Why do people blow the whistle? Would you?

Why do people blow the whistle? Would you?

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The individual responsible for one of the most significant leaks in US political history is Edward Snowden, a 29-year-old former technical assistant for the CIA and current employee of the defence contractor Booz Allen Hamilton. Snowden has been working at the National Security Agency (NSA) for the last four years as an employee of various outside contractors, including Booz Allen and Dell.

The Guardian (UK), after several days of interviews, has revealed his identity at his request. From the moment he decided to disclose numerous top-secret documents to the public, he was determined not to opt for the protection of anonymity. "I have no intention of hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong," he said.
Snowden will go down in history as one of America's most consequential whistle-blowers, alongside Daniel Ellsberg and Bradley Manning. He is responsible for handing over material from one of the world's most secretive organisations – the NSA. In a note accompanying the first set of documents he provided, he wrote: "I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions," but "I will be satisfied if the federation of secret law, unequal pardon and irresistible executive powers that rule the world that I love are revealed even for an instant."

When asked why decided to become a whistle-blower, he replied, "The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything. With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting. If I wanted to see your emails or your wife's phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your emails, passwords, phone records, credit cards. I don't want to live in a society that does these sort of things … I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under."

When asked what do the leaked documents reveal, he said "That the NSA routinely lies in response to congressional inquiries about the scope of surveillance in America. I believe that when [senator Ron] Wyden and [senator Mark] Udall asked about the scale of this, they [the NSA] said it did not have the tools to provide an answer. We do have the tools and I have maps showing where people have been scrutinised most. We collect more digital communications from America than we do from the Russians."

Edward Snowden's leaks about the NSA's electronic surveillance make him one of the most damaging whistle-blowers in history. But what drives loyal employees to reveal the truth? And how do they live with the backlash? Would you ever become or even considering becoming a whistle-blower? Well, let's hear what other whistle-blowers have to say.

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Annie Machon, a former MI5 officer, Machon resigned from the security service, along with her then partner David Shayler, in 1996, and blew the whistle on alleged failures and crimes, including illegal MI5 phone taps. I think Edward Snowden is in for a rough ride. But the way he has run the whole exposure and disclosure of the crimes of the NSA and what they are doing against the American people and people around the world has been very sophisticated.

Obviously, he will have taken on board the sort of security and extradition issues that he needs to think about. From what I can see, he has taken very careful steps to protect those closest to him. The message he is putting out now is why he is doing it, why it is important, why people need to listen to what he is saying. I think it has been very, very well done.

What the NSA is doing is turning the US – and, by extension, the rest of the world – into a Big Brother surveillance state. As soon as you get into this situation where the nuts and bolts of the internet – Google, Facebook, a system we all use – can be used to spy on us, whether those companies know it or not, we have no privacy whatsoever. And once we have no privacy on the internet, we lose any sense of freedom to express ourselves openly. We lose our freedom to download information and ingest information openly. So we lose free society. Free thought requires free media.

I hope the Obama administration has learned from prosecuting and persecuting multiple whistle-blowers, Bradley Manning being just one of them. They are not winning the war of the desire for information to be free, the desire for people to be informed. I think normal young people within the intelligence agencies are going to think: Well, actually, we are doing this for good reasons not bad reasons. And they will speak out.

Often people who blow the whistle try to deal with the issue in-house. We certainly did. You go to your boss and say: "This is wrong." You say: "We should learn from mistakes made." And they tell you just to shut up, not rock the boat and follow orders. What does it take to be a whistle-blower? Often the very trait that attracts you to intelligence work – that is, to make a real difference, protect your country's way of life and potentially save lives. To stand up against organisational groupthink and say: "This is wrong", knowing you face not just loss of career but also loss of liberty, takes courage – and Snowden has that in spades.

