Monusco on the spot as FDLR deadline expires

Monusco on the spot as FDLR deadline expires

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A UN armoured vehicle patrols Beni in the Democratic Republic of Congo last year in March.

All eyes were on the UN Stabilisation Mission in the DR Congo (Monusco) as the deadline for the FDLR militia to disarm or face military action expired yesterday January 2.

Last year, the head of Monusco, Martin Kobler, told the UN Security Council that after January 2, military action against the FDLR – the group largely blamed for the 1994 Genocide against the Tutsi – would be inevitable.

But there was no sign of imminent attack on the militia, yesterday; instead Kobler on his official Twitter handle on Friday sounded similar diplomatic appeal.

"All FDLR have to stop the fight and return to peaceful life: we encourage them to surrender to MONUSCO and FARDC camps in the Kivus," he said.

Olivier Nduhungirehe, Rwanda's deputy Permanent Representative to the UN, said he did not believe the UN force would act, noting that failure to deliver on a specific UN mandate of ensuring that FDLR militia disarm or face military action was more proof that Monusco was ineffective.

"I do not think they will move (against the militia). Some United Nations Force Intervention Brigade (FIB) contingents do not have the will to neutralise the FDLR, as per resolution 2098 and decisions of ICGLR/SADC," Nduhungirehe told The New Times yesterday.

The United Nations Force Intervention Brigade authorised by the Security Council on March 28, 2013 through Resolution 2098, is a military formation that is part of Monusco.

Asked what he thought would happen following the reluctance by leading FIB contingents to fight the militia, Nduhungirehe said, "I believe that any contingent that is not willing to implement the mandate given by the Security Council in resolution 2098 should be replaced".

Eastern DR Congo observers have previously noted that Tanzanian and South African troops which lead the 3,000-strong special UN Force Intervention Brigade (FIB) – the first UN peacekeeping unit mandated to neutralise armed groups there – under Monusco – cannot be trusted to root out the militia.

Their analysis is backed by the fact that Tanzania lists the FDLR as a freedom fighting organisation on its government website, and senior South African envoys have allegedly lobbied in negotiations for delays in counter-FDLR operations.

In 2013, Tanzanian President Jakaya Kikwete, urged Kigali to open political negotiations with the FDLR and, mid last year, his foreign minister, Bernard Membe, referred to the FDLR as "freedom fighters."

Genocide scholar Tom Ndahiro refers to the UN Force Intervention Brigade as "a fib" when it comes to fighting the FDLR.

Ndahiro said Monusco's inaction "will vindicate what Kigali has been saying" and especially "expose Tanzania and South Africa."

"Monusco should now be disbanded because they cannot fulfill their mission."

The discussion even attracted debate on social network.

"Now we wait to see if Monusco threats of military action were cheap talk," Michael P. Broache, a PhD candidate at the Department of Political Science, Columbia University, tweeted.

On Tuesday, Russell Feingold, US special envoy for the Great Lakes region of Africa and the DR Congo, urged the US' partners in the eastern DR Congo to make good on their promise to launch attacks on FDLR as the latter's recent surrender of only 150 combatants was "an insufficient" step.

Feingold stated that the group has clearly demonstrated over the past six months that a voluntary surrender process will not work- instead, military action must be undertaken to pressure the FDLR to lay down its arms.

"Any delay in military operation by the DRC military and Monusco after January 2 will play into the FDLR's hands and only serve to enable the group to continue to commit human rights abuses," he said.


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UN Secretary General's Special Representative Martin Kobler, arrives at Monusco headquarters in Kinshasa, DRC, to take up his duties on August 13, 2013.

Feingold said that their estimates stood at 1,400 fighters before the surrender last week of 150 former combatants, meaning that over 1,200 fighters were still holed in up in Eastern DR Congo.

Two days before the deadline, on Wednesday, Kobler noted that FDLR ex-combatants disarmed in eastern DR Congo, the previous weekend, but "without commanders and leadership it is not enough."

Kobler was also clear that as FDLR politicians did not honour their commitment to disarm, "the UN will not endorse an extension of the deadline beyond 2/1/15."

Throughout last year, the FDLR offered to disarm, but did the opposite behind the scenes as revealed by a six-month report of the Enough Project whose field research uncovered that the militia were actually regrouping, trading gold and charcoal for weapons, and mobilising political support.

