Saudi Arabia and Pakistan: A renewed secret nuclear weapons pact

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Saudi King Salman bin Abdul-Aziz Al Saud

The visit by the chairman of Pakistan's Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee will likely prompt concern in Washington and other major capitals that Saudi Arabia and Pakistan have reconfirmed an arrangement whereby Pakistan, if asked, will supply Saudi Arabia with nuclear warheads.

The main meeting on Gen. Rashid Mahmoud's itinerary was with King Salman - the topics discussed were reported as "deep relations between the two countries and ... a number of issues of common interest."

General Rashid also saw separately Defense Minister Prince Muhammad bin Salman - who presented him with the King Abdulaziz medal of excellence - as well as Deputy Crown Prince and Interior Minister Muhammad bin Nayef and Minister of the National Guard Prince Mitab bin Abdullah.

The only senior Saudi absent from the meetings appears to have been Crown Prince Muqrin.

For decades, Riyadh has been judged a supporter of Pakistan's nuclear weapons program, providing financing in return for a widely assumed understanding that, if needed, Islamabad will transfer technology or even warheads.

It has been noticeable that changes in leadership in either country have quickly been followed by top-level meetings, as if to reconfirm such nuclear arrangements. Although Pakistani nuclear technology also helped Iran's program, the relationship between Islamabad and Riyadh has been much more obvious.

In 1999, a year after Pakistan tested two nuclear weapons, then Saudi defense minister Prince Sultan visited the unsafeguarded uranium enrichment plant at Kahuta outside Islamabad - prompting a US diplomatic protest.

Last year, as Riyadh's concern at the prospect of Iranian nuclear hegemony in the Gulf grew, Pakistan's chief of army staff, Gen. Raheel Sharif, was a guest of honor when Saudi Arabia publicly paraded its Chinese CSS-2 missiles for the first time since they were delivered in the 1980s.

Although now nearly obsolete, the CSS-2 missile once formed the core of China's nuclear force. Pakistan's first nuclear devices were based on a Chinese design.

Pakistan's prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, visited the kingdom January 23 for the funeral of King Abdullah and had also been there a couple of weeks earlier to pay his respects to the ailing monarch.

The civilian leader and his military commanders have an awkward relationship - in an earlier term of office, Nawaz Sharif was overthrown in a military coup and sent into exile in Saudi Arabia - but Pakistan's nuclear program seems above any civil-military partisanship.

The visit by General Rashid comes a day after Pakistan announced the successful flight-testing of its Raad air-launched 220-mile-range cruise missile, which reportedly is able to deliver nuclear and conventional warheads with pinpoint accuracy.

While chairing his first cabinet meeting as prime minister yesterday, King Salman announced there would be no change in Saudi foreign policy.

In its own way, today's top-level meetings with the Pakistani military delegation seem to confirm this statement, adding perhaps an extra awkward complication to the Obama administration's effort to secure a diplomatic agreement with Tehran over Iran's nuclear program.

Source:businessinsider

 

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1)Mkuu 2013,US anajua sana Saudi is funding nuclear programs in Pakistan.Na hii itajapelekea kuvunjika KWA u-alliance Kati ya Saudi na US.No matter how many years may take,u-alliance wao utajavunjika tu.Ila kwa nini Saudi anafanya hivyo?Saudi anaogopa sana Kama ile nuclear deal Kati ya Iran na P5+ 1 nations itakwenda vizuri.Deal ikienda vizuri inamaana Iran ni threat kubwa sana kwa Saudi,come what may Iran are going to develop Nuclear weapons.Iran akidevelop nuclear weapons Kummaliza Saudi considering geographical location ni rahisi sana!! Ndiyo maana Sasa hivi US & Saudia don't trust each other.

2)Sasa hivi US don't depend on Saudi oil na hiyo imeathiri sana Uhusiano wao,Pia US is on its way to overtake Saudia as the the world oil producer.Saudi kushusha bei ya mafuta siyo tu kumuumiza Iran & Russia bali ni kuiumiza US Company Shale which is using fracking technology to drill oil massively.

(3)Ma-analyst wengi Wanasema je Uhusiano Kati ya Saudi na US ukifa,Saudia atakimbilia wapi?Saudi hana pa kukimbilia zaidi ya kwenda Russia ambaye ndiyo tu anaweza kupambana na US.Je Russia atampokea?There is no way Russia atampokea considering mambo aliyoifanyia Russia KWA kushirikiana na US mfano kuiangamiza kiuchumi thru oil prices.Hapo ndiyo Saudia ataona rangi zote.

