Who owns Mlimani City?


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I found this somewhere:

Barclays Bank of Botswana has made the biggest venture ever into the African continent by financing the Turnstar acquisition of the Mlimani City in Tanzania.

The deal has been calculated at US$ 33.5 million.

The transaction by Barclays is easily among the biggest by a Botswana based bank. The audacity of the deal is made even starker by the fact that it finances a concern that is outside the borders of Botswana.

Turnstar Holdings is a premier property development outfit listed with the Botswana Stock Exchange.
Barclays Bank Botswana Corporate Director, Seseti Mogami, has said the money will be used to acquire and further develop Mlimani City.

Seseti said a decision by Barclays Bank Botswana to go it alone was a vote of confidence in the viability and sustainability of Turnstar Holdings who are also the owners of Game City shopping complex in Gaborone.

Like Game City in Gaborone, Mlimani City has Game Store as the primary tenant.

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Kindly avail the source for further reading.
Also how about University of Dar es Salaam?
 
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Kindly avail the source for further reading.
Also how about University of Dar es Salaam?
I don't think if there's any problem with the UDSM because even "now", the owner of Mlimani City isn't UDSM! This means, the nature of contract between the UDSM and the original owner of Mlimani City will be similar if not the same between the UDSM and Turnstar Holdings! However, what I don't understand is why selling the property after 10 years of operations!! Were there some 10 years grace period attached with some incentives like tax holiday??!! Again, why selling such premium property at such price which, for me, is kind of cheap!!?? Is the located price the true price agreed between the parties or just a price which meant to minimize the size of capital gains tax with another amount being paid off Tanzanian government books?! Just thinking......
 
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I think that is funds for development. That piece of land is still property of UDSM.
 
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Kindly avail the source for further reading.
Also how about University of Dar es Salaam?
Turnstar bought Mlimani City Property Development 2012 in a 77 million US dollars (over 166.2bn/-) deal from Gulaam Husain Abdoola of G H Group which developed the University of Dar es Salaam area with an investment of 80 million US dollars (over 172.7bn/-) in early 2004/5.
as far a i know, the management of UDSM offered a land to Gulaam Husain Abdoola of G H Group in2004/ 2005 for the company to develop and invest in retail shops and real estate business in that piece of land.
I once spoke with one of the directors in 2007 during the construction of Mlimani City conference centre who cleary told me that UDSM management offered(he didnt mention the terms of the offer) land however UDSM is not a co-owner of the Mlimani City project.
 
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Turnstar bought Mlimani City Property Development 2012 in a 77 million US dollars (over 166.2bn/-) deal from Gulaam Husain Abdoola of G H Group which developed the University of Dar es Salaam area with an investment of 80 million US dollars (over 172.7bn/-) in early 2004/5.
as far a i know, the management of UDSM offered a land to Gulaam Husain Abdoola of G H Group in2004/ 2005 for the company to develop and invest in retail shops and real estate business in that piece of land.
I once spoke with one of the directors in 2007 during the construction of Mlimani City conference centre who cleary told me that UDSM management offered(he didnt mention the terms of the offer) land however UDSM is not a co-owner of the Mlimani City project.
 
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This is one of interesting issues/topics for discussion;
There are two propositions which require close scrutiny, one is Mlimani city a property of UDSM and the second is UDSM is a co-owner of the property however the article you are about to read will give a very different impression.

University of Dar es Salaam (UDSM) Deputy Vice- Chancellor, Professor Florens Luoga said Turnstar which is listed at Botswana Stock Exchange (BSE) bought a controlling stake at GH Group whose owner, Gulaam Abdoola is also a director at the former.

“Firstly, it is not true that UDSM had entered into any contract with GH Group. At all times the only party with whom UDSM has contract with is Mlimani Holdings Limited. This is a Tanzanian company whose records are available at BRELA.

But, briefly, the majority shareholder of MHL is GH Group,” Prof Luoga explained. He pointed out that although Turnstar has a controlling stake at GH Group which owns majority of shares at MHL, the BSE listed company has no status in Tanzania to ask for any tax exemption.

