Ukraine in Real War with Russia

[el nino]

Ukraine's president has told the BBC his country is now in a "real war" with Russia - and that Ukrainians should prepare for a major Russian offensive.

President Petro Poroshenko told the BBC's Fergal Keane he did not trust his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin.

However he said he had no option but to negotiate with Mr Putin.

Russia denies Western accusations that it has sent regular troops and armour to help the rebels in eastern Ukraine.

The United Nations says at least 6,000 people have been killed since fighting started in eastern Ukraine in April 2014.

Pro-Russian rebels made significant gains in the region, including, most recently, the rail hub of Debaltseve. They, and Russia, have denied they are receiving Moscow's support.

But Russia's role has again come into question, after the capture on Saturday of two men Ukraine said were elite Russian soldiers working in eastern Ukraine.

In a video, the men confirmed they were active Russian servicemen, but Moscow said they were no longer employed by the state when they were caught.


Russia denies it is supplying arms and personnel to separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine
Mr Poroshenko said: "Can I be absolutely clear with you this is not a fight with Russian-backed separatists, this is a real war with Russia.

"The fact that we captured...Russian regular special forces soldiers [is] strong evidence of that."

'We should be ready'
When asked whether he feared a summer offensive by Russia, Mr Poroshenko said: "I fear anything. I believe they are preparing an offensive and I think we should be ready and I think that we do not give them any tiny chance for provocation. That will totally be their responsibility."

Mr Poroshenko added that, despite not trusting Mr Putin, he had no option but to have faith in diplomacy.

He said he feared parts of eastern Ukraine could not be taken away from rebels by military means alone - meaning diplomacy was the only answer.

On Tuesday, Nato's Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg called for an end to snap exercises by Russia close to the Ukrainian border, and demanded Russia be "more transparent when it comes to their military activities".


Source: BBC

 

[The mountain lion]

Another propaganda from BBC.Hiyo heading na content ni vitu viwili tofauti.
Anyway BBC na CNN zitaendelea kuwadanganya watu wasiofahamu kwamba vyombo hivi vinatumika pia kueneza na kufuata matakwa ya serikali za nchi za Marekani na washirika wake.
Mkuu huo ni udaku tu kama wa GPL.

 

[JustDoItNow]

Ukraine hana ubavu wa kupigana full scare war na russians.
Atakuja kujuta. kwani hata americans hawawezi kupeleka askali wao huko wawasaidie. Russians wakiingia kwenye full scare war ni habari nyingine bana......

 

[Msigazi Mkulu]

Hako karais ka Ukraine mbona kana lia lia sana

 

[SirChief]

Another propaganda from BBC.Hiyo heading na content ni vitu viwili tofauti.
Anyway BBC na CNN zitaendelea kuwadanganya watu wasiofahamu kwamba vyombo hivi vinatumika pia kueneza na kufuata matakwa ya serikali za nchi za Marekani na washirika wake.
Mkuu huo ni udaku tu kama wa GPL.

Acha kujitoa ufaham wewe -----....kwa iyo unabisha kwamba pro-Russian rebels hawawi backed na Russia?
sio kila kitu ni propaganda kama unavyokariri wewe..fungua ubongo wako na uchunguze vitu..
Na hata siku moja huwezi kusikia RT wakiandika habari kama hii coz kila siku wako buzy kuisifia Russia na kuponda moves za US na kusema ni propaganda....Na ndiko unakokesha wewe huko RT kukaririshwa kwamba U.S ni mbaya sana kwa moves zake..Then mkikimbia mavita uko kwenu midle east na Africa mnakimbilia ulaya na U.S badala ya kwenda russia ambaye yuko jirani kabisa na nyie...Hamjielewi kabisa nyie.
BTW....Hujapata ile greencard bado mkuu upae U.S?..

 

[Victor wa happy]

Nimeangalia bbc asubui hii anaongea kama kakata tamaa iv.inabid EU waingilie kat hii saga lasvyo ukraine itajsalmisha kwa russia..watu zaid ya 6000 wamepoteza maisha

 

[Victor wa happy]

Another propaganda from BBC.Hiyo heading na content ni vitu viwili tofauti.
Anyway BBC na CNN zitaendelea kuwadanganya watu wasiofahamu kwamba vyombo hivi vinatumika pia kueneza na kufuata matakwa ya serikali za nchi za Marekani na washirika wake.
Mkuu huo ni udaku tu kama wa GPL.

Mkuu propaganda gan wakat rais wa ukraine ndo kaongea

 

[HIMARS]

US will not let Ukraine Fall

 

[Victor wa happy]

Ukraine hana ubavu wa kupigana full scare war na russians.
Atakuja kujuta. kwani hata americans hawawezi kupeleka askali wao huko wawasaidie. Russians wakiingia kwenye full scare war ni habari nyingine bana......

