he would consider leaving in place certain parts of the Affordable Care Act, an indication of possible compromise after a campaign in which he pledged repeatedly to repeal the 2010 health-care law.

In his first interview since his election earlier this week, Mr. Trump said one priority was moving “quickly” on President Barack Obama’s signature health initiative, which Mr. Trump said has become so unworkable and expensive that “you can’t use it.”

Yet, Mr. Trump also showed a willingness to preserve at least two provisions of the law after Mr. Obama asked him to reconsider repealing it during their meeting at the White House on Thursday.

Mr. Trump said he favors keeping the prohibition against insurers denying coverage because of patients’ existing conditions, and a provision that allows parents to provide years of additional coverage for children on their insurance policies.

“I like those very much,” Mr. Trump said.

Other urgent priorities during his first few weeks as president, Mr. Trump said, would be deregulating financial institutions to allow “banks to lend again,” and securing the border against drugs and illegal immigrants.

He said he would create jobs through nationwide infrastructure projects and improved international trade deals. He also said he would preserve American jobs by potentially imposing tariffs on products of U.S. companies that relocate overseas, thereby reducing the incentive to move plants abroad.

After a bitter campaign in which he came under criticism for his harsh and angry rhetoric, and a postelection period marked by anti-Trump protests in numerous cities, Mr. Trump said he is placing a high priority on bringing the country together.

“I want a country that loves each other,” Mr. Trump said. “I want to stress that.” He said the best way to ease tension would be to “bring in jobs.”

Asked whether he thought his rhetoric had gone too far in the campaign, Mr. Trump responded: “No. I won.”

Mr. Trump suggested he would now turn more positive, saying that was true of his victory speech early Wednesday morning, as well as his comments with Mr. Obama at the White House on Thursday. “It’s different now,” he said.

He deflected a question on whether he would follow up on a campaign vow to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate his election opponent, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, over her use of a private email server while she was secretary of state: “It’s not something I’ve given a lot of thought, because I want to solve health care, jobs, border control, tax reform.”

On health care, Mr. Trump said a big reason for his shift from his call for an all-out repeal was the meeting at the White House with Mr. Obama, who, he said, suggested areas of the Affordable Care Act, widely known as Obamacare, to preserve. “I told him I will look at his suggestions, and out of respect, I will do that,” Mr. Trump said in his Trump Tower office.

“Either Obamacare will be amended, or repealed and replaced,” Mr. Trump said.

The White House wouldn’t comment on Mr. Obama’s discussion with Mr. Trump on health care.

Mr. Trump declined to identify a single top priority upon taking office, saying: “I have a lot of first priorities.”

He did say, though, that he would rely heavily on his vice president-elect, Mike Pence, who had a decade of experience in Congress before becoming Indiana’s governor. “Mike will have a big role. He’s very capable,” Mr. Trump said.

He said he wanted Mr. Pence to handle “different areas of policy” and “be very much involved in health care.” He also said Mr. Pence would serve as his “liaison” with Congress, adding that Mr. Pence and House Speaker Paul Ryan of Wisconsin are friends.

On foreign affairs, Mr. Trump said he has spoken with or heard from most leaders except Chinese President Xi Jinping. He said he got a “beautiful” letter from Russian President Vladimir Putin, adding that a phone call between them is scheduled shortly.

Although he wasn’t specific, Mr. Trump suggested a shift away from what he said was the current Obama administration policy of attempting to find moderate Syrian opposition groups to support in the civil war there. “I’ve had an opposite view of many people regarding Syria,” he said.

He suggested a sharper focus on fighting Islamic State, or ISIS, in Syria, rather than on ousting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. “My attitude was you’re fighting Syria, Syria is fighting ISIS, and you have to get rid of ISIS. Russia is now totally aligned with Syria, and now you have Iran, which is becoming powerful, because of us, is aligned with Syria. … Now we’re backing rebels against Syria, and we have no idea who these people are.”

If the U.S. attacks Mr. Assad, Mr. Trump said, “we end up fighting Russia, fighting Syria.”

On a different foreign hot spot, the Israel-Palestine situation, which Mr. Trump called “the war that never ends,” he said he hoped to help craft a resolution between them.

“That’s the ultimate deal,” Mr. Trump said. “As a dealmaker, I’d like to do…the deal that can’t be made. And do it for humanity’s sake.”

On domestic policy, Mr. Trump said he is eager to focus on the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial-overhaul law, which he called “a tremendous burden to the banks.” He said: “We have to get rid of it or make it smaller.… Banks are unable to lend. It’s made our country noncompetitive. It’s slowed down growth.”

He noted that people who have money haven’t been affected by the increased financial regulations. “I can borrow money,” Mr. Trump said. “The people who are really good, but need money to open a business or expand a business, can’t borrow money from the banks.”

Write to Monica Langley at monica.langley@wsj.com