Meanwhile, even though the US politician said his country supported a two pronged approach against the FDLR – demobilsation and reintegration for those willing to surrender, and military operation for those who fail to surrender, Feingold did not clarify on whether US forces would play any direct role in neutralising the militia.

Security officials in the region are also tight lipped on the next course of action but analysts have pointed to the recently set up the Eastern Africa Standby Force (EASF) as a suitable game changer.

Late last year, 10 regional countries: Burundi, Comoros, Djibouti, Ethiopia, Kenya, Rwanda, Seychelles, Somalia, Sudan and Uganda – members of the EASF – hastened to establish a 5,000 strong fighting force which is now ready.

Majority of the now armed and ready for deployment EASF force come from Rwanda, Ethiopia, Uganda and Kenya, countries that are seemingly devoted on uprooting negative forces including the FDLR, the Allied Democratic Forces (ADF), a rebel group opposed to the Ugandan government, and the al-Shabaab, a jihadist group based in Somalia which pledges allegiance to the militant Islamist organisation al-Qaeda.

Source:The newtimes
 
Ngongo,

..yaani hawa watu wanachekesha hawa!!

..hiyo East African Standby Force wanayodai itawapiga Tz inahusisha mpaka majeshi tuliyoyafundisha wenyewe.

..hivi wanaelewa mahusiano ya kijeshi ya Tz na Seychelles kabla ya kusema watashirikiana na nchi nyingine kijeshi dhidi ya Tanzania?

..ngoja nisimwage mboga hapa, manaake waswahili wanasema, "usimwamshe aliyelala"...
 
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Ngongo,

..yaani hawa watu wanachekesha hawa!!

..hiyo East African Standby Force wanayodai itawapiga Tz inahusisha mpaka majeshi tuliyoyafundisha wenyewe.

..hivi wanaelewa mahusiano ya kijeshi ya Tz na Seychelles kabla ya kusema watashirikiana na nchi nyingine kijeshi dhidi ya Tanzania?

..ngoja nisimwage mboga hapa, manaake waswahili wanasema, "usimwamshe aliyelala"...

Tatizo Kingereza huwa kinawapa chenga sana nyie Watanzania, mimi nimesoma taarifa yote na sijaona sehemu inaelezea kupigwa kwa Tanzania, sasa siju huo uoga wenu ni wa nini.
Ifahamike nchi kumi za ukanda wa mashariki tayari zimejitolea kuunda hii defence force, ambapo Tanzania walinuna kama kawaida yao. Hatuwezi kuwaburuza ama wabembeleza, tunasepa bwana. Baada ya defence force hizi nchi kumi zinanuia kushirikiana kiuchumi na kujenga one formidable economic bloc.

Hili la FDLR bado sio rahisi kuwavamia maana jamaa wanafahamika kuwageukia raia wa Congo kila wakipigwa, sasa inakua ni jambo lazima lishughulikiwe kwa ustadi. Na shughuli itaongozwa na jeshi la Congo maana ni nchi yao na sasa sielewi kinachowauma Wabongo nini, aidha mtakua nyie ndio mnawalea hao ma-jenosaida. Majeshi ya nchi zingine yatakua nyuma ya Congo kufanikisha shughuli.
 
Tatizo Kingereza huwa kinawapa chenga sana nyie Watanzania, mimi nimesoma taarifa yote na sijaona sehemu inaelezea kupigwa kwa Tanzania, sasa siju huo uoga wenu ni wa nini.
Ifahamike nchi kumi za ukanda wa mashariki tayari zimejitolea kuunda hii defence force, ambapo Tanzania walinuna kama kawaida yao. Hatuwezi kuwaburuza ama wabembeleza, tunasepa bwana. Baada ya defence force hizi nchi kumi zinanuia kushirikiana kiuchumi na kujenga one formidable economic bloc.

Hili la FDLR bado sio rahisi kuwavamia maana jamaa wanafahamika kuwageukia raia wa Congo kila wakipigwa, sasa inakua ni jambo lazima lishughulikiwe kwa ustadi. Na shughuli itaongozwa na jeshi la Congo maana ni nchi yao na sasa sielewi kinachowauma Wabongo nini, aidha mtakua nyie ndio mnawalea hao ma-jenosaida. Majeshi ya nchi zingine yatakua nyuma ya Congo kufanikisha shughuli.