War is about tactics and supports from other countries...ustegemee Nato itakaa kmya kuona member wao anashambuliwa.kmbuka ujeruman hakuwah kushinda vita japo alikuwa na nguvu zaid chin ya watawala wa kijesh km kna hitler

 

[SirChief]

War is about tactics and supports from other countries...ustegemee Nato itakaa kmya kuona member wao anashambuliwa.kmbuka ujeruman hakuwah kushinda vita japo alikuwa na nguvu zaid chin ya watawala wa kijesh km kna hitler

Ukrain sio member wa NATO na ndio sabab nato wanapata ugumu kuingia directly kwe hiyo vita..na sababu hiyohiyo ndo inayompa Russia nguvu ya kuidrive ukrain anavyotaka

 

[Mandown]

Kwani kabla ya hapo Krimea ilikua ndani ya himaya ya nani ?

 

[SirChief]

Mkuu propaganda gan wakat rais wa ukraine ndo kaongea

Mkuu mijitu iliyokaririshwa vitu na RT bila kushirikisha ubongo wao ndo wenye majibu mepesi kama hayo....
yan wao kila kitu ni propaganda,majibu mepes tuu..hawana tofauti na viongoz wa ccm.

 

[Bukyanagandi]

War is about tactics and supports from other countries...ustegemee Nato itakaa kmya kuona member wao anashambuliwa.kmbuka ujeruman hakuwah kushinda vita japo alikuwa na nguvu zaid chin ya watawala wa kijesh km kna hitler

Nikweli mkuu, ila sahihisho kidogo - Ukraine bado hajawa member wa NATO....

 

[JustDoItNow]

Hako karais ka Ukraine mbona kana lia lia sana

kanaujua mziki ulivyomkubwa lakini kanajipendekeza wa USA na NATO

 

[JustDoItNow]

Nimeangalia bbc asubui hii anaongea kama kakata tamaa iv.inabid EU waingilie kat hii saga lasvyo ukraine itajsalmisha kwa russia..watu zaid ya 6000 wamepoteza maisha

mkuu eu wenyewe wanaogopa kutia timu pale. kama unakumbuka vizuri georgia walijipendekeza hivyo hivyo lakini walilia kama watoto wadogo. Hachana kabisa na bear mkuu.....

 

[msafwa93]

Mkuu mijitu iliyokaririshwa vitu na RT bila kushirikisha ubongo wao ndo wenye majibu mepesi kama hayo....
yan wao kila kitu ni propaganda,majibu mepes tuu..hawana tofauti na viongoz wa ccm.

Na ile mijitu inayokaririshwa propaganda na CNN/BBC akili zao ni kama viongozi wa boko haram..

 

[msafwa93]

US will not let Ukraine Fall

And RUSSIA WILL NOT LET UKRANE IN THE HANDS OF USA+NATO

 

[JustDoItNow]

War is about tactics and supports from other countries...ustegemee Nato itakaa kmya kuona member wao anashambuliwa.kmbuka ujeruman hakuwah kushinda vita japo alikuwa na nguvu zaid chin ya watawala wa kijesh km kna hitler

ukraine siyo member wa nato

 

[SirChief]

Na ile mijitu inayokaririshwa propaganda na CNN/BBC akili zao ni kama viongozi wa boko haram..

hiyo taarifa imetolewa na raisi.wa ukrain mwenyewe tena live bbc....iweje useme ni propaganda!?....tukisema mna uvivu wa kufikir tutakisea?

 

[Paul Alex]

US Secretary of State John Kerry has warned Petro Poroshenko against inciting any new hostilities after the Ukrainian president vowed to win back Donetsk Airport. Kerry was in Sochi for high level talks with President Vladimir Putin and Sergey Lavrov.
This was the first visit by a senior US official to Russia since the Ukrainian crisis broke out in 2014. Kerry has realized the need to "break down some of the mistrust on both sides."
The mood between both parties was cordial and the US secretary of state along with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov expressed a desire to see the Minsk agreement fully implemented.
"If indeed President Poroshenko is advocating a forceful engagement at this time, we would strongly urge him to think twice not to engage in this kind of activity," Kerry said during a joint press conference with Lavrov in the southern Russian city.
On Monday, President Poroshenko pledged to take Donetsk Airport back: "I have no doubt - we will free the airport, because it is our land. And we will rebuild the airport."
However, his statement brought swift condemnation from Kerry, who added it would "put Minsk in serious jeopardy" and that "we would be very very concerned about the consequences."
While Kerry and Lavrov admitted they didn't always see eye to eye on Ukraine, they did agree that the Minsk agreement is the best way to solve the crisis and that diplomacy is the only way to peace . The diplomats urged everyone who has influence on any party in the Ukrainian conflict, to use it in a positive manner to ensure peace prevails.
"I urge him [Poroshenko], as I urge the Russians today. Anybody who has any control over anybody needs to take every step possible, to fully implement Minsk and clearly this means preventing any breaches of activity in regards to the ceasefire," Kerry added.