Ramani vyumba 3 self +(study room, public toilet, store,dinning, sebule)

[MTAZAMO]

Hakuna graduate Wa Ardhi aliyesoma structural engineering kwa hiyo past three years unayosema.......we we umesoma environmental engineering...... Achana na majengo mkuu.....

hahahaha........

 

[Chief Lugina]

We muongo. Miaka 3 bado ni graduate Engineer tu. Unaonekana hauko competent

 

[MWENDAKULIMA]

We muongo. Miaka 3 bado ni graduate Engineer tu. Unaonekana hauko competent

Ndugu unafahamu unachokiandika? personnally ilinichukua miaka 5 kuamua kuwa registered as a professional engineer back then it made no big difference being a graduate or professional. Kwa hiyo si lazima baada ya miaka 3 lazima every engineer awe ameshakuwa registered as a professional ni muhimu kufahamu kuwa

Ili kuwa registered as a professional engineer one has to get exposed to design,supervision and management aspects ( siku hizi ni soko huria mtu anaweza kuwa anafanya na contrcator/supervision and he/she is happy with the payment then asihangaike na hizo aspects nyingine) by the time anafikiria kuwa registered miaka 4 imeshapita utamuita huyo ni incompetent simply because he/she isn't registered in 3 years after graduation?

 

[srinavas]

inaonekana we jamaa ni mkurupukaji mi nimesema mimi ni graduate engineer niliyekuwa Registared ERB nadhani unajua before kuwa registared engineer lazima uwe registared as graduate engineer pia Kuna Environmental Engineer Ardhi iko long time pale Ardhi before haijaja civil engineering ambayo sisi tumeiacha ndo inaanza.

Kwa hiyo wewe ni environmental engineer?

 

[MWENDAKULIMA]

thanks for your perspective

What programme do you use sajosojo? if you don't mind PM me your phone number,i need one plan but another thing what if i need a little bit tweaking on it to accomodate my needs? will it be free/how much are you going to charge? I'm a structural engineer myself and no time for architectural chores.

NB:
Tweaking to perfection might entail dimensional changes

 

[srinavas]

Pata ramani hii kwa shilling laki moja tu(100,000) contact 0758929087

Wewe nenda kasajiliwe na NEMC tu , ufanye EIA na ENVIRONMENTAL AUDITING. haya mambo waachie wenyewe

 

[MWENDAKULIMA]

Oops!! samahani sikuiona number yako pale juu sajosojo. Nisamehe bure ndugu,naichukua nitakucheki nitakapokuwa na nafasi

 

[Criterion]

Na wewe acha ku exaggerate na kuudanganya watu kwamba value ya kazi na competence inapimwa kwa prices zake.

Usitake kuwakaririsha watu kwamba ujenzi wa nyumba ni milions of loans,ama long term savings as if uzoefu wako ndiyo standard ya dunia.

Pamoja na arguments zako kuhusu professionalism zake na academic qualifications, ulipaswa pia kukubali kwamba mtu anapanga bei kwa misingi mingi sana na si ramani za nyumba zote zina value sawa.

Unajuaje kama ame target low income earners ambao hawana uwezo kama unavyoota?

Unajuaje kama anafanya marketing ili kujipambanua kwa watanzania walio wengi kuliko hao unaowasema wewe wenye ku access housing loans kutoka banks?

Unajua anatumia gharama gani katika kila ramani moja ili useme ana charge low? Au umekariri kwamba watu wanaopata super profits ndiyo wataalamu?


Je kama ni subsidized project yenye lengo maalumu ambapo hawezi tu kusema moja kwa moja kwa kuongopa msongamano na kupata watu wasio na hata seriousness katika ramani zile?

Kwa mtu asiye endeshwa na self pride, arrogance na dharau, hawezi kukandia kazi ya mtu kwa kuwa eti ana charge bei ndogo.. Halafu eti unasema "usichukulie rahisi hivyo", utafikiri watu wote wana hizo laki za ramani na ama umeshajua yeye ameingia sokoni bila ku pilot test.