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When John Walker Lindh, the so-called "American Taliban", was captured in Afghanistan, Jesselyn Radack (above), a former legal ethics adviser at the US Department of Justice during the aftermath of 9/11, was asked by criminal prosecutors if they could question him without a lawyer present. She said not because he already had legal counsel, but she later found that her emails confirming this crucial information were missing from his file and prosecutors proceeded to question Lindh without representation. She resigned in protest and later blew the whistle anonymously via an article in Newsweek magazine.

My heart sank when I found my emails had been purged. I had sent Lindh 14 and only two remained in his prosecution file. I knew Lindh didn't have a lawyer present and he was facing the death penalty. I was young – about the age of Edward Snowden – so I asked a senior prosecutor for advice. He confirmed the emails had been purged. I called my husband and told him I was going to resign. He was very supportive. I managed to retrieve the missing emails and I photocopied them. A few hours later, I walked into my boss's office and tendered my resignation.

Within a few weeks I had another job. But it didn't last. A few weeks later, DoJ officials brazenly marched into my new law firm saying I was a criminal and that I had stolen documents. I was crying everyday thinking about it all. After an article in Newsweek magazine, my identity was [accidentally] revealed. This embarrassed me further at work. I faced prosecution and, in my defence, my lawyer said I was a whistleblower. But my firm put me on unpaid leave. I felt they had abandoned me. I was placed into a state of purgatory at work.

It actually brought me and my husband closer. However, some family members were disappointed. They thought I had thrown my education and career away. The government was calling me a traitor. You have to remember what that time after 9/11 was like. Most of my "friends" stopped talking to me. I got the cold shoulder from the soccer moms and at the synagogue. My two little kids lost all their playmates.

Our family income was cut in half. I was placed on the no-fly list. They tried to de-bar me from working in law. I ran up $100,000 in legal costs. From 2002 to 2006, I was defending multiple investigations. It really was David v Goliath. I was never able to work for a law firm again. But then I had another child. It kept me grounded. I was determined not to be chased out of the town I loved.

I do not regret it at all. How could you, if you knew someone's life was on the line? I have moved on and love what I do. [Radack is now the director of national security and human rights at the Government Accountability Project.] I applaud Snowden. He is brave, courageous and clearly has a strong moral compass. But it is an incredibly isolating process. Most people don't wake up saying, "I'm going to be a whistle-blower today". They struggle with it. It is a crisis of conscience.

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Derek Pasquill, a former British Foreign Office official was sacked but cleared of Official Secrets charges in 2008 for leaking documents about what Britain knew of the US's policy of extraordinary rendition, and guidance about which Muslim organisations ministers should embrace.

Snowden raises the whole question of civil liberties and of the government spying on people. It is a huge case. Whistle-blower cases over the last 10 years have got bigger and bigger – WikiLeaks, Bradley Manning. You can reveal things at the touch of a button. So governments might be quite concerned about the level of their security in the future.

Why do people blow the whistle? It comes down to intuition. Something's not quite right. I was in a specific position to do something. There were two strands – the policy of "extraordinary rendition" of terror suspects and confusion surrounding that term – and concern about using the Muslim Council of Britain as a one-stop shop [for guidance on the British Muslim community]. It was a misguided policy, so I blew the whistle. Snowden will be in a difficult position. I was dismissed by the Foreign Office for gross misconduct. I am now working on a project on 17th-century art.

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Seth Freedman was the whistle-blower at the centre of the gas price-fixing scandal in November 2012. He was working as UK wholesale gas price reporter for ICIS Heron when he noticed unusual movements in the market, which are still being investigated by the British regulators - FSA and Ofgem.

I watched the interview with Snowden and he appears pretty unimpeachable – it certainly doesn't seem as if he has any ulterior motive. He is a very inspiring figure for potential whistle-blowers: he hasn't acted rashly; he has been very methodical in how he has gone about it. It is sobering because he has obviously realised that this could be the end of everything for him: his job, his relationships, everything. That is a very principled stand to take.