4)Je who is the real boss in controlling the Oil Prices?Is it Saudia or OPEC or US Wall Street?Hivi US anakubalije kushuka KWA bei huku kampuni zake kibao zikiathirika?Kwani US ameshindwa kucontrol oil prices?US akiamua na ushenzi wake anaweza panga oil prices na Saudia akashika adabu yake.
Iam not fond of the two countries including their alliance na siku wakiachana nitafurahi sana.

 

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Extraterrestrial

Mkuu analysis yako nimeikubali. Ina mambo yasio na majibu rahisi Binafsi sijaelewa.kuhusu manufaa kwa nchini za ulaya. Manake naskia kuna nchini zimeacha kufanya kazi ya kuchimba mafuta baharini, Kwani mafuta hayana thamani.
Na ukiangalia uhusiano Wa us na Saudi unajengwa na. Vitu vikubwa 3;
vita dhidi ya ugaidi, biashara ya mafuta na wanashea common enemy-iran.

Pia kuna dalili kuwa us anaweza kugombana na Israel, Kwani anaelekea kupatana na Iran,/kuhusu mpango Wa nyuklia Wa Iran.
Inasemekana netanyau na obama kwa sasa haziivi.

Na inasemekana ujenzi Wa majengo ya walowezi unaoendelea hauzipendezi nchi za ulaya yangu zamani. Ambapo zinadaiwa kusubiri pengine USA atengane na Israel ili zimchenjie Israel.
Israel inadaiwa itapata hasara Kwani inategemea kukingiwa kifua na UsA kwenye UN.

Pia kuna madai kuwa machungu ya kiuchumi kwa US yataanza kuonekana mwaka huu mwezi Wa tano.

 

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Extraterrestrial

Mkuu analysis yako nimeikubali. Ina mambo yasio na majibu rahisi Binafsi sijaelewa.kuhusu manufaa kwa nchini za ulaya. Manake naskia kuna nchini zimeacha kufanya kazi ya kuchimba mafuta baharini, Kwani mafuta hayana thamani.
Na ukiangalia uhusiano Wa us na Saudi unajengwa na. Vitu vikubwa 3;
vita dhidi ya ugaidi, biashara ya mafuta na wanashea common enemy-iran.

Pia kuna dalili kuwa us anaweza kugombana na Israel, Kwani anaelekea kupatana na Iran,/kuhusu mpango Wa nyuklia Wa Iran.
Inasemekana netanyau na obama kwa sasa haziivi.

Na inasemekana ujenzi Wa majengo ya walowezi unaoendelea hauzipendezi nchi za ulaya yangu zamani. Ambapo zinadaiwa kusubiri pengine USA atengane na Israel ili zimchenjie Israel.
Israel inadaiwa itapata hasara Kwani inategemea kukingiwa kifua na UsA kwenye UN.

Pia kuna madai kuwa machungu ya kiuchumi kwa US yataanza kuonekana mwaka huu mwezi Wa tano.

Mkuu 2013 thankx for ur contribution.Kuhusu Israel kuwa na uhusiano m'baya na US kwa kweli i don't believe that is the case.Mkuu ulisoma habari ya Edward SNOWDEN which was LEAKED karibuni ilisema OBama supports Israel in every move they make na hakuna anachofanya Israel bila support ya US na amesema hakuna raisi aliyeipa ISrael misaada mikubwa kama Obama hata Bush hajafikia support ISRAEL anayopata kwa OBAMA administration. Na hiyo ya Netanyau kwenda US next month March kumeet na US congress lead by Speaker na Obama kashasema hataki kumuona Netanyau aise ni siasa tu za uongo kuidanganya dunia.Kwa EU kidogo naamini they don't like Isael except the UK govt.Please read just part of report as below:


[h=1]Cash, Weapons and Surveillance: the U.S. is a Key Party to Every Israeli Attack[/h]

U.S. President Barack Obama (L) greets Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during a press conference on March 20, 2013 in Jerusalem, Israel. Photo credit: Lior Mizrahi/Getty Images


The U.S. government has long lavished overwhelming aid on Israel, providing cash, weapons and surveillance technology that play a crucial role in Israel’s attacks on its neighbors. But top secret documents provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden shed substantial new light on how the U.S. and its partners directly enable Israel’s military assaults – such as the one on Gaza.