Mkenya unaeshinda kwenye forum za kiTZ unaidharau TZ ni kituko hicho..
 
Hata kama Tz na SA haziaminiki likija swala la FDLR nani wa kuiamini Uganda na Rwanda ambao walikuwa huko miaka nenda miaka rudi wanaiba madini na magogo badala ya kuwatoa hao FDLR?

Kipi kimebadilika kwa mataifa haya mawili kuwafanya sasa wawe na nia ya dhati ya kuwatafuta FDLR ...nothing more?
 
Tatizo Kingereza huwa kinawapa chenga sana nyie Watanzania, mimi nimesoma taarifa yote na sijaona sehemu inaelezea kupigwa kwa Tanzania, sasa siju huo uoga wenu ni wa nini.
Ifahamike nchi kumi za ukanda wa mashariki tayari zimejitolea kuunda hii defence force, ambapo Tanzania walinuna kama kawaida yao. Hatuwezi kuwaburuza ama wabembeleza, tunasepa bwana. Baada ya defence force hizi nchi kumi zinanuia kushirikiana kiuchumi na kujenga one formidable economic bloc.

Hili la FDLR bado sio rahisi kuwavamia maana jamaa wanafahamika kuwageukia raia wa Congo kila wakipigwa, sasa inakua ni jambo lazima lishughulikiwe kwa ustadi. Na shughuli itaongozwa na jeshi la Congo maana ni nchi yao na sasa sielewi kinachowauma Wabongo nini, aidha mtakua nyie ndio mnawalea hao ma-jenosaida. Majeshi ya nchi zingine yatakua nyuma ya Congo kufanikisha shughuli.

..wewe unachanganya defence protocal ya EAC na EASF.

..EASF inatokana na maazimio ya AU ya kuunda vikosi vya aina hiyo.

..kwamba Tz haiko kwenye EASF ni kwasababu sisi tuko kwenye SADC standy force, siyo kwasababu Tz haitaki kushirikiana na majirani zake.

..zaidi, hata huko kwenye EASF Tanzania ina mchango wake kwa maana yako majeshi kama ya Seychelles na Uganda ambayo yamefaidika na yanaendelea kufaidika na mafunzo toka kwa JWTZ.

..sasa tukija kwenye masuala ya DRC, msimamo wetu unaeleweka kwamba tuko upande wa wananchi wa DRC.

..majuzi tume-train mamia ya wanajeshi toka jeshi la Congo ktk chuo chetu cha kijeshi Monduli. Tell me ni nchi gani nyingine ktk Afrika Mashariki imejitolea kiusalama kama tulivyofanya sisi.

..zaidi, majeshi yetu yanashiriki ktk kikosi cha UN kilichopelekwa DRC kuyashughulikia makundi yote ya waasi wa DRC.

..nadhani kuna juhudi kubwa sana zinafanyika kujaribu kuichafua sifa nzuri ya Tanzania ktk jumuiya ya kimataifa.
 
..wewe unachanganya defence protocal ya EAC na EASF.

..EASF inatokana na maazimio ya AU ya kuunda vikosi vya aina hiyo.

..kwamba Tz haiko kwenye EASF ni kwasababu sisi tuko kwenye SADC standy force, siyo kwasababu Tz haitaki kushirikiana na majirani zake.

..zaidi, hata huko kwenye EASF Tanzania ina mchango wake kwa maana yako majeshi kama ya Seychelles na Uganda ambayo yamefaidika na yanaendelea kufaidika na mafunzo toka kwa JWTZ.

..sasa tukija kwenye masuala ya DRC, msimamo wetu unaeleweka kwamba tuko upande wa wananchi wa DRC.

..majuzi tume-train mamia ya wanajeshi toka jeshi la Congo ktk chuo chetu cha kijeshi Monduli. Tell me ni nchi gani nyingine ktk Afrika Mashariki imejitolea kiusalama kama tulivyofanya sisi.

..zaidi, majeshi yetu yanashiriki ktk kikosi cha UN kilichopelekwa DRC kuyashughulikia makundi yote ya waasi wa DRC.

..nadhani kuna juhudi kubwa sana zinafanyika kujaribu kuichafua sifa nzuri ya Tanzania ktk jumuiya ya kimataifa.

