Should polygamy be legal?

OsamaBinLaden said:
mbona sasa hivi polygamy ni illegal lakini ukimwi ndio kama maleria je ni poligamy piaa????
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OSAMA,
Nadhani umesema kinyume.Ukweli ni kwamba wataalamu wa sheria wanasema kuwa Polygamy ni LEGAL with specifications.

Umesoma mchango wa S.M na ANABELLAH hapo juu?
 
OsamaBinLaden said:
mbona sasa hivi polygamy ni illegal lakini ukimwi ndio kama maleria je ni poligamy piaa????
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Polygamy is legal only to Islams and few people who likes to practice such things and who are more sexually controled than mentally. Tanzania's laws are cold and/or unfactioning with regards to religious matters.

Islam permits a man to have up to four wives at a time, provided the husband treats all of them equally, inter-alia, a muslem must submit to islamic sharia laws, to wit. Tanzania has islams.

Moreover, the Personal Status law arbitrates against a wife, as it gives a man the absolute right to polygamy without provisions mandating that he inform his wife of his plans. "The law doesn't restrict polygamy according to Sharia rule, which stipulates non-harassment, equality and justice among wives, inter-alia, the same law discriminates against divorced women to the same degree when it comes to alimony and child custody.

Therefore, according to the Sharia, despite declarations of the equality of the sexes before God, women are considered inferior to men, and have fewer rights and responsibilities. A woman counts as half a man in giving evidence in a court of law, Mahakama ya kadhi, or in matters of inheritance. Her position is less advantageous than a man's with regard to marriage and divorce. A husband has the moral and religious right and duty to beat his wives for disobedience or for perceived misconduct. A woman does not have the right to choose her husband, or her place of residence, to travel freely or have freedom in her choice of clothing. Women have little or no autonomy and are deemed to need the protection of their fathers, husbands or other male relatives throughout their lives. Any conduct that undermines the idea of male supremacy will fall foul of the Sharia.

Wherefore, the question 'SHOULD POLYGAMY BE LEGAL' is defacto, because polygamy is already legal to Tanzanians with the faith and beliefs of muhammadic.

This is according to my understanding of ethical laws.

Please be informed accordingly,

Max Shimba, A Bondservant of Jesus Christ.
 
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Mkuu
Am not also a law expert, but I think polygamy has been inherited from long time ago it has also been included in bibiles, that is why everybody has been quite on this matter.
I hate polygamy but, so long as ur able to maintain the families both socially,financially and kuwalidhisha ktk tendo la ndoa wote kwa pamoja in such a way that no body is worried in looking outside her old boyfriend kumlizisha sawa.
Shida ni kwamba wanazaa watoto wengi na kushindwa kuwapeleka mashukeni wakasome, na kuachia mzigo majirani na familia nzima, alafu nakubakia kusema wenzetu wazungu walibalikiwa kila mtu amekwenda shule, hawajui kama wenzetu hawa wana invest kwa watoto waliowazaa, sio kuoa na kuzaa kama sisimizi au kinyonga anaezaa na kuondoka, mtoto ajua mwenyewe.
Therefore polygamy should be illegal as long as u can provide their needs and investing on all kids by taking them to school, bila kujali huyu ni wa mariam, mke wangu wa kwanza kapita na wakati au huyu ni wa Kokushubira mke wangu mpya hivyo mapenzi kibao kwao, watoto waende international school, huyu wa zamani waende shule za yeboyebo.Watanzania let us start in investing on this I mean the kids kwa maisha yao ya baadae.Tuache kufikiria kuoa ovyo bila kujali watoto wataenda wapi in future, kama tumeweza kuiga kuvaa, kutembea hata kuongea and all of this western cultures, why tusiige vitu vya maana, kama family control kuwa na watoto ambao tunauwezo wa kuwapeleka shule wakasome, kuliko kuwa jangwani kuombaomba.
I HATE POLYGAMY KWA SABABU NILIZOZITOA HAPO JUU.FIKIRIA MARA 2 KABLA YA KUTENDA.
MKE MMOJA WA NDOA ANAKUTOSHA, what do u get, kama ukiwa na wanawake wengi, just sexy for 10 minutes basi unasahau, lakini u create problems in future.
 
MaxShimba said:
Polygamy is legal only to Islams and few people who likes to practice such things and who are more sexually controled than mentally. Tanzanians laws are cold and/or unfactioning with regards to religious matters.

Islam permits a man to have up to four wives at a time, provided the husband treats all of them equally, inter-alia, a muslem must submit to islamic sharia laws, to wit. Tanzania has islams.

