Kagame on Karake

Kagame on Karake

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As we speak, we are in a struggle where we want to determine for ourselves what we want to be, and not allowing someone else to decide for us.

It is not an isolated case, it is one of many cases that remind us how hard it is to travel on that journey of self-determination, to make choices for our future, of who we want to become.

We have one of our senior government officials; the head of our security and intelligence organisation, a general, a freedom fighter; somebody who fought with us to make this country what it has become. He was picked off the street in London. An official, going to perform duties that fall in his responsibilities, is arrested as he is boarding a plane to come back home.

From that we are told, there was a request from Spain that this person is wanted in Spain and therefore should be extradited to Spain for whatever crimes Spain says they want him for.

We are also told that UK has a legal obligation to hand this person over to Spain and it doesn't matter what facts, what circumstances, and what context; he must be handed over. It is an obligation. But that is very selective.

Because UK has another legal obligation. The legal obligation is: this is an official of the State of Rwanda, an official of a people who respect themselves, who don't offend others. A people who want to decide what they become. Not UK, not France, not Spain, deciding what they become. It will never happen.

Just picked a security chief on the street like one of those thugs. According to them, there is no legal obligation they have towards Rwanda for their official, somebody with diplomatic status; because there is this other obligation they have towards Spain.

But look at the depth of this matter. First, it is France, then Spain, now it is the UK. I don't know who is coming next. All directed to inconvenience, to destabilise, to just show the absolute contempt they have for Rwanda and for Africa. It is absolute contempt.

Something African, something Rwandan doesn't feature anywhere in their considerations when it comes to making choices. It's not the first time and it's not going to be the last time.

But any decent human being, any decent Rwandan, any decent African, even any decent person from those countries, cannot accept this. Absolutely not.

In fact, sometimes I feel like being cynical about it. But let me put it this way: I think it is good, I really feel happy that of all people, it happens to us, to Rwandans. Maybe if it had happened somewhere else, it would just disappear. But here, it is happening to the right people. The right people who want to stand up to it and who will always stand up to it.

I am happy that such people pick on us, they pick on Rwanda to be the one they treat like this. We are up to the job in many ways.

We don't have the power of wealth, or military strength, of technology, of all kind of things these countries have pride in. But we have a couple of things. We have the power of the spirit.

We have the power of being underrated. The power that comes from anger of being held in contempt. The power that comes from the anger of being insulted. The power that comes from the anger of being pushed against the wall. Because when that happens and when we are left with nothing else, building on that spirit, we come back in full strength.

We have the power of resilience. We have the power that derives from the anger of the historical attempt to wipe us off the surface of the earth, and we refused to go.

Those who want or were behind or associated with the genocide that happened here in Rwanda, did not reach the point they wanted to reach. Not because they changed their mind on the way, or because they forgave us. But because they failed to achieve it. They won't achieve it now. They won't achieve it today.

People may think they can put us down, but they'll never take us out. We are a decent people. People of enough strength to not accept this rubbish of injustice.

I kept reading comments in social media, and I happened to read something about somebody, a really useless African but who's held in high esteem, writing that, you see, it is right for these people to be arresting Karenzi, because it is time to do justice, that the victims of genocide got justice, now it is the time for justice for others.

What that means to me, the history of my country isn't the history we read in books, it's the history we have lived.

The question in my mind, was so really the victims of genocide got justice? But is it what the victims, those people who were targeted in genocide, before genocide happened, were thinking about? Did they say, let genocide happen and we will get justice?

In other words, it was okay to lose one million people, as long as there was going to be something that looked like justice at the end of it. This person who works for human rights who was saying that must have gone nuts!

We did not need genocide here in Rwanda. If he wants it for other people, let him recommend that. We did not want it. It's as if Rwandans chose justice after they have got genocide. But have they even got justice?

Every single day, they are all over the place chasing, hunting down people who actually fought, sacrificed and stopped genocide. They protect and take pride in associating with those who actually perpetuated it. They do.

Those capitals are full of people who carried out genocide here in Rwanda. If you are saying those who stopped it should be tried for stopping it, or for any mistakes some individuals could have made during that time, and you equate it to genocide, well again, it is an issue of being selective.

Why don't they look a little bit back in their history? What the history would have suggested would have been to try those people who stopped those who were carrying out the Holocaust. In Nuremberg, they should have tried the Allied forces that stopped the Holocaust, they should have charged and tried those who fought the Nazis. Why didn't it happen? Because it's not an African situation.

