Rwandan rebels begin to surrender, but demand talks with Kigali

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Rwandan rebels begin to surrender, but demand talks with Kigali

Source: Reuters - Fri, 30 May 2014 10:05 PMAuthor: Reuters




* Around 100 rebels surrender in eastern Congo
* Rwanda has consistently rejected negotiations
* U.N. carrying out operations against armed groups in Congo

By Kenny Katombe


BULEUSA, Democratic Republic of Congo, May 30 (Reuters) - R wandan rebels in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo began what they claimed was the first step in disarming their fighters on Friday, but warned that continuing the process would depend on the government in Kigali agreeing to talks.

The Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR) said last month that they would "lay down their weaponry and consecrate themselves to political struggle."
About 100 fighters surrendered during a ceremony in North Kivu province, handing in weapons including some heavy artillery, according to a Reuters witness.

"With this act of good faith the international community is called to assume its responsibility to obtain a political dialogue among Rwandans," said FDLR president, General Victor Byiringiro.
Authorities in Rwanda have repeatedly rejected the possibility of negotiations with the FDLR, which Kigali considers a terrorist organisation that espouses a genocidal ideology.

Composed in part of former soldiers and Hutu militia who fled into Congo after massacring around 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus during Rwanda's 1994 genocide, the FDLR has since sought to topple the government of President Paul Kagame.

They are regularly accused of human rights abuses, including civilian massacres. And this week FDLR fighters burned homes and schools in North Kivu's Walikale district during clashes with a rival militia group, according to United Nations-sponsored radio.

Their presence along the border has also served as a pretext for Rwandan military interventions in Congo, helping fuel nearly two decades of conflict there that have killed millions.

Friday's ceremony was attended by representatives of Congo's U.N. peacekeeping mission, known as MONUSCO, the South African Development Community (SADC), and the International Conference on the Great Lakes Region.

The FDLR has on previous occasions said it was ready to disarm, only to later backtrack. And most officials remained cautious, however, and shied away from making pledges to support talks with the Rwandan government.

"There will be no negotiations with the FDLR. They have offered to surrender, and we will see if this process is effective," Congolese government spokesman Lambert Mende said.
Over 25,000 FDLR fighters have demobilized since 2002, but those numbers have slowed to a trickle in recent years. The estimated 2,000 remaining rebels have hidden themselves among communities in Congo's dense forests.

Last year, bolstered by a special Intervention Brigade with a robust mandate to carry out offensive operations, MONUSCO launched a military campaign against the remaining armed groups operating in the volatile, mineral-rich borderlands.

"We hope that the commanders join this process (of demobilization), not just the militiamen, because we have a mandate to neutralize armed groups and want to see an end to the FDLR in Congo," said one U.N. official, who asked not to be named.

(Writing by Peter Jones; Editing by Joe Bavier and Lisa Shumaker)

 
mara kadhaa wametangaza kusalimisha silaha zao bila kutekeleza, ngoja tuone safari hii.
 
Rwandan rebels begin to surrender, but demand talks with Kigali

Source: Reuters - Fri, 30 May 2014 10:05 PMAuthor: Reuters




* Around 100 rebels surrender in eastern Congo
* Rwanda has consistently rejected negotiations
* U.N. carrying out operations against armed groups in Congo

By Kenny Katombe


BULEUSA, Democratic Republic of Congo, May 30 (Reuters) - R wandan rebels in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo began what they claimed was the first step in disarming their fighters on Friday, but warned that continuing the process would depend on the government in Kigali agreeing to talks.

The Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR) said last month that they would "lay down their weaponry and consecrate themselves to political struggle."
About 100 fighters surrendered during a ceremony in North Kivu province, handing in weapons including some heavy artillery, according to a Reuters witness.

"With this act of good faith the international community is called to assume its responsibility to obtain a political dialogue among Rwandans," said FDLR president, General Victor Byiringiro.
Authorities in Rwanda have repeatedly rejected the possibility of negotiations with the FDLR, which Kigali considers a terrorist organisation that espouses a genocidal ideology.