Prof Luoga said the only company that has preferential treatment is MHL. “This was accorded some incentives under the Tanzania In- vestment Centre (TIC) regime and subsequently the government executed a Performance Agreement with MHL to grant it some more specific tax incentives, particularly relating to loan repayments and interest on loans,” the UDSM Deputy Vice- Chancellor argued.

He further defended Abdoola as having not failed to meet his contractual obligations, saying as GH Group owner and MHL majority shareholder, the GH Group was implementing the Mlimani City Project in three phases which placed construction of the con- ference facility at the end of the phases.

“The first phase comprised the construction of the shopping mall. This is done and you are its physical witness. The second phase was the construction of residential houses and office blocks. You will agree that these obligations were duly discharged to satisfaction,” he noted.

Prof Luoga further pointed out that during the second phase, President Jakaya Kikwete specifically ordered for the construction of the high capacity conference facility which MHL obliged by con- structing the Mlimani City Conference Hall that was not previously planned at this stage. “They (MHL) therefore over performed their initial contractual undertakings.

The third and final phase was the construction of a value mart, a hotel and a botanical garden. This stage was interfered with at the onset of the world economic crunch. Banks were no longer ready to continue financing the project due to difficulties that beset the financial sector,” he pointed out.

But local experts maintained that Mlimani City Project is a going concern, which cannot fail to raise 80 million US dollars locally to complete the project, hence, questioned the authenticity of requesting another round of tax exemptions.

The city whose model and style has been overtaken by those developed by local investors such as Quality Centre of Quality Group, is said to be making between half a million and 750,000 US dollars (between 811.7m and 1.2bn/-) per month in rent.

“Turnstar is a listed company, where does it borrow the money from when it’s simply getting almost grants from BSE,which loan is being given tax exemption here?” the expert wondered, saying as a place where the country’s best brains are hatched, it is embarrassing that UDSM is repeating mistakes done by politicians.

The expert argued that Mlimani City is a project that will con- tinue minting money for the next 50 years questioning the reason why MHL is not listed at Dar es Salaam Stock Exchange (DSE) where local shareholders will also make money like their Botswana peers.

On the future of the project, Prof Luoga said, “MHL entered into dialogue with both UDSM and the government on extend- ing the due dates of performance. These were extended by agreement in order to enable MHL re-arrange its project financing and at the same time get the government to perform its undertakings under the performance agreement.”

He said Mlimani City remains property of UDSM and cannot be associated with any person as the deal is a model Public Private Partnership (PPP) arrangement. In a statement released by Turnstar soon after concluding the deal with GH Group, Managing Director Jacob Mothabane said by acquiring Mlimani City Property Development, the company is inheriting;

“A multi business area — a shopping centre with lettable space of about 19,000 square metres, a fully let office park consisting of four double storeys, A grade buildings with a let space of plus or minus 11,308 square metres, a conference centre with a full range of facilities and amenities which played a host to the African leg of the World Economic Forum (WEF) and a ready built residential housing estate with 50 units.”

In addition, Turnstar will also have access to about 7,500 square metres of undeveloped land for future use. According to Botswana Stock Exchange, Turnstar Holdings’ earnings after the first six months since acquiring Mlimani City in February 2012, increased by 35 per cent.
 
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duh kumbe kuijadili mlimani city lazima ujue inglish sasa nakubaliana na ile hali ninayoikuta kule ndani ya mall
You should have read first the content of PALACE. It said ENGLISH ONLY. So sometimes its better to leave things unspoken, it is not necessary to write or give an opinion on everything you read or hear. Chill brother and let the discussion carry on, don't try to take people out of the momentum please!

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This is one of interesting issues/topics for discussion;
There are two propositions which require close scrutiny, one is Mlimani city a property of UDSM and the second is UDSM is a co-owner of the property however the article you are about to read will give a very different impression.

University of Dar es Salaam (UDSM) Deputy Vice- Chancellor, Professor Florens Luoga said Turnstar which is listed at Botswana Stock Exchange (BSE) bought a controlling stake at GH Group whose owner, Gulaam Abdoola is also a director at the former.

“Firstly, it is not true that UDSM had entered into any contract with GH Group. At all times the only party with whom UDSM has contract with is Mlimani Holdings Limited. This is a Tanzanian company whose records are available at BRELA.

