Tetesi: KQ yaongeza Hasara mara mbili hadi Ksh 7.5b kutoka billioni 4 mwaka jana😆😆

[Old story]

Hivi muhimu ni safari nyingi au ni kupata pesa nyingi?. Kenya inapata watalii wengi kuliko Tanzania, lakini Tanzania inapata pesa Mara mbili zaidi kutokana na utalii zaidi ya Kenya.

Safar nyingi ndo chanzo cha mapato mengi kwa kenya kwenye shirika lao ndo kama hivyo kinacho waua ndo hicho ila sidhani kama safar za ATCL ni nyingi kuliko za KQ

 

[joto la jiwe]

Safar nyingi ndo chanzo cha mapato mengi kwa kenya kwenye shirika lao ndo kama hivyo kinacho waua ndo hicho ila sidhani kama safar za ATCL ni nyingi kuliko za KQ

Kama wingi ndio mapato, kwa nini watalii wengi wasiipe mapato mengi Kenya kuizidi Tanzania?

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

Kama wingi ndio mapato, kwa nini watalii wengi wasiipe mapato mengi Kenya kuizidi Tanzania?

KQ inakimbia kwenda JFK kutafuta misifa huku wakibeba abiria 45😆😆😆
Eti wana route nyingi😆😆😆

 

[Old story]

Vivutio vya utalii vilivyopo kenya utalinganisha na tanzania tanzania vipo vingi ila kenya ni vichache. Suala la KQ kama huwa mnafanya safar na abiria 10 kwenye ndege hapo sawa kwamba route nyingi mapato hakuna

Kama wingi ndio mapato, kwa nini watalii wengi wasiipe mapato mengi Kenya kuizidi Tanzania?

 

[kennedy0000]

Hahahahaha, doesn't matter how you call it, so long as it achieves the goals, which are
1) To provide better and affordable air transport services inside and outside the country
2)It is operated profitably
3)It gives dividend to the Government
4)It stimulate our economy by bringing more tourists and investment.
These are our goals, we will achieve better if it will be 100% owned by Government like Ethiopia Airways.

ATCL is not operating profitably. It is not giving any dividend to the government.. actually it is taking money out of the government.

Also, Ethiopian may be 100% owned by the government, but it operates like an airline. They take in debt and borrow loans. They lease planes.
They have an order of about 50 planes. You think their government is the one which placed this order?

 

[joto la jiwe]

Vivutio vya utalii vilivyopo kenya utalinganisha na tanzania tanzania vipo vingi ila kenya ni vichache. Suala la KQ kama huwa mnafanya safar na abiria 10 kwenye ndege hapo sawa kwamba route nyingi mapato hakuna

Kama vivutioa vya utalii ni Vingi kwanini Kenya wanapata watalii wengi?, biashara inahitaji akili sio wingi wa safari au watalii, tofautisha kati ya Quantity na Quality.

 

[Kafrican]

Sasa hiyo ripoti imesema hasara inatokana na salaries, hasa marubani wanachukua 49% ya salaries, na kwamba Fuel cost pamoja na fleet ownership cost zipo juu, wewe unawapinga?.

Sasa kama hizo gharama zote zipo chini, vipi KQ inaendelea kupata hasara year in year out?, basi ninyi ni failed state original, kama mambo yote hapo ni OK, but nothing works, then ninyi Mungu amewalaani.

SIjapinga chenye kimesemwa na KQ, NAch pinga hapo ni wewe ulipoanza ku compare KQ na ATCL business.... Hio ni kama mimi nianze ku compare business model ya FlyEmirates na KQ ... Hailinganiki!!!!!

