The Tale of Two Brave, Heroic RPF Inkotanyi Battalions

[mchambawima1]

President Kagame with troops during the liberation struggle.

On Tuesday, December 28, 1993 at around 11.00 am in Mulindi, near the Rwanda-Uganda border, a battalion of 600 battle-hardened refugees chanted as they waited to be escorted by Unamir (the UN Bluehelmets in Rwanda at the time) to Kigali. The battalion was under the leadership of Lt. Gen. Charles Kayonga, now Rwanda Defence Forces Chief of Staff.

These soldiers were part of the Rwanda Patriotic Army (RPA) the military wing of Rwanda Patriotic Front (RPF) Inkotanyi which was formed in 1987 by the sons and daughters of Rwandese refugees who had been denied the right to live in their country since 1959. They invaded Rwanda in 1990 until they pushed the government in place then to agree to negotiations that led to Arusha Peace Accords signed on August 4, 1993.

"Both parties agreed to form a transitional government based on power sharing between the ruling party, opposition parties and RPF Inkotanyi," says Senator Tito Rutaremara, who was RPF's Political Activities Coordinator (interchangeably also referred to as Secretary General) at the time. "It was initially about the Government and Parliament. The military merging would come later."

In the negotiations, the RPF requested that the transitional government operates in Byumba but the request was rejected. The genocidal regime wanted to give them Camp Kami which the RPF refused because the road to the camp was not tarmacked. The fear was that land mines might be planted along the road.

RPF then asked for Camp Kigali but the Government - seemingly fearing that it would be easy for them to take over Radio Rwanda just in case things change, as well as the fact that they would look weak by ceding the main military camp in Kigali - once again denied the request.

"They proposed that we stay at Parliament House (called CND at the time). The RPF came to investigate the area and we were satisfied. The only thing that mattered to our soldiers was the fact that the place would allow them to defend themselves if they came under attack," says Senator Rutaremara. "They hastily and happily agreed because they knew that we were surrounded."

They were in the middle of Mont Kigali, Camp Kigali, Camp Kanombe, Camp Kami, and Camp GP... - all positions that could be used to shell them.

The battalion and politicians left Mulindi escorted by Unamir's Belgian contingent, in front and back. Soldiers were transported in buses while politicians went in jeeps. It was a long convoy. Wherever they passed, people, even though Government soldiers desperately tried to stop them, stood by the roadside, welcoming and waving at them.

"We also waved at them. They were very happy to see us. There were many people when we entered Kigali; we met a large group of cheering motorists who were waiting for us in Gatsata. We continued along the entire road from Nyabugogo to Kacyiru, but were blocked passing near the ministerial area - they maybe didn't like the idea that government workers would leave offices and come out and watch us too."

Ambush

Eventually, they went through Kimicanga and arrived at Parliament House at around 3.00 pm. They camped in the current Senate Section. Soldiers started digging their bunkers right away. They woke early for morning drills, and politicians who wanted to stretch muscles were free to join them.

The Parliament House was cut into two sections. RPF Inkotanyi occupied the current Senate House and used the gate that faces Gishushu (opposite RDB). The whole of the remaining section was occupied by the Government, with law makers working as usual. The RPF's gate was guarded by Belgian Bluehelmetss and there was a fence separating the 2 sections.

Everything, from food and cooking wood, came from Mulindi. These, RPF Inkotanyi soldiers brought to Parliament House, under the watchful eyes of the heavily-armed Belgians. Government soldiers also checked the trucks which were then rechecked by the Bluehelmets once the team arrived at CND's entrance.

"There was baseless propaganda that we used to pack guns inside the trucks of cooking wood. Anyone can see that that would be impossible. Every soldier was allowed only to carry his Kalashnikov to defend himself," Rutaremara says.

"I remember one evening when the team, coming from Mulindi, arrived at Gatsata, and came under attack. The Belgians ran away in panic and left our team alone; they headed for Byumba, where they spent the night. What our troops did was to take positions into road trenches and start responding to the enemy's fire. The enemy fired from hillside houses and forests."

The team that came under attack sent radio messages to the remaining soldiers at Parliament House. When the latter arrived at the gate in pickups, Unamir objected, saying they could not go anywhere unless they have authorization.