Composed in part of former soldiers and Hutu militia who fled into Congo after massacring around 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus during Rwanda's 1994 genocide, the FDLR has since sought to topple the government of President Paul Kagame.

They are regularly accused of human rights abuses, including civilian massacres. And this week FDLR fighters burned homes and schools in North Kivu's Walikale district during clashes with a rival militia group, according to United Nations-sponsored radio.

Their presence along the border has also served as a pretext for Rwandan military interventions in Congo, helping fuel nearly two decades of conflict there that have killed millions.

Friday's ceremony was attended by representatives of Congo's U.N. peacekeeping mission, known as MONUSCO, the South African Development Community (SADC), and the International Conference on the Great Lakes Region.

The FDLR has on previous occasions said it was ready to disarm, only to later backtrack. And most officials remained cautious, however, and shied away from making pledges to support talks with the Rwandan government.

"There will be no negotiations with the FDLR. They have offered to surrender, and we will see if this process is effective," Congolese government spokesman Lambert Mende said.
Over 25,000 FDLR fighters have demobilized since 2002, but those numbers have slowed to a trickle in recent years. The estimated 2,000 remaining rebels have hidden themselves among communities in Congo's dense forests.

Last year, bolstered by a special Intervention Brigade with a robust mandate to carry out offensive operations, MONUSCO launched a military campaign against the remaining armed groups operating in the volatile, mineral-rich borderlands.

"We hope that the commanders join this process (of demobilization), not just the militiamen, because we have a mandate to neutralize armed groups and want to see an end to the FDLR in Congo," said one U.N. official, who asked not to be named.

(Writing by Peter Jones; Editing by Joe Bavier and Lisa Shumaker)


Hivi kati ya FDLR na RPF nani ni rebels?
 
Rwandan rebels begin to surrender, but demand talks with Kigali

Source: Reuters - Fri, 30 May 2014 10:05 PMAuthor: Reuters




* Around 100 rebels surrender in eastern Congo
* Rwanda has consistently rejected negotiations
* U.N. carrying out operations against armed groups in Congo

By Kenny Katombe


BULEUSA, Democratic Republic of Congo, May 30 (Reuters) - R wandan rebels in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo began what they claimed was the first step in disarming their fighters on Friday, but warned that continuing the process would depend on the government in Kigali agreeing to talks.

The Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR) said last month that they would "lay down their weaponry and consecrate themselves to political struggle."
About 100 fighters surrendered during a ceremony in North Kivu province, handing in weapons including some heavy artillery, according to a Reuters witness.

"With this act of good faith the international community is called to assume its responsibility to obtain a political dialogue among Rwandans," said FDLR president, General Victor Byiringiro.
Authorities in Rwanda have repeatedly rejected the possibility of negotiations with the FDLR, which Kigali considers a terrorist organisation that espouses a genocidal ideology.

Composed in part of former soldiers and Hutu militia who fled into Congo after massacring around 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus during Rwanda's 1994 genocide, the FDLR has since sought to topple the government of President Paul Kagame.

They are regularly accused of human rights abuses, including civilian massacres. And this week FDLR fighters burned homes and schools in North Kivu's Walikale district during clashes with a rival militia group, according to United Nations-sponsored radio.

Their presence along the border has also served as a pretext for Rwandan military interventions in Congo, helping fuel nearly two decades of conflict there that have killed millions.

Friday's ceremony was attended by representatives of Congo's U.N. peacekeeping mission, known as MONUSCO, the South African Development Community (SADC), and the International Conference on the Great Lakes Region.

The FDLR has on previous occasions said it was ready to disarm, only to later backtrack. And most officials remained cautious, however, and shied away from making pledges to support talks with the Rwandan government.

"There will be no negotiations with the FDLR. They have offered to surrender, and we will see if this process is effective," Congolese government spokesman Lambert Mende said.
Over 25,000 FDLR fighters have demobilized since 2002, but those numbers have slowed to a trickle in recent years. The estimated 2,000 remaining rebels have hidden themselves among communities in Congo's dense forests.