Tatizo langu na Watanzania ni kwamba
- Ilikubalika makundi yote yaweke silaha chini na yasambaratike na kujiunga na nchi zao husika katika ujenzi wa taifa.
- Tanzania ikajitolea pakubwa na kuungana na nchi zingine kadhaa na wakawapiga M23
- Sasa ngoma imefikia FDLR ambapo Wakongo tayari wameonyesha msimamo wao hawawataki hawa jamaa katika ardhi ya nchi yao, na wapo tayari kuhusika kijeshi katika kuwatoa FDLR kwao, imekuwaje Tanzania wanawakingia kifua hao wapiganaji eti maana hiyo ni nchi ya SADC, ilhali uongozi wa nchi husika ya Congo wenyewe washatoa msimamo hawawataki. Tanzania ina maslahi gani kwa hawa wapiganaji hadi hata wanawapa jina kuwa wapiganaji wa uhuru kwenye website yao hii hapa Hon. Membe attends SADC/ICGLR Ministerial meeting in Luanda, Angola | Magazeti ya leo| Tanzania News |Tanzania Today

Sipati picha, naomba majibu bila zile jazba za kitoto zenye naona wenzio wamekomalia maswali ya kijinga kuhusu Kenya na Alshabaab
 
Ngongo,

..yaani hawa watu wanachekesha hawa!!

..hiyo East African Standby Force wanayodai itawapiga Tz inahusisha mpaka majeshi tuliyoyafundisha wenyewe.

..hivi wanaelewa mahusiano ya kijeshi ya Tz na Seychelles kabla ya kusema watashirikiana na nchi nyingine kijeshi dhidi ya Tanzania?

..ngoja nisimwage mboga hapa, manaake waswahili wanasema, "usimwamshe aliyelala"...

hawa magaidi tz inalea wa FDLR kwa niaba ya S.A amboa ni ndugu kibiashara na watu wa zuma mtakuja juta. eti mnawaita freedom fighters tanzania. kageme na m23 yake huku jakaya kikwete na FDLR yake. Munusco ni S.A na jwtz kama licking boots wa s.a. hawataki jeshi la JK lipigwe vita. Lakini hili lazima lizimwe pia.



Hon. Membe attends SADC/ICGLR Ministerial meeting in Luanda, Angola



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Hon. Bernard K. Membe, Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation giving country's position during the joint SADC/ICGLR Ministerial Meeting held in Luanda, Angola July 2, 2014.
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The second joint ministerial meeting of the Southern Africa Development Cooperation (SADC) and the International Conference on the Great Lakes Region (ICGLR) countries was concluded in Luanda July 2, 2014 with concrete steps to finding sustainable peace in the region.
The well attended meeting by all country members represented by foreign and defence ministers deliberated heavily on a single agenda of voluntarily disarmament of the Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR).
Hon. Bernard Membe, Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation, led the Tanzania delegation whereby the Tanzania Defence Minister was represented by the Tanzanian Army Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Samuel Ndomba.
FDLR a politico-military organization whose combatants are exclusively freedom fighters originally from Rwanda settled in DRC, wrote an appeal letter to SADC secretariat expressing their readiness to surrender and hand over their weaponry to African relevant authorities. The letter also requested assistance from the organ to oversee the process of Disarm, Demobilize, Repatriate, Resettle and Re-integrate (DDRRR) in accordance to the directives of other neighbouring countries including Tanzania.
Apart from accepting the said letter, SADC member states welcomed the FDLR willingly surrender and adherence to the DDRRR process. They however strongly suggested other stakeholders such as AU, UN and ICGLR to oversee the process while Rwanda and DRC were urged to take part in the process.
In a joint session, delegates discussed the provisional six-month time frame given to the FDLR to complete the DDRRR process as proposed by the technical experts meeting prior to ministerial meeting. Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) supported by majority countries including Tanzania insisted that the allocated timeframe was right while Rwanda claimed the past experiences proved 3 months to be enough.
However the chair and the host of the said meeting, Angola, ruled out for the six months proposal but should be revised by the third month to gauge progress.
It is the expectation of all countries in attendance that the DDRRR process is implemented within the given time frame with full engagement of both DRC and Rwanda.
The ICGLR/SADC member countries also urged international community and neighbouring countries to join hands with DRC and Rwanda in this historical peace – making process.
The third meeting of this nature is expected to take place within the next three months.
Issued by:
Government Communication Unit;
Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation
Dewji Blog