Moreover, the Personal Status law arbitrates against a wife, as it gives a man the absolute right to polygamy without provisions mandating that he inform his wife of his plans. “The law doesn’t restrict polygamy according to Sharia rule, which stipulates non-harassment, equality and justice among wives, inter-alia, the same law discriminates against divorced women to the same degree when it comes to alimony and child custody.

Therefore, according to the Sharia, despite declarations of the equality of the sexes before God, women are considered inferior to men, and have fewer rights and responsibilities. A woman counts as half a man in giving evidence in a court of law, Mahakama ya kadhi, or in matters of inheritance. Her position is less advantageous than a man’s with regard to marriage and divorce. A husband has the moral and religious right and duty to beat his wives for disobedience or for perceived misconduct. A woman does not have the right to choose her husband, or her place of residence, to travel freely or have freedom in her choice of clothing. Women have little or no autonomy and are deemed to need the protection of their fathers, husbands or other male relatives throughout their lives. Any conduct that undermines the idea of male supremacy will fall foul of the Sharia.

Wherefore, the question 'SHOULD POLYGAMY BE LEGAL' is defacto, because polygamy is already legal to Tanzanians with the faith and beliefs of muhammadic.

This is according to my understanding of ethical laws.

Please be informed accordingly,

Max Shimba, A Bondservant of Jesus Christ.
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Yes I'm sure polygamy is practiced in tanzania by the evil sex loving 'islams' under their evil devilish sharia law. All people who are non-muslims in tanzania are morally superior and do not engage in extra marital affairs and sexual innuendos because they have clean souls etc. I regret the observation that your stupidity knows no limits...
 
MaxShimba said:
Polygamy is legal only to Islams and few people who likes to practice such things and who are more sexually controled than mentally. Tanzanians laws are cold and/or unfactioning with regards to religious matters.

Islam permits a man to have up to four wives at a time, provided the husband treats all of them equally, inter-alia, a muslem must submit to islamic sharia laws, to wit. Tanzania has islams.

Moreover, the Personal Status law arbitrates against a wife, as it gives a man the absolute right to polygamy without provisions mandating that he inform his wife of his plans. “The law doesn’t restrict polygamy according to Sharia rule, which stipulates non-harassment, equality and justice among wives, inter-alia, the same law discriminates against divorced women to the same degree when it comes to alimony and child custody.

Therefore, according to the Sharia, despite declarations of the equality of the sexes before God, women are considered inferior to men, and have fewer rights and responsibilities. A woman counts as half a man in giving evidence in a court of law, Mahakama ya kadhi, or in matters of inheritance. Her position is less advantageous than a man’s with regard to marriage and divorce. A husband has the moral and religious right and duty to beat his wives for disobedience or for perceived misconduct. A woman does not have the right to choose her husband, or her place of residence, to travel freely or have freedom in her choice of clothing. Women have little or no autonomy and are deemed to need the protection of their fathers, husbands or other male relatives throughout their lives. Any conduct that undermines the idea of male supremacy will fall foul of the Sharia.

Wherefore, the question 'SHOULD POLYGAMY BE LEGAL' is defacto, because polygamy is already legal to Tanzanians with the faith and beliefs of muhammadic.

This is according to my understanding of ethical laws.

Please be informed accordingly,

Max Shimba, A Bondservant of Jesus Christ.
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6.LAMEKI ALIOA WAKE WAWILI ENDELEO KUTOKA KTK THREAD YANGU ANZA JUU KULE...!

MWANZO 4.
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OsamaBinLaden said:
6.LAMEKI ALIOA WAKE WAWILI ENDELEO KUTOKA KTK THREAD YANGU ANZA JUU KULE...!

MWANZO 4.
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Nitakujibu mkuu
 
Exaud J. Makyao said:
I'm not sure if it is right for poligamy to be legal.
At this era of hiv/aids, polygamy should be illegal.
I dont support it at all.
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EJM,

Ili kuwa na sheria hiyo kwanza itabidi tubadili katiba yetu na kuondoa uhuru wa kuabudu!

Hata hivyo, kama tunazungumzia mapambano dhidi ya ukimwi, kutunga sheria ya kukataza ndoa za mitala si suluhisho asilani. Tatizo la ukimwi si aina ya ndoa, ni tabia zetu sisi wenyewe. Kama mtu ana wake kumi (ambao kabla ya kuoana na kila mmoja wao walipima HIV and they were all negative), na baada ya hapo wote mwanaume pamoja na wake zake kumi wakawa waaminifu katika ndoa hiyo ya mitala, ni vipi watapata maambukizo ya HIV kwa sababu ya aina ya ndoa yao? Kama watu si waaminifu katika ndoa zetu hata kama ni ya mke mmoja, maambukizi hayawezi kukoma.

