TB Joshua Building: IS it a controlled demolition Or Structural failure?

[vasco da gamma]

Guyz i know some of you, May be tired to read anything from TB Joshua. Without annoying anyone, i like to present to you some staffs regarding engineering.

Today, i watched Emanuel TV: coincidentally i saw the difference between, the controlled demolition and the structural failures. I almost became convinced that; the collapsed of TB Joshua building is not simply a structural failures, as i thought it should.
I've to admit that, I personally never saw any collapse building before today, Though i heard some news reporting about the collapsed Buildings in the various part of the world.

The TB Joshua footage has convinced me that, The SCOAN Building is simply not a result of structural failures.
REASONS:
The structural failure; some parts of the building "MUST" remain intact(Without breakage), mean while the "Controlled demolition" leave no wall stands - only rubble remains, Like wise the TB JOSHUA Building left no Wall intact. hence i may say it is controlled demolition and not a result from shoddy construction.

Hope there are more experts who can tell the difference between these 2 forms of "buildings collapse".

1.The picture below (Bangladesh Collapse) resulting from substandard construction, hence it is "structural failure".

2. Controlled demolition (below)

TB Joshua Building: No part of the wall remained intact.

BBC News - TB Joshua Lagos church collapse: Many South Africans dead
Building collapse bodies in limbo | eNCA

CC Eiyer, Kichwa ni Mtu, Mkuu wa chuo, Ishmael, Bulldog, 1st AID et al

 

[Ishmael]

This is obvious. It is only few people who are malice toward TB Joshua are acting wanton disregard in the reality of evil to the building.

There are 130 People died in Makkah and none of them (is) saying a word. The world hates good people.

 

[Mkuu wa chuo]

CYBERTEQ hebu njoo huku kipindi kile cha kuanguka jengo uliuvaa uhusika wa u engineer ukatuambia jengo halina ubora, kwa hiyo kumbe imeanza kugundulika sio structural failure ningependa kuona maoni yako EMT njoo huku nisikie sound zako, je ni controlled demolition au Structural failure!?

Nakala: Eiyer

 

[Danpol]

This is obvious. It is only few people who are malice toward TB Joshua are acting wanton disregard in the reality of evil to the building.

There are 130 People died in Makkah and none of them (is) saying a word. The world hates good people.

Hehehehe umegusa penyewe

 

[MTAZAMO]

Hii ni controlled demolition .......TB Joshua mwenyewe anasema haiwezekani structural failure alafu hadi AC na friji zilizokuwemo kuwa unga kabisa........makosa yanaweza kufanyika kwasababu chenye mikono ya binadamu hakikosi makosa lakini kwa case hii kuna kitu cha ajabu kimefanyika ........muda utaongea .....

 

[Eiyer]

CYBERTEQ hebu njoo huku kipindi kile cha kuanguka jengo uliuvaa uhusika wa u engineer ukatuambia jengo halina ubora, kwa hiyo kumbe imeanza kugundulika sio structural failure ningependa kuona maoni yako EMT njoo huku nisikie sound zako, je ni controlled demolition au Structural failure!?

Nakala: Eiyer

Hao jamaa ni wa ajabu sana mkuu ....!!

 

[Otorong'ong'o]

Naangalia hii movie itashia wapi...

 

[Mapi]

Mimi sio engineer ila naona kama kunakitu kwenye maelezo yako machache

 

[kitoromoni]

Mimi sio engineer ila naona kama kunakitu kwenye maelezo yako machache

hata mimi mkuu sio engineer,but nimejaribu kuziangalia clip mbalimbali za duniani kutoka you tube,za controlled demolition na structural failure,naona kuna mkono wa mtu hapa.jengo haliwezi kuanguka kama limeyeyuka.nahisi pengine walitaka kumuangamiza huyu jamaa but walimis calculate.unajua amekuwa mwiba mchungu kwa mataifa ya wenzetu.

1.wakati anatabiri kimbunga ufilipino,nilikuwa namuangalia liv kupitia emmenuel tv.

2.wakati anatabiri mgogoro wa sudani kusini,nilikuwepo runingani live naangalia.

3.wakati anatabiri mgogoro wa urusi nilikuwa namuangalia live

4.wakati anatabiri ndege ya malaysia iliyotunguliwa nilikuwa namuona live.



all these prophesies came to pass.unadhani atakosa maadui?

 

[Kaunga]

Wazushi huwa wanaabika pale ukweli unapokuja kujidhihirisha.