When I first worked in the [London] City, as a coked-up teenage trader, I saw corruption around the clock, but I never spoke out. Too much to lose, I thought; too many consequences if I dared rock the boat. But this time round – older, wiser, far more sober – it wasn't so easy to stay silent. Every passing day brought more traders telling me the market was manipulated, and when hard evidence appeared to back up their claims and my bosses dragged their heels about approaching the regulators, I found myself standing at a familiar crossroads. This time I took the right turn.

The inevitable industry backlash was sharp and swift, and I was smeared in public, suspended from work and made a sector-wide pariah. Suspension turned to dismissal, and a journalist was asked to delve into my past. I would do it again, but only just. My allegations were political dynamite, given the backdrop of recent financial scandals and the public's hatred of power companies, so I was well supported by press and politicians alike, and was empowered as a result. Most whistle-blowers aren't anywhere near as protected, and suffer all the more for it.

I still look over my shoulder, wonder who is reading my emails or listening to my calls, but I have done nothing wrong. I am not the bad guy, despite my firm's clamourous claims to the contrary. You see the best in some people in a situation like this, but you see the worst in many more. Apathetic regulators, amoral management, corporate automatons all paid handsomely to dispense with principles and just protect the industry by any means necessary.

Politicians talk the talk in public, but in private they admit they don't have a clue how the markets work and thus have precious little idea how to make change for the better. The fear that my allegations and evidence will simply be swept under the carpet is one of the most distressing parts of the whole experience. But still I have no regrets: I did what I could to try to right a scandalous wrong.

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In 1999, Eileen Chubb and six other care workers spoke out against abuses they had witnessed against elderly residents at a Bupa-run home in Kent, in the UK. She has since founded Compassion in Care. Until I blew the whistle, I lived in a different country. I had an impeccable work record, I had been promoted, but then my life was turned upside-down.

After we left the care home, it was clear we were unemployable. I would ring up for a job, but as soon as I said my name, I would get no further. They would say: "Oh sorry, the job has just gone." That happened dozens of times. Sometimes, I would be asked outright: "Are you one of those Bupa women?"

We were reduced to selling our belongings in car boot sales. Then we would put the money together and see who the worst-affected was that week. Some of the people in our group were evicted from their homes. Others are living in hostels and caravans and going to food banks. I have got no pension, no savings, nothing. And we are in that position because we did the right thing.

The problem is, people don't trust whistle-blowers. There is a stigma attached to it. I have lost friends as a result. "It's not your problem," people say, but once your eyes are open to what is going on and what happens to people, you can never close them again, and that is a very lonely place to be. My husband has been an absolute rock. But some people are not so lucky, and this can crack open their whole lives.

Edward Snowden should be given a medal. People who do the right things, such as he and Bradley Manning, should be recognised and celebrated instead of being tarred and punished. Sometimes, I wonder what my life would be like if I hadn't blown the whistle. I never regret it, though. The people I tried to defend were my friends, and if I had done anything different, I would have lost part of myself.

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In 2010, Ian Foxley (on left) was working as the programme director for a British subsidiary of defence giant EADS on a £1.96bn contract to modernise the communications systems for the Saudi Arabian National Guard. When he came across evidence of corruption and bribery he fled the country and reported it to British officials, triggering a Serious Fraud Office investigation. He is now chair of Whistleblowers UK.

Snowden seems like a very intelligent chap. But his and Bradley Mannings's problem is that they were part of intelligence organisations and had signed up to that. They should have taken it up with their chain of command. I have a problem with what Manning did, releasing everything like that. Snowden also took an ideological stand. He should have resigned on moral grounds and threatened to his seniors that he would go the press if they didn't act.

In my case, I started detecting "red flags". Certain things just weren't making sense. There were lots of potential factors that could explain some of the odd behaviour I saw. Perhaps it was just the cultural difference of working in Saudi Arabia? But then the balance tipped. I knew something was wrong. I wrestled with it all night – I call it my "Gethsemane Night". But by the morning I had decided what to do. I had to secure the hard evidence of wrong-doing and then take it to a trusted external agency.

