Tanzania's Unusual Immigration Case

[EMT]

Sifting through ethnicity proves challenging as country grapples with illegal immigrants from Rwanda. Christopher Rubamba Matata is 63 years old. He was born in Karagwe, Tanzania, although he is of Rwandan ancestry. Matata considers himself fifth generation Tanzanian and cannot even speak proper Kinyarwanda. His grandfather, his great grandfather and his great, great grandfather were all born in Tanzania. While many Tanzanians of Rwanda ancestry have retained their language and culture, Matata is completely removed from both - his only relationship with Rwanda is his tall and trim features stereotypically associated with the Tutsi.

"All my life I have lived in Tanzania," he told me when I visited the Rwandan border town of Kiyanzi in Kirehe district where there is a transit camp for thousands of Banyarwanda refugees that the Tanzanian government has expelled as illegal immigrants. “All my family and friends live in Tanzania. I don't know anyone in Rwanda - I have no friend or relative in this country. I have never even visited this country. I have only come here as a refugee."

Matata says he has a wife and seven children back in Tanzania whom he has been forced to leave behind. He says government officials found him at a trading center sharing a moment with his friends and asked him to leave immediately for Rwanda. He says he was not even given a chance to go home and say farewell to his family or choose to move with them. Neither was he allowed to pick any of his personal belongings. However, his eldest son was also kicked out of Tanzania and came with his wife.

"The only reason they kicked me out is because of my physical looks," Matata tells me, "They said I look like a Munyarwanda, that was all the crime I committed. But this [Rwanda] is not my country. If I have to stay here, I want to do so as a Tanzanian. I was not a Rwandan resident in Tanzania. I am a Tanzanian now resident in Rwanda. I cannot accept government to take away my citizenship and give me another based on my ancestry."

I went to Kiyanzi to see first-hand the plight of the "Rwandans" being kicked out of Tanzania by the government on allegations that they are illegal migrants. After a day of interviews with many of them, I realised that while the government of President Jakaya Kikwete may genuinely have sought to expel illegal migrants on its territory, the actual policy implementation is as arbitrary as it gets.

There were many Rwandan immigrants in Tanzania who had not registered to become legal residents. Therefore, it is true that many of the people kicked out of Tanzania are actually illegal migrants (in the sense that they had not acquired the requisite residency papers). Yet from the interviews I did with many refugees, the vast majority of them are actually citizens of Tanzania being victimised by central and local authorities for being of Rwandan ancestry.

Matata's experience is shared by many refugees forced to leave their homes, families, and property on allegations of being illegal migrants. Take the example of Vena Kamihanda, a 50-year old born in Rwanda, who migrated to Tanzania in 1984. She got married to a Tanzanian man with whom they begot four children. She was kicked out and left her entire family behind. She says she had a residence permit and voting card both of which were confiscated when she was crossing the border, a sign that policy implementation has more than what the policy says.

The tendency of the local authorities in Tanzania has been to mistake the order to expel "illegal migrants" out of the country for an order to expel many people of Rwandan ancestry. Indeed, local officials appear to have interpreted and implemented it as an order to get rid of all people who speak Kinyarwanda. As a result, the exercise is less discriminating between illegal migrants and genuine citizens and residents. Indeed, many refugees think that the call to expel illegal migrants is a disguised form of a war against people who share Kinyarwanda culture.

Vedasti Nkurunziza, 33, migrated to Tanzania in 2004. He married a Tanzanian and now they have two children together and a pregnancy. They are expecting a child in September. However, he was forced to leave his family. He registered for citizenship because he was eligible as a migrant married to a Tanzanian. But he was kicked out before he could get his papers approved or rejected. Therefore, although he did not have residence papers at the time he was expelled, he was on track to get his citizenship as the law states.

"These do not seem to be mere mistakes by overzealous local officials," a civil society organiser at the camp told me preferring to remain anonymous, "The whole campaign against illegal migrants is a disguised xenophobia against Banyarwanda. Local officials have been spewing anti-Banyarwanda propaganda, which the government of Tanzania seems to have bought line, hook and sinker."