Over the last decade, the NSA has significantly increased the surveillance assistance it provides to its Israeli counterpart, the Israeli SIGINT National Unit (ISNU; also known as Unit 8200), including data used to monitor and target Palestinians. In many cases, the NSA and ISNU work cooperatively with the British and Canadian spy agencies, the GCHQ and CSEC.
The relationship has, on at least one occasion, entailed the covert payment of a large amount of cash to Israeli operatives. Beyond their own surveillance programs, the American and British surveillance agencies rely on U.S.-supported Arab regimes, including the Jordanian monarchy and even the Palestinian Authority Security Forces, to provide vital spying services regarding Palestinian targets.
The new documents underscore the indispensable, direct involvement of the U.S. government and its key allies in Israeli aggression against its neighbors. That covert support is squarely at odds with the posture of helpless detachment typically adopted by Obama officials and their supporters.
President Obama, in his press conference on Friday, said “it is heartbreaking to see what’s happening there,” referring to the weeks of civilian deaths in Gaza – “as if he’s just a bystander, watching it all unfold,” observed Brooklyn College Professor Corey Robin. Robin added: “Obama talks about Gaza as if it were a natural disaster, an uncontrollable biological event.”
Each time Israel attacks Gaza and massacres its trapped civilian population – at the end of 2008, in the fall of 2012, and now again this past month – the same process repeats itself in both U.S. media and government circles: the U.S. government feeds Israel the weapons it uses and steadfastly defends its aggression both publicly and at the U.N.; the U.S. Congress unanimously enacts one resolution after the next to support and enable Israel; and then American media figures pretend that the Israeli attack has nothing to do with their country, that it’s just some sort of unfortunately intractable, distant conflict between two equally intransigent foreign parties in response to which all decent Americans helplessly throw up their hands as though they bear no responsibility.
“The United States has been trying to broker peace in the Middle East for the past 20 years,” wrote the liberal commentator Kevin Drum in Mother Jones, last Tuesday. The following day, CNN reported that the Obama administration “agreed to Israel’s request to resupply it with several types of ammunition … Among the items being bought are 120mm mortar rounds and 40mm ammunition for grenade launchers.”
The new Snowden documents illustrate a crucial fact: Israeli aggression would be impossible without the constant, lavish support and protection of the U.S. government, which is anything but a neutral, peace-brokering party in these attacks. And the relationship between the NSA and its partners on the one hand, and the Israeli spying agency on the other, is at the center of that enabling.



Tally of UN Vote on July 22, 2014 to investigate violations of international law in West Bank and Gaza (Credit: Ken Roth, Human Rights Watch)

 

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Extraterrestrial

Mkuu analysis yako nimeikubali. Ina mambo yasio na majibu rahisi Binafsi sijaelewa.kuhusu manufaa kwa nchini za ulaya. Manake naskia kuna nchini zimeacha kufanya kazi ya kuchimba mafuta baharini, Kwani mafuta hayana thamani.
Na ukiangalia uhusiano Wa us na Saudi unajengwa na. Vitu vikubwa 3;
vita dhidi ya ugaidi, biashara ya mafuta na wanashea common enemy-iran.

Pia kuna dalili kuwa us anaweza kugombana na Israel, Kwani anaelekea kupatana na Iran,/kuhusu mpango Wa nyuklia Wa Iran.
Inasemekana netanyau na obama kwa sasa haziivi.

Na inasemekana ujenzi Wa majengo ya walowezi unaoendelea hauzipendezi nchi za ulaya yangu zamani. Ambapo zinadaiwa kusubiri pengine USA atengane na Israel ili zimchenjie Israel.
Israel inadaiwa itapata hasara Kwani inategemea kukingiwa kifua na UsA kwenye UN.

Pia kuna madai kuwa machungu ya kiuchumi kwa US yataanza kuonekana mwaka huu mwezi Wa tano.

