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Ishmael said:

Is Sky/Heaven A ROOF or Canopy Over the Earth?

Quran 21: 32 And We have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents.


Quran 31: 10 He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports (pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath dispersed…


Quran 2: 22: Who has made the earth your couch, And the heavens (Sky) your canopy


Modern science tells us- whole thing around the earth is space and there is no boundary even if we go Billions of light years away in all directions. Questions are: When there is no sky above us then how in the world, it needs pillars for support? Do we really have a roof above us? Is there a canopy above the Earth? Is there anything called above or beneath us? Are mountains there to prevent Earth from shaking? Give me a break!


Once again Allah considered sky as roof over the Earth, which will broke/shattered during dooms day


Quran 78: 19 And the heavens (sky) Shall be broken (opened) as if there were doors opens…


Quran 82: 1 When the Sky is cleft asunder


Quran 69: 16 And the sky will be Rent asunder, for it will That day be flimsy (soft)


Quran 81: 2 When the stars fall, losing their luster.


Yousuf Ali comments in his Tafsir: beautiful blue-sky overhead (which we take for granted in sunshine) will be shattered to pieces. Modern science tells us that there is no such thing as roof/sky or any canopy over the Earth; rather all around Earth is a limitless space. Only Allah knows what will break/shatter or will get soft/flimsy or how doors will open , there is no walls, where from doors will come? In some Ayats Allah threatened kafirs by saying: “I (Allah) will throw broken pieces of sky over your head.”

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dogo Ishmael;The truth and precision of this verse of the Qur'an is but a single example of scores of other verses, whose precise truthful references to scientific facts were proved by modern science. For the Muslim there is no need for separation between religion and science. It is understood from the Quran, revealed over 1,400 years ago, that there is both; "Creation" and "Evolution." And in both instances, it is only Allah who is "Able to do all things." In fact, it was the Muslim scientists, more than 1,000 years ago, who set the stage for the advancement of learning, technology and disciplines in science that we know today.[h=2][/h]

Adiosamigo said:

Nimeisha jibu yote hayo, kasome page hizi vizuri utaona majibu yangu, kama huoni kachukie miwani unaweza kuona. Go to school, study a lot of biology, then try making a question that makes sense. FYI; Electron microscopy has clarified that all living creatures, are in pairs. The smallest microbes, viruses, and bacteria have their counterpart antibodies. It is not just the animal world that is in pairs, the botanical world is in pairs too. So, "asexual" reproduction of bacteria involves the DNA "pair" of strands splitting and reformation into a new "pair" of cells.

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Wewe nimekuambia kuwa si viumbe wote wana Pair, ukashangaa nikakwambia kuwa Whaptails hawana madume.

Kuwa serious, kama kweli Bakteria wana PAIR, ebu niambie kama kuna tofauti ya idadi Chromosome kati ya Mama wa Bakteria na mtoto wake. Pole sana, what about Whiptails Lizard?

Quran inasema we have created everything in Pairs

Adiosamigo said:

dogo Ishmael;The truth and precision of this verse of the Qur'an is but a single example of scores of other verses, whose precise truthful references to scientific facts were proved by modern science. For the Muslim there is no need for separation between religion and science. It is understood from the Quran, revealed over 1,400 years ago, that there is both; "Creation" and "Evolution." And in both instances, it is only Allah who is "Able to do all things." In fact, it was the Muslim scientists, more than 1,000 years ago, who set the stage for the advancement of learning, technology and disciplines in science that we know today.

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Muslim Scientist wapi hao, Waarabu wana sayansi gani, mbona hata kuchimba mafuta wameita Wakristo wa Marekani?, au wale wa kusema jua linazama kwenye Tope?, Au Nyuki kula matunda?, au Dunia kuwa Flat?. Mbona wanasayansi ni Makafir?

Adiosamigo said:

Kwanza kaikosea bibilia yako inayosema Yesu ni shoga, hana akili afu ndio uje useme una akili. Sijawahi kusikia Muislam anamdharau Yesu kama wakristo mpaa mnasema hana akili na kumuita shoga. Waislamu tunamheshimu Yesu kama tunavyo mpa heshima Mtume Muhammad. Wakristo wote ni wendawazimu. Msikie Mtume wako Paulo anasema nini; 1 Corinthians 1:25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength. The comparison itself is very insulting and degrading to GOD Almighty. It is also limiting to Him since our finite and limited intelligence and strength were compared to His infinite Attributes.