"Our soldiers told them that there's no way they could sit there while fellow comrades, after being abandoned by Unamir, are being shot at. They went, fought the enemy, and saved the troops from that ambush. Unfortunately, we lost one man in that incident."

The Bluehelmets at the entrance reported to their commander Gen. Romeo Dallaire that RPF Inkotanyi's troops had gone out without authorization. He came in the following morning to ask what had happened. But Senator Rutaremara and Patrick Mazimpaka who met him requested that he investigates the incident first. He did and came back the next day to apologize.

Fall of Habyarimana

On April 6, 1994, one of the soldiers on patrol told us that he had seen something burning in the skyline of Kanombe, and that he had been shot at right immediately afterwards.

"We didn't know what was happening until we got the news from RTLM that the plane carrying President Habyarimana had beenshot down. The enemy started incessantly shelling our building that same night and for several days to come," Rutaremara recalls. "We the politicians and other guests including the President of Red Cross International were shown bunkers that were left by soldiers who went out to take positions near the Ministry of Justice, and Kimihurura roundabout, in order to prevent the enemy from advancing towards the building."

Throughout the country, Interahamwe militias and soldiers immediately started to hunt down politicians from opposition parties. Prime Minister Agathe Uwiringiyimana was already brutally murdered. RPF politicians urged Unamir, because it was the only force that could go wherever they wanted at anytime, to try and rescue opposition politicians but they refused. Even as the Genocide was taking place, RPF Inkotanyi was not allowed to fight yet.

"Unamir later conceded to our request to fight. We asked them to go and look for the family of Alexis Kanyarengwe, then Chairman of RPF Inkotanyi. We asked them to also go and look for Faustin Twagiramungu."

Both were rescued and sheltered at National Amahoro Stadium among thousands of refugees who were gathered there. The stadium was guarded by Unamir's Bangladeshi contingent. Interahamwe and Presidential Guards later attacked the stadium, disarmed and confiscated everything from Unamir. Hearing the news, RPF soldiers attacked the killers and rescued many people (including Twagiramungu and the family of Kanyarengwe). They stayed in the newly-expanded strongholds that went as far as Chez Lando.

"Gen. Dallaire complained that we had sent troops to the stadium without his permission. We replied that his troops had laid down their arms and left us no choice. We could not allow people to be butchered while we were there to rescue them. That was the first time our troops were sent in broad light," Rutaremara says.

After a few days, shelling on the building intensified. It was hit almost every second. That's when a special battalion - that was tasked to move forward and meet the initial 600-men battalion - came from Mulindi for reinforcement. They came all the way crushing the enemy, carrying their casualties, and moving forward. They didn't bother following the fleeing, terror-stricken enemy. They were tasked to advance until they connected with the battalion at Parliament House.

There were thousands of refugees harbored in the cave of the Parliament House. They stayed there during the day and soldiers had to go out every night to find them what to eat.

"The battalion reached us at around 5.00 pm; they were very tired and had many casualties. They stayed at Parliament House, taking care of the wounded, protecting refugees and looking for food. The initial battalion is the one that went out to gain more strongholds until they captured Mount Rebero - a strategic mount that would later play a significant role in the fall of Kigali. That prompted the Government to immediately flee to Gitarama."

RPF politicians and refugees were afterwards evacuated to Byumba via Rebero, while soldiers continued their mission of rescuing people. It was on June 15 that the battalion sent troops to rescue 3,000 people who were in St. Paul Church - located right in the middle of heavily-guarded ruthless genocidaires strongholds in the city center - in one of the audacious operations in the history of the military.

Source:http://allafrica.com/stories/201212270028.html

 

[Fugwe]

this is a one side story, tell us also how many people (hutu) were murdered by Ikhotanyi???? or RPF???

 

[mchambawima1]

this is a one side story, tell us also how many people (hutu) were murdered by Ikhotanyi???? or RPF???

nafikiri inalingana na wale walio kufa kwenye vita ya kagera!!!

 

[MUKAMASIMBA]

nafikiri inalingana na wale walio kufa kwenye vita ya kagera!!!