I soon realised I had been utterly betrayed. A Saudi princess [representing his company] told me in a meeting at the top of a tall office tower that they would have me arrested. I knew within seconds this meant my life was in danger. I had realised before that whistleblowing might jeopardise my job, but not my life.

The local Ministry of Defence (MoD) military office thankfully got me out of Saudi. But I didn't go home. I found a safe place. I needed to make sure that the documents could be released if I disappeared. I then told the MoD that if they did nothing about this then I would go to the papers. The MoD police took it up. I knew then that the big boys would take notice.

I have noticed since how many whistle-blowers are Catholics like me. Maybe it's our in-built moral code? It would have been moral cowardice to have walked away. But there were certainly repercussions. We lost a fortune – my job, our lifestyle. No one in the industry would hire me. I was too hot to handle. Just ask my wife what it has done to my health. It has had stressful implications for my wife, friends and children. We have run through our savings and it has caused our health to degrade. You don't just lose your job when you blow the whistle.

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As an executive at HBOS (a British bank), Paul Moore drew the board's attention to excessive risks that he believed the bank was taking. He was subsequently dismissed in 2004. There you were, at the top of your profession, earning £700,000 a year, everything that your children want they can have. You are a respected person, people listen to you, you have a sense of achievement. And it all gets taken away. You are then at home, and you feel useless, and you begin to think they are right and you are wrong, because they crush it out of you. Imagine how you feel about the way you are.

Would anybody give me a job, or even talk to me about a job? No. You get treated like an outcast, a leper, toxic waste. I remember getting a text from a supplier of training services saying: "Paul, I hope you won't mind me saying this, but please don't be in contact with me. I'm sure you can understand why."

Whistle-blowers speak up because they love the organisation they work for, then they experience pretty much the same sequence of events. 1) They are ignored. 2) They are demeaned. 3) They are dismissed. 4) After they speak up, they are publicly rubbished. 5) Everybody, even the people who were their friends, scatter like the four winds.
Think about the emotional upset of a child who gets treated really unfairly. It's a very deeply wounding thing, but you can get over that relatively quickly. What is most difficult is the way your friends scatter. It takes a very long time to come to terms with that.

If Snowden has gone through a proper process to try to get this issue dealt with internally, and that hasn't worked, then absolutely he should speak up. It is only by people like that speaking up that we actually see things. I thought about killing myself numerous times. If it hadn't been for my wife, I would probably be dead. But I now am the person that I always was, so it has all turned out well in the end. The truth does set you free.

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As nurse in the Accidents & Emergency department, Helene Donnelly spent years insisting that there were serious problems at Stafford Hospital in the UK before they eventually came to light. I don't know the Snowden case, but I think that if anybody has genuine concerns that are in the public interest, then they are duty-bound to raise them. If you're a nurse, especially, it's part of your professional code of conduct to speak up if you see things that are not right.

I do appreciate how hard it is, however. Initially, I found it quite traumatic – especially dealing with the backlash from my colleagues. Although the vast majority supported what I was doing, a lot felt that they had to do it anonymously. People are worried about losing their jobs, or threats from their workmates, or maybe the implication for their families, and I don't want to dismiss those fears. You may go through the process of sticking your neck on the line, and then nothing changes, which is clearly very demoralising. But it's only through brave people that these things can be revealed and – hopefully – changes made.

I think there is a shift now, and that's beginning to change – albeit very slowly. Hopefully "whistle-blower" is becoming not a stigma to be afraid of, but something to take pride in. I am now working for a different trust, Staffordshire and Stoke on Trent [in the UK], where I have been given the rather grand title of ambassador for cultural change. Essentially, I am promoting a healthy culture, the importance of raising concerns, and how to go about doing it, as well as offering support to staff. This trust is very keen to get the message out that it wants to hear from its staff if things are not right. I am only able to do that because I have been through it myself.

