Msaada hapa kwa wale "linguists" matumizi sahihi ya occupy & engage

[Mwana Ilala]

Hallo Wana JF.

Natumai humu ndani kuna linguists,watakao weza kung'amua utumiaji sahihi wa haya Maneno katika lugha hii ya Ki-Ingereza inayosadikika kuwakimbiza Mchaka-Mchaka Watanzani waliowengi ndani ya Jumuiya Afrika Mashariki Kiasi cha kupelekea aibu kwenye kuijieleza kwa Waheshimiwa wa Bunge letu la E.Africa kwa upande wa Members wa TZA.

Ninaomba kujua usahihi katika hizi sentensi Mbili hapa chini zikihusisha Maneno mawili(Engaged & Occupied)

1.The public toilet is Occupied
2.The public toilet is engaged

Tafadhali, nnaomba kujua ni neno lipi lilotumika kiusahihi hapo Juu na ni kwanini. Je kama yote ni(Similar) kwa nn moja tu ndio liwe sahihi zaidi ya mwenzie!?

Thanks.

 

[Jerrymsigwa]

Hallo Wana JF.

Natumai humu ndani kuna linguists,watakao weza kung'amua utumiaji sahihi wa haya Maneno katika lugha hii ya Ki-Ingereza inayosadikika kuwakimbiza Mchaka Watanzani waliowengi ndani ya Jumuiya Afrika Mashariki Kiasi cha kupelekea aibu kwenye kuijieleza kwa Waheshimiwa wa Bunge letu la E.Africa kwa upande wa Members wa TZA.

Ninaomba kujua usahihi katika hizi sentensi Mbili hapa chini zikihusisha Maneno mawili(Engaged & Occupied)

1.The public toilet is Occupied
2.The public toilet is engaged

Tafadhali, nnaomba kujua ni neno lipi lilotumika kiusahihi hapo Juu na ni kwanini. Je kama yote ni(Similar) kwa nn moja tu ndio liwe sahihi zaidi ya mwenzie!?

Thanks.

Is this just for linguists? I can give a trial with my poor english command!

Occupy is most likely used to describe coverage of a matter in a known size, volume or shape. Like oxygen occupies a room (with volume) lakini huwezi sema enged a room.

Engaged-its used at that course of time! Like engage a gear, engaged to a fiancèè, a room is engaged with somebody. Just being used at that time of expressio

BTW hizo ni kwa nionavyo mimi just a novice of english language

 

[Mwana Ilala]

Is this just for linguists?

AnyOne Mr.Msigwa J.

 

[Kobello]

Occupied.

 

[Jerrymsigwa]

AnyOne Mr.Msigwa J.

Haya nimejibu hapo juu mambo ya Mulugo hayo ngoja waamke walosomea vitu vinaitwa syntax sjui metaphor na simile hope tutajifunza kupitia kwao

 

[Jerrymsigwa]

Occupied.

Mkuu si ungeweka hata gravy kidogo

 

[Kifyatu]

Hallo Wana JF.

Natumai humu ndani kuna linguists,watakao weza kung'amua utumiaji sahihi wa haya Maneno katika lugha hii ya Ki-Ingereza inayosadikika kuwakimbiza Mchaka-Mchaka Watanzani waliowengi ndani ya Jumuiya Afrika Mashariki Kiasi cha kupelekea aibu kwenye kuijieleza kwa Waheshimiwa wa Bunge letu la E.Africa kwa upande wa Members wa TZA.

Ninaomba kujua usahihi katika hizi sentensi Mbili hapa chini zikihusisha Maneno mawili(Engaged & Occupied)

1.The public toilet is Occupied
2.The public toilet is engaged

Tafadhali, nnaomba kujua ni neno lipi lilotumika kiusahihi hapo Juu na ni kwanini. Je kama yote ni(Similar) kwa nn moja tu ndio liwe sahihi zaidi ya mwenzie!?

Thanks.

Toilets are inanimate objects. They can only be occupied but never engaged. So, in my humble opinion number 1 is correct and number 2 is not possible.

Labda kama tutakuwa na smart toilets zitakazozungumza na sisi, siku zote tuta-occupy toilets.

Tutakapopata smart toilets zinazotuambia zinajisikiaje tunapozichafua basi tutaweza kusema toilets na sisi can engage.

 

[Jerrymsigwa]

Toilets are inanimate objects. They can only be occupied but never engaged. So, in my humble opinion number 1 is correct and number 2 is not possible.

Labda kama tutakuwa na smart toilets zitakazozungumza na sisi, siku zote tuta-occupy toilets.

