Rwanda - Tanzania Tensions Flare Again

Rwanda - Tanzania Tensions Flare Again

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Tensions flared up again over the weekend between Rwanda and Tanzania after it emerged that President Jakaya Kikwete was hosting at his private residence Rwandan dissidents in Diaspora including rebel FDLR commanders.
By Chimp Investigations Team 5 hours 54 minutes ago
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Kagame and Kikwete at a meeting in Kampala in 2013 The alleged political and ideological ties between Kikwete and President Paul Kagames enemies are emerging as the latest flash point between the two countries, whose relations have deteriorated sharply in recent months.


Impeccable sources said two high ranking members of Rwanda National Congress (RNC) - Theogene Rudasingwa (Coordinator) and Condo Gervais were joined by FDLR Executive Secretary Lt Col Wilson Irategeka and the operations commander, Col Hamadi, in Tanzania last week for talks.


It remains unclear why the group decided to convene in the East African country but a long-lingering argument that Kikwete is a sympathiser of the Rwandan opposition forces has since flared up with new intensity since the Tanzanian leader told a meeting on the sideline of the African Union Summit in Ethiopia last year that Kigali should hold talks with the terrorist FDLR.


ADF is attacking Uganda and FDRL is doing the same to Rwanda so efforts should be made to end such attacks. Talks should be held between governments and rebels hiding in the DRC where they launch attacks against their countries of origin. Military operations against the rebels will not yield fruit, said Kikwete.


Rwandas Foreign Affairs Minister swiftly made a counterattack, describing Kikwetes statements as aberrant and shocking.


Those who think that Rwanda today should sit down at the negotiating table with FDLR simply dont know what they are talking about, charged Mushikiwabo in an interview with Radio France Internationale (RFI).


Sources who preferred anonymity so as to speak freely further told this website that the two delegations of FDLR and RNC were received in Dar es Salaam on Thursday evening.

This was just a few days after former Rwanda Premier, Faustin Twagiramungu, was hosted in Tanzania. Twagiramungu recently said his party, RDI Rwanda Rwiza, would remove Kagame from office by force of arms.

However, in a statement seen by Chimpreports, Irategeka said FDLR leadership is saddened by the use of the president of Republic of Tanzanias name HE. Jakaya Kikwete, by certain entities, or individuals for their unknown agendas. FDLR entire leadership is based in Eastern DRC, and has no representation in Tanzania nor holds any foreign passport.



The developments come hardly a month after RNC founder Patrick Karegeya was found dead at hotel in Johannesburg.
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Theogene Rudasingwa
It is widely thought that RNC has been struggling with internal squabbles emanating from mistrust and divergent views on what method should be used to remove President Paul Kagame from power.


While moderates believe in an uprising from within Rwanda, some on the extreme end are advocating for war.


Sources said FDLR supply lines have been reopened, with the militia, whose ideology and leadership led to the 1994 genocide, receiving plenty of military logistics at its bases in the Democratic Republic of Congo.


Towards the end of 2013, the government of Rwanda alerted the United States, United Nations, UK and countries in the Great Lakes region of an impending invasion of Rwanda by militants in DRC, a military plan that reportedly has the blessing of individuals in France and hostile countries.


Rwanda officials further said that some members in the UN Force Intervention Brigade were in bed with FDLR instead of fighting the negative force as required by the UN mandate.


The UN brigade that fought and defeated the M23 comprised soldiers from Malawi, South Africa and Tanzania.


Matter of priority


The FDLR is considered a national security threat to Rwanda.


At a recent meeting, President Kagame told Russell Feingold, the US Special Envoy for the Great Lakes Region of Africa and DRC that the genocidal militia must be firmly dealt with as a matter of priority.


Earlier, without mentioning Kikwete, the Rwandan leader accused his Tanzanian counterpart of making reckless remarks about FDLR.


When people continue to uphold the genocide ideology, it is a reminder that the path ahead is still long, Kagame told the Rwanda Patriotic Front (RPF) National Executive Committee meeting in Kigali in 2013.


We cannot take anything for granted. For Rwanda, this is not just about a discussion. The consequences are a death or life issue for Rwanda, he added.


He further noted that talk of negotiations with FDLR was evidence of those who have the luxury of speaking but suffer no consequences.


Kagame said then that speaking casually and calling on us to negotiate with the killers of our people is utter nonsense.


Speaking at the graduation ceremony of 45 army officers at the Rwanda Defence Forces Staff and Command College last year, Kagame described Kikwetes idea as dancing on the mass graves of our people.


Though he did not mention Kikwete, Kagame maintained proposals that Rwanda should hold talks with FDLR were premised on ignorance and ideological problems.





I kept quiet for the contempt I have for it (FDLR talks) because I thought it was utter nonsense spoken out of ignorance. We must be left to live our lives the way Rwandans want to live them, charged Kagame. He further said RPF did not seek revenge when it had every reason to be tempted...I don't think anybody should be having issues with us.



