Let Kagame Have a Third Term as President

[mchambawima1]

Fwaten katiba kwan hawezi kuwa mshauri baada ya kipindi chake kupita?

ipi sasa, turiyorekebisha?

 

[Mulhat Mpunga]

Muhimu kukumbuka tu ni kwamba watu wa Rwanda wanasemaje juu ya Raisi Kagame.
Hata kama watafanya kura ya maoni kumruhusu kugombania awamu ya tatu basi uchaguzi ni lazima uwe huru na haki ili kuruhusu watu kutimiza haki yao ya kikatiba ya kushiriki katika siasa za nchi: Kwasababu naamini siyo wote wanaomkubali Raisi Kagame na kama hata fanya hivyo basi kutakuwa na minong'ono isiyo na msingi.
Mwisho wake heshima ya katiba, mahakama na utawala wa kisheria hupotea kwenye macho na masikio ya watu: Ni lazima haya yafanywe ili kujenga Rwanda yenu thabiti.

Forbes. /twaweza

 

[Genekai]

Hata angepewa awamu kumi, there is nothing i'll get or lose..... After all PK is not my competitor

 

[mchambawima1]

Huwa nafurahi kweli jinsi anavyochangia. Unakuta anampinga Nkuruzinza kwa kubaki madarakani halafu anamkubali Kagame aendelee kuongoza Rwanda!

na hilo ndio tatizo lako... KUKURUPUKA! sasa hebu niambie Nkurunziza abaki anafanya nini? miaka kumi aliyoongoza, amefanikiwa kuirudisha nchi nyuma miaka 20 sasa utafananishaje hao viumbe wawili kama kweli unaakili timamu, BTW ulishaona maandano nchini Rwanda yanayopelekea mauwaji ya raia kama Burundi? kajipange urudi...

 

[MALCOM LUMUMBA]

Forbes. /twaweza

Yes we do

Forbes/ Twaweza.

 

[tejateja]

Huwa nafurahi kweli jinsi anavyochangia. Unakuta anampinga Nkuruzinza kwa kubaki madarakani halafu anamkubali Kagame aendelee kuongoza Rwanda!

Umeona mkuu jamaa fikra zake zina makengeza

 

[tejateja]

na hilo ndio tatizo lako... KUKURUPUKA! sasa hebu niambie Nkurunziza abaki anafanya nini? miaka kumi aliyoongoza, amefanikiwa kuirudisha nchi nyuma miaka 20 sasa utafananishaje hao viumbe wawili kama kweli unaakili timamu, BTW ulishaona maandano nchini Rwanda yanayopelekea mauwaji ya raia kama Burundi? kajipange urudi...

Mtazamo wako unamakengeza

 

[Gamba la Nyoka]

Ina maana katika Rwanda yote yeye ndo mwenye uwezo kuliko watu wote wa Rwanda?. Kama ni hivyo basi poleni sana ndugu zetu wanyarwanda!

 

[Ngongo]

Ina maana katika Rwanda yote yeye ndo mwenye uwezo kuliko watu wote wa Rwanda?. Kama ni hivyo basi poleni sana ndugu zetu wanyarwanda!

Tatizo pale ni ututsi na hutu.Wahutu ni 85% huku watutsi wakiwa 15%.Uhasama wa haya makabila mawili unajulikana nje ndani sasa utashangaa Kagame anapata 95% ya waungaji mkono third term.Ina maana hata wahutu wanaowachukia watutsi wanampatia kura zao Mtutsi mbaguzi aliyejaza watutsi wenzake serekalini.

 

[Drifter]

Surely he can have a third term as long as the General Will demands. (Sovereignty of the Rwandan people)
But the process should be under a very tight scrutiny, public opinion matters a lot and its a basic tenet of any world class constitution. The People, The Parliament, The Judiciary, The Press and The opposition must be consulted because in such circumstances their views avail much. A good analogy of this was President Roosevelt's bid for the third term in the Oval Office, it was unconstitutional but gained much of legitimacy from the American General Public.
So Hell Yeah to President Kagame if the Rwandan public gives a NOD to his bidding.

Nice words indeed, but you better give credit to the greats who decided on fixed terms in democratic systems - even in the US. They saw "reality" beyond "nice guys". in our particular environment, you certainly don't tell me that should the likes of Kagame or Magufuli decide to run for office for the third or even tenth term, rejection through "due democratic process" is a possibility.

 

[MALCOM LUMUMBA]

Nice words indeed, but you better give credit to the greats who decided on fixed terms in democratic systems - even in the US. They saw "reality" beyond "nice guys". in our particular environment, you certainly don't tell me that should the likes of Kagame or Magufuli decide to run for office for the third or even tenth term, rejection through "due democratic process" is a possibility.

At least someone who speaks my language. Dear friend, your notion on constitutional limit is not in dispute. Any modern society is way beyond the periphery of "good guys" or a Max Weber puts it " the spirit of charismatic leadership" ; henceforth any civilized nation ought to be ruled by established corporate institutions.

But at the end of the tether any democracy society has to venture itself in ascertaining the public opinion. Which sometimes can be a proper manifestation of Sovereignty of the people. Wearing these shoes none of us can decide whether or not President Kagame is a suitable candidate for running Rwanda.