KQ iko na 430 pilots na inahitaji marubani wengine 200 wapya ili iwe na marubani 650 wanaofanya kazi in shifts, kwasababu wengine wamekua poached na kina Qatar,Emirates,Turkish... etc https://www.businessdailyafrica.com...n-past-one/3946234-5073036-sc7jrez/index.html
https://www.fixusjobs.com/kenya-airways-kq-salaries/

Ukichanganya na ground crew, technicians, engineers, flight attendants, wanafika zaidi ya 4,000, hii inamaanisha kulingana na sheria hao ni wafanyikazi wengi wnaofanyia kampuni moja kazi, kiasi cha kua wanaruhusiwa ku form Workers Union, na unajua wafanyikazi waki form union ni lazima maslahi yao yote yaangaliwe --- remuneration, accommodation, working conditions, allowances, medical insurance, life insurance...etc Alafu wewe unakuja hapa na comparizon zako na ATCL ambayo marubani hawafiki hata 30! eti ATCL is making good business!, you are not on KQ's level!!!!!

 

[Old story]

Kama vivutioa vya utalii ni Vingi kwanini Kenya wanapata watalii wengi?, biashara inahitaji akili sio wingi wa safari au watalii, tofautisha kati ya Quantity na Quality.

So kenya na tz nani ana quantity na quality na akili kubwa ya kutangaza vivutio ambavyo havipo nchini kwake

 

[joto la jiwe]

ATCL is not operating profitably. It is not giving any dividend to the government.. actually it is taking money out of the government.

Also, Ethiopian may be 100% owned by the government, but it operates like an airline. They take in debt and borrow loans. They lease planes.
They have an order of about 50 planes. You think their government is the one which placed this order?

Hahahahaha, modality ya ET na ATCL ni sawa sawa, it is 100% owned by Government but is semi autonomous.

Ninyi wakenya uwezo wenu wa mambo ni mdogo sana ndio sababu nothing is working. Hayo yote mbayoyafanya sisi tulishayafanya na kuona matatizo yake, sasa tunarekebisha makosa.

Air Tanzania ilishakabidhiwa share holders kama ilivyo KQ sasa hivi lakini hakuna la maana zaidi ya hasara, tumejifunza kutokana ET, sasa hivi ATCL inafanya vizuri Sana.

Hatuhitaji uamini, wewe endelea kubisha, sisi tuna malengo yetu ambayo hadi sasa tunakwenda vizuri sana.

 

[joto la jiwe]

KQ inakimbia kwenda JFK kutafuta misifa huku wakibeba abiria 45
Eti wana route nyingi

Kenya ni watu esnaopenda sifa wakati uwezo wao wa kufikiria ni mdogo sana, Magufuli atawatawala katika kila eneo.

 

[joto la jiwe]

SIjapinga chenye kimesemwa na KQ, NAch pinga hapo ni wewe ulipoanza ku compare KQ na ATCL business.... Hio ni kama mimi nianze ku compare business model ya FlyEmirates na KQ ... Hailinganiki!!!!!

KQ iko na 430 pilots na inahitaji marubani wengine 200 wapya ili iwe na marubani 650 wanaofanya kazi in shifts, kwasababu wengine wamekua poached na kina Qatar,Emirates,Turkish... etc https://www.businessdailyafrica.com...n-past-one/3946234-5073036-sc7jrez/index.html
https://www.fixusjobs.com/kenya-airways-kq-salaries/

Ukichanganya na ground crew, technicians, engineers, flight attendants, wanafika zaidi ya 4,000, hii inamaanisha kulingana na sheria hao ni wafanyikazi wengi wnaofanyia kampuni moja kazi, kiasi cha kua wanaruhusiwa ku form Workers Union, na unajua wafanyikazi waki form union ni lazima maslahi yao yote yaangaliwe --- remuneration, accommodation, working conditions, allowances, medical insurance, life insurance...etc Alafu wewe unakuja hapa na comparizon zako na ATCL ambayo marubani hawafiki hata 30! eti ATCL is making good business!, you are not on KQ's level!!!!!

Hahahahaha, wewe acha kupiga kelele, katika biashara yoyote kitu muhimu ni profit, sasa kuna faida gani kuwa na biashara kubwa lakini inapata hasara hakuna faida?.