Today, all these stories you hear about, in fact is what they don't say out there. Spain wants somebody from Rwanda, for anything. Spain has never asked Rwanda to try or discuss whatever issues they need to talk about relating to whatever they have in mind about justice. It is actually Rwanda that has several times gone to Spain and asked them: what is your problem? It's like they don't have to say anything. They will wait until somebody is out, or they create these cases to actually inconvenience people, so that they don't travel anywhere to do their business.

These judges and others who were sworn in today can tell me, they are learned people in matters of law: I want to understand under what circumstances the laws of countries like ours, or others, become completely subordinate to the laws of other countries, to the point that other countries will say "we think somebody did something in your country, we want them here to answer"?

And sometimes these cases are decided on by village judges. Village judges. Like you have one in our villages. Judges over there operating on their own, summoning and saying to a country that they want their Minister. They wag their finger. That tells a story.

We have discussed this matter between Europe and Africa in our last meeting of Head of States and Government in Brussels - this matter came up very well. It has been discussed at an AU summit. But every time they decide to shelve it because they want this kind of situation to go on and on forever.

It is history repeating itself in a different form. It is a continuation of slavery, of colonialism, of arrogance, bigotry and telling the Africans, wagging a finger at them and saying "this is where you belong". We are no longer the African that belongs there.

But there are Africans who belong there. Even among us. Even those who sit and drink and live with us. And these are the Africans preferred by those countries because in the end they serve their interests.

One typical example, in fact, is even associated with this case. We have Rwandans who are out there who exiled themselves under all sorts of claims. But all of them have cases to answer here. All of them. Not a single one doesn't have a case to answer here. Not a single one of them. If you check their records, some ran away, they used to be in the army and they committed a series of crimes. They are there, on record. Others used to work in the places you know.

One of them used to work for me. And the only thing he can talk about, the only thing he can take pride in, is having worked for me. That's the only thing. Nothing else. And he ran away twice. He deserted and asked for mercy to come back to work. We allowed him to come back then he worked for some time, he got into another mess and he ran away again. But when he is out there, this is the man Himbara, you hear of him every day, even yesterday he was on radio talking about this case.

Of course these are the people these countries find very important to associate with. And you know the reason? Among them, you have seen this BBC documentary, the so-called ‘Untold Story'. What they are talking about is not the untold story.

The untold story is what underlies that documentary. The untold story is that these countries and the people who are behind it want to change the narrative into one that lacks the actual story of what happened in Rwanda that they were so deeply involved in.

They want to mask it by saying "No it is not us. These are the savages of Africa who kill each other. The genocide was between the Hutus and Tutsis; this is the normal thing in Africa, it is the normal thing in Rwanda. These blacks turn on each other and kill one another. It's the normal thing. For us we have nothing to do with those things that happened."

So that they retain the moral ground on which to always operate from, dictating to the very Africans. But it is not us. We are people of high standing and above these fellows.

Of course inadvertently they make one big mistake. How do you maintain any credible ground by associating with criminals who feed you, who advise you, who you want to flaunt as the people who respect democracy and human rights, "they have run to us, the government in Rwanda was about to kill them".

Kill them? Since when did we become killers? These same people have killed more people than they can claim Africans ever killed. Among those killed, they have killed Africans, millions of Africans.

How then do we become killers? How do we give our lives to save our country and our people, and at the end of the day, we are killers? Just because you hobnob with these foolish fellows, actual criminals, in your country, who you use as witnesses, the ones with "credible evidence" that so and so did this. You are using criminals.

How can you take pride in hobnobbing with criminals? These Rwandans they use, even those who gave advice to those who arrested Karenzi are criminals from here.

One of them happens to now have dual citizenship, he is British and Rwandan. People see him on twitter every day, a fellow called René Mugenzi. How he wants to be of political influence in UK and then in Rwanda at same time, is going to be difficult. And there is another thug from our army who ran away, a criminal called Marara.

They move around and tell police that the head of security in Rwanda is in town, we feel threatened, because he will kill us. "Oh, OK, we'll go for him." That is one of the things that happened. Because this man, Karenzi, was arrested three or four days after.

In fact, we didn't know, that is how much these fellows hold us in contempt. But these fellows knew. They were already writing, those of you who follow online news, these fellows Rene, Marara and some of their foreign friends living in Canada, and one in the US.