The process of expulsion has not been without violence. All too often, those being expelled are subjected to beatings. Gaudencia Nkarugwiza, 58, was born in Tanzania and married a Tanzanian. Together, they bore eight children. However, all her children and her husband remained behind as she was expelled. When being chased, she claims the soldiers beat her and she showed me bruises on her body. But she does not know anything about Rwanda. She knows no one in Rwanda, has no relatives or even friends. Her entire being and life is in Tanzania and she cannot understand why she is being forced to go to a country she does not know.

Grabbing property

The structure of incentives favours local officials declaring anyone of Kinyarwanda culture an illegal immigrant. This is because when people are being kicked out, many are forced to leave their land, houses, cows and other property behind. The local officials, the refugees told me, take the property.

The civil society activist said Tanzanian local officials supported by their superiors in Dar Es Salam accuse Banyarwanda of causing insecurity, of instigating land conflicts in local communities, and of being behind a spate of armed robberies. Pro-government activists in Dar es Salam have been active on social media accusing "Rwandese" immigrants of similar crimes against the people of Tanzania.

"But how can one ethnic group be accused of all these crimes," the activist asked, "It is clear that they want to expel Rwandans in order to confiscate their property and share it among themselves. The local officials become rich while officials in Dar Es Salam are rewarded with political support for giving their voters free assets."

Agnes Nyirantegeyimana, 60, was born in Karagwe, Tanzania. Her parents were also born in Tanga, Tanzania. So she is a third generation Tanzania. She was married and is now widowed with eight children. However, three of her children were expelled with her while the other five remained behind in Tanzania. She does not know where they are. She told me that she was chased away and she left behind all her property and came to Rwanda with nothing. Like many Tanzanians of Kinyarwanda culture, she does not have friends and family in Rwanda.

"I cannot go back to Tanzania even if they allow me to," she said as tears rolled down her face, "Tanzania is the only country I have known since I was born yet they treated me badly. Rwanda is not my country but so far they have treated me with decency. These are proper human beings. Although I left all my friends and relatives in Tanzania, I don't want to go back to that country."

Shaming Nyerere's legacy Stranded

By 1961, many Rwandans of Tutsi ethnicity had run away from their country and had taken refugee in Uganda, Burundi, Congo and Tanzania. But Tanzania's (then called Tanganyika) founding president, Julius Nyerere, felt that Africans in Africa should not be refugees. Therefore, the 1961 blanket citizenship on the eve of independence was understood as aimed at helping Tutsi refugees in the country feel at home.

Thus, Serestin Ben, 26, born in Ngara is a second generation Tanzanian. His parents migrated to Tanzania in 1959. The father died in 1992. The mother then got married to another man who is a Tanzanian-Rwandan. When Kikwete issued his expulsion order, he says, Tanzanian officials came to his home saying "you resemble Banyarwanda."
"That is the only reason they used to ask me to leave the country of my birth and citizenship," Ben told me, "They said even if only one of your parents was Rwandan, you have to go back to your country. But Rwanda is not my country. They told us that we have 14 days to leave if not they would take stern action. I am told the order to expel us was issued by President Kikwete. I was also told that President Kikwete has problems with President [Paul] Kagame. But for us we are ordinary people and are not part of this quarrel. If Kikwete wants to punish Kagame, he can do it directly rather than punish us."

President Paul Kagame of Rwanda and Kikwete have had a frosty relationship since Kikwete proposed that Kagame talks peace to the Congo-based Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR) militia that Kigali holds responsible for the 1994 genocide in which a million Tutsi died. The recent expulsions appear to be an extension of the rift. Unfortunately, the expulsion of the people who; whether they are considered Rwandans or Tanzanians are East Africans, is a major blow to the spirit of East African Community. The regional block is designed to allow East African to live and work anywhere in the region without encumbrances.