Last year, bolstered by a special Intervention Brigade with a robust mandate to carry out offensive operations, MONUSCO launched a military campaign against the remaining armed groups operating in the volatile, mineral-rich borderlands.

"We hope that the commanders join this process (of demobilization), not just the militiamen, because we have a mandate to neutralize armed groups and want to see an end to the FDLR in Congo," said one U.N. official, who asked not to be named.

(Writing by Peter Jones; Editing by Joe Bavier and Lisa Shumaker)


cc jMali, rushasha, mokala 1989 aka Majeshi 1981...

No negotiations with terrorist groups. NEVER.
 
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cc jMali, rushasha, mokala 1989 aka Majeshi 1981...

No negotiations with terrorist groups. NEVER.

we know that Kagame will never negotiate with FDLR. Na hapo ndipo pazuri, FDLR walikuw na silaha kwa sababu everytime they disarm, kagame sends a 'rebel' group to finish them, CNDP, M23..., this time because the world is focused on eastern DRC, haiwezekani kupenyeza tena RDF, so the Hutu refugees and their families are safe, ndio maana this time wanajiamini kuwa tayari kupokonywa silaha.
FDLR becoming a non-armed political party kutaifanya jumuiya ya kimataifa kuikubali zaidi na kuifanya jumuiya hiyo hiyo kumshangaa kagame on his stance...freedom is coming to Rwanda, watch this space!
cc: JustDoItNow
 
we know that Kagame will never negotiate with FDLR. Na hapo ndipo pazuri, FDLR walikuw na silaha kwa sababu everytime they disarm, kagame sends a 'rebel' group to finish them, CNDP, M23..., this time because the world is focused on eastern DRC, haiwezekani kupenyeza tena RDF, so the Hutu refugees and their families are safe, ndio maana this time wanajiamini kuwa tayari kupokonywa silaha.
FDLR becoming a non-armed political party kutaifanya jumuiya ya kimataifa kuikubali zaidi na kuifanya jumuiya hiyo hiyo kumshangaa kagame on his stance...freedom is coming to Rwanda, watch this space!
cc: JustDoItNow
Peace can only come to Rwanda if and only if Rwandans are given equal access to the rwandan cake. In otherwords they have to be recognised as true citizens of their land and be allowed to come back to Rwanda to build together with others their country. If that is not done, peace is not coming soon but expect some more rebel groups to be formed
 
we know that Kagame will never negotiate with FDLR. Na hapo ndipo pazuri, FDLR walikuw na silaha kwa sababu everytime they disarm, kagame sends a 'rebel' group to finish them, CNDP, M23..., this time because the world is focused on eastern DRC, haiwezekani kupenyeza tena RDF, so the Hutu refugees and their families are safe, ndio maana this time wanajiamini kuwa tayari kupokonywa silaha.
FDLR becoming a non-armed political party kutaifanya jumuiya ya kimataifa kuikubali zaidi na kuifanya jumuiya hiyo hiyo kumshangaa kagame on his stance...freedom is coming to Rwanda, watch this space!
cc: JustDoItNow

hahaha....freedom mara ngapi? chukua jembe ukalime. lol
 
This what we wanted our "man" in Dar es Salaam to tell them instead of him mounting diplomatic tension between Dodoma and Kigali.
 
Kagame anakuwa hana cha muhimu zaidi ya kukubali kuongea na waasi
 
we know that Kagame will never negotiate with FDLR. Na hapo ndipo pazuri, FDLR walikuw na silaha kwa sababu everytime they disarm, kagame sends a 'rebel' group to finish them, CNDP, M23..., this time because the world is focused on eastern DRC, haiwezekani kupenyeza tena RDF, so the Hutu refugees and their families are safe, ndio maana this time wanajiamini kuwa tayari kupokonywa silaha.
FDLR becoming a non-armed political party kutaifanya jumuiya ya kimataifa kuikubali zaidi na kuifanya jumuiya hiyo hiyo kumshangaa kagame on his stance...freedom is coming to Rwanda, watch this space!
cc: JustDoItNow

Jmali pole sana,always pk na RWANDA watakua washindi,mmesema 250000 FDLR waliisha jisalimisha na wote wako rwanda,sasa hao 2000 ndio wataiweka PRF katika meza ya mazungumuzo?kwataarifa yako rwanda iko tayari kuwapokea kama wengine,na kama wanafikiri international community inaweza ishinikiza serikali ya kigali kukaa chini na hao wauaji sahau sana,na wakifikiria vita huo ubavu hawana,sasa ni mawili waende kwao rwanda kwa amani au tanzania iwape hifadhi kama kawaida yao,kama vile wanavyo kuhifadhi wewe jmali.
 