 

[EMT]

CYBERTEQ hebu njoo huku kipindi kile cha kuanguka jengo uliuvaa uhusika wa u engineer ukatuambia jengo halina ubora, kwa hiyo kumbe imeanza kugundulika sio structural failure ningependa kuona maoni yako EMT njoo huku nisikie sound zako, je ni controlled demolition au Structural failure!?

Nakala: Eiyer

So, kwanini jengo lilianguka? Uchunguzi umeshakamilika?

 

[Mdoe Snr]

controlled demolition.
There is no doubt about it.

 

[Eiyer]

So, kwanini jengo lilianguka? Uchunguzi umeshakamilika?

Inamaana hujasoma mada,au?

 

[CYBERTEQ]

Guyz i know some of you, May be tired to read anything from TB Joshua. Without annoying anyone, i like to present to you some staffs regarding engineering.

Today, i watched Emanuel TV: coincidentally i saw the difference between, the controlled demolition and the structural failures. I almost became convinced that; the collapsed of TB Joshua building is not simply a structural failures, as i thought it should. I've to admit that, I personally never saw any collapse building before today, Though i heard some news reporting about the collapsed Buildings in the various part of the world.

The TB Joshua footage has convinced me that, The SCOAN Building is simply not a result of structural failures.
REASONS:
The structural failure; some parts of the building "MUST" remain intact(Without breakage), mean while the "Controlled demolition" leave no wall stands - only rubble remains, Like wise the TB JOSHUA Building left no Wall intact. hence i may say it is controlled demolition and not a result from shoddy construction.

Hope there are more experts who can tell the difference between these 2 forms of "buildings collapse".

1.The picture below (Bangladesh Collapse) resulting from substandard construction, hence it is "structural failure".

2. Controlled demolition (below)

TB Joshua Building: No part of the wall remained intact.

BBC News - TB Joshua Lagos church collapse: Many South Africans dead
Building collapse bodies in limbo | eNCA

CC Eiyer, Kichwa ni Mtu, Mkuu wa chuo, Ishmael, Bulldog, 1st AID et al

CYBERTEQ hebu njoo huku kipindi kile cha kuanguka jengo uliuvaa uhusika wa u engineer ukatuambia jengo halina ubora, kwa hiyo kumbe imeanza kugundulika sio structural failure ningependa kuona maoni yako EMT njoo huku nisikie sound zako, je ni controlled demolition au Structural failure!?

Nakala: Eiyer

Hahahahaaa, kazi kweli jamani, hivi nyie wenzetu mnaishi dunia gani?!! Huko mnakoishi hakuna waliopitapita madarasani jamani wakawashushia kidogo "twisheni" za fizikia japo kuwapa mwanga, mbona sisi tunaishi mashambani kabisa huku na tumeishia darasa la saba lakini watoto wa jirani zetu waliofika japo ngazi ya shahada wakitabikia uinjiania tukiwaomba kutufumbua macho hawana kinyongo?!! Mambo mengine hayachanganyiki na imani, wala hayapaswi kujadiliwa kishabiki, haya huyu "injinia" amekuja na uzi kabisaa, anaadmit hajawahi kuona jengo lolote lililoporomoka, lakini ana UHAKIKA hilo la tb joshua aliloona kwenye tv halikuporomoka lenyewe limeporomoshwa, kwa sababu tu limeshuka lote bila kubaki kitu!!!!!!!...seriously?!!!! Niliposoma post ya Mkuu wa chuo (kitakuwa chuo cha wapiga ramli na waaguzi) ambayo nimekuwa mentioned nikajua yap, sasa naona kuna mtaalam amekuja akiwa full na blue prints za jengo lote na ukokotozi kamilifu wa nini kilitokea, matokeo yake nakutana na muafaka aliofikia "expert" ambaye hajawahi kuona jengo likiwa limeporomoka, muafaka alioupata kwa kuspeculate akiwa amelala chumbani kwake.....thats some serious dumbassery, you need a higher degree of insanity kujaribu kushabikia kitu kama hiko!

Mimi siyo injinia, lakini akili ya kawaida tu ya darasa langu la nne la zamani inaniambia kuwa aina ya mabaki (ruble) inategemea na hiyo structural feilure ilitokea wapi katika nguzo za jengo, ikitokea nguzo ikashindwa kuhimili mzigo, na weakest point yake ikawa chini kabisa na ikashindwa kuhimili uzito obviously itagive na kusababisha nguzo zingine pia zishindwe kuhimili kwa sababu mgawanyo wa mzigo unapeleka uzito kwenye nguzo chache. Jengo likianza kuishiwa nguvu na kuporomoka toka chini basi uzito wote wa juu utabwagwa chini na kuangukia kila kilichopo chini, ndiyo maana unakuta kifusi tu bila kuta za kubaki. Hata katika ubomozi pangilifu wanachofanya ni kuzinyang'anya nguvu nguzo za chini, wala hawahangaiki na za juu, labsa kama jengo ni refu sana.