They were already writing talking about the arrest of this man on 17th of June. We are told that it is when the indictment, the request for extradition came from Spain. As for us, we only knew when he was being arrested. These people have already formed their own imaginary state of Rwanda, that leaves out who they work with, to determine what happens to us. This is not serious. Absolutely not serious. How can this be?

As I said last time I was here, somebody says we are really good friends, we even support your development, which we appreciate by the way. But do you support my development and take away my dignity at the same time? Are you really helping me because you despise me? Is that the meaning? You support my development but at the same time despise me. You hold me in contempt. This level of disdain is just unacceptable. To tell me, you are not good enough., you are not relevant enough, to deserve any respect from me.

This is what the story is about. So now how can the argument be extradition? You want to extradite this Rwandan general to Spain? No, you should not have arrested him in the first place. There are no grounds under which anyone should have arrested our chief of intelligence under any circumstance.

We are talking about justice. Justice has a course that it follows, which respects certain norms. So I don't understand the grounds on which we talk about extradition.

Extradition to where? What right does Spain or any country have in this matter, to try Rwanda, to try this head of intelligence?

What right did this country have to arrest him in this manner, let alone now talk about extradition?

None of these things have any basis. They don't have anything other than absolute arrogance and holding people in contempt. It is the only basis.

People talk about rule of law and they respect their laws, you can't treat people like this. If this is how Africans must be treated, imagine if we arrested, even for a good reason, one of their chiefs of anything? Is that even thinkable? You know what would happen.

But it is easy to do it to the Africans. I think they must have mistaken him, you know, for this problem they have with illegal immigrants, these fellows who are sinking in boats in the Mediterranean, these brothers, sisters and children of ours.

The way they treat them is the way they treat this minister from Africa, head of intelligence. They really must have mistaken him for an illegal immigrant. What was he looking for? They know that he works with them, he has been working together with them on many sensitive things. That's how they turn around.

But of course, again, in other places, Africans or black people have become shooting practice targets. You know when people are learning to shoot they have dummies made from paper or something. We Africans and other blacks we have become targets for shooting practice of trigger happy people. Whenever they want to learn to fire bullets, they practice on us. That is how far it has gone.

They want to hold in esteem the Africans who the Africans don't respect at all. They are the ones they respect. Like these fellows I was talking about, criminals, petty criminals and thugs literally. These Himbaras and their sponsors. There is a man who used to be a businessman here called Rujugiro. We found out he's the one who financed the hearing which Himbara had in another friendly country. Himbara appearing anywhere to talk about Rwanda, can you imagine? Why don't they invite one of you to go and talk about Rwanda? Why do they invite Himbara? Because he has a bad story to tell about us.

Well, if there are bad stories about us, we will take care of that ourselves. You don't have to take care of me; you don't have to take care of my bad story. I don't take care of your bad story. If there are any wrongs here, if there are things that need to be put right, and there will always be things to put right, absolutely, we should be the people who can put them right.

But for somebody else to want to put right the wrong they may be preserving here is not the way to do business. I think they've run this kind of business for so long that they've gotten too used to it. Pulling back from it is almost impossible for them. Every day it is sweeter to keep practicing the same thing, even as it gets worse with us and makes us angrier every day.

So we come here, swear in ministers, judges, MPs, and we just go. We go and do what? If we don't internalise this and understand it. Any decent human being, any decent Rwandan, any decent anybody cannot accept that people will do to us whatever they want, because they can. No. We will do things with people because it is the right thing to do. And they should be doing with us, or to us, the right things. Not just because they can.

So we will keep our heads cool. You need to keep your heads cool, because these things can drive you to a level of anger where you can even make a mistake.

So just keep your heads cool, I'm trying to keep mine cool, I'm really trying. I'm struggling, I'm not finding it easy, but I know I have to keep the calm, that is necessary to do things right. It is important. Otherwise the anger that people might have about what others do to us can drive people crazy. They can influence people to make mistakes. And we shouldn't make mistakes. But that doesn't mean we can accept any mistake being done against us.

I think, in the end, we must and will prevail. It doesn't matter how long. We learned in our earlier days to be patient. But be patient and not just hope for time. Time is important and so is patience. But it is also what you do in that time. Don't just sit back and say you are patiently waiting it out. You must be patient while you are doing something.

These struggles we have been in, they take a long time. They require a lot of patience. But even more, they require a lot of hard thinking and a lot of doing. And simply have the right spirit that won't be easily broken.

