Worst/Best Presidents Ever!

Gustanza_The

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And yes, though there is no such thing as perfect leaders, we can be sure of a few things that good leaders have:

[1]A vision of the future (where he/she want to take the nation).

[2] The ability to articulate that vision and encourage others (followers/citizens) to jump into that vision, work hard on it, until the vision is achieved.

[3] (deleted): not relevant in the 21st century.

Now, Making the Grades:

First, my all-time favorite presidents in the world:

1. Thomas Sankara (Burkina Faso) "A-"
2. Alexander Lukashenko (Belarus) "B+"
3. Julius Nyerere (Tanzania) "B-"
4. Evo Morales (Bolivia) "B-"
5. Paul Kagame (Rwanda) "B-"

Second, the worst Presidents of all-time:

1. Hassan Ahmad AL BASHIR (Sudan) "D+"
2. "Mtalii" Jakaya Kikwete (Tanzania): "D-"
3. Idd Amin "Dada" (Uganda) He gets " F"
4. (deleted): He also gets "F"
5. "Mad" Bob Mugabe (Zimbabwe): I don't even know what to give this guy. He doesn't even deserve a " K-".

P.S. Ali H. Mwinyi (Tanzania): was # 9 on this list.

Congratulation,Tanzania !!
 

mtaalamu_wake

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Now, Making the Grades:

First, my all-time favorite presidents in the world:

1. Thomas Sankara (Burkina Faso) "A-"
2. Alexander Lukashenko (Belarus) "B+"
3. Julius Nyerere (Tanzania) "B-"
4. Evo Morales (Bolivia) "B-"
5. Paul Kagame (Rwanda) "B-"

Gustanza, unataka kusema Sankara ni bora kumshinda Nyerere?
 

Gustanza_The

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Gustanza, unataka kusema Sankara ni bora kumshinda Nyerere?

Yup!
Inapokuja kwenye sifa za kiongozi bora, kinacho matter zaidi ni utendaji bora wa kazi (sio maneno matupu). Kadhalika pia uwezo wa huyo kiongozi kuchonga vision of the future (kwa nchi yake) na kuwahimiza/shawishi wananchi wake kufuata hiyo vision.
Ndo maana utashangaa kuona nimpempatia Sankara "A-" kwasababu alikuwa ana-possess almost hizo qualities zote nilizozitaja hapo juu—even though he had some serious personal flaws compared to Mwl Nyerere aliyeramba "B-" .
 

Son of Alaska

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hili swali needs a bit of homework,cause kuna marais upheavels zao,ziliaffect not only their countries but the world over,positively or negatively.hence on this outlook the likes of sankara dont fit the mould-ngoja niende kazini nikirudi i will look kiundani at this
 

mtaalamu_wake

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hili swali needs a bit of homework,cause kuna marais upheavels zao,ziliaffect not only their countries but the world over,positively or negatively.hence on this outlook the likes of sankara dont fit the mould-ngoja niende kazini nikirudi i will look kiundani at this

Mimi mwenyewe namshangaa huyu Gustanza jinsi anvyojaribu kumfananisha Nyerere na Sankara. Huyo Sankara mwenyewe alishaanza kuwa Mugabe wa enzi hizo tushukuru tu wajanja walimuondoa mapema.
 

Bongolander

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Yup!
Inapokuja kwenye sifa za kiongozi bora, kinacho matter zaidi ni utendaji bora wa kazi (sio maneno matupu). Kadhalika pia uwezo wa huyo kiongozi kuchonga vision of the future (kwa nchi yake) na kuwahimiza/shawishi wananchi wake kufuata hiyo vision.
Ndo maana utashangaa kuona nimpempatia Sankara "A-" kwasababu alikuwa anakaribia kwa kiasi fulani hizo qualities zote, even though he had some serious flaws compared to Mwl aliyeramba "B-" .

Ndugu yangu mimi naona kumwachia mtu mmoja achonge vision ya nchi kubna hatari sana. Cha ajabu kinachoweza kutokea ni kuwa anaweza kuchonga vision kwa maslahi yake binafsi na sio ya nchi as whole. Angalia sasa hivi vision ya JK ilivyo. Ana lengo la kutengeneza mabilioni 100 may be Chenge and Lowassa type, sasa hiyo ni hatari. Ni vizuri tukiwapa wataalamu kazi hiyo na serikali yoyote inayoingia madarakani itekeleze mipango iliyoandaliwa na wataalamu.
 