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When he was chief of the United Lincolnshire Hospitals trust in the UK, Gary Walker noticed that its hospitals were becoming dangerously full. He was sacked when he refused to disregard the problem. I think these leaks from Snowden are just the beginning of us all starting to ask questions about what information governments have got on us. For him, I suspect he is going to be unemployable. Certainly no government office is ever going to hire him. And I would have thought most big companies would be concerned in case he whistle-blows on them. The reality for him is that he did the right thing but, like most whistle-blowers, that is probably not going to be rewarded.

In my case, I have found not many people want to employ me, apart from charities. I am also doing lots of work with individuals who need help. I have even done a law degree and represented people in employment tribunals to help them fight their case. The reality is that while I had a "promising career", apparently, I cannot ever work in the NHS again, because I took on the people at the top.

There is also the toll it takes on family and friends. I was in a relationship when I voiced my concerns, and that relationship broke down after six years. The house was on the line, and we were £100,000 in debt with legal fees. I wasn't well for part of it either, and was on antidepressants for a period of time. But would I do it again? Of course. The safety of patients has to be what comes first.

Sources: The whistleblowers: 'The truth sets you free' | World news | The Guardian and Edward Snowden, NSA files source: 'If they want to get you, in time they will' | World news | The Guardian

So, would you reveal the truth against your employer? If, so, how would you live with the backlash?
 
Jamaa mwenye miaka 29 aliyekuwa mfanyakazi wa CIA kitengo maalumu cha udukuzi amejitokeza hong kong na kutoa siri kuwa yeye ndiye aliyevujisha siri ya kwamba Wamarekani wametengeneza technologia ya hatari ambayo inapekuwa simu na mitandao yote duniani,yani hata kama unapiga simu wenyewe wanarekodi,hali hii imetishia demokrasia duniani kote.
America ni noma,alafu wanadai china wana dukua mitandao yao kumbe America ni wenyewe wataalamu.
Source,bbc,al jazeera,cnn,dw,
 
Hiyo ndo kazi ya CIA ktk kuhakikisha kuwa USA inakuwa salama siku zote hivyo sioni shida hapo. Au unataka wawe kama usalama wetu wa Taifa ambao sasa umeamua kulinda maslahi ya mafisadi?
 
So umeamua kufanya nini baada ya hii taarifa
 
kama wewe sio gaidi na shughuli zako huziingilii maslahi ya wa-US hofu ya nini?chapa kazi.
 
Nahisi ulikuwa una wazo la kuidungua pentagon nyingine...
 
Jamaa mwenye miaka 29 aliyekuwa mfanyakazi wa CIA kitengo maalumu cha udukuzi amejitokeza hong kong na kutoa siri kuwa yeye ndiye aliyevujisha siri ya kwamba Wamarekani wametengeneza technologia ya hatari ambayo inapekuwa simu na mitandao yote duniani,yani hata kama unapiga simu wenyewe wanarekodi,hali hii imetishia demokrasia duniani kote.
America ni noma,alafu wanadai china wana dukua mitandao yao kumbe America ni wenyewe wataalamu.
Source,bbc,al jazeera,cnn,dw,

mkuu hizo ni kazi za NSA(National Security Agency) na wala si CIA.
Hao jamaa ndo wananasa mawasiliano ya watu na kuya analyse ili kutafuta yale ambayo yanayahatarisha usalama wa marekan.
Wanayo listening post yao ambayo wanaweza kunasa maongezi ya mtu yeyote yule.
CIA,NSA na yapo mengine yako chini ya Homeland security ila yana majukumu tofauti.
 
Na hiyo wanafanya ukiwa ndan ya USA tu sio mpka nje ila kwa mitandao ya kijamii wanauwezo wa kukufuatilia popote ulipo.. Yote tisa kumi jamaa mwenyewe katangazwa kupotea leo toka aondoke hotelin kwake jana hajarud
 
Jamaa hawaish kuhaha!
Mchina mwenzao anapeta tuu
 
Hiyo ndo kazi ya CIA ktk kuhakikisha kuwa USA inakuwa salama siku zote hivyo sioni shida hapo. Au unataka wawe kama usalama wetu wa Taifa ambao sasa umeamua kulinda maslahi ya mafisadi?