Labda tutunge sheria ya kuzuia kufanya tendo la ndoa nje ya ndoa, kulazimisha upimaji wa mara kwa mara wa virusi na kuwawekea quarantine wale wote walioambukizwa ili kuzuia wasiambukize wengine (I know this sounds so inhumane and impractical!).

Jaribu kucompare prevalence ya HIV/AIDS in the Islamic countries na nchi nyingine.
 
Kinyambiss said:
Yes I'm sure polygamy is practiced in tanzania by the evil sex loving 'islams' under their evil devilish sharia law. All people who are non-muslims in tanzania are morally superior and do not engage in extra marital affairs and sexual innuendos because they have clean souls etc. I regret the observation that your stupidity knows no limits...
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ILA UMESAHAU KIDOGO ....ISLAMU TU SIO KWELI....HIIJE

1. WAKE WA NABII DAUDI
At least 18 wives - Michal, Abigail, Ahinoam of Jezreel, Eglah, Maacah, Abital, Haggith, and Bathsheba, and "10 women/concubines"
"Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king's son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife." 1 Samuel 18:27. (See also 1 Samuel 19:11-18; 25:44; and 2 Samuel 3:13-14; 6:20-23.)



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kumwomba awe mke wake. [FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow][FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow]40[/FONT][/FONT]Watumishi wa Daudi wakaenda mpaka Karmeli na kumwambia Abigaili wakisema, "Daudi ametutuma kwako kukuchukua uwe mkewe.’’

David also took Ahinoam of Jezreel; and they were also both of them his wives." 1 Samuel 25:43

But Saul had given Michal his daughter, David's wife," 1 Samuel 25:44

And David took him more concubines and wives" 2 Samuel 5:13, 1 Chronicles 14:3

"And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul; And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things." 2 Samuel 12:7-8


"And David comforted Bathsheba his wife..." 2 Samuel 12:24

"And the king went forth, and all his household after him. And the king left ten women, which were concubines, to keep the house." 2 Samuel 15:16. (See also 2 Samuel 16:21-23.)
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Polygamy should never be legalised as it brings many disasters in families. Aids is one of the possibilities but also peace usually goes away.
 
havijawa said:
polygamy should never be legalised as it brings many disasters in families. Aids is one of the possibilities but also peace usually goes away.
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mimi naona upo rong hebu linganisha saudia na uzunguni wapi ukimwi upo ....?

zinaa ndio kikwazo chaukimwi acheni zinaaa na umalaya ...oeni...mutulie ndani ya ndoa zenu.
 
Waungwana, naomba mniazime macho yenu kwa muda kidogo.

Kabla hujaanza kuangalia uhalali wa jambo ni vyema ukalijua jambo. Hii inamaana unapozungumzia uhalali wa Mitaala (Polygamism) ni vyema ukalifanyia uchunguzi kidogo swala zima.

Tuanze kuangalia jamii yetu ya awali, maisha yalikuwaje, wanajamii waliishi vipi? Hii inamaana kabla na baada ya ukoloni.

Mitaala ni halali katika nchi ya Tanzania, ila kwa mtazamo wa dini mbali mbali inawekwa kwamba si halali (Madhara ya Ukoloni).

Swala la ukimwi na mitaala, wakoloni walikataza mitaala ili watu wasiongezeke kwa kasi wao waweze kuwatawala kwa urahisi, vivyo hivyo inabidi watu wawe na mpenzi mmoja ili tuweze kuutokomeza ukimwi la mwenye ukimwi tumuangamize ili asije ambukiza wengine.

Ukimwi ni kama magugu katika shamba la mpunga, hivyo vita dhidi ya ukimwi visiangalie tu eti ngono. Ushahidi ninao kuna kijana alipata ukimwi akiwa na kama miaka tano na ni baada ya kuongezewa damu. Je, hapo utasema ni swala la mitaala?