So those who take us on, we advise them that we are aware that we are in it for the long haul. We can absorb a lot of these things and still remain with our heads high.

There are too many things to say, I think I should allow you time to go have your own thinking, and more doing of things that can make our country better, in spite of all these things that happen to us.

Thank you very much.

Source: The Independent
 
So we will keep our heads cool. You need to keep your heads cool, because these things can drive you to a level of anger where you can even make a mistake.

So just keep your heads cool, I'm trying to keep mine cool, I'm really trying. I'm struggling, I'm not finding it easy, but I know I have to keep the calm, that is necessary to do things right. It is important.

Otherwise the anger that people might have about what others do to us can drive people crazy. They can influence people to make mistakes. And we shouldn't make mistakes. But that doesn't mean we can accept any mistake being done against us.
 
PaKa anaweweseka. Next ni yeye mwenyewe. Walidhani damu ya mtu inamwagika bure!..

Ha ha ha interahamwe comedy sana nyie,after Kagame turn up on your azzes now the murderers mmekuwa innocent victims..mtaadabishwa tuu no matter how long it takes.
 
Imenigusa sana hii hotuba. Pamoja na makandokando mengi ya Kagame lakini kuna mambo ya msingi sana ameyasema yanayogusa heshima na utu wetu Wafrika kwa ujumla. Ngoja nitafute taarifa nyingine za upande wa pili niione hii picha kubwa inayoendelea kwa jirani.
 
Wauaji wanapaka rangi za Damu ktk kuta zetu
 
Ha ha ha interahamwe comedy sana nyie,after Kagame turn up on your azzes now the murderers mmekuwa innocent victims..mtaadabishwa tuu no matter how long it takes.
....you are the murderers too; don't think that the world id blind of actually what happened in those 100 days...yes the hutus killed people, and you fueled the fire. So you are both murderers. Don't clothe yourself with innocence while you actually know what you did. You seek sympathy by your "tutsi genocide" slogan...mnatia huruma!....Don't think that you are above GOD. Everything will be laid bare in a very near future. That is why your PaKa wants a "third term" as his escape route. He will be caught one day!
 
Imenigusa sana hii hotuba. Pamoja na makandokando mengi ya Kagame lakini kuna mambo ya msingi sana ameyasema yanayogusa heshima na utu wetu Wafrika kwa ujumla. Ngoja nitafute taarifa nyingine za upande wa pili niione hii picha kubwa inayoendelea kwa jirani.

Mkuu nakubaliana na diplomatic tone ya PK. Lakini anachosema sana sana ni heshima ya mwanadiplomasia wa Afrika. Ajabu amesema kuwa "kuna watu walifanya makosa katika mapambano dhidi ya genocide" lakini alichosema ni kuwa jamaa wanatakiwa kuwa huru na hawana kosa, kama walivyokuwa huru walioua wajerumani na wanazi wakati wa vita ya pili ya dunia.
 
Mkuu nakubaliana na diplomatic tone ya PK. Lakini anachosema sana sana ni heshima ya mwanadiplomasia wa Afrika. Ajabu amesema kuwa "kuna watu walifanya makosa katika mapambano dhidi ya genocide" lakini alichosema ni kuwa jamaa wanatakiwa kuwa huru na hawana kosa, kama walivyokuwa huru walioua wajerumani na wanazi wakati wa vita ya pili ya dunia.

Msingi wa madai yake ni kwanini kuwe na double-standards? Wakifanya western ni sawa lakini tukifanya sisi ni nongwa. Wanyarwanda wameamua yaliyopita yamepita. Hawataki kurudi nyuma.

Makosa yamefanyika, watu wameuawa lakini hatuwezi kusimamia hapo na kuanza kushutumiana na kurudisha kumbukumbu zile mbaya; mwisho wa siku itatengeneza genocide nyingine. Naamini Kagame ana hoja nzito sana inayohitaji jicho la pili kuing'amua.
 
kwa hali hii akisema anaendelea na term ya 3 cjui atajificha wap? anadai we are in for a long haul? really? this guy is deluded fool he will be brought down in no time!!!!
 
