TISS and the Political Conondrum

Mr Q · Sep 13, 2018

should we amend our constitution? and give them power to intervene whatever is causing our Nation to head backward?
bcoz I'm told that their primary responsibility is to collect and handle collected info to the Head of state, further more their role is to advance Tanzania chief comforter and nothing else.

tutaelewana hivyo hivyo lugha ilikuja na meli. My opinion.

Diason David · Sep 13, 2018

What is my revolution?

KENZY · Sep 13, 2018

Kwanza ningependa kueleweshwa Tiss ni idara inayoshughulika na ulinzi wa viongozi au na mambo mengine..? ni heri ikafahamika bayana kuliko kupoteza muda wetu kupiga zogo hapa kwa kitu tusichokijua kiundani!,maana hivi vitu vinaenda na sheria kama hawajaruhusiwa kisheria basi TISS si wa kulaumiwa kama mfikiriavyo.

CHLOVEK · Sep 13, 2018

shige2 said:
As far as I am told their role is to advice the Government of the day. If the recipientof whatever does not ACT as per their advice or recommendation, It becomes therefore NONE of their business
As far as Katiba is concerned they are not an enforcement agency.as per se.

They are supposed to put on halt whatever jeopardizes the country from outside or within, even by using dark art.

Mzee Mukaruka · Sep 13, 2018

Mr Q said:
should we amend our constitution? and give them power to intervene whatever is causing our Nation to head backward?
bcoz I'm told that their primary responsibility is to collect and handle collected info to the Head of state, further more their role is to advance Tanzania chief comforter and nothing else.

tutaelewana hivyo hivyo lugha ilikuja na meli. My opinion.

Personally I have not understood you! Which TISS are you talking about hear TISS ile ya Tanzania Institute of Social Scientists au TISS hii ya Usalama wa Taifa? Fafanua tukujuze!

Sungusela · Sep 13, 2018

shige2 said:
Ze mleta mada shidu bringi zizi in lugha ya taifa kila mtu afidike.
Ama was it a preserve and meant for a certain CLASS of people?

Usilete kejeli kwenye mijadala muhimu !

Mr Q · Sep 13, 2018

Mzee Mukaruka said:
Personally I have not understood you! Which TISS are you talking about hear TISS ile ya Tanzania Institute of Social Scientists au TISS hii ya Usalama wa Taifa? Fafanua tukujuze!

hiyo ya pili. kuitaja hapo

Sungusela · Sep 13, 2018

shige2 said:
That is a philosophical question?
I can't think on your behalf sir!!

So "does it really matter ? "

- kANA - · Sep 13, 2018

ubongokid said:
All nations are built by heroes

Heroes who agree to be at the sideline of history.Fallen heroes whose name and praises can never be celebrated.People whose identity shall go into oblivion.

I am looking at the Tanzanian Intelligence Agency with their marvel and outstanding performance and I am left with only one question....What is their role in whatever is going on now.

Yes.As a nation we are at the point where everything is not what it is nor what it seems to be and people need answers to questions that should never have been asked in the first place.

My question today is on the role of our security machineries in the current political conondrum

I remain to be corrected

PBK

Politics over everything, that is our biggest night mare!

In other countries, security argencies serve their nations (the people), while in our country they serve the government (under a political party).

Our big boys will trace you out from the surburbs of the northern zone or from the peripheral of the southern regions, just for criticizing the ruling party. Meanwhile, they have no interest in the corrupt mineral contracts that leave our country with nothing!

Last time i heard the president complaining that the capitalists have taken over our gas from Mtwara, yet we are made to believe that our intelligence argency is among the best in Africa!

From RICHMOND, ESCROW and the like, one can learn that the people we should rely on do nothing but protecting our biggest enemies (corrupt leaders).

It is such a big shame that these guys won't even give us a little evidence to take these barbarian thieves to the court. Yet, they want our trust!

My patriotism and love for this country keeps deteriorating day after day, and i put all the blame on these guys.

Keep it up TISS, you guys are doing a great job for the country!

mikedean · Sep 13, 2018

In Tanzania the role of security agency such as TISS remain in shadow of politician.All their activities must go together with rulling party.Thats not good because some issue is done to favour the rulling party.Not for national benefit.Issue of loss and abduction and attack of some people in Tz had to be investigated by this body.But for now almost nothing goes on.

Mzee Mukaruka · Sep 13, 2018

Mr Q said:
hiyo ya pili. kuitaja hapo

Kama ni hii ya Usalama wa Taifa, subiri haya unayotaka kujua utayajua baada ya miaka 50 kwani hapo ndipo yatakapo wekwa wazi for public consumption. Hiyo ndivyo ilivyo kwa mambo ya siri kama sheria yetu ya siri za Taifa na usalama wa Taifa. Vinginevyo tufanye ubabaishaji tu juu ya uzi huu! Au siyo?