Wakati mwingine najiuliza hawa watu wanao uliza wahutu walikufa wangapi siwaelewi kwani hawa unao waita wahutu walikua wamepewa mafunzo ya kuwaua watusi na wengi wao walipewa silaha na walikua mstari wambele...sasa unategemea risasi inge mkwepa kwasababu ni muhutu?/

 

[mchambawima1]

Wakati mwingine najiuliza hawa watu wanao uliza wahutu walikufa wangapi siwaelewi kwani hawa unao waita wahutu walikua wamepewa mafunzo ya kuwaua watusi na wengi wao walipewa silaha na walikua mstari wambele...sasa unategemea risasi inge mkwepa kwasababu ni muhutu?/

Yani hata wasikupe tabu! Ukweli wanaujuwa lakini wanaprefer kuupotosha, ushaona vita gani isiyo na madhala? dawa yao ni kuwapa majibu ya mkato yanayoweza kuwasaidia kufukiri, kubwa lao jMali ambalo lenye picha yote kichwani hii news imemtonesha kidonda yuko anasikilizia maumivu kwa mbali mpaka hivi anafikiria pakuanzia kuponda lakini kashindwa na bado! January 2015 tukiona MONUSLESS, DRC na FDLR wanaleta usanii basi kama kawaida yetu hatutasubili ruhusa kutoka kwa wahuni wowote.

 

[Commanche]

Mchambawima thanks chief. Tunashukuru sana kwa article iliyoja weledi na nondoz za kutosha kueleza kwa uwiano kilichotokea katika historia ya karibuni ya Rwanda.

 

[MUKAMASIMBA]

Yani hata wasikupe tabu! Ukweli wanaujuwa lakini wanaprefer kuupotosha, ushaona vita gani isiyo na madhala? dawa yao ni kuwapa majibu ya mkato yanayoweza kuwasaidia kufukiri, kubwa lao jMali ambalo lenye picha yote kichwani hii news imemtonesha kidonda yuko anasikilizia maumivu kwa mbali mpaka hivi anafikiria pakuanzia kuponda lakini kashindwa na bado! January 2015 tukiona MONUSLESS, DRC na FDLR wanaleta usanii basi kama kawaida yetu hatutasubili ruhusa kutoka kwa wahuni wowote.

Huyu JMALI(interahamwe) anategemea msaada wa SADC ahahahaha...SADC wanaujua mziki wa RDF hawawezi hata chembe kujiingiza katika vita ya interahamwe...na ndio maana jan 2015...kitaeleweka kuhusu akina jmali.

 

[jMali]

inkotanyi maana yake halisi/original ni askari wa mfalme wa kitutsi King Rwabugili aliyetawala karne ya 19, waliokuwa wanatumika kuwapiga wahutu into submission. Kwenye akili ya mhutu yoyote neno inkotanyi ni neno baya sana kihistoria, Kagame deliberately akaamua kutumia the same word kwa jeshi lake la watutsi la RPA, ambao:

1. Most of them like himself came from royal tutsis families that ran into exile in 1958-59. kagame's Aunt was QUEEN Rosalie...So calling themselves that horrible name was like saying "wafalme wenu tunarudi kuwatawala"

2. RPA since 1990 walikuwa wanafanya guerilla attacks against Hutus, acting the same just like the original Inkotanyi did back in 19th century na kuwezesha utawala wa mabavu wa watutsi over the Hutu for all those years. So what were Hutus supposed to think?

3. Baada ya wahutu kukubali power-sharing kwa kulazimishwa.... na ndege ya rais wao ikatunguliwa.....So any young interahamwe Hutu surely thought: "sisi wahutu ni majority, tumepigwa na jeshi la watutsi since 1990 mpaka 1994, tumelazimishwa power-sharing with minority 15% of the population tumekubali, na sasa rais wetu katunguliwa na wanaofanya yote hawa ni jeshi la watutsi wanaojiita Inkotanyi of all names? the same name of tutsis waliotutawala kikoloni for 400 years!" Since wahutu raia hawana bunduki za kupambana na RPA, wao wakaamua kumalizia hasira zao kwa "inkotanyi" wanaowaweza ambao ni majirani zao, ndugu zao watutsi wa kawaida kwa mapanga na visu. (genocide against tutsis).