 
Tatizo langu na Watanzania ni kwamba
- Ilikubalika makundi yote yaweke silaha chini na yasambaratike na kujiunga na nchi zao husika katika ujenzi wa taifa.
- Tanzania ikajitolea pakubwa na kuungana na nchi zingine kadhaa na wakawapiga M23
- Sasa ngoma imefikia FDLR ambapo Wakongo tayari wameonyesha msimamo wao hawawataki hawa jamaa katika ardhi ya nchi yao, na wapo tayari kuhusika kijeshi katika kuwatoa FDLR kwao, imekuwaje Tanzania wanawakingia kifua hao wapiganaji eti maana hiyo ni nchi ya SADC, ilhali uongozi wa nchi husika ya Congo wenyewe washatoa msimamo hawawataki. Tanzania ina maslahi gani kwa hawa wapiganaji hadi hata wanawapa jina kuwa wapiganaji wa uhuru kwenye website yao hii hapa Hon. Membe attends SADC/ICGLR Ministerial meeting in Luanda, Angola | Magazeti ya leo| Tanzania News |Tanzania Today

Sipati picha, naomba majibu bila zile jazba za kitoto zenye naona wenzio wamekomalia maswali ya kijinga kuhusu Kenya na Alshabaab

..hili suala siyo la Tanzania, ni uamuzi wa UN/AU na ukizingatia maazimio ya SADC + ICGLR.

..hakuna haja ya kueleza nchi wanachama wa SADC na ICGLR ni zipi.

..uamuzi wa kuwapiga m23 kwa muda ule ni uamuzi wa vyombo vyote hivyo siyo Tanzania peke yake. Zaidi, ni uamuzi uliohusisha Rwanda, DRC, na Uganda, ambazo zina mikono yao ktk makundi hayo ya magaidi.

..waliotoa ultimatum ya miezi 6 kwa FDLR kuweka silaha chini ni kikao cha pamoja cha SADC + ICGLR. Again, hakuna haja ya kuzitaja nchi hizo.

..Ultimatum ya miezi 6 imeisha Jan 2nd. Sasa leo ni siku mbili tangu ultimatum hiyo iishe, je ni lini Tanzania ilitoa statement yoyote ile tofauti na uamuzi wa pamoja wa wanachama wa SADC na ICGLR?

..Tanzania imetoa askari kupigana bega kwa bega na askari wa DRC. Tumetoa mafunzo kwa majeshi ya DRC. Askari wetu wamepoteza maisha na wameingia vilema kwa ajili ya amani ya DRC. Haiwezekani sisi tena tugeuke tuwaunge mkono wale wasiotaka DRC iwe na amani.

NB:

..huo mkutano wa ICLR + SADC nina uhakika Kenya na Rwanda zimewakilishwa. Siyo dhambi kwa Tanzania kuhudhuria mkutano huo.

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waltham said:
hawa magaidi tz inalea wa FDLR kwa niaba ya S.A amboa ni ndugu kibiashara na watu wa zuma mtakuja juta. eti mnawaita freedom fighters tanzania. kageme na m23 yake huku jakaya kikwete na FDLR yake. Munusco ni S.A na jwtz kama licking boots wa s.a. hawataki jeshi la JK lipigwe vita. Lakini hili lazima lizimwe pia.

..what u just posted is far from the truth.

..badala yake Tanzania inafundisha askari wa DRC.

..Raisi wa DRC amekuja Tanzania na ametushukuru kwa msaada wetu kwao.

..wanaoneza uvumi huo ulioweka hapo juu, ndiyo hao hao walioeneza uvumi kwamba Mama Salma Kikwete ni Mhutu.

..kama Tanzania imekuwa kikwazo basi kuna vyombo kama SADC na ICGLR ambavyo vinaweza kuelekeza majeshi yetu yaondoke huko kwasababu tumegoma kufuata maagizo ya vyombo hivyo.
 
JokaKuu
DR Congo-Rwanda – FDLR deadline approaches, but are they disarming?