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Hakuna na hatakuwepo Mkristo WA kumwita Yesu shoga au Hana akili, Kama ikitokea Huyo atakuwa Muislam maana ndiyo smbao kutumia akili kwenye dini yenu ni dhambi.
Yesu ni Mungu wasio mjua ndiyo walifikiri ni kichaa kwa kuwa aliongea mambo yasiyo ya kawaida kwa binadam WA kawaida.
Chuki ya waislam kwa mtume Paulo ni wazi kwa kuwa Mtume Paulo alitabiri ujio WA roho ya ibilisi ambayo ndiyo msingi WA dini Yenu.
Mwendawazimu ni yule aliyekuwa amakabwa mapangoni na majini na kutamani ajiue kwa kujirusha toka mlimani...

Adiosamigo said:

dogo Ishmael;The truth and precision of this verse of the Qur'an is but a single example of scores of other verses, whose precise truthful references to scientific facts were proved by modern science. For the Muslim there is no need for separation between religion and science. It is understood from the Quran, revealed over 1,400 years ago, that there is both; "Creation" and "Evolution." And in both instances, it is only Allah who is "Able to do all things." In fact, it was the Muslim scientists, more than 1,000 years ago, who set the stage for the advancement of learning, technology and disciplines in science that we know today.[h=2][/h]

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Kwa hiyo msukule wewe unafundisha vijana wenu sayansi kwa kutumia Quran.
Yap yawezekana maana ninyi kichaa ni taaluma

Adiosamigo said:

Kwanza kaikosea bibilia yako inayosema Yesu ni shoga, hana akili afu ndio uje useme una akili. Sijawahi kusikia Muislam anamdharau Yesu kama wakristo mpaa mnasema hana akili na kumuita shoga. Waislamu tunamheshimu Yesu kama tunavyo mpa heshima Mtume Muhammad. Wakristo wote ni wendawazimu. Msikie Mtume wako Paulo anasema nini; 1 Corinthians 1:25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength. The comparison itself is very insulting and degrading to GOD Almighty. It is also limiting to Him since our finite and limited intelligence and strength were compared to His infinite Attributes.

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Kwanza jua kuwa kwakuwa binadamu kapewa freewill, hii kauli inayo dhamira njema ndani yake.

Yesu kristo amekuwa akionyesha ni kwa jinsi gani wanadamu wamekuwa wakiua manabii na mitume wa mungu. Huku wakiwaita ni wajinga na wenyewe wazimu. Bila kufahamu namna mungu anavyojifunua kwao.mfano yohana mbatizaji. Stephano,

Hali hii haikukoma Kwani iliendelea kuwakuta mitume wa YESU.
Yesu aliwahi kusema yohana alikuja hali wala hanywi wakasema anamapepo mwana wa Adam anakula na kunywa wanasema mlafi, mlevi na rafiki zao watoza ushuru na wenyewe dhambi.

Ndipo kauli kama hii imetumika kuwafanya watu wawe aware na vile mungu alivyo na atendavyo
Kazi zake, sivyo vile Wanadamu wanavyotaka kuchukulia. Mungu hategemei msaada wa binadamu. Unaweza mwona anayemtumaini mungu ni mpumbavu na pengine ukamtusi na mungu wake kwa busara zako za kibinadamu ukidhani U na akili sana. Kumbe uu mpumbavu zaidi yake.
Lengo ni kukuonya kuwa usijilinganishe upumbavu wako na Mungu.

Maagizo ya YESU kama vile akupigae shavu moja mgeuzie na la pili, akulazimishae kutembea maili moja tembea nae mbili, akudhulumue usitake akurudishie.
Mwombee adui yako, mbariki anayekuudhi, usilaani usije ukalaaniwa,
Usilipe ubaya kwa ubaya,
Uwe kama mtoto mdogo. Usipokuwa kama mtoto huwezi urithi ufalme wa mungu.,!!

Haya ni baadhi tu ya mambo ambayo kwa busara za kibinadamu ukifanya watakuona mpumbavu.
Lakini ni maagizo ya Mungu.
Swali kwanini Mungu amechagua njia ya upole hivyo badala ya njia za ukatili wa kukata mikono miguu, kata Kichwa, lipa kisasi n.k?