- See more at: http://chimpreports.com/index.php/s...ensions-flare-again.html#sthash.L7CI23jV.dpuf


Pia, soma: Kagame tells Kikwete "I will hit you......"
 
PK hebu mwache raisi wetu basi mbona hivyo aise !!
Ujue unachokitafuta ni kikubwa zaidi ya hizi propoganda unazozipiga
 
Kuna watu wanapenda 'Kama humwogopi piga hapa', sijui kwa faida ya nani?
Mtikila alimwambia JK kuwa PK kasambaza watu wake kila kona nyeti nchini yeye akampuuza. Jambo la ajabu, mgeni katua kisiri siri, tayari habari zimeshafika Kigali. PK kumdhihirishia JK ule msemo wa crdb bank; ULIPO TUPO. Sasa kazi kwake JK.
 
Those stupid utterance have a good or bad end. you will never, never dictate your discriminatory ideology and practice to TANZANIA. You can flare whatever at the end of everything Tanzania does not receive orders from Kigali. As for eac you made a wrong decision to think that will influence Tanzania to be sympathetic to your criminal course
 
Tanzania hima himaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
Bado kidogo tu ningesema ninachokijua lakini sisemi..jinga hili
 
Haya mambo ni magumu sana kujua ukweli wake mpaka baadae sana. Walipita hapa hapa Tz, hawa kina PK, M7, Kabila nk wakipata support yetu. Naaamini by then, kama viongozi wa Congo (Mobutu) na hata wa Uganda wangelalamika kuwa tuna host enemies wao, tungekataa kata kata!
 

“ADF is attacking Uganda and FDRL is doing the same to Rwanda so efforts should be made to end such attacks. Talks should be held between governments and rebels hiding in the DRC where they launch attacks against their countries of origin. Military operations against the rebels will not yield fruit,” said Kikwete.
kiongozi anayeweza kuchukizwa na kauli jenzi kama hii basi lazima atakuwa ni kiongozi wa ajabu! Kwamba hawa waasi wanashambulia nchi zao za asili, juhudi zifanyike kuzngumza ili kumaliza hii hali coz' risasi zimeshindwa kutoa suluhu; bado mtu anakuja juu! Khaaa, kweli Kagame ni mpenda vita!
Rwanda’s Foreign Affairs Minister swiftly made a counterattack, describing Kikwete’s statements as “aberrant” and “shocking.”
“Those who think that Rwanda today should sit down at the negotiating table with FDLR simply don’t know what they are talking about,” charged Mushikiwabo in an interview with Radio France Internationale (RFI).
So, ikiwa wanaotaka mazungumzo hawafahamu wanachoongea, ina maana huyu Waziri anaamini suluhu ni vita!! Ajabu sana hii...ama kweli Kagame Regime should go, not tomorrow, but instantly! Wayahudi, pamoja na maguvu yao yote na uwezo wao usiopingika hata chembe kwenye masuala ya kijeshi, intelijensia, na mengine yote kama hayo; bado maguvu hayo yameshindwa kabisa kutatua mzozo wake na kataifa hoahae Palestina! Lakini huyu mtu na utawala wake bado hadi karne ya 21 wanaamini maguvu ndiyo suluhisho!! Narudia tena hapa. Sababu kubwa inayomfanya Kagame asitake mazungumzo na FDLR ni ukweli kwamba FDLR inawakilisha Wahutu ambao ni 80% ya Wanyarwanda wote. Kufanya nao mazungumzo FDLR ni kama kuwakalibisha kufanya siasa ndani ya Rwanda! Leo mazungumzo yakifanikiwa na FDLR kugeuka kuwa chama cha siasa; huo ndo utakuwa mwisho wa RPF kuongoza! Ikiwa hata hapa Tanzania kwenye misuguano midogo midogo ya kijamii bado kuna watu wanapiga kura kwa kuangalia kabila na dini; seuze Rwanda ambako ukabila unaondolewa kwa force badala ya utashi wa Wanyarwanda kubaini kwamba ukabila sio issue?

Kagame na puppets wake aache kudanganya Wanyarwanda! Hataki kufanya mazungumzo na FDLR simply because anaogopa FDLR kubadilika na kuwa chama cha kisiasa ambacho hatakuwa na ubavu wa kushindana nacho kwenye sanduku la kura!
c.c JokaKuu, Nguruvi3, jMali.
 
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Haya mambo ni magumu sana kujua ukweli wake mpaka baadae sana. Walipita hapa hapa Tz, hawa kina PK, M7, Kabila nk wakipata support yetu. Naaamini by then, kama viongozi wa Congo (Mobutu) na hata wa Uganda wangelalamika kuwa tuna host enemies wao, tungekataa kata kata!
Mkuki kwa nguruwe....kama wao waliweza kuingia madarakani kutokea ardhi za kigeni basi wasione taabu kutolewa kutokea huko huko! Lakini yote tisa, kama nilivyosema hapo juu, Kagame anawaogopa FDLR simply because kufanya nao mazungumzo ni kama kuwakaribisha kwenye siasa za Rwanda! Kuikaribisha FDLR kwenye siasa za Rwanda, ni kuhatarisha utawala wa RPF.
 