Tanzania's move is a tragedy because it is hurting ordinary people. Ben showed me a wound by an arrow. "These people have developed a phobia for Kinyarwanda speaking persons. Ordinary Tanzanian citizens were confiscating our property and cows," he said. Emmanuel Mugisha, 51, was born in Burundi and went to Tanzania in 1972 to join his auntie there. In 1987 he got citizenship. But then soldiers and local defense confiscated the papers and then claimed that he was not Tanzanian. He has a wife and three children. Two of the children are married and they all live in Tanzania. This means there are many other Tanzanians of Kinyarwanda culture who have not been expelled; at least not yet. But many families have been separated.

Fred Rwabuduguri, 39, married with three children was a preacher born in Karagwe. He says his parents migrated from Rwanda in 1959. Although he has a birth certificate, he did not apply to be a citizen. Even his parents did not apply for citizenship. They always assumed that the 1961 blanket citizenship was enough. But when local Tanzanian communities began a campaign against Banyarwanda, he and his entire family applied for citizenship and it was denied without reason. Meanwhile, his father returned to Rwanda in 2006 but Rwabuduguri stayed behind.

"I am not happy to leave my home," he told me, "I left all my friends and property - cows, land a house in Tanzania, the only country I have and know in all my life. I don't know Rwanda. [Idi] Amin gave Indians 90 days to leave Uganda; we Banyarwanda in Tanzania were given only 14 days to leave. Like Idi Amin's expulsion, we Banyarwanda leaving Tanzania are stripped of our property."

Fred Samuel Rurangwa, 27, is still single and was born in Karagwe. His parents migrated to Tanzania from Rwanda. He says that President Kikwete came to Karagwe and said every Rwandan has to leave within 14 days. His parents left to where he does not know. Then local defense units came and chased him away after the 14 days expired. He was a cattle keeper and left all his 50 cows behind. He had land, which they left behind. He has been turned destitute now.

In Kigali, local officials are confused about what to do with these refugees. Should Rwanda grant them citizenship because they share its language and culture? There are many Kinyarwanda speaking communities in Uganda and DR Congo who are there by the arbitrariness of colonial borders, by decades of migration and by naturalisation or marriage. If every country decided to expel such persons, what would Rwanda's response be?

allAfrica.com: East Africa: Tanzania's Unusual Immigration Case

 

[joely]

Kwa nini wanyarwanda tu ndo walalamikaji?
May be mission not accomplished.

 

[Fundi Mchundo]

Tunatia aibu. Hawa tunaowaita "illegal immigrants" wametukosea nini? Hizi ni siasa za chuki, vindictiveness na xenophobia. Hazikutakiwa kuwa na nafasi katika nchi kama yetu.

Amandla.....

 

[isotope]

Dah hawa watutsi noma, kweli uraia wa 1961 ulilenga kuwanufaisha wao. Kweli wamebwana hadi wanaanza hata kumsingizia marehemu.

But Tanzania's (then called Tanganyika) founding president, Julius Nyerere, felt that Africans in Africa should not be refugees. Therefore, the 1961 blanket citizenship on the eve of independence was understood as aimed at helping Tutsi refugees in the country feel at home.

 

[Niwemugizi]

Wanyarwanda bwana wao ndiyo wanaoipenda Tanzania kuliko Warundi, Wacongoman na Waganda.Mbona wote walitumuliwa na wote walikuwa wameishi muda mrefu kama huyo Matata lakini hawaandiki propaganda kama za Rwandese.Tuwatimue mapema wasije wakaanzisha vikundi vya wanyamulenge kama ilivotokea Zaire mwaka 1996 ambayo mpaka leo haikaliki kwa sababu ya Wanyarwanda.
Please njooneni na huku kwetu kuna wanaojiita wahangaza wakati ni watusi wa Kinyarwanda muwatoe tupate sehemu ya kulisha mifugo yetu na sehemu ya kulima maana wamehonga wenyeviti wa vijiji vya Buhendangabo na wamepewa ardhi yetu bure.Naomba zioezi hili liwe endelevu mpaka tuwasafishe wote

 

[lynxeffect22]

Warudi kwao....next wakenya na wahindi...na bado, mpaka tutakapoheshimiana!

