Seriously! I want to join freemasonry..

jamani msaidieni kama hamna cha kusaidia kaeni kimya

Mkuu mtafute sir andy chande au hata Mkapa watakusaidia............ pia kuna member wawili wa JF tena wote maarufu wanaweza kukusaidia wakipenda

sasa unamwambia nani wakati free masoni ni chama cha siri a hujielewi mdau

MSEZA MKULU said:

sasa unamwambia nani wakati free masoni ni chama cha siri a hujielewi mdau

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sio kila taarifa ya JF ni genuine....... open your eyes

Kiranga said:

Kimsingi Freemasons kwangu hawana tofauti na watu kama Wakatoliki, tena Freemason - the part that is publicly known- wako more altruistic kuliko Wakatoliki - the part that is publicly known-.Wote wanaamini mungu na the supernatural, and that does not impress me much.Unless unataka kuwatumia kupanda ngazi, which is cheap and despicable, sioni watakuwa na jipya gani.

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Kiranga unaweza kuthibitishaa Wakatoliki wanamwamin Mungu na supernatural?Naamin wewe ni great thinker,fanya uchunguz kabla ya kusema.no reseach no right to say.

Thank you, you may do the following below
[h=3]General requirements[/h] Generally, to be accepted for initiation as a regular Freemason, a candidate must:[SUP][21][/SUP]

• Be a man who comes of his own free will.
• Believe in a Supreme Being (the form of which is left to open interpretation by the candidate).
• Be at least the minimum age (from 18–25 years old depending on the jurisdiction. In some jurisdictions the son of a Mason, known as a "Lewis," may join at an earlier age than others).
• Be of good morals, and of good reputation.
• Be of sound mind and body (lodges had in the past denied membership to a man because of a physical disability; however, now, if a potential candidate says a disability will not cause problems, it will not be held against him).
• Be free-born (or "born free", i.e., not born a slave or bondsman).[SUP][57][/SUP] As with the previous, this is entirely an historical holdover, and can be interpreted in the same manner as it is in the context of being entitled to write a will. Some jurisdictions have removed this requirement.
• Be capable of furnishing character references, as well as one or two references from current Masons, depending on jurisdiction.

Some Grand Lodges in the United States have an additional residence requirement, candidates being expected to have lived within the jurisdiction for a certain period of time, typically six months.[SUP][58][/SUP]

Being a long proceedure is not an issue,, the problem is evil operations of the group? the only advice we can say is dont dare to join the group as long as there is Gog who created you and loves you.

Uoga mbaya sana...wengi mna hofu ya msichokifahamu..mi niko curious na hayo maswala na niko serious so kama kuna wa kunisaidia ani pm kama huna ishu...........

Tamaa mbaya sio kila unachokiona unatamani uwe nancho. Kaka kasikilize tena wimbo wa 20% tamaa mbaya kisha urudi hapa tena

Mkuu umeshiba ugali.........eti

yutong said:

Tamaa mbaya sio kila unachokiona unatamani uwe nancho. Kaka kasikilize tena wimbo wa 20% tamaa mbaya kisha urudi hapa tena

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Bora mi naona..nataka kuona zaidi....kaa na upofu wako unaosababishwa na uoga...hujui unachoongea ila hofu imekujaa...coward!!!

Jamani aulizaye ataka kujua, tusaidieni watu wanatafuta namna ya kutoka ati, siyo kwamba anamtafuta MUNGU kwani nyumba za ibada zipo nyingi.

These are just frustrations/stress in Life.

What this guy needs is just a psychologists.

I gues we have plenty here, they can assist.

Makedha said:

The Priest, freemasonry is the culture freemasons follow. Mzee Mwafrika, unaweza kutuambia kwa nini unataka kujiunga na dhehebu hilo? Unajua kwa hakika ni maadili gani freemasons hutetea? Nimeona documentary kuhusu freemasonry ambayo imenifundisha kwamba kujiunga na hili dhehebu si rahisi. Utahitaji subira na uvumilivu nyingi kwani ni mchakato mrefu. Utaulizwa maswali nyingi pia kwa freemasons kabla ya kupokewa kama new member kwani they'll want to make sure they can trust you. Ni lazima pia umepita umri wa 18. And that's pretty much all i know...Be careful with sects and the like though! It can be extremely dangerous if you don't know what your doing.

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Freemasons is not religion, its just a society of people, everyone comes from his or her religion. there are lot of secret society inside the Freemason, they dont believe in Heaven God, they believe in earthly god, Lucifer.

Mzee Mwafrika said:

Uoga mbaya sana...wengi mna hofu ya msichokifahamu..mi niko curious na hayo maswala na niko serious so kama kuna wa kunisaidia ani pm kama huna ishu...........

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Ok, I can help you, because you have asked openly in here, i need you to give eleven reason why you what to join masons.

vivian said:

These are just frustrations/stress in Life.

What this guy needs is just a psychologists.

I gues we have plenty here, they can assist.

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frustations kivipi dada?unapoongea una-reflect maisha yako kwa hiyo kuwa mwangalifu!!!unafahamu lolote kuhusu freemasonry?unawafahamu freemasons?Kama huna la kuchangia kaa kimya dada yangu....

TECHMAN said:

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Freemasons is not religion, its just a society of people, everyone comes from his or her religion. there are lot of secret society inside the Freemason, they dont believe in Heaven God, they believe in earthly god, Lucifer.