Tell me, jirani yako ana Duka kubwa Mara mbili ya Duka lako na wafanyakazi 100 lakini anapata hasara kila mwaka, na wewe una Duka dogo na wafanyakazi 5 lakini unapata faida na huna deni, ipi ni better?. Ninahisi kwa wakenya mtachagua Duka kubwa lenye kutengeneza hasara kwasababu ninyi ni wapenda SIFA za kijinga.

 

[kennedy0000]

Hahahahaha, modality ya ET na ATCL ni sawa sawa, it is 100% owned by Government but is semi autonomous.

Ninyi wakenya uwezo wenu wa mambo ni mdogo sana ndio sababu nothing is working. Hayo yote mbayoyafanya sisi tulishayafanya na kuona matatizo yake, sasa tunarekebisha makosa.

Air Tanzania ilishakabidhiwa share holders kama ilivyo KQ sasa hivi lakini hakuna la maana zaidi ya hasara, tumejifunza kutokana ET, sasa hivi ATCL inafanya vizuri Sana.

Hatuhitaji uamini, wewe endelea kubisha, sisi tuna malengo yetu ambayo hadi sasa tunakwenda vizuri sana.

ATCL has never bought even a spoon or plate on their planes. All money comes from the government.
All ATCL does is haemorrhage money and come back to Magufuli with another bowl.

 

[Oii]

They are much better off than a certain national carrier that has a negative equity. To clear any doubt; negative equity means total liabilities exceed total assets.
Or put it this way; mmoja ni mgonjwa lakini mwingine kafa.

Alokufa liabilities zake zina exceed current assets kwa Tshillings ngapi?

 

[eliakeem]

Kenya Airways widens loss to Sh 7.59 Billion

Kenyan WallStreet
50 mins ago

National carrier Kenya Airways has reported a loss of Sh 7.59 Billion for the 12 month period ended December 2018 from a loss of Sh 6.41 Billion reported in the nine month period ended in December 2017.
The airline attributed the loss to the high cost of fuel, high salaries and fleet ownership cost which account for nearly two thirds of the its operating costs.
Revenue for the 12 month period increased to Sh 114.45 Billion compared to Sh Sh 80.79 Billion reported during the 9 Month period ended 31 December 2017.
“Kenya Airways current liabilities exceeded Its current assets by KShs 101.540 million (31 December 2017: KShs 106.422 million). These events or conditions, along with other matters as set forth In note 2(e) of the audited financial statements Indicate that a material uncertainty exists that may cast significant doubt on Kenya Airways Pie’s ability to continue as a going concern.” Its auditors, Deloitte noted.
Kenya Airways widens loss to Sh 7.59 Billion

Kenyan WallStreet

50 mins ago​

National carrier Kenya Airways has reported a loss of Sh 7.59 Billion for the 12 month period ended December 2018 from a loss of Sh 6.41 Billion reported in the nine month period ended in December 2017.
The airline attributed the loss to the high cost of fuel, high salaries and fleet ownership cost which account for nearly two thirds of the its operating costs.
Revenue for the 12 month period increased to Sh 114.45 Billion compared to Sh Sh 80.79 Billion reported during the 9 Month period ended 31 December 2017.
“Kenya Airways current liabilities exceeded Its current assets by KShs 101.540 million (31 December 2017: KShs 106.422 million). These events or conditions, along with other matters as set forth In note 2(e) of the audited financial statements Indicate that a material uncertainty exists that may cast significant doubt on Kenya Airways Pie’s ability to continue as a going concern.” Its auditors, Deloitte noted.

Kenya Airways widens loss to Sh 7.59 Billion

National carrier Kenya Airways has reported a loss of Sh 7.59 Billion for the 12 month period ended December 2018 from a loss of Sh 6.41 Billion reported in the nine month period ended in December …

kenyanwallstreet.com

Jeezas

 

[joto la jiwe]

ATCL has never bought even a spoon or plate on their planes. All money comes from the government.
All ATCL does is haemorrhage money and come back to Magufuli with another bowl.