Samahani sana kwa hiyo statement yako haijafurahisha, labda ungishia tu kwenye elimu na taaluma, lakin kwenye bei, umekariri!.

acha kupotosha watu.
1.
4. nafkir jipange. architectural consultancy sio kirahisi kama ivo. kuweka picha na kujitangaza unafanya kazi kwa laki 1 tu. watu wanafanya real investments, wanaweka milliotns from loans, long time savings kujenga nyumba, usichukulie rahisi ivo.
5. nafkir japo nimekufungua macho, tafadhali naomba usitumie taarifa hizi kuzidi kudanganya wengine.

 

[Kinyau]

inaonekana we jamaa ni mkurupukaji mi nimesema mimi ni graduate engineer niliyekuwa Registared ERB nadhani unajua before kuwa registared engineer lazima uwe registared as graduate engineer pia Kuna Environmental Engineer Ardhi iko long time pale Ardhi before haijaja civil engineering ambayo sisi tumeiacha ndo inaanza.

Si umjibu hoja kipengele kwa kipengele wasomaji tuchambue mbichi na mbivu mkuu: wewe ni Engineer in what? registered by ERB which year ? tujibu tu haya

 

[Kinyau]

Na wewe acha ku exaggerate na kuudanganya watu kwamba value ya kazi na competence inapimwa kwa prices zake.

Usitake kuwakaririsha watu kwamba ujenzi wa nyumba ni milions of loans,ama long term savings as if uzoefu wako ndiyo standard ya dunia.

Pamoja na arguments zako kuhusu professionalism zake na academic qualifications, ulipaswa pia kukubali kwamba mtu anapanga bei kwa misingi mingi sana na si ramani za nyumba zote zina value sawa.

Unajuaje kama ame target low income earners ambao hawana uwezo kama unavyoota?

Unajuaje kama anafanya marketing ili kujipambanua kwa watanzania walio wengi kuliko hao unaowasema wewe wenye ku access housing loans kutoka banks?

Unajua anatumia gharama gani katika kila ramani moja ili useme ana charge low? Au umekariri kwamba watu wanaopata super profits ndiyo wataalamu?


Je kama ni subsidized project yenye lengo maalumu ambapo hawezi tu kusema moja kwa moja kwa kuongopa msongamano na kupata watu wasio na hata seriousness katika ramani zile?

Kwa mtu asiye endeshwa na self pride, arrogance na dharau, hawezi kukandia kazi ya mtu kwa kuwa eti ana charge bei ndogo.. Halafu eti unasema "usichukulie rahisi hivyo", utafikiri watu wote wana hizo laki za ramani na ama umeshajua yeye ameingia sokoni bila ku pilot test.

Samahani sana kwa hiyo statement yako haijafurahisha, labda ungishia tu kwenye elimu na taaluma, lakin kwenye bei, umekariri!.

Mkuu maybe this is not your league to play: Nyumba zote za middle income earners zinatumia millions of money - sikuhizi hata banda la kuku ni zaidi ya milioni. The point is after saving or morgaging all those millions you definately want to get it right. Hii ndio dhana ya mtaalamu mwenzake kutoa angalizo hapa.

Na kama unafuata kanuni za ujenzi (bahati mbaya manispaa zetu hazina means ya kuaudit) ni lazima upeleke mchoro uliochorwa na mtu mwenye taaluma ya kutambulika . Binafsi pia kwa vibanda vyangu vya kawaida sijaona mtu anajisell this low labda kama unajenga ka jumba ambako huna majasho nako wala hujainvest nacho vya kutosha. Its like you wanting to buy a car and someone offers a ferari for 5M TSH , you must raise an eyebrow.

Na tatu it was just a caution; so take it at your own risk or leave it .

 

[Kyatsvapi]

investa.tz
sio vizuri kuhumu watu usio wajua, na mimi si mwanafunzi wa AutoCAD wa nyumbani kama unavyotaka kuwaaminisha watu bali mimi ni graduate engineer niliyesajiliwa na ERB kutoka chuo kikuu cha Ardhi mwenye uzoefu wa miaka 3 katika fani ya hii.