Mkuu nakubaliana na diplomatic tone ya PK. Lakini anachosema sana sana ni heshima ya mwanadiplomasia wa Afrika. Ajabu amesema kuwa "kuna watu walifanya makosa katika mapambano dhidi ya genocide" lakini alichosema ni kuwa jamaa wanatakiwa kuwa huru na hawana kosa, kama walivyokuwa huru walioua wajerumani na wanazi wakati wa vita ya pili ya dunia.

kusema mauaji ya kagame na RPF ni "makosa" ni sawa na kusema mauaji ya interahamwe ni "makosa" katika kupambana na waasi wa RPF! Makosa yanayowakabili RPF na Kagame ni yale yale ya war crimes ambayo yamewafunga wanajeshi wa serikali ya zamani ya Rwanda. Hiyo ndio maana kulikuwa na hati za mashtaka dhidi yake kutoka MAHAKAMA ILE ILE YA ICTR iliyohukumu wahalifu wengine.
Pili, kwa mujibu wake mwenyewe 'genocide' iliisha ndani ya siku 100, lakini mauaji ya mamilioni ambayo anatuhumiwa kufanya yamefanyika BAADA ya siku hizo mia moja. Huwezi kusema aliua ili 'kupambana na genocide' ambayo tayari yeye mwenyewe alisema alishaimaliza!
 
Msingi wa madai yake ni kwanini kuwe na double-standards? Wakifanya western ni sawa lakini tukifanya sisi ni nongwa. Wanyarwanda wameamua yaliyopita yamepita. Hawataki kurudi nyuma.

Makosa yamefanyika, watu wameuawa lakini hatuwezi kusimamia hapo na kuanza kushutumiana na kurudisha kumbukumbu zile mbaya; mwisho wa siku itatengeneza genocide nyingine. Naamini Kagame ana hoja nzito sana inayohitaji jicho la pili kuing'amua.

1. Sio kweli kuwa 'wanyarwanda wameamua'. Kagame ni dikteta kama alivyo Kim jong, hivi unaweza kumuamini Kim jong akisema wa North korea wameamua? Au Iddi Amin akisema waganda wameamua? Mugabe akisema 'wazimbabwe wananipenda sana wanataka niendelee kuwa kiongozi wao'? Hakuna uhuru wa habari Rwanda, waandishi walio kinyume wanapigwa risasi, wanafunguliwa mashtaka ya uongo, wanawindwa hata nje ya Rwanda. Wanasiasa wanaokwenda kinyume na matakwa ya Kagame wanawekwa jela n.k. Ukitaka kujua mambo ya Rwanda tafuta wanyarwanda walio nje ya Rwanda, kama ambavyo ukitaka kujua ukweli kuhusu Mugabe uliza 1/3 ya wazimbabwe walio SA!
2. Makosa yamefanyika ni kweli. Lakini kwa nini upande wa Kagame/RPF usihukumiwe kama ambavyo upande wa wahutu umehukumiwa? Genocide haitatokea kwa sababu ya kuchagiza justice, itatokea iwapo justice haitafanyika. Hata South Africa baada ya apartheid waliweka tume ya kujadili yaliyotokea na ndio kilicholeta amani SA.
 
Msingi wa madai yake ni kwanini kuwe na double-standards? Wakifanya western ni sawa lakini tukifanya sisi ni nongwa. Wanyarwanda wameamua yaliyopita yamepita. Hawataki kurudi nyuma.

Makosa yamefanyika, watu wameuawa lakini hatuwezi kusimamia hapo na kuanza kushutumiana na kurudisha kumbukumbu zile mbaya; mwisho wa siku itatengeneza genocide nyingine. Naamini Kagame ana hoja nzito sana inayohitaji jicho la pili kuing'amua.

Mkuu nakubaliana na pia napinga. Nakubaliana na suala la double standards, kwa kawaida kila nchi inatakiwa kulinda watu wake. Spain itakuwa imefanya sawa kuchukua hatua dhidi ya walioua watu wake. Lakini sikubalianio na kuchagua wanyonge, kuna nchi nyingine zimeua wahispania lakini kwa kuwa ni wakubwa hawakamatwi. Kwa mfano kwa tafsiri zote George Bush na Dick Cheney ni wauaji, lakinaia sidhani kama watakuja kamatwa.

Napingana na wewe kusema eti wanyarwanda wamesema yaliyopita yamepita. Unatakiwa kukumbuka kuwa justice inafanyika kwa wale walioua watutsi, walioua wahutu bado hakuna justice. Na wahanga na ndugu zao wapo.
Nasikia kuna nyumba nyngi zinajengwa Rwanda kwa ajili ya watusi wajane wa mauaji ya Inerhamwe, lakini wajane wahutu hakuna. Hii inaweza kukufanya ujiulize ni nini?