Interested Observer

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And yes, though there is no such thing as perfect leaders, we can be sure of a few things that good leaders have:

[1]A vision of the future (where he/she want to take the nation).

[2] The ability to articulate that vision and encourage others (followers/citizens) to jump into that vision, work hard on it, until the vision is achieved.

[3] (deleted): not relevant in the 21st century.

Now, Making the Grades:

First, my all-time favorite presidents in the world:

1. Thomas Sankara (Burkina Faso) "A-"
2. Alexander Lukashenko (Belarus) "B+"
3. Julius Nyerere (Tanzania) "B-"
4. Evo Morales (Bolivia) "B-"
5. Paul Kagame (Rwanda) "B-"

Second, the worst Presidents of all-time:

1. Hassan Ahmad AL BASHIR (Sudan) "D+"
2. "Mtalii" Jakaya Kikwete (Tanzania): "D-"
3. Idd Amin "Dada" (Uganda) He gets " F"
4. (deleted): He also gets "F"
5. "Mad" Bob Mugabe (Zimbabwe): I don't even know what to give this guy. He doesn't even deserve a " K-".

P.S. Ali H. Mwinyi (Tanzania): was # 9 on this list.

Congratulation,Tanzania !!

For both your first and second list (excluding Nyerere); I see you comparing desports! Your socialist/communist ideas led you draw such a comparison; most of those were/are worst leaders!
 

Son of Alaska

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gustanza,nimekupata,swala la marais ni gumu kidogo,ili tuelewane inabidi tuingie na mambo mengine kidogo.
the greatest boxer of all time is considered,undisputedly as mohamed Ali
the greatest musician of all time is considered to be Elvis presley
the greatest footballer of all time is considered to be Pele
the father and probably the best president to come out of africa is none other then OSAGYEFO KWAME NKURUMAH.he had his drawbacks,but it is an undisputed fact that he was ahead of his times.from the word go,he knew ghana would always remain a neo colony unless it industrialised.he cut production of consumer goods,and ploughed all the capital available to the building of the akosombo dam.ghanians suffered,but he argued it was for the future generation,once electricity was available he argued ghana would take the great leap forward,unfortunately before his dream was fullfilled amilitary coup cut his tenure short.historians and economists alike have now realized nkurumah was right,the only problem,being the generation then did not understand him.such was his standing,immediatly after his overthrow,sekou toure appointed him honorary vice president of GUINEA
 

Ab-Titchaz

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Worst Presidents:

  • Adolf Hitler
  • Agusto Pinochet
  • Idi Amin
  • Jean Bedel Bokassa
  • Pol Pot - leader of the Khmer Rouge around 1975 - 1979
Best...Can't tally them up but no matter who you come up with,
lazima Mandela awemo!
 

Nikifufukammekwisha

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Kagame is the best. Kitendo cha yeye cha ku-turn around economy ya Rwanda pamoja na kuwa na genocide miaka michache iliyopita kinastahili pongezi. I wish he was the president of Danganyika. Labda, angetupeleka mbali mno ikizingatiwa kwamba sisi hatujapata maafa makubwa compared to what he's gone through.
 

Gustanza_The

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Best... Can't tally them up but no matter who you come up with, lazima Mandela awemo!

Well, Mandela was a President of exceptional personal qualities ( i.e. his capacity to extend forgiveness kwa Makaburu and all those other things...); but with all due respect [I know this may sound silly to some of you], ukiachilia dhamira yake ya kupigania ukombozi wa mtu mweusi (ambapo hata hilo tu alishindwa), he had no clear vision of where he wanted to take his country. Besides, alikuta Makaburu wameteng'eneza kila kitu. So this Mandela guy probably deserves a "C+"
 

Sikonge

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Worst Presidents:

[*]Adolf Hitler

QUOTE]
Titchaz,
Huyu jamaa muache kama alivyo. Nusu yake ni F na Nusu yake ni A. Ukiunga na kugawanya, unapata C. Nafikiri ndiyo jibu zuri.
Huyu jamaa ameigeuza dunia. Ujinga wake umeifanya dunia yetu hii iwe ilipo. Kuanzia kwenye madawa, maji salama (Clorine gas), magari mazuri, Atomic energy and bombs, rockets, nk. Waliiba sana nchi nyingine na kupeleka kwao. Na wengi walitoroka na mipesa na kwenda Argentina na Sweden. Mambo yalivyotulia wakarudi na mahela yao. Wajeruman walifaidika sana mwanzo. Kuna hadi PAPA na yeye alikuwa anachukua wafungwa na kwenda kuwatumikisha kwa bei chee..... Ubaya na uzuri wake inategemea unaangalia ukiwa upande gani. NAsikia aliugua VD na ndiyo maana ma CD alikuwa na donge nao sana.
 