Mkuu,

Heshima mbele.
Mbona kama uzoefu uliousema na hiyo ramani kama vinapishana?
Samahani lakini. Ni mtizamo wangu tu...

 

[Criterion]

Ninatamani ungekuwa mtulivu kabla ya kurespond bila kuelewa nilichosema.

Unaongelea middle earners, mimi nilisema low earners.

Unaongea habari ya nyumba, mimi naongelea habari ya mchoro.

Huja consider other posibilities ambazo mwenye offer hajaziongelea zinazoweza ku lower price. Unataka kusema nini? Kwamba sikai Tanzania ama sifahamu pricing ama sina nyumba ama sifahamu values za nyumba mbali mbali? Unataka kkusema michoro yote inakwenda kwenye hizo millions?

Tafadhali kiongozi naomba uwe realistic lakini pia usome uelewa hoja yangu.

Mkuu maybe this is not your league to play: Nyumba zote za middle income earners zinatumia millions of money - sikuhizi hata banda la kuku ni zaidi ya milioni. The point is after saving or morgaging all those millions you definately want to get it right. Hii ndio dhana ya mtaalamu mwenzake kutoa angalizo hapa.

Na kama unafuata kanuni za ujenzi (bahati mbaya manispaa zetu hazina means ya kuaudit) ni lazima upeleke mchoro uliochorwa na mtu mwenye taaluma ya kutambulika . Binafsi pia kwa vibanda vyangu vya kawaida sijaona mtu anajisell this low labda kama unajenga ka jumba ambako huna majasho nako wala hujainvest nacho vya kutosha. Its like you wanting to buy a car and someone offers a ferari for 5M TSH , you must raise an eyebrow.

Na tatu it was just a caution; so take it at your own risk or leave it .

 

[Inside10]

acha kupotosha watu.
1. graduate engineer kutoka chuo cha ardhi: chuo cha ardhi kimeanza kufundisha course ya civil engineering katika department ya Building economics juzi tu, na graduate kwa kwanza ni mwaka huu yani november 2014 ilifanyika diamond jubilee yani graduation ceremony.
2. usajili ERB: ili uwe umesajiliwa erb moja ya vigezo ni muda usiopungua miaka mitatu, na kwa civil/structural engineer mara nyingi uwe kwenye firm ya ujenzi au engineering consultancy. kama umesoma ardhi sijui umesajiliwa lini maana umemaliza juzi november
4. a registered civil/structural engineer ni mhitimu na msajiliwa katika taaluma ya engineering, architecture ni field nyingine na wanaiheshimu, na kufanya kazi pamoja na architects. registered engineer hawezi kua na hadhi ya laki moja. pia sijui we engineer yupi.. structural, civil, mechanical, ict etc.
4. nafkir jipange. architectural consultancy sio kirahisi kama ivo. kuweka picha na kujitangaza unafanya kazi kwa laki 1 tu. watu wanafanya real investments, wanaweka millions from loans, long time savings kujenga nyumba, usichukulie rahisi ivo.
5. nafkir japo nimekufungua macho, tafadhali naomba usitumie taarifa hizi kuzidi kudanganya wengine.

asanteni cejo na invest.tz sasa mmenipa mwanga zaidi.

 

[Who Cares?]