 

[Ivonya-Ngia]

Mkuu EMT shukrani kwa hili bandiko.

Ingawa ni vema tukawa na tahadhari juu ya yote tutakayosikia katika zoezi hili maana katika hali ya kawaida mkosaji kamwe hakosi la kujitetea ila pia busara ya kawaida inatuelekeza kuwa mara nyingi lisemwalo lipo. Binafsi naona kuna serious cases mbili(2) hapa.
1. Kuna dosari ya kutoa maamuzi kwa kuangalia tu muonekano wa watu
2. Kuna kutenganishwa kwa familia

Muonekano wa watu: Nimeona pia bandiko juu ya yule "hakimu" kulalamika juu ya mkasa wa kutaka kusombwa. Hii case ya bwana Matata hapo if it actually exists itapelekea zoezi zima kuingia mushkeli mkubwa. Kama huyo bwana ana miaka 63 na alizaliwa Tanganyika through hiyo chain aliyoielezea basi moja kwa moja anakidhi lile takwa la kikatiba kuwa raia maana alikuwapo Tanganyika hadi ule usiku wa 09 December 1961. Hizi ni baadhi tu ya case ambazo zimekuwa public, je kwa hakika tunafahamu kuna ndugu zetu wangapi yaweza kuwa wameathirika na hili?

Zoezi likiendelea kwa namna hii kuna shaka hata ndugu zetu ambao labda tu wana ugomvi na mtendaji wa kijiji ama katibu tarafa wakavikwa "uhamiaji haramu" na kusombwa.

Utenganishaji wa familia: Hii ni hatari kubwa nayoiona hapa. Baba anasombwa then mama na watoto wanabaki. Ni nini hatima ya mama na watoto hawa??? Huu ni ukatili mkubwa sana. Kuna mipango gani ya makusudi imewekwa ili ku_sustain hizi familia? Hofu yangu hapa ni kuwa zoezi hili linaweza kuwaharibia watoto wengi sana mustakabali wa maisha yao. Mwisho wa siku ni maafa kwa jamii na taifa kwa ujumla, complete desperation.

Naanza kupata shaka kuwa maafisa wetu wanaosimamia zoezi zima ama wamepungukiwa weledi ama la wanaongozwa na jazba. Sidhani pia kama walijipanga kisawasawa juu ya taratibu za uhakiki na uondoshaji wa hao "wahamiaji haramu". Kwa mbali naona zoezi zima likiishia kuwa disastrous kijamii.

 

[kmbwembwe]

Kwa nini wanyarwanda tu ndo walalamikaji?
May be mission not accomplished.

Data zinaonyesha warundi ndio wengi wamebambwa ila wanyarwanda tu ndio wanalalamika.

 

[Edson]

hii makala imerudi tena!! lazima warudi kwao.hiz propaganda hazisaidii lolote.

 

[JokaKuu]

..Paul Kagame alikuwa raia wa Uganda lakini alirudi kwao Rwanda.

..sasa kwanini analazimisha hawa wenzake waendelee kuishi ukimbizini?

..Habyarimana naye alikuwa na mitizamo kama hii ya RPF na Andrew Mwenda. Alikuwa hataki kusikia habari ya Wanyarwanda wanaoishi ukimbizini kurudi kwao.

 

[joely]

hawa watusi ukiangalia historia inaonyesha wazi kuwa hata wakiwa katika nchi zingine bado hawakubali kuambatana na jamii mpya na ndio maana Kagame alikuwa mganda na baadaye mnyarwanda, orodha ni ndefu sana,

historia inafanya wasiaminike, ni kosa sana kuwaamini hawa watu

 

[August]

sawa lakini kama mnahamia mahali basi msiwe ndumila kuwili, mnatakiwa kuwa watiifu kwa serikali iliyo wakubali muishi, na hili tatizo licha ya Nyerere kuwapa huo ukaazi lakini baadae aliona tatizo la wahamiaji wakaazi kuishi karibu na mpaka wa nchi yao asili, kama mnavyo fanya goma na kivu, kutaka sehemu hizi ziwe za watusi aka banyamulenga, hao wahamiaji kama wanataka kuishi bongo wakaanzishe maisha western congo or east of Tanzania.