Posted on January 2, 2015 | Leave a comment
The East African
By Sasha Lezhnev and John Prendergast
Posted Saturday, December 27 2014 at 12:37
IN SUMMARY

While the FDLR offered to disarm in May 2014, behind the scenes it is doing the opposite. Six months of Enough Project field research uncovered that the rebels are regrouping, trading gold and charcoal for weapons, and mobilising political support.
Tanzania and South Africa, the countries that would be the largest members of the integration force, continue to make excuses for the FDLR.
Tanzania lists the FDLR as a freedom fighting organisation on its government website, and senior South African envoys have lobbied in negotiations for delays in counter-FDLR operations.

The clock is ticking on a deadline that will help determine the prospects for future peace and stability in the violence-wracked Democratic Republic of Congo.
Two years ago, the world embarked on a major experiment in peacekeeping, sending a robustly mandated force to do the tough parts of peace enforcement alongside more traditional United Nations blue helmets. The scene of the test was the world's deadliest conflict since World War II, in Congo, where Rwandan-backed rebels had taken over significant swathes of Congolese territory and threatened to destabilise the entire country.
For over a decade, UN peacekeepers had been present in Congo, but to little effect. They had failed to prevent numerous massacres of civilians. And in November 2012, one of eastern Congo's largest cities, Goma, fell to rebels known as the M23 despite the presence of 19,000 UN troops in the region.
Thanks to a public campaign against the M23 and leadership by the US and UN, the UN Security Council authorised an Intervention Brigade staffed by South African, Tanzanian, and Malawian soldiers. The force was mandated to "neutralise armed groups… in a robust, highly mobile, and versatile manner."
It had initial successes, ably reinforcing the Congolese army's push against the M23 with air support and sophisticated weaponry, albeit with casualties. Thanks in part to these military victories, the M23 officially disarmed in December 2013.
One year later, the initiative has reversed course. The central issue today is that troop contributors Tanzania and South Africa are showing no willingness to militarily dismantle the FDLR rebel group. The FDLR has been one of the most significant threats to civilians in eastern Congo over the past 20 years, and its presence has served as a justification for Rwandan interventions in Congo.
It is led by commanders who are reported to have perpetrated Rwanda's 1994 genocide and is on the US list of terrorist organisations. The FDLR has committed numerous massacres in eastern Congo. For example, in Shabunda in 2012, FDLR combatants allegedly massacred 45 civilians, decapitated the village chief, and cut a baby from a pregnant woman.
While the FDLR offered to disarm in May 2014, behind the scenes it is doing the opposite. Six months of Enough Project field research uncovered that the rebels are regrouping, trading gold and charcoal for weapons, and mobilising political support.
Georges, a Congolese community leader, told our team, "Their demobilisation offer is only going to help them buy time as usual." Congolese civil society coalitions have written letters to the UN asking it to launch military strikes against the FDLR.
On January 2, the FDLR faces an ultimatum from the UN to disarm or face military action, and the international community has agreed on benchmarks for the disarmament.
However, Tanzania and South Africa, the countries that would be the largest members of that force, continue to make excuses for the FDLR. Tanzania lists the FDLR as a freedom fighting organisation on its government website, and senior South African envoys have lobbied in negotiations for delays in counter-FDLR operations.
Three changes can get the process back on track. First, Tanzania and South Africa must commit to conducting operations against the FDLR if the benchmarks are not met by the deadline. They are helping allow a rebellion to reorganise that includes alleged genocidaires, that has used rape systematically as a weapon of war, and that Congolese civil society says continues to threaten it.
The peacekeepers are under the command of the UN, so operational decisions should not be made in the capitals of troop contributing countries.
Second, the UN should rotate troops out of the Congo operation that are not making useful contributions and rotate in more capable militaries, in co-ordination with the Congolese government. This would be a much more efficient use of taxpayer money. Angola, for example, has one of the region's most capable armies and could be encouraged to take on a larger regional peacekeeping role.
Third, the US should deploy Special Forces advisors to the Intervention Brigade in a pared-down version of the successful counter-Lord's Resistance Army mission. That mission, with African forces in the lead and advised by US military advisors on intelligence and defection strategies, has helped reduce LRA attacks by 92 per cent in three years.