Kakende said:

Wewe nimekuambia kuwa si viumbe wote wana Pair, ukashangaa nikakwambia kuwa Whaptails hawana madume.

Kuwa serious, kama kweli Bakteria wana PAIR, ebu niambie kama kuna tofauti ya Chromosome kati ya Mama wa Bakteria na mtoto wake. Pole sana, what about Whiptails Lizard?

Quran inasema we have created everything in Pairs

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Hahaha dogo hebu jicheka kwanza au hujui kizungu nilicho kisema hapo mbona kinafahamika wazi. Ikiwa whiptail lizards are just doubling up on their own chromosomes, aren't they then missing out on the genetic diversity benefits of sexual reproduction?

Nkwesa Makambo said:

Kwa hiyo msukule wewe unafundisha vijana wenu sayansi kwa kutumia Quran.
Yap yawezekana maana ninyi kichaa ni taaluma

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Ugalatia kweli majanga,mnabadilisha maana ya maneno ya Qur'an yaonekane hayana ukweli.Wakati Qur,an haibadiliki,kwa maana ina lugha yake ya asili.Ukibadilisha tafsiri,watu wanarudi kuangalia lugha yake ya asili.

2013 said:

Kwanza jua kuwa kwakuwa binadamu kapewa freewill, hii kauli inayo dhamira njema ndani yake.

Yesu kristo amekuwa akionyesha ni kwa jinsi gani wanadamu wamekuwa wakiua manabii na mitume wa mungu. Huku wakiwaita ni wajinga na wenyewe wazimu. Bila kufahamu namna mungu anavyojifunua kwao.mfano yohana mbatizaji. Stephano,

Hali hii haikukoma Kwani iliendelea kuwakuta mitume wa YESU.
Yesu aliwahi kusema yohana alikuja hali wala hanywi wakasema anamapepo mwana wa Adam anakula na kunywa wanasema mlafi, mlevi na rafiki zao watoza ushuru na wenyewe dhambi.

Ndipo kauli kama hii imetumika kuwafanya watu wawe aware na vile mungu alivyo na atendavyo
Kazi zake, sivyo vile Wanadamu wanavyotaka kuchukulia. Mungu hategemei msaada wa binadamu. Unaweza mwona anayemtumaini mungu ni mpumbavu na pengine ukamtusi na mungu wake kwa busara zako za kibinadamu ukidhani U na akili sana. Kumbe uu mpumbavu zaidi yake.
Lengo ni kukuonya kuwa usijilinganishe upumbavu wako na Mungu.

Maagizo ya YESU kama vile akupigae shavu moja mgeuzie na la pili, akulazimishae kutembea maili moja tembea nae mbili, akudhulumue usitake akurudishie.
Mwombee adui yako, mbariki anayekuudhi, usilaani usije ukalaaniwa,
Usilipe ubaya kwa ubaya,
Uwe kama mtoto mdogo. Usipokuwa kama mtoto huwezi urithi ufalme wa mungu.,!!

Haya ni baadhi tu ya mambo ambayo kwa busara za kibinadamu ukifanya watakuona mpumbavu.
Lakini ni maagizo ya Mungu.
Swali kwanini Mungu amechagua njia ya upole hivyo badala ya njia za ukatili wa kukata mikono miguu, kata Kichwa, lipa kisasi n.k?

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Bora ufundishe jibwa zee kuliko devoted young educated Muslim. Wako brainwashed Kabisa hawezi elewa chochote zaidi ya kukaririshwa inzi Ana antibiotic bawa moja

Adiosamigo said:

dogo Ishmael;The truth and precision of this verse of the Qur'an is but a single example of scores of other verses, whose precise truthful references to scientific facts were proved by modern science. For the Muslim there is no need for separation between religion and science. It is understood from the Quran, revealed over 1,400 years ago, that there is both; "Creation" and "Evolution." And in both instances, it is only Allah who is "Able to do all things." In fact, it was the Muslim scientists, more than 1,000 years ago, who set the stage for the advancement of learning, technology and disciplines in science that we know today.

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[h=3]Is Religion Compulsive Or Is It Not?[/h]Quran 02: 256 There is no Compulsion in religion….
OR
Quran 9: 29 Fight those who do not profess the true faith(Islam) till they pay the polltax (jiziya) with the hand of humility.


Quran 9: 5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolators wherever ye find them and take them captive, and besiege them and prepare for them each ambush….