 

[EMT]

hii makala imerudi tena!! lazima warudi kwao. hiz propaganda hazisaidii lolote.

Kuna nyingine imeandikwa na BBC News leo. Whether ni propaganda or not if they were here illegally, then the government may have a case, though some may argue under humanitarian ground kulingana na muda ambao waliishi Tanzania.

Hata hivyo, lakini kama wapo ambao walipewa uraia na serikali ya Tanzania au walikuwa wametuma maombi yao huku wasubiri uamuzi kufanyika, then I think at least they have a case.

Pia wale walioambiwa waonyeshe Identity ID ili kudhibitisha kuwa wao ni Watanzania may be a bit unfair ukiingatia kuwa hata sisi Watanzania wengi hatuna hizo IDs kudhibitisha Utanzania wetu.

Any administrative action should be implemented fairly and justly taking into account the circumstances of those likely to be affected.

Maana kama mwanamke ameolewa, kuishi miaka mingi Tanzania na kuzaa na Mtanzania, unadhani ni fair and just kwa pande zote mbilu kumtimua nchini huyo mgeni na kumwacha mumewe na watoto ambao ni Watanzania peke yao?

I am not defending illegal immigrants, but kati ya hao walikuwa deported watakuwepo ambao wana genuine concern.

Don't blame them. Rather, blame the government, ilikuwa wapi kipindi hicho chote mpaka wahamiaji haramu wakaishi Tanzania kwa muda wote kiasia cha wengine kuoa/kuolewa na kuzaa watoto?

Does it make sense to you kumfukuza mwanamke kwa kigezo kuwa ni mnyarwanda wakati mtoto wake siyo tuu ni Mtanzania bali ni afisa usalama kwenye serikali ya Tanzania?


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Why has Tanzania deported thousands to Rwanda?

A camp has been established for those expelled from Tanzania

Several thousand "illegal immigrants" have been expelled from Tanzania to Rwanda in the past month, which some are linking to a recent row between the two governments, as the BBC's Prudent Nsengiyumva reports. With a football made from banana leaves, dozens of children are playing a match in a dusty field at the Kiyanzi camp in eastern Rwanda. Not far away, women are cooking beans and cassava in make-shift homes built with trees and iron sheets.

They are among around 6,600 people who have crossed the border over the past month after Tanzania's President Jakaya Kikwete ordered the expulsion of "illegal immigrants" and "criminals", amid heightening diplomatic tension with the Rwandan government over the conflict in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Tanzania fears that Rwanda might try to destabilise it, in retaliation for its decision to send troops to DR Congo as part of a new UN force seeking to disarm and neutralise the M23 rebel group. The M23 is widely seen as a proxy of Rwanda, though the government in Kigali denies it is backing the group or is seeking conflict with Tanzania.

Rwanda's Minister of Refugees and Disaster Management Seraphine Mukantabana suggests that the expulsions are politically motivated, pointing that many women, children and elderly people have been deported. "I think those ones are not criminals," she told the BBC.

But some analysts deny the expulsions are linked to the diplomatic spat, pointing out that Tanzania has expelled "illegal immigrants" before - and people were not only deported to Rwanda this time, but also some 4,000 to Burundi. Of those who have crossed into Rwanda, many are living with their friends and relatives while about 3,000 are at the camp - among them Vestine Kampundu, a pregnant woman who was born in Tanzania to a Rwandan couple who fled conflict in their home country in the 1960s.

'Husband killed'

Aged 34, she says she had never set foot in Rwanda, until she was forced to go there in August.

Some of those expelled are now dependent on government help

"When police came to my home, my husband was not present. They asked me to show documents and I gave them [my] birth certificate because that's what we used there but they said it was not sufficient and told us 'go back to your country'," Ms Kampundu told the BBC. "My husband had a work permit as well but they said they wanted to see citizenship cards and only citizenship given during President Nyerere's era," she adds referring to Tanzania's first post-independence leader.