Neno lingine Inyenzi (Mende) lilitungwa na muasi wa kitutsi Aloys ngurumbe ambaye alikuwa anapigana na serikali ya mapinduzi ya wahutu toka miaka ya 1960's. Watutsi walijiita inyenzi kwa kujifananisha na mende ambao wanapiga usiku na mchana hawaonekani. RPA nao pia walianza kujiita Inyenzi na kutishia wahutu kupitia radio yao, Radio Muhabura operating from Uganda kuwa "Inyenzi leo tunakuja kijiji fulani " etc, causing terror na displacement ya wahutu for those 4 years. Matokeo yake hata watutsi walio ndani ya Rwanda wakaanza kutaniwa kuwa nao ni Inyenzi, mwaka 1994 utani ukageuka chuki!
Aloys Ngurumbe aliyelianzisha hili neno Inyenzi alikamatwa miaka ya 80 na kuhukumiwa jela, mwaka 1994 Kagame (Inyenzi/Inkotanyi) mwenzie akamuachia huru!!!

Only extremist-Tutsis ndio hawataona kuwa ingawa there is no justification for genocide regardless ya nani kapanga, but surely it was Kagame that calculated it by making calculated provocations like these. Not to mention the FACT that the leader of the interahamwe was a TUTSI robert Kajuga who pretended to be a Hutu (sorta like making sure genocide against his people really happens so kagame can claim to "stop it" ?) Inkotanyi na Inyenzi may be heroes to any extremist-tutsi, but are they heroes to Hutus and twa as well? Hivi kuna mtanzania yoyote atayekubali waarabu wa zanzibar wenye damu ya sultani waanze kuadhimisha "heroic" slave traders names leo hii?

cc: Fugwe JustDoItNow Kibona Ngongo Ben Saanane

 

[mchambawima1]

jMali

Kama nilijuwa yani, hii post niliileta kwa makusudi ilinikutoneshe kidonda chako… na ndio maana imekuchukua siku mbili kusudi ujibu, kilichobakiawatanzania walio kupa hifadhi ndio watajijuwa…LOL!
Kila siku nilikuwa nasema wewe ni interahamwe inayo uzaukabila kwa kupitia "jamii forums" unajifanya kubisha, haya sasa hebu nikuulizesiku nchi kama Tanzania ikipigana nan chi nyingine, utawashauri kuuwa raia wotewenye asili ya adui yao? Kwa vyovyote jibu lako ni ndio! Na hicho ndichokinachokutofautisha na binadamu wengine .
Itafika wakati mwenyewe utajichimbia kabuli, muuwaji mkubwawewe.

 

[Kibona]

jMali

Mkuu Jmali katika post yako kuna jambo nakubaliana na kuna jambo sikubaliani. Mie ni mmoja wa watu ambao nakubali kwa asilimia 100 kuwa mwaka 1994 kulitokea genocide dhidi ya watutsi kwasababu mwaka huo nilifuatilia kwa kina kilichokuwa kinaendelea Rwanda. Lakini pia mie ni mmoja wa watu ninaeamini kuwa Kagame ndiye aliyeprovoke genocide purposely na alitumia strategy ya ukabila ili aweze kupata support ya watutsi na ndio maana RPF imeua wahutu wengi kuliko genocide ilivyoua watutsi. Kwahiyo kuna facts ambazo umeandika kuhusu Kagame nakubaliana nazo hasa zile zinazoonesha jinsi alivyoprovoke na alivyoexploit genocide, ila sikubaliani kuwa "There is no justification for genocide" mie nadhani genocide haina mjadala ilitokea mchana kweupe. Dawa ya Rwanda ni kuwa na demokrasia kamili na ambayo inaweza kuanza kujengwa baada ya Kagame kuondoka madarakani maana hawezi kukubali demokrasia ichukue mkondo wake maana anajua madhambi aliyotenda.

 

[Talkandtalk]

jMali
Hivi unajuwa kuna watu wanakufuatilia wanaojua vyema histolia ya Rwanda?

Nime copy hii statement kutoka kwako,

inkotanyi maana yake halisi/original ni askari wa mfalme wa kitutsi King Rwabugili aliyetawala karne ya 19, waliokuwa wanatumika kuwapiga wahutu into submission. Kwenye akili ya mhutu yoyote neno inkotanyi ni neno baya sana kihistoria, Kagame deliberately akaamua kutumia the same word kwa jeshi lake la watutsi la RPF:

Mfalme alikuwa mfalme wa wa Nyarwanda wote, it is true alikuwa akitoka kabila moja, just as it was from any other places in Africa, ukiuliza kina mwami Ntale etc wote walikuwa kabila moja ila wakirepresent makabila mengi;
Ni kwa sababu hii hata jina la majeshi ya Habyarimana, INZIRABWOBA maana yake halisi/original ni askali wa mfalme wa kitutsi....:
A king was an identity for all Rwandans ndio maana hata Habyarimana alichagua jina hili.
Inkotanyi,Inzirabwoba,etc all yalikuwa majina ya vikosi vya kijeshi vya mfalme:

 

[mchambawima1]

Mkuu Jmali katika post yako kuna jambo nakubaliana na kuna jambo sikubaliani. Mie ni mmoja wa watu ambao nakubali kwa asilimia 100 kuwa mwaka 1994 kulitokea genocide dhidi ya watutsi kwasababu mwaka huo nilifuatilia kwa kina kilichokuwa kinaendelea Rwanda. Lakini pia mie ni mmoja wa watu ninaeamini kuwa Kagame ndiye aliyeprovoke genocide purposely na alitumia strategy ya ukabila ili aweze kupata support ya watutsi na ndio maana RPF imeua wahutu wengi kuliko genocide ilivyoua watutsi. Kwahiyo kuna facts ambazo umeandika kuhusu Kagame nakubaliana nazo hasa zile zinazoonesha jinsi alivyoprovoke na alivyoexploit genocide, ila sikubaliani kuwa "There is no justification for genocide" mie nadhani genocide haina mjadala ilitokea mchana kweupe. Dawa ya Rwanda ni kuwa na demokrasia kamili na ambayo inaweza kuanza kujengwa baada ya Kagame kuondoka madarakani maana hawezi kukubali demokrasia ichukue mkondo wake maana anajua madhambi aliyotenda.

Aisee wewe yani bora hata alichofanya jMali yeye kaamua kulang’ombe na mkia wake lakini wewe unachotaka kufanya ni sawa na kuruka mkojo nakukanyaga kinyesi!!!
Wewe unasema etiKagame ndio ka provoke Genocide halafu kabla hujaenda mbali eti” there is nojustification for Genocide” sasa mtuakuelewe vipi? Au ndio tuseme unaogopakumpa makavu kwa sumu alizotema kwenye maandishi yake? Huyo bwana ni muuaji nasio mpaka upelekwe chuo ndio umjuwe ni mtu wa aina gani! Hao ni wauwaji wakimbali, mungu haepushe mbali lakini propaganda zake zikifanikiwa kuwakosanishana Rwanda mtamuona atakapo kimbilia, nawaonea huruma sana watanzania watakaohisiwa ututsi… wakati wengine watakuwa frontline yeye mtamuona kwenye majumbaya watu na mapanga… mi nnawaambia mnafikiri naleta uzushi, ona sasa yeyemwenyewe anajianika itikadi zake, hata wakati tulienda kuwasaidia wacongomankukomboa nchi yao, wao ndio kwanza walikuwa busy kuchinja wanyamurenge, ndio waliowafanya wachunga ngómbe wa watukukamata siraha duh mbona mnashida, huku Rwanda tunabahati kajikimbizamwenyewe.
hiyo mijadala yenu ya pumba kwa bahati sana mnaifanyia huko huko nje ya Rwanda...kila la kheri.

 

[Kibona]

Aisee wewe yani bora hata alichofanya jMali yeye kaamua kulang'ombe na mkia wake lakini wewe unachotaka kufanya ni sawa na kuruka mkojo nakukanyaga kinyesi!!!
Wewe unasema etiKagame ndio ka provoke Genocide halafu kabla hujaenda mbali eti" there is nojustification for Genocide" sasa mtuakuelewe vipi?Au ndio tuseme unaogopakumpa makavu kwa sumu alizotema kwenye maandishi yake? Huyo bwana ni muuaji nasio mpaka upelekwe chuo ndio umjuwe ni mtu wa aina gani! Hao ni wauwaji wakimbali, mungu haepushe mbali lakini propaganda zake zikifanikiwa kuwakosanishana Rwanda mtamuona atakapo kimbilia, nawaonea huruma sana watanzania watakaohisiwa ututsi… wakati wengine watakuwa frontline yeye mtamuona kwenye majumbaya watu na mapanga… mi nnawaambia mnafikiri naleta uzushi, ona sasa yeyemwenyewe anajianika itikadi zake, hata wakati tulienda kuwasaidia wacongomankukomboa nchi yao, wao ndio kwanza walikuwa busy kuchinja wanyamurenge, ndio waliowafanya wachunga ngómbe wa watukukamata siraha duh mbona mnashida, huku Rwanda tunabahati kajikimbizamwenyewe.
hiyo mijadala yenu ya pumba kwa bahati sana mnaifanyia huko huko nje ya Rwanda...kila la kheri.