 
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Na kabila ana say kuhusu huu mgogoro sababu ni nchi yake...wengine bila kibali cha UN ni wapambe tu...
Tusubiri tusikie anatoa tamko gani maana nilisoma mahali kuwa atatoa tamko kuhusu FDLR...

na ninemsoma pia M23 wameanza kurudi wakitokea Rwanda...afu huyu huyu Rwanda ndio atoe jeshi kwenda Congo kuwasaka FDLR akati anaendelea kuwapa misaada M23...



..what u just posted is far from the truth.

..badala yake Tanzania inafundisha askari wa DRC.

..Raisi wa DRC amekuja Tanzania na ametushukuru kwa msaada wetu kwao.

..wanaoneza uvumi huo ulioweka hapo juu, ndiyo hao hao walioeneza uvumi kwamba Mama Salma Kikwete ni Mhutu.

..kama Tanzania imekuwa kikwazo basi kuna vyombo kama SADC na ICGLR ambavyo vinaweza kuelekeza majeshi yetu yaondoke huko kwasababu tumegoma kufuata maagizo ya vyombo hivyo.
 


..what u just posted is far from the truth.

..badala yake tanzania inafundisha askari wa drc.

..raisi wa drc amekuja tanzania na ametushukuru kwa msaada wetu kwao.

..wanaoneza uvumi huo ulioweka hapo juu, ndiyo hao hao walioeneza uvumi kwamba mama salma kikwete ni mhutu.

..kama tanzania imekuwa kikwazo basi kuna vyombo kama sadc na icglr ambavyo vinaweza kuelekeza majeshi yetu yaondoke huko kwasababu tumegoma kufuata maagizo ya vyombo hivyo.

kwani sadc nani? Si ni south africa na tz na the rest of members ni choir members s.a wakiwa choir masters. S.a wakipata homa nyie nyote homa na kutetemeka!!!!
 

kwani sadc nani? Si ni south africa na tz na the rest of members ni choir members s.a wakiwa choir masters. S.a wakipata homa nyie nyote homa na kutetemeka!!!!

..hili suala linashughulikiwa na SADC + ICGLR.

..hata Kenya na Rwanda wamo humo hivyo misimamo yao inasikilizwa.

..kiuchumi unaweza kusema SA ina sauti, lakini ktk masuala ya kiusalama na kijeshi SA hawana sauti ndani ya SADC.

..katika SADC, kuna Angola ambao wana jeuri ya kiuchumi na kijeshi kuliko SA. Mara chache sana SA wameji-assert kijeshi ktk eneo la SADC.
 
Tatizo langu na Watanzania ni kwamba
- Ilikubalika makundi yote yaweke silaha chini na yasambaratike na kujiunga na nchi zao husika katika ujenzi wa taifa.
- Tanzania ikajitolea pakubwa na kuungana na nchi zingine kadhaa na wakawapiga M23
- Sasa ngoma imefikia FDLR ambapo Wakongo tayari wameonyesha msimamo wao hawawataki hawa jamaa katika ardhi ya nchi yao, na wapo tayari kuhusika kijeshi katika kuwatoa FDLR kwao, imekuwaje Tanzania wanawakingia kifua hao wapiganaji eti maana hiyo ni nchi ya SADC, ilhali uongozi wa nchi husika ya Congo wenyewe washatoa msimamo hawawataki. Tanzania ina maslahi gani kwa hawa wapiganaji hadi hata wanawapa jina kuwa wapiganaji wa uhuru kwenye website yao hii hapa Hon. Membe attends SADC/ICGLR Ministerial meeting in Luanda, Angola | Magazeti ya leo| Tanzania News |Tanzania Today