Phillemon Mikael

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Worst Presidents:

[*]Adolf Hitler

QUOTE]
Titchaz,
Huyu jamaa muache kama alivyo. Nusu yake ni F na Nusu yake ni A. Ukiunga na kugawanya, unapata C. Nafikiri ndiyo jibu zuri.
Huyu jamaa ameigeuza dunia. Ujinga wake umeifanya dunia yetu hii iwe ilipo. Kuanzia kwenye madawa, maji salama (Clorine gas), magari mazuri, Atomic energy and bombs, rockets, nk. Waliiba sana nchi nyingine na kupeleka kwao. Na wengi walitoroka na mipesa na kwenda Argentina na Sweden. Mambo yalivyotulia wakarudi na mahela yao. Wajeruman walifaidika sana mwanzo. Kuna hadi PAPA na yeye alikuwa anachukua wafungwa na kwenda kuwatumikisha kwa bei chee..... Ubaya na uzuri wake inategemea unaangalia ukiwa upande gani. NAsikia aliugua VD na ndiyo maana ma CD alikuwa na donge nao sana.

sikonge nakuunga mguu..guys..adolph hitler becide genocide aliu turn uchumi wa ujerumani ya leo ....kuanzia utafiti ,viwanda..ets just imagine miaka kumi aiyotawala ujerumani alileta MAENDELEO ya ajabu..na uwezo mkubwa kiuchumi ...

uwezo wa ujerumani ..hata kijeshi na kuweza kutaka kuitawala dunia ..kulihitajiresource nyingi ambayo leo hii hata marekani akianzisha vita ya dunia atapigwa na hawezi kufikia hata robo ya uwezo wa hitler kijeshi by comparizon...kwenye ile vita kosa kubwa alilofanya hitler ni kuchagua kuipiga RUSSIA kupitia siberia kipindi cha baridi kali....kipigo chao kilianzia hapo...

iwapo ujerumani hawangepigana leo wangekuwa mbali hata zaidi......

hata sisi tanzania tumeathirika na kipigo chao..kwa kuwa kipindi cha ujerumani maendeleo mengi yalifanyika tanganyika....muingereza hakujenga chochote zaidi ya kuchuma na kupeleka kenya...


kosa
 

Son of Alaska

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ADOLF HITLER,deserves,his place in history,huyu mtu history imejaribu kumdiscredit,lakini he towers above the rest.the art of modern warfare was perfected by him,authbahn or motorways,were his byproducts.the volkswagen,the peoples car was a product of his nation.what if he had not fought the second world war,germany would have been one hell of an advanced nation--HEIL HITLER
 

Gustanza_The

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...and probably the best president to come out of africa is none other then OSAGYEFO KWAME NKURUMAH. he had his drawbacks, but it is an undisputed fact that he was ahead of his times.from the word go,he knew ghana would always remain a neo colony unless it industrialised.he cut production of consumer goods,and ploughed all the capital available to the building of the akosombo dam. ghanians suffered, but he argued it was for the future generation...

Son of Alaska, no one dispute the fact that Nkrumah tried hard to do great things for his country Ghana. But also remember that for the most of the things he attempted, he failed in a very, very big way!


Well, I should probably give him a "C+"
 

Son of Alaska

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SANKARA,was just a layman,with no clear cut vision,he was just going with the flow,revolutionary blah,blah.how he was murdered elevated him to cult status
 

Son of Alaska

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kagame, looks to be doing well,kwa sababu he is riding on the crest of world sympathy,the infighting,and the resultant genocide,shook the world to its core,hence some sort of marshall plan seems to keep this country on the right trek.all in all, mark by words,this country is a ticking time bomb.there is so much mistrust,for the honeymoon to last
 

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