Mkuu kuhusu Iran Tayari US congress led by Republican Wameshaandaa bills of new sanctions on Iran ingawa Obama amesema he will veto on any new sanctions.Hivi kweli can the US dissapoint Israel AND Saudia?Ukiangalia SAudia ni kama yupo kwenye ndoa na US pamoja na tofauti walizonazo they have focused more on their mutual interest.Mimi nashangaa pamoja na Saudi kuhusika kwenye september 11 and the Saudis funded the attack lakini hawajafanyana kitu na US eti both parties wanaangalia zaidi interest zao? Just the beginning of this month kulikuwa kuna habari AL-Qaeda plotter claims Saudi Royals Helped Fund 9/11 Attacks.The plotter said during court testmony that members of the Saudi royal family provided financial support for the terrorist operation.Anachoogopa US to the Saudi ni due the fact that Saudi sells the oil for $ only according their agreement,imagine Saudi akiacha kuuza kwa $ itakuwaje.Kutokana na report yako SAudi is buying plenty of millitary weapons ni kweli kabisa na soko kubwa la silaha la US lipo SAUDI and UAE.Imagine ndoa yao ikivunjika itakuwaje ingawa natamani ivunjike ila yatajatimia tu.Na KWA sAUDI anaogopa due to its tyrant regime including funding of terrorism and its the country with the worst human rights in the whole world imagine mwanamke kufanya kazi mpaka aombe ruhusa kwa mume.Saudi is now working with US to overthrow the Yemen govt which infact its happening.Kuhusu US economy it will collapse ingawa sijui ni lini may be this year.Yupo mwandishi mmoja(Economist) namwaminia sana anaitwa Martin Armstrong aliandikaga kuhusu fall of Soviet Union na kweli ilidondoka na karibuni kaandika kuhusu US Financial Collapse 2016 and the story read as below:
Economist Martin Armstrong is predicting that rising resentment against the status quo as a result of economic inequality is likely to cause a serious political uprising before 2016. "It looks more and more like a serious political uprising will erupt by 2016 once the economy turns down. That is the magic ingredient. Turn the economy down and you get civil unrest and revolution,"writes Armstrong". In making the forecast, the economist cites the case of 90-year-old World War 2 veteran Arnold Abbott, who is being targeted by authorities in Fort Lauderdale for defying a newly passed city ordinance that criminalizes feeding the homeless, an example says Armstrong of how "laws in the USA have simply gone nuts." Armstrong, who correctly predicted the 1987 Black Monday crash as well as the 1998 Russian financial collapse, asserts that the downfall of the system will be its inability to gauge the anger that Americans currently feel towards their government. "You just cannot make up this stuff. And the Democrats cannot figure out that the people are getting pissed-off at who is ever in office? And what about the police?" asks Armstrong. "Is this just turning into thugs with badges who just enforce whatever law some nut-job politician writes? What if they passed a Herod type law to curb population and decree that everyone must kill their first-born. When does reason ever return to the police force these days? They no longer protect the people – they protect the politicians against the people." As we reported back in August, the U.S. Army is preparing for civil unrest in the United States. A 132-page document entitled U.S. Army Techniques Publication 3-39.33: Civil Disturbances outlines how troops may be required to deal with "unruly and violent crowds" where it is "necessary to quell riots and restore public order." Riots which rocked Ferguson, Missouri earlier this year and threaten to reignite should Officer Darren Wilson be acquitted illustrate how single events can spark sustained social unrest. However, more widespread dislocation is only likely to occur in the aftermath of an economic collapse which impacts a huge number of Americans. As we have seen in numerous countries across Europe, including in Belgium just today, crippling austerity measures combined with anemic economic growth have set the stage for violent unrest.
In a February 2013 article entitled Why the Banking Elite Want Riots in America, we outlined why the political class is perfectly content to engineer and exploit social unrest as a means of paving the way for the IMF to engage in its tried and tested method of asset stripping and looting a nation. With polls showing some 74% of Americans are already angry or dissatisfied with the government, further economic hardship could prove to be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

 

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1)Mkuu 2013,US anajua sana Saudi is funding nuclear programs in Pakistan.Na hii itajapelekea kuvunjika KWA u-alliance Kati ya Saudi na US.No matter how many years may take,u-alliance wao utajavunjika tu.Ila kwa nini Saudi anafanya hivyo?Saudi anaogopa sana Kama ile nuclear deal Kati ya Iran na P5+ 1 nations itakwenda vizuri.Deal ikienda vizuri inamaana Iran ni threat kubwa sana kwa Saudi,come what may Iran are going to develop Nuclear weapons.Iran akidevelop nuclear weapons Kummaliza Saudi considering geographical location ni rahisi sana!! Ndiyo maana Sasa hivi US & Saudia don't trust each other.

2)Sasa hivi US don't depend on Saudi oil na hiyo imeathiri sana Uhusiano wao,Pia US is on its way to overtake Saudia as the the world oil producer.Saudi kushusha bei ya mafuta siyo tu kumuumiza Iran & Russia bali ni kuiumiza US Company Shale which is using fracking technology to drill oil massively.

(3)Ma-analyst wengi Wanasema je Uhusiano Kati ya Saudi na US ukifa,Saudia atakimbilia wapi?Saudi hana pa kukimbilia zaidi ya kwenda Russia ambaye ndiyo tu anaweza kupambana na US.Je Russia atampokea?There is no way Russia atampokea considering mambo aliyoifanyia Russia KWA kushirikiana na US mfano kuiangamiza kiuchumi thru oil prices.Hapo ndiyo Saudia ataona rangi zote.

4)Je who is the real boss in controlling the Oil Prices?Is it Saudia or OPEC or US Wall Street?Hivi US anakubalije kushuka KWA bei huku kampuni zake kibao zikiathirika?Kwani US ameshindwa kucontrol oil prices?US akiamua na ushenzi wake anaweza panga oil prices na Saudia akashika adabu yake.
Iam not fond of the two countries including their alliance na siku wakiachana nitafurahi sana.

Mkuu nani kakudanganya?

 

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Mkuu nani kakudanganya?

It's just a minor error on few words missing,I meant the US don't depend much on Saudi oil like b4 since they have increased production although they still import Saudi Oil but not massively.