acha kupotosha watu.
1. graduate engineer kutoka chuo cha ardhi: chuo cha ardhi kimeanza kufundisha course ya civil engineering katika department ya Building economics juzi tu, na graduate kwa kwanza ni mwaka huu yani november 2014 ilifanyika diamond jubilee yani graduation ceremony.
2. usajili ERB: ili uwe umesajiliwa erb moja ya vigezo ni muda usiopungua miaka mitatu, na kwa civil/structural engineer mara nyingi uwe kwenye firm ya ujenzi au engineering consultancy. kama umesoma ardhi sijui umesajiliwa lini maana umemaliza juzi november
4. a registered civil/structural engineer ni mhitimu na msajiliwa katika taaluma ya engineering, architecture ni field nyingine na wanaiheshimu, na kufanya kazi pamoja na architects. registered engineer hawezi kua na hadhi ya laki moja. pia sijui we engineer yupi.. structural, civil, mechanical, ict etc.
4. nafkir jipange. architectural consultancy sio kirahisi kama ivo. kuweka picha na kujitangaza unafanya kazi kwa laki 1 tu. watu wanafanya real investments, wanaweka millions from loans, long time savings kujenga nyumba, usichukulie rahisi ivo.
5. nafkir japo nimekufungua macho, tafadhali naomba usitumie taarifa hizi kuzidi kudanganya wengine.

Sema wewe mkuu tukisema sie wazee watasema tunawaonea gere tuvae miwani tusione gere.
Architecture hapa kwetu inadharauliwa na kudhihakiwa kiasi kwamba tunaishia kuitana wachoraji wakati sifa za uchoraji ni zakina masoud kipanya.

 

[PongLenis]

Ha ha ha ha ha

 

[Kinyau]

Ninatamani ungekuwa mtulivu kabla ya kurespond bila kuelewa nilichosema.
Na mimi natamani ungekuwa mtulivu kabla ya kumisinterpret logic hii

Unaongelea middle earners, mimi nilisema low earners. Whats the line btn middle and Low - we can agree to disagree

Unaongea habari ya nyumba, mimi naongelea habari ya mchoro. the two are directly related - having the correct mchoro gets u to right nyumba

Huja consider other posibilities ambazo mwenye offer hajaziongelea zinazoweza ku lower price. Unataka kusema nini? Povu la nini- Nataka kusema investment ya nyumba ni lifetime commitement , making the right decisions at every stage is crucial
Kwamba sikai Tanzania hahaa- this is your own inferior judgement ama sifahamu pricing ama sina nyumba ama sifahamu values za nyumba mbali mbali? hahaa this is your opinion and you have the best answer mkuu
Unataka kkusema michoro yote inakwenda kwenye hizo millions? --nowhere is it said yote

Tafadhali kiongozi naomba uwe realistic Realistic is subjective term and depends on the ones interpretetion pia usome uelewa hoja yangu.

Nimeisoma na nimeilewa kama ulivyoainisha mkuu

 

[sajosojo]

Wewe nenda kasajiliwe na NEMC tu , ufanye EIA na ENVIRONMENTAL AUDITING. haya mambo waachie wenyewe

tatizo lako ni jealous, niwaachie wenyewe wakina nani? environment engineer ni wide na ndio maana ikaitwa environmental engineer it is not only environmental sciences ni science and engineer na that's why AutoCAD, archCAD, ArchGIS, EPANET, ILWIS, etc hizi software zote anafundishwa mwanafunzi wa Environmental Engineer only ni juhudi binafsi kuzimaster katika next level

 

[Safari_ni_Safari]

tuonyeshe hiyo ya kwako ya kudownload

 

[srinavas]

Acha kunitisha wewe , unajua unaongea na nani? Mimi mwenyewe hapa vile vile nipo kwenye field hiyo hiyo ya env eng. Naelewa kila kitu na ndio maana nikakupa ushauri wa bure

 

[Kyatsvapi]

vinapishana kivipi?it's better ukafafanua

Uzoefu wa miaka 3 na elimu yako ambayo ni profesheni kwa kazi hiyo, haviendani na mchoro uliouweka kwenye hii thread.

Ngoja nikuonyeshe ya jamaa mmoja hivi mwenye kazi yake;

Kiufupi, naungana na mdau mmoja aliyesema kuwa kwenye hizi projects, watu wanaweka hela nyingi walizozikusnya kwa shida kidogo na baadhi hata kukopa. Sasa inapokuja kuwa mchoro ambao ndiyo mwongozo wa ujenzi unakuwa umekaa vibaya, inaleta shida kidogo.