I humbly think any Democratic society must ascertain public opinion before embarking in unnecessary criticism. And of course public opinion must be in line with The Concepts of Justice and Liberty as an appropriate checks to deter the emasculation of constitutional integrity.

 

[ruhi]

Sasa hivi hapa Africa tunataka viongozi aina ya Rais Kagame watawalee kwa vipindi vyovyote kwani tumechoka na hii Demokrasia ya kubadilisha marais halafu tunapata viongozi corrupt.
Hata Rais Magufuli akiendelea na hii style yake ya uongozi hatuna haja ya kuwa na kiongozi mwingine.
Hawa wazungu wanapenda sana sisi waafrika tutawaliwe na viongozi corrupt kwa kupitia Demokrasia.

Akili za kipuuzi kweli, unadhani kuna watu wangapi wanaweza kufanya mazuri zaidi ya Magufuli na Kagame? kama wapo wao watapata kuongoza lini? wataendelea kwa nguvu alafu wengine nao watakuja kufanya hivyo. Juzi Mseveni aliombewa atawale adi afe sijui hapo unawalaumu wazungu?

Kitu ambacho kinasababisha wazungu wawazarau ni kutofuata kile mlichokubaliana kukifuata alafu kukifuta nacho hamtaki, wao wanafuata kile walichokubaliana kukifuata

 

[vyuma]

[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] naona umejidhatiti kweli kweli! Hivi Kagame huwa anakupa nini? vyuma njoo umsikilize huyu mchambawima1

Mpuuzeni huyo mpuuzi mchambawima1, anachokijua ni fitna tu na kuua wahutu.

 

[vyuma]

Exactly! and that is what we always do, maoni ya wananchi ni muhimu siku zote... kinachoniuma mimi ni pale baadhi ya watu mlioko huko nje kutotuamini au kutuona kama vile matahira wasioona mazuri tuliyo fikia kutokana na uongozi wa Mheshimiwa Paul Kagame... kunawakati huwa hata najiuliza hivi kuna ufanisi mwingine zaidi ya huu tunaoshuhudia hapa Rwanda... kinachonisisimua zaidi ni pale wakosa adabu ndani yetu wanavyodhibitiwa, wacha niachie hapo kwani nikiongelea ubora wake hapata tosha hapa...

Demokrasia gani mnayoifuata ninyi? Acha kudanganya watu,paka alilazimisha watu wampigie kura ya kumruhusu kugombea muhura wa tatu. Mlituma polisi wenu na wanajeshi kuwatisha RAIA ili wakubali,mliwashikia hadi bunduki na yeyote aliyeonekana mpinzani wa muhura wa tatu mlimuua.

 

[vyuma]

Huwa nafurahi kweli jinsi anavyochangia. Unakuta anampinga Nkuruzinza kwa kubaki madarakani halafu anamkubali Kagame aendelee kuongoza Rwanda!

Huyo ni wa kumpuuza mkuu, hana maana hata kidogo yeye mtutsi kwanza mengine baadae. Anampinga Nkurunziza kwa sababu ya uhutu wake,anamsapoti paka kwa sababu ya ututsi wake. Lakini kwa Burundi wameshaacha kuleta fyokofyoko maana paka na washirika wake kina Pierre Buyoya,Alexis Sinduhije na Hussein Radjabu wamedhibitiwa vya kutosha.

 

[ipyax]

Rwanda it's a 1 man show /leadership country, he wanted to lead for a third term and no body dared to oppose him. Rule 9f law should be respected regardless how good his leadership is because there are many Rwandan people who can lead even Nelson Mandela left after 1 term even though the people were begging him to stay on.

 

[MALCOM LUMUMBA]

Demokrasia gani mnayoifuata ninyi? Acha kudanganya watu,paka alilazimisha watu wampigie kura ya kumruhusu kugombea muhura wa tatu. Mlituma polisi wenu na wanajeshi kuwatisha RAIA ili wakubali,mliwashikia hadi bunduki na yeyote aliyeonekana mpinzani wa muhura wa tatu mlimuua.

Mkuu kweli walifanya hivyo?
Duuuh basi amekosea sanaaaa.

 

[vyuma]

Mkuu kweli walifanya hivyo?
Duuuh basi amekosea sanaaaa.

Mkuu ninachokisema hapa ni kweli tupu,sijawahi kudanganya. Nimekaa Rwanda miaka mitano hata paka alipoitisha ile Reverendum I was in Rwanda. Walichokifanya maafisa wa polisi na jeshi ni kuwalazimisha watu kukubali muhura wa tatu wa paka tena kwa mtutu. Hayo maigizo anayoyafanya paka&co ni mbembwe tu. Kwa mazingira ya Rwanda na Burundi mtutsi hawezi kutawala kwa njia ya kidemikrasia, maana ukimsimamisha muhutu dhidi ya mtutsi kwenye uchaguzi expect no Tutsi will be elected kwanza kwa uhasama uliopo pili kwa uwingi wa wahutu dhidi ya watutsi.

 

[jMali]

Hii thread inachekesha kweli. eti "Let kagame..." As if banyarwanda have a choice of NOT letting him.

 

[jMali]

Mkuu kweli walifanya hivyo?
Duuuh basi amekosea sanaaaa.

Mkuu msikilize huyu nguli wa siasa Shaka Ssali hapa.

Sikiliza pia wanyarwanda halisi achana na hawa "wanyambo" wa JF.