The Atheists Paradox

[Ishmael]

do you mean that without God we could have morality today?

Read the last 6 words of my post.

 

[descarte]

Read the last 6 words of my post.

Your claim is begging the question

 

[Free ideas]

You are wrong young man. God existed even before the Bible and Quran. Tatizo ni wewe mwenye akili tegemezi katika kufikiria huku ukidhania kuwa unafahamu vyote.

Unaweza nionyesha na au niambia, kwanini hakuna Mungu bila ya kutumia hivyo vitabu ulivyo sema, and I will show you there is God bila ya Biblia.

Siki utakayo gundua kuwa Maji hayapimwi kwa Metal Detector, basi utakuwa umetoka kwenye box la akina Free ideas and introvert

Let me see your intelligence.

Bado mpaka sasa Ishmael hujaweza kuleta ushahidi kwamba mungu yupo.

 

[descarte]

Bado mpaka sasa Ishmael hujaweza kuleta ushahidi kwamba mungu yupo.

He cannot tell us which knowledge is using to affirm God existence apart from his religious dogmas.

 

[Ishmael]

Bado mpaka sasa Ishmael hujaweza kuleta ushahidi kwamba mungu yupo.

My moral argument is enough for you, to date you have not refuted any of my arguments, in contrast, deny without evidence.

Another evidence is this one. Something cannot come from nothing, so Something must self-exist, in contrast, self-existence is necessary. Wherefore, Universe began. Universe is not self-existent, it is scientifically proved. Universe requires a causally antecedent agency to explain it's existence. God does not – no beginning. Absolute beginning requires a cause. Cause of Physical Universe cannot be Physical. Must be non-physical, space-less, timeless and willful to cause Physical Universe from Physical Nothingness.

Now, dispute that if you can.

 

[Ishmael]

He cannot tell us which knowledge is using to affirm God existence apart from his religious dogmas.

Your assumption that only Empirical science is evidence is silly and FALSE. That is your naive error not mine. Most of the thinking world knows better.

You have been provided massive evidence. You ignore it or comprehended not.
Simple question to you and your fellow non theists: Why does something exist rather than nothing? Something cannot come from nothing, so Something must self-exist. Self-existence is necessary. Universe began. Universe is not self-existent. Universe requires a causally antecedent agency to explain it's existence. God does not – no beginning.

 

[Ishmael]

Your claim is begging the question

Shed the verificationism and open your mind. Unless you can demonstrate that God has no morally sufficient reasons to permit suffering and free-willed evil, then you have no evidence whatsoever.

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[descarte]

Your assumption that only Empirical science is evidence is silly and FALSE. That is your naive error not mine. Most of the thinking world knows better.

You have been provided massive evidence. You ignore it or comprehended not.
Simple question to you and your fellow non theists: Why does something exist rather than nothing? Something cannot come from nothing, so Something must self-exist. Self-existence is necessary. Universe began. Universe is not self-existent. Universe requires a causally antecedent agency to explain it’s existence. God does not – no beginning.

You are using the argument of causality to justify your claim but david hume and kant rejectef that claim

 

[descarte]

Shed the verificationism and open your mind. Unless you can demonstrate that God has no morally sufficient reasons to permit suffering and free-willed evil, then you have no evidence whatsoever.

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It is begging the

 

[Ishmael]

It is begging the

I know that you can not support your notions. You are not the first one. Dismissals are not refutations, inter-alia, you lack any refutations, simultaneously you lack any evidence or arguments to justify your blind non theist faith.
I understand. Non theism is indefensible in reason.

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[Ishmael]

You are using the argument of causality to justify your claim but david hume and kant rejectef that claim

You hit the wall, were exposed and refuted.
Now, you offer meaningless pictures to obfuscate your defeat on the intellectual merits. You are too lazy and dishonest to engage and think.

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[Free ideas]

My moral argument is enough for you, to date you have not refuted any of my arguments, in contrast, deny without evidence.

Another evidence is this one. Something cannot come from nothing, so Something must self-exist, in contrast, self-existence is necessary. Wherefore, Universe began. Universe is not self-existent, it is scientifically proved. Universe requires a causally antecedent agency to explain it’s existence. God does not – no beginning. Absolute beginning requires a cause. Cause of Physical Universe cannot be Physical. Must be non-physical, space-less, timeless and willful to cause Physical Universe from Physical Nothingness.

Now, dispute that if you can.

Something can not come from nothing ?,only god can come from nothing?,huu sio upendeleo ?,kwa nn only god?hizo sifa zote za mungu (kama yupo)nani kakwambia ?,umetumia njia gani kuzijua?

 

[Ishmael]

Something can not come from nothing ?,only god can come from nothing?,huu sio upendeleo ?,kwa nn only god?hizo sifa zote za mungu (kama yupo)nani kakwambia ?,umetumia njia gani kuzijua?

God doesn't begin. The Universe began,

If you are too lame to get the crystal clear logic, that's your fault - not mine. In fact self-existence without beginning is rationally NECESSARY. Something must be prime. Something beginning from nothing is irrational.

You have no case.

 

[Ishmael]

Your claim is begging the question

The Creator has no beginning. No Creator is required.
The Universe began to exist. A Creator is required.

You still have no argument.

 

[descarte]

The Creator has no beginning. No Creator is required.
The Universe began to exist. A Creator is required.

You still have no argument.

Anyway it is illegitimate to move from posterior to a priori young man

 

[Free ideas]

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Thax that you have agreed that the Universal began not created as you used to believe before.

 

[Ishmael]

The Creator has no beginning. No Creator is required.
The Universe began to exist. A Creator is required.

You still have no argument.

Thax that you have agreed that the Universal began not created as you used to believe before.

The Universe coming from nothing and by nothing (non theism) is absurd.

 

[Ishmael]

Anyway it is illegitimate to move from posterior to a priori young man

So wait by your new logic, matter could have ALWAYS existed? Amazing.

 

[descarte]

So wait by your new logic, matter could have ALWAYS existed? Amazing.

The only problem of you, you are claiming for something you cannot explain how. It seems you just use faith only

 

[Ishmael]

The only problem of you, you are claiming for something you cannot explain how. It seems you just use faith only

God has no Beginning. Only that which begins to exist requires a cause. In fact, logical necessity DEMANDS that something doesn't have a beginning,, but is causally prime over all things that begin to exist.

Until you can give an example of an actual logical error, stop posturing.