Nisiseme mengi saaana, lakini wataalamu wa mambo hayo kama wanapitapita humu wanaweza kutusaidia. Hebu tazama jengo hili lililoporomoka miaka michache iliyopita pale Indhira Ghandi/Market, lote lilimalizika kabisaaa, hakuna nguzo iliyobaki wima, vipi...nalo boko haramu walishusha mabomu?!!!




Leo sababu za kuporomoka kwa jengo zinatafutwa kwa kupiga ramuli?!! uwezo wa binadamu kufikiri sijui umetiwa giza na kitu gani!!...AIBU HII.

 

[vasco da gamma]

Mimi siyo injinia, lakini akili ya kawaida tu ya darasa langu la nne la zamani inaniambia kuwa aina ya mabaki (ruble) inategemea na hiyo structural feilure ilitokea wapi katika nguzo za jengo, ikitokea nguzo ikashindwa kuhimili mzigo, na weakest point yake ikawa chini kabisa na ikashindwa kuhimili uzito obviously itagive na kusababisha nguzo zingine pia zishindwe kuhimili kwa sababu mgawanyo wa mzigo unapeleka uzito kwenye nguzo chache. Jengo likianza kuishiwa nguvu na kuporomoka toka chini basi uzito wote wa juu utabwagwa chini na kuangukia kila kilichopo chini, ndiyo maana unakuta kifusi tu bila kuta za kubaki. Hata katika ubomozi pangilifu wanachofanya ni kuzinyang'anya nguvu nguzo za chini, wala hawahangaiki na za juu, labsa kama jengo ni refu sana.

Nisiseme mengi saaana, lakini wataalamu wa mambo hayo kama wanapitapita humu wanaweza kutusaidia. Hebu tazama jengo hili lililoporomoka miaka michache iliyopita pale Indhira Ghandi/Market, lote lilimalizika kabisaaa, hakuna nguzo iliyobaki wima, vipi...nalo boko haramu walishusha mabomu?!!!
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Leo sababu za kuporomoka kwa jengo zinatafutwa kwa kupiga ramuli?!! uwezo wa binadamu kufikiri sijui umetiwa giza na kitu gani!!...AIBU HII.

My mind tell me otherwise: This is the pile of collected rubble. There is cleansing which have been done there.... which means the picture was taken after obliteration of the area (Not short time after the building collapse.)

 

[CYBERTEQ]

My mind tell me otherwise: This is the pile of collected rubble. There is cleansing which have been done there.... which means the picture was taken after obliteration of the area (Not short time after the building collapse.)

fanya vyema homework yako.

 

[gumegume]

Biashara yote ya TB Joshua imekufa kama ya Babu wa Loliondo. PERIOD!!!! Kazi ya kuifufua tena biashara ya TB Joshua ni ngumu mno, ni afadhali kazi ya kujaza maji kwenye gunia! Cheap propaganda kama hii ni too low! HAISAIDII !!!! Jipangeni tu na kutafuta biashara nyingine!

 

[Kaunga]

So, kwanini jengo lilianguka? Uchunguzi umeshakamilika?

Report ya uchunguzi rasmi haijakamilika. Lkn hiyo ni uchunguzi wa similar cases.

 

[Echolima]

If from GOD dua zenu ni za kuku.

Biashara yote ya TB Joshua imekufa kama ya Babu wa Loliondo. PERIOD!!!! Kazi ya kuifufua tena biashara ya TB Joshua ni ngumu mno, ni afadhali kazi ya kujaza maji kwenye gunia! Cheap propaganda kama hii ni too low! HAISAIDII !!!! Jipangeni tu na kutafuta biashara nyingine!

 

[1st AID]

vasco da gamma Professionally I am not an engineer, but according to the nature of my responsibilities I am working close to them, so through my experience what I know collapse or failure of the buildings apart from natural disaster, there is two things involved.

Structural integrity and Structural failure this is an aspect of engineering which deals with the ability of a structure to support a designed load, weight, force, etc. So It would be prudent if we wait until engineer’s report analyzing the cause of collapse then we could compare, if its technical errors or implosion