Peace can only come to Rwanda if and only if Rwandans are given equal access to the rwandan cake. In otherwords they have to be recognised as true citizens of their land and be allowed to come back to Rwanda to build together with others their country. If that is not done, peace is not coming soon but expect some more rebel groups to be formed

Hata tanzania yenyewe huwezi ku share cake kama huimbi nyimbo ya CCM,hata kwa mungu mbinguni sio wote wata upata uzima wa milele isipo kua ukiyafuata na kuyatenda yaliyo katika neno la bwana,sasa hao 25000 FDLR waliokubali kufuata ya kigali ndio wanakula kwa cake,sasa hao 2000 wasiotaka ya kigali wana hitaji kufuata matakwa ya kigali bila hivyo wasahau hiyo cake,huo ndio ukweli hata kwa mungu ndio hivyo.
 
Jmali pole sana,always pk na RWANDA watakua washindi,mmesema 250000 FDLR waliisha jisalimisha na wote wako rwanda,sasa hao 2000 ndio wataiweka PRF katika meza ya mazungumuzo?kwataarifa yako rwanda iko tayari kuwapokea kama wengine,na kama wanafikiri international community inaweza ishinikiza serikali ya kigali kukaa chini na hao wauaji sahau sana,na wakifikiria vita huo ubavu hawana,sasa ni mawili waende kwao rwanda kwa amani au tanzania iwape hifadhi kama kawaida yao,kama vile wanavyo kuhifadhi wewe jmali.

Do you really believe kagame's stats when it comes to his adversaries? Hivi why unadhani kama FDLR wako wachache kihivyo PK kila siku anawaogopa? kama wako wachache kihivyo why are they the biggest threat to kagame today? kila siku FDLR this, FDLR that...
Halafu kumbuka kuwa FDLR ni chama cha siasa kwanza, silaha baadae, kwa hiyo hata wakiwa wawili, nguvu yao ni kukubalika na wananchi wa Rwanda. Ndio maana the most politically strong person today in Rwanda is still victoire ingabire, wakifuatiwa na kundi la kina Nyamwasa, Rudasingwa na kina Himbara. Not so many people but....
 
Do you really believe kagame's stats when it comes to his adversaries? Hivi why unadhani kama FDLR wako wachache kihivyo PK kila siku anawaogopa? kama wako wachache kihivyo why are they the biggest threat to kagame today? kila siku FDLR this, FDLR that...
Halafu kumbuka kuwa FDLR ni chama cha siasa kwanza, silaha baadae, kwa hiyo hata wakiwa wawili, nguvu yao ni kukubalika na wananchi wa Rwanda. Ndio maana the most politically strong person today in Rwanda is still victoire ingabire, wakifuatiwa na kundi la kina Nyamwasa, Rudasingwa na kina Himbara. Not so many people but....

hahahahahahahaha! mnakuja taratibuuu. njooni mjisajili kama chama tuone kama mtapata kura hata moja. lol....mfa maji...
 
hahahahahahahaha! mnakuja taratibuuu. njooni mjisajili kama chama tuone kama mtapata kura hata moja. lol....mfa maji...

Mbona unawatisha???!!!!!???? Si watapiga kampeni halafu waache wananchi waamue kwenye sanduku LA kura? Msiwatishe ila wakaribisheni kwenye ushindani.
 
hahahahahahahaha! mnakuja taratibuuu. njooni mjisajili kama chama tuone kama mtapata kura hata moja. lol....mfa maji...