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Aren't you contradicting yourself when you say that freemasonry is not a religion, and then assert that freemasons believe in a god? From what i have read and heard of the subject, there are atheist freemsons and freemasons who believe in a supernatural being. And that being isn't necessarily the devil.

betty marandu said:

Kiranga unaweza kuthibitishaa Wakatoliki wanamwamin Mungu na supernatural?Naamin wewe ni great thinker,fanya uchunguz kabla ya kusema.no reseach no right to say.

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Kiranga Unatu-mislead: "Although members of various faiths cite objections, certain Christian denominations have had high profile negative attitudes to Masonry, banning or discouraging their members from being Freemasons. The denomination with the longest history of objection to Freemasonry is the Roman Catholic Church. The objections raised by the Roman Catholic Church are based on the allegation that Masonry teaches a naturalistic deistic religion which is in conflict with Church doctrine. A number of Papal pronouncements have been issued against Freemasonry. The first was Pope Clement XII's In Eminenti, 28 April 1738; the most recent was Pope Leo XIII's Ab Apostolici, 15 October 1890. The 1917 Code of Canon Law explicitly declared that joining Freemasonry entailed automatic excommunication. The 1917 Code of Canon Law also forbade books friendly to Freemasonry.

Source:

1. Cardinal Law, Bernard (1985-04-19). "Letter of 19 April 1985 to U.S. Bishops Concerning Masonry". CatholicCulture.org. Catholic Culture : Library : Letter of April 19, 1985 to U.S. Bishops Concerning Masonry. Retrieved July 27, 2011.

2. Canon 2335, 1917 Code of Canon Law from "Canon Law regarding Freemasonry, 1917-1983". Grand Lodge of British Columbia and Yukon. Code of Canon Law regarding Freemasonry.

Kweli huyu kijanaa anahitaji maombi,kila ki2 kwa yesu,umemuomba nini akakunyima?au ulisahau ukaomba jiwe? Ulipopewa jiwe ukaona ujaribu na kwa shetani! M2 hupewa kulingana na hitaji lako,haya piga magoti mpokee yesu kwani wakati ni sasa, shetwani hana issue.

Mzee Mwafrika said:

Mwenye mwongozo anisaidie....

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[h=1]So You Might be Interested in Becoming a Freemason ![/h][h=2]How do I join?[/h][h=3] Thank you for expressing an interest in Freemasonry by seeking out this information. To become a mason you must meet the qualifications and be accepted by a Lodge. There are a lot of misconceptions surrounding Freemasons and their activities. The following may answer some of your questions or worries.[/h][h=2]What is Freemasonry?[/h][h=3] It is the world's oldest and largest fraternity dating back at least to the Middle Ages. Its purpose is to promote the bonds of friendship, compassion and brotherly love. Politics has no role in it. Neither is it a religion as some would have you believe but rather a friend and promoter of all religions which are based on the belief in one God. Regardless of their position in society, Freemasons meet as equals. One of the most fascinating aspects of Freemasonry has always been how so many men from so many different walks of life can meet together in peace, never discuss politics or engage in religious debates, conduct their affairs in harmony and friendship, and call each other "Brother".[/h][h=2]What do we do?[/h][h=3]Freemasons are respectable citizens who are taught to respect and conform to the moral laws of society and to abide by the laws of the country or state in which they reside. They are men of charity and good works who strive to support those less fortunate than themselves both inside and outside the order.[/h][h=2]What are the qualifications?[/h][h=3]Freemasonry is proud of its philosophy and practice of "making good men better." Only individuals believed to be of good character are favourably considered for membership. Every applicant must be 21 years of age or more and respected in his locality.[/h][h=2]What goes on at a meeting?[/h][h=3]A Masonic meeting can be compared to a committee meeting or to a small "parliament" with various officers performing specific functions - Chairman (called the "Worshipful Master"), Secretary, Treasurer and so on. Items on an agenda are taken sequentially and will typically involve a ceremony, involving a candidate, which dramatises his inner growth in morality and ethics, using the symbols and metaphors of Biblical revelation and the tools of the Mediaeval stonemasons. Announcements are made and the business of the lodge dealt with. Proposals requiring assent are put to a vote. The atmosphere is convivial, but dignified. The meeting is usually followed by a supper or dinner, called a Festive Board, depending on the occasion, which is again convivial. If this description appears limited, it is not because Masons have sinister secrets to hide, but because to reveal what goes on in detail would spoil the enjoyment of the ceremonies for those who have yet to participate in them.[/h][h=2]So how do I find a lodge to join?[/h][h=3]There is a popular misconception that to become a Mason one needs to be invited to join, that there is some cloak and dagger operation involved. In fact the reverse is true - a longstanding convention within Freemasonry is that it is the potential candidate who should do the asking! Some American lodges have the phrase "To be one, ask one." If you know a friend or neighbour who is a Mason and you have a notion of joining just ask him. He will be delighted to talk with you as all Masons are proud to be members of their own Lodge.[/h][h=3]If there is no one to whom you can turn why not just E-mail the Grand Secretary for more details and the name of the secretary of a Lodge near to you. No one will twist your arm. Your name will be put before the Lodge. A committee (of perhaps two or three) will talk to you to ascertain that you are a man of good character and that you believe in God (Atheism and Freemasonry are incompatible). The committee will report its recommendation back to the Lodge. A vote will be taken and, if found acceptable, you will be on your way to being a fully fledged Mason and you will have joined the oldest global brotherhood in the world. [/h]