Quran 47: 4 When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads….


Quran 2: 191 And slay (kill) them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out such is the reward of those who suppress faith.


Quran 8: 65 O Apostle ! rouse the believers to the fight of….unbelievers.


Very often apologetics claim that, Islam is a religion of peace and there is no compulsion. Yet punishment of an apostate in Islam is, of course, death penalty.
In very many Ayats Allah claimed that, He has given this Quran in the easy and clear language so that, it will not be difficult to understand by the ordinary Arabs.


Quran 44: 58 Verily, We have made This Quran easy in the tongue, in order that they may give heed.


No matter which translated Quran we read, the Quranic materials remain the same to us and every sentence is self explanatory and it does not take a rocket scientist to comprehend what is the message Allah wanted to transmit for Arabs. Yet, bigot Mullahs will always blame translators for Quranic contradictions/errors/inconsistencies etc. and will try to find lame excuses to cover up Allah's ignorance.
[h=4]Comments:[/h]The Holy Qur'an is full of inaccuracies, contradictions, inconsistencies, redundancies, no chronology or chapters, grammatical errors, etc. One can find hundreds of contradictions/errors/inconsistencies in the Holy Quran. The above-mentioned Ayats are just selected samples from the Quran. But still it is a miracle to those who are blindfolded bigots.

Adiosamigo said:

dogo Kakende , The Noble Quran confirms that the earth is rotating around its axle: The sections of this article are: Allah Almighty's Divine Claim in Qur'an 27:88; And you see the mountains, thinking them rigid, while they will pass as the passing of clouds. [It is] the work of Allah , who perfected all things. Indeed, He is Acquainted with that which you do.The Qur'an,21:33;Allah Almighty did say that all of the objects in the Universes are swimming in space. Qur'an,21:33; It is He who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its orbit with its own motion.

Dogo usiwe unazua uwongo hio Quote ya Qur'an ulio iweka sijui ya wapi hio, hebu wacha uwongo hakuna Qur'an inayosema hivyo. sababu Qur'an 27:61 inasema hivi tofouti na wewe ulivyo weka Quote yako, tutazame Qur'an 27:61;
Is He [not best] who made the earth a stable ground and placed within it rivers and made for it firmly set mountains and placed between the two seas a barrier? Is there a deity with Allah ? [No], but most of them do not know.
Punguza uwongo dogo usidhani watu hatuijui Qur'an wewe, na wenzako ni washesinzi nyie, mnakimbia sasa mpaa kuibadilisha Qu'an ili mpate point za uwongo.
dogo Kakende a.k.a Ishmael, we huna kitu wewe kichwani ni zero kabisa, na sa wacha nikuonyeshe ukweli Bibilia ndio inasema Earth haimove, dalili hii hapa; The Earth Does Not Move According to the Bible I Chronicles 16:30; The world also is firmly established, it shall not be moved"

Psalm 93:1; Surely the world is established, so that it cannot be moved"


Kakende, umeona mungu wa kikristo hajui kitu hapo, au bado.

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Nimegundua kuwa nafanya Mjadala na mtu mwenye shule ndogo, kama umekubwali kuwa mbinguni kuna kuvuana chupi na Mabikra, Mito ya Pombe, una akili sawasawa?

Nkwesa Makambo said:

Bora ufundishe jibwa zee kuliko devoted young educated Muslim. Wako brainwashed Kabisa hawezi elewa chochote zaidi ya kukaririshwa inzi Ana antibiotic bawa moja

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Ukitaka kujua kuwa Waislam ni watu wa ajabu, eti mwislam ambae ni imani kali, yaani mfuasi wa dini sana anakuwa muuaji (Gaidi)

Lakini Mkristo Imani Kali (Walokole) wanakuwa wapole na wenye upendo

Nkwesa Makambo said:

Bora ufundishe jibwa zee kuliko devoted young educated Muslim. Wako brainwashed Kabisa hawezi elewa chochote zaidi ya kukaririshwa inzi Ana antibiotic bawa moja

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Sayansi ya Quran inesema Dunia inazama kwenye tope la moto, ingawa wao wanalazimisha eti ina maanisha Bahari, wanapingana na Hadith. Pia wanasema Mwanadamu kaumbwa kwa sperm

Kakende said:

Muslim Scientist wapi hao, Waarabu wana sayansi gani, mbona hata kuchimba mafuta wameita Wakristo wa Marekani?, au wale wa kusema jua linazama kwenye Tope?, Au Nyuki kula matunda?, au Dunia kuwa Flat?. Mbona wanasayansi ni Makafir?