Sipati picha, naomba majibu bila zile jazba za kitoto zenye naona wenzio wamekomalia maswali ya kijinga kuhusu Kenya na Alshabaab
Sasa lawmaina78 katiba ya FDLR yenyewe inasema kuwa wao ni politico-military organisation for the liberation of Rwanda. Kwahiyo kuwaita kama walivyojiita si kosa, kosa linaweza kuwa kuwasaidia lakini Tanzania hakuna mahali tuliposema tunampango wa kuwasaidia FDLR shida yenu ni kutaka sie tufanye vitu mnavyotaka nyie. Sie tunaamini kuwa Vita ni last resort baada ya mazungumzo kukwama, sasa M23 mazungumzo yalikwama ndio tukaamua kushiriki kuwang'oa kijeshi. FDLR wapo tayari kwa mazungumzo ila kagame ndio hataki, sasa hoja zinazotolewa na kagame ni za kitoto huwezi sema kwasababu kuna walioshiriki genocide basi FDLR ni genocidares. Organisation inakuwa judged kwa katiba yake na sio tabia za mwanachama. Mbona kuna wapiganaji wa RPF walienda purposely kuuwa wahutu waliokuwa wamekimbia makazi yao na kujikusanya sehemu inaitwa Kibeho, na taarifa huru zinasema wahutu zaidi ya 5000 waliuwawa japo kagame alisema ni 300 tu ndio waliouwawa lakini hakuna mtu anayesema RPF wana genocide ideology? Isiwe kwasababu yuko madarakani ndio tukubaliane na kila anachosema kagame, na TZ haijawalazimisha wengine kuamini tunachoamini hivyo mheshimu tunachoamini. Zaidi ya hapo tunasubiri kwa hamu time aliyoisema kagame anaisubiri ili ampige kikwete, muda huo ndio tutaweka mazingira ya kuheshimiana iwe Kikwete yuko madarakani au amestaafu.
 
Sasa lawmaina78 katiba ya FDLR yenyewe inasema kuwa wao ni politico-military organisation for the liberation of Rwanda. Kwahiyo kuwaita kama walivyojiita si kosa, kosa linaweza kuwa kuwasaidia lakini Tanzania hakuna mahali tuliposema tunampango wa kuwasaidia FDLR shida yenu ni kutaka sie tufanye vitu mnavyotaka nyie. Sie tunaamini kuwa Vita ni last resort baada ya mazungumzo kukwama, sasa M23 mazungumzo yalikwama ndio tukaamua kushiriki kuwang'oa kijeshi. FDLR wapo tayari kwa mazungumzo ila kagame ndio hataki, sasa hoja zinazotolewa na kagame ni za kitoto huwezi sema kwasababu kuna walioshiriki genocide basi FDLR ni genocidares. Organisation inakuwa judged kwa katiba yake na sio tabia za mwanachama. Mbona kuna wapiganaji wa RPF walienda purposely kuuwa wahutu waliokuwa wamekimbia makazi yao na kujikusanya sehemu inaitwa Kibeho, na taarifa huru zinasema wahutu zaidi ya 5000 waliuwawa japo kagame alisema ni 300 tu ndio waliouwawa lakini hakuna mtu anayesema RPF wana genocide ideology? Isiwe kwasababu yuko madarakani ndio tukubaliane na kila anachosema kagame, na TZ haijawalazimisha wengine kuamini tunachoamini hivyo mheshimu tunachoamini. Zaidi ya hapo tunasubiri kwa hamu time aliyoisema kagame anaisubiri ili ampige kikwete, muda huo ndio tutaweka mazingira ya kuheshimiana iwe Kikwete yuko madarakani au amestaafu.
Kibona, huu ndio unafiki tunaousema kila mara, Rwanda Foreign affairs minister ndiye alisema ikifika hiyo deadline ya kudisarm FDRL ndipo ukweli utajulikana wa nani mnafiki..
FDRL imekuwa named as a negative force that needs to be disarmed by all means, hii ilikubaliwa na mataifa yote na mpaka sasa hivi, ukiondoa Tanzania nchi zote zishatoa msimamo wake juu ya FDRL.
Hapa utajiuliza Tanzania ina faida gani juu ya FDRL?
Tanzania inakisaidia sana kikundi cha FDRL; Political assistance is more than anything, manake kama nchi inadiliki kukiita kikundi hiki kuwa ni cha kupigania uhuru (kumbuka only Tanzania has given out this statement);on the other side nchi kama Marekani na mataifa ya Ulaya kwa wao FDRL ni kikundi cha kighaidi.
Kikundi hiki kimekuwa banned na viongozi wake kukataliwa kutembea mataifa ya Ulaya ila nchi, tena jirani ya Rwanda ndio inakuwa ya kwanza ku defend kikundi hicho.(Any way lets wait and see, ila what i know this wont help anything):
DRC Congo ishasema kabisa haiko tayari kuendelea ku host FDRL, and Congolese are taking it as a terrorist organization:
Nadhani wegi hatutakuwa tumekosea tukisema Tanzania inataka kuanzisha vurugu nchini Rwanda.
 
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