It is a story repeated by many people - that they had lived in Tanzania all their lives, but were forced to leave because they did not have citizenship cards. "The reason we did not apply for citizenship was because local leaders used to tell us that if you are born in Tanzania and have a birth certificate, it is enough to confirm you are a citizen," Ms Kampundu says. "Even some of those leaders don't have the documents they were asking from us to prove our citizenship. They also have birth certificates only."

Coming from a pastoralist family, she says her husband was killed, probably by cattle thieves, as he crossed the border by foot with their herd, after taking a different route. Rwanda's Director for Refugee Affairs Jean Claude Rwahama says the government will do everything it can to help people like Ms Kampundu start a new life. "These are Rwandans," he says. "We've given ourselves a period of six months to make sure that these people get reintegrated in different areas of the country."

But it is not going to be easy. Rwanda is densely populated, with not enough land to go round. Nor do many of the people at the camp see themselves as Rwandans. "My parents died when I was eight years old. Since then I felt that I was Tanzanian. Personally I left behind four cows, 10 goats, a house and a plot of land," says Daniel Mugisha, a 33-year-old father of three.

"Life's very hard here. In Tanzania I was a farmer and lived on raising my cattle but now I live on government assistance. I do nothing. I sit the whole day waiting to be helped when I was taking care of myself." Expressing a similar view, Ms Kampundu says: "I don't know anything about life in Rwanda. I thought I would figure out together with my husband but I don't have any answer. I'm just counting on government assistance."

BBC News - Why has Tanzania deported thousands to Rwanda?

 

[Son of Alaska]

tunatia aibu. Hawa tunaowaita "illegal immigrants" wametukosea nini? Hizi ni siasa za chuki, vindictiveness na xenophobia. Hazikutakiwa kuwa na nafasi katika nchi kama yetu.

Amandla.....

i never expected,in my lifetime to see tanzania sink this low,shortcomings zetu sio tunatafuta scapegoats

 

[bona]

wakati serikali yetu inashabikia uraia wa nchi mbili ambao kwa mtazamo mpana ni kwa ajili ya kuhingwa na wawekezaji ili wa enjoy haki kama mtaznania inawafukuza watanzania wa kweli kule kagera!!! nadhan kuna tatizo kama mtu by jiografia amekaa apo kagera mda wote uo leo umuite sio raia nadhan its wrong.... we do not need dual citizenship ila tunahitaji utanzania kama wa hawa wanaofukuzwa kagera ni ubaguzi wa kipuuz kabisa!!!

 

[Fundi Mchundo]

..Paul Kagame alikuwa raia wa Uganda lakini alirudi kwao Rwanda.

..sasa kwanini analazimisha hawa wenzake waendelee kuishi ukimbizini?

..Habyarimana naye alikuwa na mitizamo kama hii ya RPF na Andrew Mwenda. Alikuwa hataki kusikia habari ya Wanyarwanda wanaoishi ukimbizini kurudi kwao.

Sidhani kama anataka waishi ukimbizini. Ubinadamu unasema kuwa mtu akishaweka mizizi basi si mkimbizi tena. Utamuitaje mtu ambae amezaliwa Tanzania, amesoma Tanzania, ameoa Tanzania, amejenga Tanzania, anachangia uchumi wa Tanzania mkimbizi kwa vile tu wazazi wake hawakuomba uraia walipohamia kabla ya uhuru!

Kagame ingawa alikuwa raia wa Uganda alijitambua kama mtu wa Rwanda. Hawa tunaowaongelea ni watu wa kawaida ambao wanajitambua kama watanzania na sio wanyarwanda. Kwa wale ambao ni kama Kagame hawatangoja waambiwe toka! hatuwatendei haki hata kidogo.

Kwa mtindo huu, tutamalizana.

Amandla......