Mr Q · Sep 13, 2018

Mzee Mukaruka said:
Kama ni hii ya Usalama wa Taifa, subiri haya unayotaka kujua utayajua baada ya miaka 50 kwani hapo ndipo yatakapo wekwa wazi for public consumption. Hiyo ndivyo ilivyo kwa mambo ya siri kama sheria yetu ya siri za Taifa na usalama wa Taifa. Vinginevyo tufanye ubabaishaji tu juu ya uzi huu! Au siyo?

kama ulisoma mstar wa kwanza nilianza na je tuibadili katiba yetu ili kuwawezesha/kuwapa meno ili wawe na uwezo wa kuingilia na kuharibu chochote kinacho sababisha nchi yetu kurudi nyuma?

kwa sbb kazi zao "nasikia" ni kukusanya taarifa kuziwasilisha panapo husika na kushauri tu. hata wakute twiga anasafirishwa watapiga picha tu na kumwambia mkuu kilicho tokea mengine wanaachana nayo

kidodosi · Sep 13, 2018

MartinCoder said:
you mleta MADA; this is jukwaa la kiswahili ;therefore tafsiri your thread to lugha ya taifa la tanzania

ANYWAY LABDA KISWAHILI KINAMSUMBUA KAMA VP MSAADA MTU KUTAFASIRI TAFADHALI,

Mzee Mukaruka · Sep 13, 2018

Mr Q said:
kama ulisoma mstar wa kwanza nilianza na je tuibadili katiba yetu ili kuwawezesha/kuwapa meno ili wawe na uwezo wa kuingilia na kuharibu chochote kinacho sababisha nchi yetu kurudi nyuma?

kwa sbb kazi zao "nasikia" ni kukusanya taarifa kuziwasilisha panapo husika na kushauri tu. hata wakute twiga anasafirishwa watapiga picha tu na kumwambia mkuu kilicho tokea mengine wanaachana nayo

Labda. Lakini nadhani wakishauri na ukikubali ushauri wao, nani anatekeleza? Nadhani wanapewa madaraka na mamlaka ya kutekeleza kadri ya maagizo ya mkuu wao.

Koffi Yardley · Sep 13, 2018

TIBIM said:
Unaitwa ukweli mchungu wenye uhalisi wakiambiwa watu ooh mnahusudu weupe wkt ni fact true, adui no 1 wa mwafrica ni mwafrica mwenzake,we uoni polisi anapiga mtu asie Na silaha na aliyethibitiwa hata kuuwa nyoka kuna nafuu.Mkoloni mweupe mmoja aliwahi waambia wenzake hawa wanataka Uhuru wapeni Lkn hawatofika mbali kuzidi tulivowafikisha mbali wataishia kuuwana,kupora mali na kuzificha kwetu,Kwa sasa watu wanasadiki ya kwamba,vita vya ukombozi kumbe ilikuwa ni hadaa ya wachache kupata sapoti ya wengi wawafukuze wakoloni weupe, ili wao wakalie nafasi zao,ni kweli ukoloni ungalipo hata sasa kilichobadilika ni rangi, yote yaliyofanywa Na weupe yanafanya maradufu Na wakoloni weusi hata sasa kuuwa wanaowakosoa,kuiba mali za umma na kuficha ulaya,nk.Maisha ya mwafrica yamerudi nyuma yamekuwa ya hovyo sana baada ya Uhuru ni 10% ndo wenye kufurahia Uhuru,90% wako kwenye lindi La umasikini, ujinga,na maradhi,ukosefu wa utawala bora,ukiweza ishi Africa utoshindwa ishi jehanamu.

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Hivi punde said:
Magufuli ni shida sana. Jembe letu kali.

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MIGNON said:
It must reach a time when we should refrain from discussing this important state organ in public. Their modus Operandi doesn't allow them to share what they know in public and in that case, we will always be left with unmet curiosity even if we happen to live for 200 years.

Precisely ! Where in this world does such an agency 'advertise' accomplishments ? Whether their reports and recommendations are addressed is altogether another dimension.

SueIsmael · Sep 13, 2018

How to deal?

Disguise_Divert_Divide_Destroy

shige2 · Sep 13, 2018

Sungusela said:
So "does it really matter ? "

Sawa mkuu.

shige2 · Sep 13, 2018

Sungusela said:
Usilete kejeli kwenye mijadala muhimu !

Samahani.

shige2 · Sep 13, 2018

CHLOVEK said:
They are supposed to put on halt whatever jeopardizes the country from outside or within, even by using dark art.

Okay I did not know that?
Thank you.

Mjuni Lwambo · Sep 13, 2018

Kwa nchi za Afrika nyingi, hao jamaa huwa ni Usalama wa watawala, na sio taifa kama ambavyo wewe unafikiria.. got the point?

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