Mimi sidhani kama FDLR wanaweza kurudi under current circumstances, kwa sababu political space Rwanda imefungwa. Kinachoongelewa ni disarmament sio kurudi. Bado FDLR wataendelea kufanya siasa nje ya Rwanda mpaka hapo jumuiya ya kimataifa itakaposhinikiza Rwanda kubadili conditions, halafu ndio watarudi.
Of course kagame (and you🙂) mngependa FDLR warudi ili muwape kesi zenu za hovyo hovyo kama wanavyopewa wapinzani wengine, muwauwe n.k. I dont think FDLR are that foolish. What i think FDLR will do is seek international support. Kagame knows this ndio maana anaiandama Tanzania for simply suggesting talks, kwani anafahamu talks will eventually lead to proper elections overseen by the international community, elections which he can not interfere with....and then....you get the picture.
 
Mimi sidhani kama FDLR wanaweza kurudi under current circumstances, kwa sababu political space Rwanda imefungwa. Kinachoongelewa ni disarmament sio kurudi. Bado FDLR wataendelea kufanya siasa nje ya Rwanda mpaka hapo jumuiya ya kimataifa itakaposhinikiza Rwanda kubadili conditions, halafu ndio watarudi.
Of course kagame (and you🙂) mngependa FDLR warudi ili muwape kesi zenu za hovyo hovyo kama wanavyopewa wapinzani wengine, muwauwe n.k. I dont think FDLR are that foolish. What i think FDLR will do is seek international support. Kagame knows this ndio maana anaiandama Tanzania for simply suggesting talks, kwani anafahamu talks will eventually lead to proper elections overseen by the international community, elections which he can not interfere with....and then....you get the picture.

You are allowed to dream....just make sure it doesn't turn out to be a nightmare. Elections zote zimesimamiwa na international observeres wakiwemo maswahiba wenu kutoka SADC. wote wamepitisha uchaguzi wakisema ulikuwa wa haki. Raisi anakubalika vibaya sana. His tenure ina matunda for all of you to see. Sisi hatuna mipango kwenye makabrasha. We plan and we implement and every year we are accountable for our promises to the citizens. Everything is transparent and those who do not deliver are shown the door. So, raisi wetu anakubalika aisee, ni nyie mlioko huko ambao hammunyimi usingizi ndio mna makelele mengi but we understand you. Kawaida ili binadamu aweze kuficha mapungufu yake lazima amtafute mchawi wake. Mchawi wenu ni Kagame. Poleni sana.
 
Hata tanzania yenyewe huwezi ku share cake kama huimbi nyimbo ya CCM,hata kwa mungu mbinguni sio wote wata upata uzima wa milele isipo kua ukiyafuata na kuyatenda yaliyo katika neno la bwana,sasa hao 25000 FDLR waliokubali kufuata ya kigali ndio wanakula kwa cake,sasa hao 2000 wasiotaka ya kigali wana hitaji kufuata matakwa ya kigali bila hivyo wasahau hiyo cake,huo ndio ukweli hata kwa mungu ndio hivyo.
Mukamasimba, that is exactly what wanted to say,to be a citizen of a certain country means you must fulfill your constitutional obligation as a citizen, otherwise you will need a visa or residence permit to live in that country...and follow what foreigners are allowed to do in that particular country.

But to think that people can still remain out of their country and think of peace, it is impossible, you all know why RPF had to fight from Uganda, simply because the then government did not negotiate earlier and when they were force by international community pressure, they resorted to genocide...a heinous crime not to be forgotten by the world community!!!!
 
Mukamasimba, that is exactly what wanted to say,to be a citizen of a certain country means you must fulfill your constitutional obligation as a citizen, otherwise you will need a visa or residence permit to live in that country...and follow what foreigners are allowed to do in that particular country.

But to think that people can still remain out of their country and think of peace, it is impossible, you all know why RPF had to fight from Uganda, simply because the then government did not negotiate earlier and when they were force by international community pressure, they resorted to genocide...a heinous crime not to be forgotten by the world community!!!!

cc jMali
 
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watu washaweka silaha chini wanataka mazungumzo hataki. anataka nini?? p.u .mb.avu
 
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