 

[JokaKuu]

Sidhani kama anataka waishi ukimbizini. Ubinadamu unasema kuwa mtu akishaweka mizizi basi si mkimbizi tena. Utamuitaje mtu ambae amezaliwa Tanzania, amesoma Tanzania, ameoa Tanzania, amejenga Tanzania, anachangia uchumi wa Tanzania mkimbizi kwa vile tu wazazi wake hawakuomba uraia walipohamia kabla ya uhuru!

Kagame ingawa alikuwa raia wa Uganda alijitambua kama mtu wa Rwanda. Hawa tunaowaongelea ni watu wa kawaida ambao wanajitambua kama watanzania na sio wanyarwanda. Kwa wale ambao ni kama Kagame hawatangoja waambiwe toka! hatuwatendei haki hata kidogo.

Kwa mtindo huu, tutamalizana.

Amandla......

..hiyo article imeandikwa na Andrew Mwenda, mwandishi aliyedai Salma Kikwete ni Mhutu.

..kwa msingi huo we have to take what ever he writes with a grain of salt.

..hili zoezi lina matatizo ya hapa na pale, na mfano ni hao jamaa ambao ni raia wetu lakini wamefukuzwa.

..pamoja na hayo, naamini serikali lazima ishughulikie zoezi hili la kutimua wahamiaji haramu. kinachopaswa kufanyika ni kuongeza ufanisi na umakini.

 

[Son of Alaska]

Sidhani kama anataka waishi ukimbizini. Ubinadamu unasema kuwa mtu akishaweka mizizi basi si mkimbizi tena. Utamuitaje mtu ambae amezaliwa Tanzania, amesoma Tanzania, ameoa Tanzania, amejenga Tanzania, anachangia uchumi wa Tanzania mkimbizi kwa vile tu wazazi wake hawakuomba uraia walipohamia kabla ya uhuru!

Kagame ingawa alikuwa raia wa Uganda alijitambua kama mtu wa Rwanda. Hawa tunaowaongelea ni watu wa kawaida ambao wanajitambua kama watanzania na sio wanyarwanda. Kwa wale ambao ni kama Kagame hawatangoja waambiwe toka! hatuwatendei haki hata kidogo.

Kwa mtindo huu, tutamalizana.

Amandla......

kum displace mtu ina fall katika crimes against humanity as per the Geneva convention-hopefull Kikwete will be answerable siku mmoja

 

[JokaKuu]

kum displace mtu ina fall katika crimes against humanity as per the Geneva convention-hopefull Kikwete will be answerable siku mmoja

..sidhani kama mashtaka ya crimes against humanity yanakuwa applied that easily.

..majority ya waliotimuliwa ni wahamiaji haramu.

 

[Mutakyamirwa]

Sidhani kama anataka waishi ukimbizini. Ubinadamu unasema kuwa mtu akishaweka mizizi basi si mkimbizi tena. Utamuitaje mtu ambae amezaliwa Tanzania, amesoma Tanzania, ameoa Tanzania, amejenga Tanzania, anachangia uchumi wa Tanzania mkimbizi kwa vile tu wazazi wake hawakuomba uraia walipohamia kabla ya uhuru!

Kagame ingawa alikuwa raia wa Uganda alijitambua kama mtu wa Rwanda. Hawa tunaowaongelea ni watu wa kawaida ambao wanajitambua kama watanzania na sio wanyarwanda. Kwa wale ambao ni kama Kagame hawatangoja waambiwe toka! hatuwatendei haki hata kidogo.

Kwa mtindo huu, tutamalizana.

Amandla......

Yes, some of us are coming back to our senses.

Mkuu, toka mwanzo nimeaongea mambo yanavyokwneda ndivyo sivyo. Niliwambia mara zote mipaka inauhusiano wa kidamu pande za nchi zinazopakana. Kwa bahati mbaya yanayowahangukia bahadhi ya wanaoitwa wahamiji haramu mkoa wa Kagera sivyo. Watu wengi hapa jf wanachukulia jambo hilo kishabiki na mchanganyiko wahistoria za uongo na kweli kuhusu watutsi na jk na pk na huko Congo then wana-victimaze watu.