Ndio maana ndugu zetu wanyarwanda bado wanasafari kuhusiana na hii issue. I hope they will deal with it.
 
kwa hali hii akisema anaendelea na term ya 3 cjui atajificha wap? anadai we are in for a long haul? really? this guy is deluded fool he will be brought down in no time!!!!

Well, if i was Rwandese i would definitely go for PK. It has to be long haul in deed. kama kweli lengo ni kukamata muuaji wakamate muuaji, sio kuchagua.
 
Mkuu jMali juzi kati nilibahatika kukutana na Prof mtanzania aliyefundisha Kigali Institute of Science and Technology mambo aliyoniambia nilibaki kinywa wazi.

Mosi walipofika Rwanda walikwenda moja kwa moja ubalozi wa Tanzania na wakaambiwa mabo yafuatayo.
a, wanapokuwa katika matembezi kila mara wasisahau kubeba passport na dola 20 kwasababu saa,siku yoyote hali ya mambo inaweza kubadilika ghafla.Hawatakuwa na muda wa kufuata pass za kusafiria nyumbani.Pili dola wanazozibeba ni kwaajili ya kutoa hongo ili waweze kuondoka kwa haraka iwapo hali itabadilika.

Pili,wasijaribu kufanya urafiki na wanawake wa kinywarwanda hasa watutsi (ni warembo) lakini mara nyingi ni rahisi sana kutumika hasa wakijua una fedha nyingi za kigeni hawakawi kukufanyizia wakishirikiana na vibaka au taasisi za serekali.

Tatu,usifanye utani au kutania kama Tanzania Mpare na Mchagga wanaweza kutaniana na likaonekana ni jambo la kawaida kule ukileta utani wa kikabila utafungwa mara moja.

Nne,Maisha ya chuo kikuu vijana wa kihutu wana akili na bidii kubwa katika masomo ila nafasi za kazi zikitokea priority ni kwa kabila la kitutsi hasa zile nafasi kubwa na zenye maamuzi makubwa.Wahutu wanabaguliwa sana hasa katika ajira serekali ambayo ndio muajiri mkubwa.

Tano,wanajeshi wa RPF baada ya kushinda vita walinyakua ardhi nzuri yenye rutuba,hata Kagame mwenyewe ana shamba kubwa kwaajili ya kufuga na kilimo.

Sita,jeshi la RPF toka mwaka 1994 mpaka leo mwaka 2015 miaka 21 limeshikwa na kabila la kitutsi kuanzia mkuu wa jeshi,mkuu wa utawala,mkuu wa mafunzo,mkuu wa utumishi,mkuu wa ujasusi wote ni watustsi si rahisi kumtii rais ambae si mtutsi.Siku ikitokea rais mhutu hakika hatoweza kutawala zaidi ya mwaka mmoja.Na hilo ndio tatizo la Burundi ambalo Nkurunzinza alikumbana nalo.

Saba,Wizara zote muhimu zinaongozwa na watutsi na ikitokea mhutu ni kiongozi basi chini yake anawekwa mtutsi ambaye anakuwa na nguvu kuliko boss wake.

Nane,Rwanda imezidiwa na wingi wa watu ukilinganisha na ukubwa wa eneo lake.Raia wake wengi wamekimbilia Congo ambako pia Kagame anataka kueneza utawala wake.Tanzania ingelegea Kagame anageweza kutuleta fujo anazoleta Congo.


1. Sio kweli kuwa 'wanyarwanda wameamua'. Kagame ni dikteta kama alivyo Kim jong, hivi unaweza kumuamini Kim jong akisema wa North korea wameamua? Au Iddi Amin akisema waganda wameamua? Mugabe akisema 'wazimbabwe wananipenda sana wanataka niendelee kuwa kiongozi wao'? Hakuna uhuru wa habari Rwanda, waandishi walio kinyume wanapigwa risasi, wanafunguliwa mashtaka ya uongo, wanawindwa hata nje ya Rwanda. Wanasiasa wanaokwenda kinyume na matakwa ya Kagame wanawekwa jela n.k. Ukitaka kujua mambo ya Rwanda tafuta wanyarwanda walio nje ya Rwanda, kama ambavyo ukitaka kujua ukweli kuhusu Mugabe uliza 1/3 ya wazimbabwe walio SA!
2. Makosa yamefanyika ni kweli. Lakini kwa nini upande wa Kagame/RPF usihukumiwe kama ambavyo upande wa wahutu umehukumiwa? Genocide haitatokea kwa sababu ya kuchagiza justice, itatokea iwapo justice haitafanyika. Hata South Africa baada ya apartheid waliweka tume ya kujadili yaliyotokea na ndio kilicholeta amani SA.
 