Anyway mie sijui uhusiano wako na Jmali lakini naongea ninachokiamini kuwa genocide dhidi ya watutsi imetokea, na mauaji ya wahutu wasio na hatia pia yametokea, sasa wanaokubali kuwa genocide ilitokea tunakubaliana kuwa baadhi ya wahutu walioshiriki kushughulikiwa na pia kwasababu tunaamini pia kuwa wahutu wasio na hatia waliuawa basi tunaona kuwa Kagame anatakiwa kuwajibika maana ndio kiongozi wa RPF. Ila tatizo ni kuwa humu jamvini tuna mitazamo tofauti hasa ktk status ya Rwanda kama Taifa, wakati baadhi ya watu wanadhani kuwa utawala wa Rwanda wa sasa hauna hata chembe ya makosa na hivyo kila mpinzani ni Tatizo, kuna wanaoona kama vile utawala wa Rwanda ni wa jamii fulani tu. Binafsi sitaki kuwa mateka wa propaganda za RPF wala FDLR naongea ninachokiamini.

 

[jMali]

Hivi unajuwa kuna watu wanakufuatilia wanaojua vyema histolia ya Rwanda?

Nime copy hii statement kutoka kwako,

inkotanyi maana yake halisi/original ni askari wa mfalme wa kitutsi King Rwabugili aliyetawala karne ya 19, waliokuwa wanatumika kuwapiga wahutu into submission. Kwenye akili ya mhutu yoyote neno inkotanyi ni neno baya sana kihistoria, Kagame deliberately akaamua kutumia the same word kwa jeshi lake la watutsi la RPF:

Mfalme alikuwa mfalme wa wa Nyarwanda wote, it is true alikuwa akitoka kabila moja, just as it was from any other places in Africa, ukiuliza kina mwami Ntale etc wote walikuwa kabila moja ila wakirepresent makabila mengi;
Ni kwa sababu hii hata jina la majeshi ya Habyarimana, INZIRABWOBA maana yake halisi/original ni askali wa mfalme wa kitutsi....:
A king was an identity for all Rwandans ndio maana hata Habyarimana alichagua jina hili.
Inkotanyi,Inzirabwoba,etc all yalikuwa majina ya vikosi vya kijeshi vya mfalme:

mention JUST ONE HUTU KING! Ufalme ulikuwa ni PRESERVE YA WATUTSI na sio kabila lingine lolote. Inkotanyi walikuwa ni askari wa Rwabugiri ambao kazi yao ni kuzima rebellion ya the majority (the hutu). Ndio maana hata wewe unaleta habari za Habyarimana, Habyarimana was not a KING, he was a president! kama alichagua jina la kitutsi that shows how tolerant he was!

 

[jMali]

Mkuu Jmali katika post yako kuna jambo nakubaliana na kuna jambo sikubaliani. Mie ni mmoja wa watu ambao nakubali kwa asilimia 100 kuwa mwaka 1994 kulitokea genocide dhidi ya watutsi kwasababu mwaka huo nilifuatilia kwa kina kilichokuwa kinaendelea Rwanda. Lakini pia mie ni mmoja wa watu ninaeamini kuwa Kagame ndiye aliyeprovoke genocide purposely na alitumia strategy ya ukabila ili aweze kupata support ya watutsi na ndio maana RPF imeua wahutu wengi kuliko genocide ilivyoua watutsi. Kwahiyo kuna facts ambazo umeandika kuhusu Kagame nakubaliana nazo hasa zile zinazoonesha jinsi alivyoprovoke na alivyoexploit genocide,ila sikubalia ni kuwa "There is no justification for genocide" mie nadhani genocide haina mjadala ilitokea mchana kweupe. Dawa ya Rwanda ni kuwa na demokrasia kamili na ambayo inaweza kuanza kujengwa baada ya Kagame kuondoka madarakani maana hawezi kukubali demokrasia ichukue mkondo wake maana anajua madhambi aliyotenda.