Tutakapopata smart toilets zinazotuambia zinajisikiaje tunapozichafua basi tutaweza kusema toilets na sisi can engage.

Mkuu hii picha ambazo ndio vyoo karibu vyote inatumika (British toilets)


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Sidhani kama uko sawa

 

[Kobello]

Mkuu si ungeweka hata gravy kidogo

Engaged is too british (sounds funny in other words).
Occupied is widely used even in french they use occupe, in spanish ocupado.
Occupied is common worldwide.

 

[Jerrymsigwa]

Engaged is too british (sounds funny in other words).
Occupied is widely used even in french they use occupe, in spanish ocupado.
Occupied is common worldwide.

Ooh sure? So kuna toilet ambazo unakuta pamendikwa 'occupied?' I'm learning please

 

[Kifyatu]

Mkuu hii picha ambazo ndio vyoo karibu vyote inatumika (British toilets)
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Sidhani kama uko sawa

Nani kwakuambia kuwa the British speak perfect English. Nifuate mimi mkuu wazungu watakupoteza - LOL.

 

[Kobello]

Ooh sure? So kuna toilet ambazo unakuta pamendikwa 'occupied?'

Yes Sir!

 

[Jerrymsigwa]

Nani kwakuambia kuwa the British speak perfect English. Nifuate mimi mkuu wazungu watakupoteza - LOL.

Mkuu kwani nimebishaaa!! Ndio niko njiani nakuja, so pure english kama ni watu gani mkuu, yani wanaitwaje?

 

[Jerrymsigwa]

Yes Sir!

Basi British wanaharibu kizungu maana thats common language kwenye British toilets, ukiandika occupied it will be idiomatic or colloquial english

 

[Kobello]

Mkuu kwani nimebishaaa!! Ndio niko njiani nakuja, so pure english kama ni watu gani mkuu, yani wanaitwaje?

English as in "British" is too local

 

[Kifyatu]

Mkuu kwani nimebishaaa!! Ndio niko njiani nakuja, so pure english kama ni watu gani mkuu, yani wanaitwaje?

Kaka, sote tunajifunza. Usihamaki. Ninachosema ni kuwa "unachoambiwa kichukue lakini ongeza na uelewa wako". Samahani kama nimekuudhi.

 

[Jerrymsigwa]

t's debatable but "english" as in British is considered too local.

Mkuu unaweza kuwa sawa niko kwenye forum moja wa hawa jamaa sometimes I get stuck kuelewa wana vineno vingi vingi ambavyo si common mfano;

NIL=next in line
ONO=or near offer
REGO=registration
uni=university
ute=utility
TIA=thanks in advance

Na mengine mengi naona hata sisi tumeanza kuadopt kama BTW nk

 

[Kobello]

Basi British wanaharibu kizungu maana thats common language kwenye British toilets, ukiandika occupied it will be idiomatic or colloquial english

Ni sawa na kiswahili cha Lamu. Ingawa kimeanzia huko, huwa hakina mashiko.

 

[Masterproud]

Hallo Wana JF.

Natumai humu ndani kuna linguists,watakao weza kung'amua utumiaji sahihi wa haya Maneno katika lugha hii ya Ki-Ingereza inayosadikika kuwakimbiza Mchaka-Mchaka Watanzani waliowengi ndani ya Jumuiya Afrika Mashariki Kiasi cha kupelekea aibu kwenye kuijieleza kwa Waheshimiwa wa Bunge letu la E.Africa kwa upande wa Members wa TZA.

Ninaomba kujua usahihi katika hizi sentensi Mbili hapa chini zikihusisha Maneno mawili(Engaged & Occupied)

1.The public toilet is Occupied
2.The public toilet is engaged

Tafadhali, nnaomba kujua ni neno lipi lilotumika kiusahihi hapo Juu na ni kwanini. Je kama yote ni(Similar) kwa nn moja tu ndio liwe sahihi zaidi ya mwenzie!?

Thanks.

Ndg. for just a simple meaning, occupy means take some chance or holding something while engage means being part of or being involved into. kwa hiyo ni sahihi No.1 kuwa "the pub toilet is occupied" meaning it is taken/ being used by somebody na sio engaged

 

[Jerrymsigwa]

Ndg. for just a simple meaning, occupy means take some chance or holding something while engage means being part of or being involved into. kwa hiyo ni sahihi No.1 kuwa "the pub toilet is occupied" meaning it is taken/ being used by somebody na sio engaged

Hayaaaaaaa