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Ulisha tembelea research centre za kule ukaona wote wanao fanya kule ni wakristo? Hayo ya kuchimba mafuta si warabu wote walita wazungu dogo. Hio ya kusema Dunia kuwa Flat ni Bibili andio inasema vile, Qur'an inasema dunia inashape kama ya Yai dogo. Kuhusu nyuki kasome dogo ukisha elewa ndio uje tuongee hapa.

[h=4]Humans Created from a Clot of Blood[/h] Main Article: Embryology in Islamic Scripture
The Qur'an and Hadith depict that humans are formed from a clot of blood. There was never a stage in embryonic development where humans are formed into a clot of blood. This description is likely influenced by an unscientific and primitive understanding of human reproduction based on observations from an early-term miscarriage and a woman's menstrual cycle.


Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood:
Qur'an 96:2




Narrated 'Abdullah bin Mus'ud: “Allah's Apostle, the true and truly inspired said, "(The matter of the Creation of) a human being is put together in the womb of the mother in forty days, and then he becomes a clot of thick blood for a similar period, and then a piece of flesh for a similar period.”
Sahih Bukhari 4:54:43

Kikwajuni One said:

Ugalatia kweli majanga,mnabadilisha maana ya maneno ya Qur'an yaonekane hayana ukweli.Wakati Qur,an haibadiliki,kwa maana ina lugha yake ya asili.Ukibadilisha tafsiri,watu wanarudi kuangalia lugha yake ya asili.

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Quran haiwezi kubadirishwa ikibadirishwa Tu sheytwani ataumbuka. Aibu yake imefichwa kwenye lugha ya kiarabu.
Uislam na matumizi ya busara haviko compatible kabisa

All Organisms are Created in Pairs

Main Article: Qur'anic Claim of Everything Created in Pairs
Not every creature procreates or reproduces through male and female sexual relationship. The whiptail lizard in the U.S. Southwest, Mexico, and South America, is an all-females species which reproduces by parthenogenesis. Viruses reproduce using a host's DNA and are neither female nor male. Bacteria reproduce by cell division. Fungus can reproduce either sexually or asexually. Many species of plants also reproduce either asexually or through pollination.

And of every thing We have created pairs: That ye may receive instruction.
Qur'an 51:49

Glory to Allah, Who created in pairs all things that the earth produces, as well as their own (human) kind and (other) things of which they have no knowledge.
Qur'an 36:36

Kakende said:

Nimegundua kuwa nafanya Mjadala na mtu mwenye shule ndogo, kama umekubwali kuwa mbinguni kuna kuvuana chupi na Mabikra, Mito ya Pombe, una akili sawasawa?

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Hata nguruwe anawazidi kuwaza wako brainwashed kabisa

Mkuu Adiosamigo, soma Dongo ili, Quran inasema makafir ni viziwi/vipofu, lakini vitu vingi wanavyotumia waislam vimekuwa imported kutoka kwa Makafir, ebu soma hii
Non-Muslims are Deaf, Dumb, and Blind



The Qur'an calls non-believers "deaf dumb and blind". However all the technology, medicine, and scientific advancements in the Muslim world are almost exclusively purchased from the non-Muslim countries. Computers, television, space travel, helicopters, media players, nuclear bombs, cameras, satellites, birth control pills, vaccinations, telephones, radios, light bulbs, microchips, games consoles, refrigerators, microwaves, plastic, aluminium, x-rays, antibiotics, heart-transplants, the internet etc., were all invented by non-Muslims.


Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path)
Qur'an 2:18

Adiosamigo said:

Ulisha tembelea research centre za kule ukaona wote wanao fanya kule ni wakristo? Hayo ya kuchimba mafuta si warabu wote walita wazungu dogo. Hio ya kusema Dunia kuwa Flat ni Bibili andio inasema vile, Qur'an inasema dunia inashape kama ya Yai dogo. Kuhusu nyuki kasome dogo ukisha elewa ndio uje tuongee hapa.

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Vipi geographia ya professor wenu aliyeshusha wahay ati jua huzama kwenye dimbwi la matope