Hahahahaha, lazima chupi zitawabana safari hii, huku KQ inatia hasara, Huku old SGR ya mkopo nayo inapata hasara, nani amewalaani Kenya?

 

[Kafrican]

Kwahivyo loss ya mwaka jana ilikuwa kubwa wakaona wa report ya 9months😆😆😆
Sasa tungojee 2019 baada ya nbo-jfk route, hiyo ndio itafika $300bn loss😂😂 pamoja wa loss ya wale walevi walio gonganisha mindege ikiwa parking👇👇👇
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Yani mpaka sasa bado haujaelewa ripoti ulioileta wewe!
2017 ndo wameweka data ya 9 months.
2018 ndo wameweka full 12 month data ya 12 months.

Hahahahaha, wewe acha kupiga kelele, katika biashara yoyote kitu muhimu ni profit, sasa kuna faida gani kuwa na biashara kubwa lakini inapata hasara hakuna faida?.

Tell me, jirani yako ana Duka kubwa Mara mbili ya Duka lako na wafanyakazi 100 lakini anapata hasara kila mwaka, na wewe una Duka dogo na wafanyakazi 5 lakini unapata faida na huna deni, ipi ni better?. Ninahisi kwa wakenya mtachagua Duka kubwa lenye kutengeneza hasara kwasababu ninyi ni wapenda SIFA za kijinga.

In the same spirit ... Tz ni nchi yenye Uchumi mzuri kuliko Marekani manake Marekani wamekua waki struggle kutengeneza faida zaidi kama nchi in the last decade lakini Tz imekua ikitengeneza crazy profits Kwa kila sector ya Uchumi in the last decade Uchumi unakua kwa zaidi ya 7% kila mwaka! Hongereni Tanzania Kwa kuipiku Marekani na kua na the best economic model!!!!

 

[kennedy0000]

Hahahahaha, lazima chupi zitawabana safari hii, huku KQ inatia hasara, Huku old SGR ya mkopo nayo inapata hasara, nani amewalaani Kenya?

Meanwhile, Equity bank buys Tanzanian bank - https://www.businessdailyafrica.com...h10bn-deal/4003102-5094148-7tdxy5z/index.html

Alafu usisahau Safaricom wanatangaza full year results this week. Safaricom utakumbuka mwaka jana ilipata faida kubwa kuliko top 10 companies in Tanzania combined.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Meanwhile, Equity bank buys Tanzanian bank - https://www.businessdailyafrica.com...h10bn-deal/4003102-5094148-7tdxy5z/index.html

Alafu usisahau Safaricom wanatangaza full year results this week. Safaricom utakumbuka mwaka jana ilipata faida kubwa kuliko top 10 companies in Tanzania combined.

Sisi tunalinganisha serikali ya Kenya na Tanzania, acha kulea uvundo, serikali yenu imejaa wakikuyu acha kukimbia ukweli, acheni ukabila anzeni kuandamana serikali yenu inawaibia mchana kweupe.

 

[eliakeem]

Very dumb people in Tanzania. Including the 'economists'.
Comparing 9-month losses to 12 month losses.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019-04-30-kenya-airways-reports-sh59-billion-net-loss-in-2018/

Even so, the airline’s management has defended the increase, stating that financial year 2018/19 covered 12 months compared to nine months the previous year.

"This therefore means that the 2018 results are not directly comparable with the 2017 results as it is a representative of 12 months against the 9 months in 2017," Chairman Michael Joseph said.

Ahaaa haaa haaa
Those are laymen arguments.
If you don't understand ratio analysis of financial report it's better you shut up. Jaribu kuficha upumbavu wako.

 

[kennedy0000]

Ahaaa haaa haaa
Those are laymen arguments.
If you don't understand ratio analysis of financial report it's better you shut up. Jaribu kuficha upumbavu wako.