But, briefly, the majority shareholder of MHL is GH Group,” Prof Luoga explained. He pointed out that although Turnstar has a controlling stake at GH Group which owns majority of shares at MHL, the BSE listed company has no status in Tanzania to ask for any tax exemption.

Prof Luoga said the only company that has preferential treatment is MHL. “This was accorded some incentives under the Tanzania In- vestment Centre (TIC) regime and subsequently the government executed a Performance Agreement with MHL to grant it some more specific tax incentives, particularly relating to loan repayments and interest on loans,” the UDSM Deputy Vice- Chancellor argued.

He further defended Abdoola as having not failed to meet his contractual obligations, saying as GH Group owner and MHL majority shareholder, the GH Group was implementing the Mlimani City Project in three phases which placed construction of the con- ference facility at the end of the phases.

“The first phase comprised the construction of the shopping mall. This is done and you are its physical witness. The second phase was the construction of residential houses and office blocks. You will agree that these obligations were duly discharged to satisfaction,” he noted.

Prof Luoga further pointed out that during the second phase, President Jakaya Kikwete specifically ordered for the construction of the high capacity conference facility which MHL obliged by con- structing the Mlimani City Conference Hall that was not previously planned at this stage. “They (MHL) therefore over performed their initial contractual undertakings.

The third and final phase was the construction of a value mart, a hotel and a botanical garden. This stage was interfered with at the onset of the world economic crunch. Banks were no longer ready to continue financing the project due to difficulties that beset the financial sector,” he pointed out.

But local experts maintained that Mlimani City Project is a going concern, which cannot fail to raise 80 million US dollars locally to complete the project, hence, questioned the authenticity of requesting another round of tax exemptions.

The city whose model and style has been overtaken by those developed by local investors such as Quality Centre of Quality Group, is said to be making between half a million and 750,000 US dollars (between 811.7m and 1.2bn/-) per month in rent.

“Turnstar is a listed company, where does it borrow the money from when it’s simply getting almost grants from BSE,which loan is being given tax exemption here?” the expert wondered, saying as a place where the country’s best brains are hatched, it is embarrassing that UDSM is repeating mistakes done by politicians.

The expert argued that Mlimani City is a project that will con- tinue minting money for the next 50 years questioning the reason why MHL is not listed at Dar es Salaam Stock Exchange (DSE) where local shareholders will also make money like their Botswana peers.

On the future of the project, Prof Luoga said, “MHL entered into dialogue with both UDSM and the government on extend- ing the due dates of performance. These were extended by agreement in order to enable MHL re-arrange its project financing and at the same time get the government to perform its undertakings under the performance agreement.”

He said Mlimani City remains property of UDSM and cannot be associated with any person as the deal is a model Public Private Partnership (PPP) arrangement. In a statement released by Turnstar soon after concluding the deal with GH Group, Managing Director Jacob Mothabane said by acquiring Mlimani City Property Development, the company is inheriting;

“A multi business area — a shopping centre with lettable space of about 19,000 square metres, a fully let office park consisting of four double storeys, A grade buildings with a let space of plus or minus 11,308 square metres, a conference centre with a full range of facilities and amenities which played a host to the African leg of the World Economic Forum (WEF) and a ready built residential housing estate with 50 units.”

In addition, Turnstar will also have access to about 7,500 square metres of undeveloped land for future use. According to Botswana Stock Exchange, Turnstar Holdings’ earnings after the first six months since acquiring Mlimani City in February 2012, increased by 35 per cent.
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I don't think if there's any problem with the UDSM because even "now", the owner of Mlimani City isn't UDSM! This means, the nature of contract between the UDSM and the original owner of the Mlimani City will be similar if not the same between the UDSM and Turnstar Holdings! However, what I don't understand is why selling the property after 10 years of operations!! Were there some 10 years grace period attached with some incentives like tax holiday??!! Again, why selling such premium property at such price which, for me, is kind of cheap!!?? Is the located price the true price agreed between the parties or just a price which meant to minimize the size of capital gains tax with another amount being paid off Tanzanian government books?! Just thinking......
Mlimani City has not been sold. Turnstar were the original developers. That is what I understand. Barclays Botswana financed the project
 
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Hataree.............
 
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So this was a question to some Individuals in the mid months of 2016! yet it is now out from the CAG!
Salute to those who had the inquiry since then
 
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