Mkuu ni nadhani una tatizo kidogo na english au labda ni mimi ndie nimekosea. unaposema hukubaliani na statement yangu kuwa "there is no justification for genocide" unamaanisha nini? Kauli yangu hiyo tafsiri yake kwa kiswahili cha haraka haraka ni : "hakuna kisingizio chochote cha kufanya mauaji ya kimbari". Maana yake ni kuwa "hata kama kagame ndie aliyepanga bado hakukuwa na uhalali wowote wa wahutu (specifically interahamwe) kufanya mauaji ya kimbari". Tuko pamoja hapo, kuwa mauaji ya kimbari dhidi ya watutsi yalitokea na yalifanywa na wahutu ingawa kagame ndie aliyeprovoke.

 

[Kibona]

Mkuu ni nadhani una tatizo kidogo na english au labda ni mimi ndie nimekosea. unaposema hukubaliani na statement yangu kuwa "there is no justification for genocide" unamaanisha nini? Kauli yangu hiyo tafsiri yake kwa kiswahili cha haraka haraka ni : "hakuna kisingizio chochote cha kufanya mauaji ya kimbari". Maana yake ni kuwa "hata kama kagame ndie aliyepanga bado hakukuwa na uhalali wowote wa wahutu (specifically interahamwe) kufanya mauaji ya kimbari". Tuko pamoja hapo, kuwa mauaji ya kimbari dhidi ya watutsi yalitokea na yalifanywa na wahutu ingawa kagame ndie aliyeprovoke.

Sasa nimekupata na nimekuelewa, awali nilidhani unamaanisha kuwa genocide haikuwepo kabisa.

 

[Kibona]

Huyu JMALI(interahamwe) anategemea msaada wa SADC ahahahaha...SADC wanaujua mziki wa RDF hawawezi hata chembe kujiingiza katika vita ya interahamwe...na ndio maana jan 2015...kitaeleweka kuhusu akina jmali.

Mie bado naiweka RDF ktk status ya vikundi, mtu mwenye ufahamu hawezi kulinganisha RDF na JWTZ achilia mbali SADC. Huu ni ushabiki tu ambao hauwezi kuonesha uhalisia, yaani kuweza kuidistabilize DRC watu mmevimba kichwa bila kujua DRC haijawahi kuwa na jeshi la kueleweka.

 

[ROBERT MICHAEL]

Mie bado naiweka RDF ktk status ya vikundi, mtu mwenye ufahamu hawezi kulinganisha RDF na JWTZ achilia mbali SADC. Huu ni ushabiki tu ambao hauwezi kuonesha uhalisia, yaani kuweza kuidistabilize DRC watu mmevimba kichwa bila kujua DRC haijawahi kuwa na jeshi la kueleweka.

Achana naye huyo ameshaathirika na ukabila wao mpaka nyeusi anaona nyekundu.Kikundi cha mgambo analinganisha na jeshi.

 

[JustDoItNow]

Kama nilijuwa yani, hii post niliileta kwa makusudi ilinikutoneshe kidonda chako… na ndio maana imekuchukua siku mbili kusudi ujibu, kilichobakiawatanzania walio kupa hifadhi ndio watajijuwa…LOL!
Kila siku nilikuwa nasema wewe ni interahamwe inayo uzaukabila kwa kupitia "jamii forums" unajifanya kubisha, haya sasa hebu nikuulizesiku nchi kama Tanzania ikipigana nan chi nyingine, utawashauri kuuwa raia wotewenye asili ya adui yao? Kwa vyovyote jibu lako ni ndio! Na hicho ndichokinachokutofautisha na binadamu wengine .
Itafika wakati mwenyewe utajichimbia kabuli, muuwaji mkubwawewe.

Mzee wa sumu sasa hapo umeongea nini? ebu ongea kiswahili. inawezekana unaongea ki rwanda......LOL
Hoja yako ni nini kwa hiyo post? Mwalimu wako alipata shida sana.

 

[JustDoItNow]

Achana naye huyo ameshaathirika na ukabila wao mpaka nyeusi anaona nyekundu.Kikundi cha mgambo analinganisha na jeshi.

Ahahahhaha, yaani ukisikia wanajitutumua balaaa. Hicho kweli ni kikundi cha mgambo