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Mkuu jMali juzi kati nilibahatika kukutana na Prof mtanzania aliyefundisha Kigali Institute of Science and Technology mambo aliyoniambia nilibaki kinywa wazi.

Mosi walipofika Rwanda walikwenda moja kwa moja ubalozi wa Tanzania na wakaambiwa mabo yafuatayo.
a, wanapokuwa katika matembezi kila mara wasisahau kubeba passport na dola 20 kwasababu saa,siku yoyote hali ya mambo inaweza kubadilika ghafla.Hawatakuwa na muda wa kufuata pass za kusafiria nyumbani.Pili dola wanazozibeba ni kwaajili ya kutoa hongo ili waweze kuondoka kwa haraka iwapo hali itabadilika.

Pili,wasijaribu kufanya urafiki na wanawake wa kinywarwanda hasa watutsi (ni warembo) lakini mara nyingi ni rahisi sana kutumika hasa wakijua una fedha nyingi za kigeni hawakawi kukufanyizia wakishirikiana na vibaka au taasisi za serekali.

Tatu,usifanye utani au kutania kama Tanzania Mpare na Mchagga wanaweza kutaniana na likaonekana ni jambo la kawaida kule ukileta utani wa kikabila utafungwa mara moja.

Nne,Maisha ya chuo kikuu vijana wa kihutu wana akili na bidii kubwa katika masomo ila nafasi za kazi zikitokea priority ni kwa kabila la kitutsi hasa zile nafasi kubwa na zenye maamuzi makubwa.Wahutu wanabaguliwa sana hasa katika ajira serekali ambayo ndio muajiri mkubwa.

Tano,wanajeshi wa RPF baada ya kushinda vita walinyakua ardhi nzuri yenye rutuba,hata Kagame mwenyewe ana shamba kubwa kwaajili ya kufuga na kilimo.

Sita,jeshi la RPF toka mwaka 1994 mpaka leo mwaka 2015 miaka 21 limeshikwa na kabila la kitutsi kuanzia mkuu wa jeshi,mkuu wa utawala,mkuu wa mafunzo,mkuu wa utumishi,mkuu wa ujasusi wote ni watustsi si rahisi kumtii rais ambae si mtutsi.Siku ikitokea rais mhutu hakika hatoweza kutawala zaidi ya mwaka mmoja.Na hilo ndio tatizo la Burundi ambalo Nkurunzinza alikumbana nalo.

Saba,Wizara zote muhimu zinaongozwa na watutsi na ikitokea mhutu ni kiongozi basi chini yake anawekwa mtutsi ambaye anakuwa na nguvu kuliko boss wake.

Nane,Rwanda imezidiwa na wingi wa watu ukilinganisha na ukubwa wa eneo lake.Raia wake wengi wamekimbilia Congo ambako pia Kagame anataka kueneza utawala wake.Tanzania ingelegea Kagame anageweza kutuleta fujo anazoleta Congo.
hivi ni nini na ukabila wewe? huyo Prof ni mnywa gongo mwenzako? maana siku hizi nasikia kuna maprof ambao wamepinda sana tu! kwa hiyo ndoto zako jana usiku zilikuwa za kuhusiana na kwenu Rwanda halafu ukaona utuletee hapa jamiiforum? we kwa vichekesho, hata wale waliokubuhu kwa rushwa pale ubungo dollar 20 hawazikubali... siku utakapo jirudi na kukubali kuwa watutsi pia ni watu kama wewe, utarudi kwenu na hizo nightmare zakiinterahamwe zitakuisha...
 
Mkuu jMali juzi kati nilibahatika kukutana na Prof mtanzania aliyefundisha Kigali Institute of Science and Technology mambo aliyoniambia nilibaki kinywa wazi.