Sheria ya ndoa ya mwaka 1973, inaruhusu mtu mke au mtu mume kuchagua kuwa na m(me/ke) mmoja au wengi. Angalia cheti cha ndoa kama umeo(a/lewa)
 
Havijawa said:
Polygamy should never be legalised as it brings many disasters in families. Aids is one of the possibilities but also peace usually goes away.
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Who said polygamy is illegal? Under what law? Lets not confuse legality with contract! Unapofunga ndo, mathalani ya kiserikali, unaulizwa kama ni ndoa ya wake wengi au mke mmoja. Ukijikomit kuwa ni mke mmoja, then you are bound by the law of contract.. however ukiamua kuoa mke mwingine, say kwa ndoa ya kimila, hujavunja sheria yoyote ya jinai. Hiyo inaweza kuwa sababu ya mke wa ndoa ya awali kudai talaka! Dini ya Kikristu inazuia mitaala, so you cant change that. It is written in their rules: mwanamke atamuacha babaye na mamaye na kuungana na mme wake, na hao wawili watakuwa mwili mmoja>....period. So mwanzisha mada, tofautisha sheria na amri za kanisa.
 
that has been the million dollar question throughout history. Jibu langu ni...."can you serve two masters at the same time???????"

Hapo basi!
 
Tanganyika formed German East Africa Protectorate in late 19th century, under British Mandate after WWI, and then UN trusteeship from 1946. Zanzibar under British protectorate from1890. Tanganyika and Zanzibar achieved independence in 1961 and 1963, respectively, and unified to form United Republic of Tanzania in April 1964. Two units have separate legislative, executive and judicial institutions. Personal status law comes under areas defined as "non-union", thus Marriage Act applying in mainland Tanzania not applicable in Zanzibar. Prior to 1971, Muslims, Christian, Hindu and customary laws governed marriage and divorce, in addition to civil marriage regime. Uniform Marriage Act passed into law in Tanganyika in 1971, integrating existing marriage laws while preserving right to religious solemnisation and option of polygamy.
 
The majority of Tanzanian Muslims are Shafi'i, with significant Hanafi, Ja'fari and Isma'ili communities and small Ibadi, Maliki, Hanbali and Ahmadi communities. The majority of Zanzibar's population is Muslim, with Christianity and indigenous religions predominant in Tanganyika.

Marriage Age in Tanzania: under Marriage Act 1971 minimum age is 18 for males and 15 for females; courts may permit underage marriage of parties who have reached 14 years of age if specific circumstances make marriage appear desirable; Penal Code provides that persons of "African or Asiatic descent" may marry or permit marriage of girl under 12 years of age in accordance with their custom or religion if marriage is not intended to be consummated before she attains 12 years

Marriage Guardianship in Tanzanaia: Marriage Act 1971 provides that valid marriage requires free consent of marrying parties; guardian's consent not required for parties who have attained 18 years

Marriage Registration: obligatory; non-registration punishable by fine although does not render marriage void; provision for licensing of religious functionaries as marriage registrars

Polygamy in Tanzania: permitted with consent of first wife; upon registration, parties are to declare whether marriage is polygamous, potentially polygamous, or monogamous, and marriage may be 'converted' to polygamous or monogamous by joint declaration Obedience/Maintenance: maintenance of wife or wives is husband's duty; becomes wife's duty in cases where husband is incapacitated and unable to earn a living; Courts may order maintenance under limited circumstances where husband refuses or neglects to maintain wife.


Constitution adopted 25th April 1977, with major revisions in 1984 and insertion of Bill of Rights in 1988. No official state religion.
 
You may get some case laws/citation in here:
Background and Sources are from: Redden, "Tanzania" in Modern Legal Systems Cyclopedia, vol. 6, Buffalo, NY, 1990; Rwezaura, "Tanzania: Family Law and the New Bill of Rights," Journal of Family Law (University of Louisville), v. 29, no. 2 (1991): 453-461; Rwebangira, The Legal Status of Women and Poverty in Tanzania, Uppsala, 1996; Rwezaura, "Tanzania: Gender Justice and Children's Rights: A Banner for Family Law Reform in Tanzania," in The International Survey of Family Law, Bainham, ed., 1997: 413-443; Rubin & Cotran, "Tanzania" in Annual Survey of African Law, vols. I-IV, 1967-1970; "Tanzania" in Women of the World: Laws and Policies Affecting Their Reproductive Lives- Anglophone Africa, Center for Reproductive Law and Policy & International Federation of Women Lawyers (Kenya Chapter), New York, 1997.

Law/Case Reporting System: Law reporting is through the Gazette of the United Republic of Tanzania and there are loose-leaf editions of the Laws of Mainland Tanzania issued periodically. Reports of High Court and Court of Appeals decisions are published in the Tanzania Law Reports which replaced the High Court Digest in 1975.
 
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