Sure hiyo ndo kazi ya Usalama wa Taifa sasa yeye kazoea kuona wa hapa nyumbani wakitembea na bisibisi wanang'oa kucha na meno..
 
kma hujui ni hujui tu na kamwe huwezi kujua kwa kulazimisha kujua,tafakarini aya maneno,msi coment kwa ajili ya kuongeza total ya coment zenu.
 
Jamaa mwenye miaka 29 aliyekuwa mfanyakazi wa CIA kitengo maalumu cha udukuzi amejitokeza hong kong na kutoa siri kuwa yeye ndiye aliyevujisha siri ya kwamba Wamarekani wametengeneza technologia ya hatari ambayo inapekuwa simu na mitandao yote duniani,yani hata kama unapiga simu wenyewe wanarekodi,hali hii imetishia demokrasia duniani kote.
America ni noma,alafu wanadai china wana dukua mitandao yao kumbe America ni wenyewe wataalamu.
Source,bbc,al jazeera,cnn,dw,

hiyo ndio kazi ya msingi ya usalama wa wa raia na mali zao sio kama usalama wa taifa wa hapa tz kutwa wanatembea na tupa wang'oe watu kucha
 
kma hujui ni hujui tu na kamwe huwezi kujua kwa kulazimisha kujua,tafakarini aya maneno,msi coment kwa ajili ya kuongeza total ya coment zenu.

Duh una mikwara....etlist ungecomment kitu flani ambacho we unakijui kuelimisha si tusiejua ili kujua kisichojulikana..
 
Jamaaa alikosea aiseee alitakiwa ajipange na jamaa wa wikileaks kutoka mwenyewe mbaya sana aisee
 
So umeamua kufanya nini baada ya hii taarifa

sio kwamba nimechukua uamuzi gani,ni suala la kujiliza wenzetu wapo dunia gani sasa,cheki walivyo advance ki technogykwa taarifa yako zipo hata silaha washagundua za ki biolojia lakini ni siri kali.
 
kama wewe sio gaidi na shughuli zako huziingilii maslahi ya wa-US hofu ya nini?chapa kazi.

sikia nkuambie,ni kuwa wanavunja sheria za kimataifa za kulinda mawasiliano ya mtu binafsi,cheki uingereza walivyo kuja juu hata Us kwenyewe tembelea blog ya white whise.
 
Sure hiyo ndo kazi ya Usalama wa Taifa sasa yeye kazoea kuona wa hapa nyumbani wakitembea na bisibisi wanang'oa kucha na meno..

sio ivyo,mkuu,our 9ational security agency na intelligecy inatakiwa ijipange sana,why America not Tanzania?,
ni mpaka lini tutanunua silaha kwa nini tusijenge za kwetu?
What is wrong?.
Oh God help us.
 
Jamaa mwenye miaka 29 aliyekuwa mfanyakazi wa CIA kitengo maalumu cha udukuzi amejitokeza hong kong na kutoa siri kuwa yeye ndiye aliyevujisha siri ya kwamba Wamarekani wametengeneza technologia ya hatari ambayo inapekuwa simu na mitandao yote duniani,yani hata kama unapiga simu wenyewe wanarekodi,hali hii imetishia demokrasia duniani kote.
America ni noma,alafu wanadai china wana dukua mitandao yao kumbe America ni wenyewe wataalamu.
Source,bbc,al jazeera,cnn,dw,

Kupekua simu na mitandao...:confused2::confused2:.. Sioni hatari yake iko wapi... Zaidi ya umbeya tu.
CIA wanajishusha kwa hilo.
In my opinion, that is the lowest point any human being can get.:coffee:
 
Huyo tayari wachina watakua wameshamnasa,suala la yeye kwenda kuropokea hongkong ni wazi kuwa alikua anapanga kutorokea china.
Ila vilevile yawezekana majasusi wa marekani wameshamnyaka na kama ndivyo,ataimba haleluya,wao huwa hawang'oi kucha,you just disappear without trace.
 
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