FDLR has an international acclaim as a Terrorist group, President Kikwete should be careful with this, but we should not intervene in domestic affairs of a sovereign state.
Hao Rwanda wanaolalamika kila siku ambao hakuna mjadala kwamba wana-intervene DRC's domestic affairs...je, DRC sio sovereign state? Kagame ni tatizo katika ukanda huu...huwezi kushauriwa kufanya mazungumzo kumaliza mizozo halafu unakuja juu! Kama anadhani AK47 ndio suluhisho, kwanini hamalizi basi? For how long is he going to end this using AK 47? By the way, who named FDLR kwamba ni terrorist group? US, or? Huyo US mwenyewe ambae ni hodari kwa kuwa-brand wenzake kwamba ni magaidi mbona aliomba kufanyika kwa mazungumzo na Taliban? Is Taliban no longer terrorist group? Hivi kuna gaidi ukanda huu zaidi ya Kagame?
 
Huyu Kagame sasa anaweweseka na anatafuta pa kushikia sasa.. Inaonekana kitendo cha kumuua yule mpinzani wake kule South Africa kime-backfire sasa ni kuhamisha attention..! JK ana mabovu yake but sio hii anayomsingizia..
 
Kagame will make a terrible mistake if he tries to play foul with Tanzania. That will be the beginning of the end of his tenure in the office. He is not the KING of Great Lakes Region!!!
He's not that stupid, hawezi kujaribu hicho kitu hata siku moja...ataendelea hivyo hivyo tu ku-mess na DRC affairs na kuhusu Tanzania atabaki tu kubwekea gizani. Yeye si bingwa wa assassination, JK yule pale wala hapatikani kwa taabu kama hao aliowaua.
 
kiongozi anayeweza kuchukizwa na kauli jenzi kama hii basi lazima atakuwa ni kiongozi wa ajabu! Kwamba hawa waasi wanashambulia nchi zao za asili, juhudi zifanyike kuzngumza ili kumaliza hii hali coz' risasi zimeshindwa kutoa suluhu; bado mtu anakuja juu! Khaaa, kweli Kagame ni mpenda vita! So, ikiwa wanaotaka mazungumzo hawafahamu wanachoongea, ina maana huyu Waziri anaamini suluhu ni vita!! Ajabu sana hii...ama kweli Kagame Regime should go, not tomorrow, but instantly! Wayahudi, pamoja na maguvu yao yote na uwezo wao usiopingika hata chembe kwenye masuala ya kijeshi, intelijensia, na mengine yote kama hayo; bado maguvu hayo yameshindwa kabisa kutatua mzozo wake na kataifa hoahae Palestina! Lakini huyu mtu na utawala wake bado hadi karne ya 21 wanaamini maguvu ndiyo suluhisho!! Narudia tena hapa. Sababu kubwa inayomfanya Kagame asitake mazungumzo na FDLR ni ukweli kwamba FDLR inawakilisha Wahutu ambao ni 80% ya Wanyarwanda wote. Kufanya nao mazungumzo FDLR ni kama kuwakalibisha kufanya siasa ndani ya Rwanda! Leo mazungumzo yakifanikiwa na FDLR kugeuka kuwa chama cha siasa; huo ndo utakuwa mwisho wa RPF kuongoza! Ikiwa hata hapa Tanzania kwenye misuguano midogo midogo ya kijamii bado kuna watu wanapiga kura kwa kuangalia kabila na dini; seuze Rwanda ambako ukabila unaondolewa kwa force badala ya utashi wa Wanyarwanda kubaini kwamba ukabila sio issue?

Kagame na puppets wake aache kudanganya Wanyarwanda! Hataki kufanya mazungumzo na FDLR simply because anaogopa FDLR kubadilika na kuwa chama cha kisiasa ambacho hatakuwa na ubavu wa kushindana nacho kwenye sanduku la kura!
c.c JokaKuu, Nguruvi3, jMali.

Ubarikiwe sana Comrade NasDaz sasa nimeanza kupata picha.
 
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Huyu Kagame sasa anaweweseka na anatafuta pa kushikia sasa.. Inaonekana kitendo cha kumuua yule mpinzani wake kule South Africa kime-backfire sasa ni kuhamisha attention..! JK ana mabovu yake but sio hii anayomsingizia..
Mbaya zaidi ni kwamba anatafuta pa kushikia wakati amefumba macho...kinachofuata hapo ni kugusa nyaya za umeme ambazo hazipo insulated huku zikiwa ni high voltage...
 
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