Mosi walipofika Rwanda walikwenda moja kwa moja ubalozi wa Tanzania na wakaambiwa mabo yafuatayo.
a, wanapokuwa katika matembezi kila mara wasisahau kubeba passport na dola 20 kwasababu saa,siku yoyote hali ya mambo inaweza kubadilika ghafla.Hawatakuwa na muda wa kufuata pass za kusafiria nyumbani.Pili dola wanazozibeba ni kwaajili ya kutoa hongo ili waweze kuondoka kwa haraka iwapo hali itabadilika.

Pili,wasijaribu kufanya urafiki na wanawake wa kinywarwanda hasa watutsi (ni warembo) lakini mara nyingi ni rahisi sana kutumika hasa wakijua una fedha nyingi za kigeni hawakawi kukufanyizia wakishirikiana na vibaka au taasisi za serekali.

Tatu,usifanye utani au kutania kama Tanzania Mpare na Mchagga wanaweza kutaniana na likaonekana ni jambo la kawaida kule ukileta utani wa kikabila utafungwa mara moja.

Nne,Maisha ya chuo kikuu vijana wa kihutu wana akili na bidii kubwa katika masomo ila nafasi za kazi zikitokea priority ni kwa kabila la kitutsi hasa zile nafasi kubwa na zenye maamuzi makubwa.Wahutu wanabaguliwa sana hasa katika ajira serekali ambayo ndio muajiri mkubwa.

Tano,wanajeshi wa RPF baada ya kushinda vita walinyakua ardhi nzuri yenye rutuba,hata Kagame mwenyewe ana shamba kubwa kwaajili ya kufuga na kilimo.

Sita,jeshi la RPF toka mwaka 1994 mpaka leo mwaka 2015 miaka 21 limeshikwa na kabila la kitutsi kuanzia mkuu wa jeshi,mkuu wa utawala,mkuu wa mafunzo,mkuu wa utumishi,mkuu wa ujasusi wote ni watustsi si rahisi kumtii rais ambae si mtutsi.Siku ikitokea rais mhutu hakika hatoweza kutawala zaidi ya mwaka mmoja.Na hilo ndio tatizo la Burundi ambalo Nkurunzinza alikumbana nalo.

Saba,Wizara zote muhimu zinaongozwa na watutsi na ikitokea mhutu ni kiongozi basi chini yake anawekwa mtutsi ambaye anakuwa na nguvu kuliko boss wake.

Nane,Rwanda imezidiwa na wingi wa watu ukilinganisha na ukubwa wa eneo lake.Raia wake wengi wamekimbilia Congo ambako pia Kagame anataka kueneza utawala wake.Tanzania ingelegea Kagame anageweza kutuleta fujo anazoleta Congo.

Jamaa yuko spot on. hayo mimi niliambiwa na wenyeji wa huko enzi hizo nilivyowaambia nataka kuhamia nchini kwao. Wakafunga milango na madirisha halafu wakacheka wakiniuliza "wenzio tunataka kukimbia wewe unataka kuhamia"? Halafu hao ni watutsi mind you!
 
Ndgugu hapana haja ya matusi katika mjadala.Kwasababu za kiusalama ningeweza kukuambia Prof sasa anasimamia mradi gani.Ameishi Rwanda miaka 12 tena mshahara wake ukilipwa na shirika la umoja wa mataifa kama sehemu ya kuisaidia Rwanda na alikuwa akinipa uzoefu wake Rwanda kipindi akifundisha.

Kuhusu dola ni hiv unatakiwa kuwa na dola hata mia lakini ziwe za kati ya 20 au 10.

hivi ni nini na ukabila wewe? huyo Prof ni mnywa gongo mwenzako? maana siku hizi nasikia kuna maprof ambao wamepinda sana tu! kwa hiyo ndoto zako jana usiku zilikuwa za kuhusiana na kwenu Rwanda halafu ukaona utuletee hapa jamiiforum? we kwa vichekesho, hata wale waliokubuhu kwa rushwa pale ubungo dollar 20 hawazikubali... siku utakapo jirudi na kukubali kuwa watutsi pia ni watu kama wewe, utarudi kwenu na hizo nightmare zakiinterahamwe zitakuisha...
 
ooh, OK let me guess! kwa vyovyote huyo prof atakuwa anasimamia miradi ya kuwatakatisha nyie Interahamwe huku akipakazia serikali tiifu ya Rwanda! sasa hizo dollar 10 au 20 ndio zikusaidie nini? ningekushauli hizo pesa uzimfikishie jMali(FDLR coordinator) awapelekee ndugu zenu kule DRC...
 
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