How JK snubbed Kagame

Massenberg · Apr 26, 2012

Chuma Chakavu said:
whether you call it arrogance or anything,Kagame has all the courage and right to say so, this patriotic guy is doing well and good for his country, Rwanda's economic progress is encouraging compared to TZ shrinking economy, tell me what can JK boast of for all his time as the president? we can prove more of his ineptitude than ability! Rwanda's success is due to the seriousness,patriotism and good leadership of their president also Mr. Kagame does not entertain or tolerate any ufisadi, he will immediately and harshly get rid of any corrupt or irresponsible leader, he has no time to waste for silly dilly dally discussions!
WE SONGA SONGA SONGA MBEEELE WE SONGA MBEELE, HATA WATU WAKUSEME KAGAME SONGA MBELE!!
sometimes i wish this guy was the TZ prez.

Mfano mmoja hai ni kwamba wakati leo sisi hatuna ndege wala shirika la ndege la taifa, Rwanda wana shirika linalokuwa lenye Boeing 737 nne zikiwemo mbili ambazo ni toleo la sasa hivi na Rwandair ndilo shirika la kwanza Afrika kuwa na ndege hizo ambazo hawajazikodi bali wamezinunua mpya kabisa. Wana Boeing 737 nyingine tena mbili pamoja na Dash 8 moja na ndege nyingine aina ya CRJ ambayo wanakusudia kuibadilisha na kupata bora zaidi.
Hii ni nyanja moja tu, tujiulize sisi tuko wapi na tunaelekea wapi?

MTK · Apr 26, 2012

majiyachai said:
Hapa ulitegemea nini? Mzalendo na mhujumu uchumi kamwe hawawezi kuelewana.

Kama ni kweli basi JK ni nafsi yake inamsuta kwa uovu anaousimamia hapa kwetu! Kagame has nothin' to lose, Kigali inapeta, shame upon him.

Red Giant · Apr 26, 2012

Phillemon Mikael said:
You can hate Kagame..but at least he have achieved somewhere.....hii nchi sio Kagame tu ...hata ukinipa Mimi....nitaifanya kuwa nchi iliyoendwelea ...tatizo mmeshajiapiza kuwa kuna watu wengine hii nchi hamtakaa muwape..........sasa ili kuchochea maendeleo na kutunza utaifa wetu .....tuweke serikali za majimbo......ili watu wafanye kazi za kuleta maendeleo ....wanaotaka kwenda taratibu...na kucheza ngoma ....wacha waendelee tu.......

Majimbo Nane yanatosha nchi hii....serikali hizi zipo kila mahali na hazijavunja utaifa zaidi zimekimbiza maendeleo ...zipo China,Russia,India,Pakistan ,south Africa ....etc...la muhimu ni kuwa hakuna jimbo hata moja litaundwa kikabilan....ie

Mashariki( pwani ,dar es salaam na morogoro)
Jimbo la Kati (Dodoma,iringa na singida,sehemu ya manyara)
Jimbo la nyanda za juu( mbeya,Njombe,katavi)
Jimbo la mangaribi ( Rukwa ,kigoma,tabora)
Jimbo la ziwa ( Kagera,mwanza,Mara)
Jimbo la kaskazini(tanga ,Kilimanjaro ,Arusha ...sehemu ya manyara)
Jimbo la kusini (Lindi,mtwara na ruvuma)
Jimbo la visiwani ( defacto Kama muungano utasema serikali tatu hii tutaita ...serikali ya Zanzibar ...litakuwa eneo lenye mamlaka yote ...ukiondoa ulinzi..au usalama wa ndani na nje...tofauti na maeneo mengine amabayo yatakuwa tu maeneo ya utawala wa kimaendeleo ....na watendaji wake wataendelea kuwa vetted na central government ...ili kuimarisha utaifa)

Serikali za majimbo zitawajibika zaidi kwa wananchi serikali kuu itaendelea kutoa muelekeo wa sera ....na kusimamia mambo...,na kusaidia majimbo.

safi sana mkuu, nilianzisha thread ya faida na hasara za mfumo wa majimbo huko jamii intelligence sema mkuu inisible anabana.

Bee hive · Apr 26, 2012

Nafikiri kati ya rasilimali ambayo wengi wetu tunaipuuzia na ambayo ni mtaji na silaha nzuri katika mafanikio yoyote, ni rasilimali AKILI. Using it correctly, yo're rich!!!!!!!!

bepari1 · Apr 26, 2012

Ribosome said:
Msidanganywe na cosmetic changes, Rwanda ni kama ki mkoa kimoja cha Tanzania na bado wana matatizo kibao pamoja na udikteta na umaskini uliokithiri.

acha uongo wewe! Mbona burundi na niger ni ndogo zaidi ya rwanda na wananchi wake wanaogelea kwenye umaskini wa kutupwa?brazil na mara mbili yetu mbona wanatuzidi kimaendeleo kama swala la ukubwa lina umuhimu? Acha ghiliba.

Umsolopogas · Apr 26, 2012

Ribosome said:
Msidanganywe na cosmetic changes, Rwanda ni kama ki mkoa kimoja cha Tanzania na bado wana matatizo kibao pamoja na udikteta na umaskini uliokithiri.

Make it no mind, jest another Boflo speaking his tiny mind out.

Mkandara · Apr 26, 2012

Phillemon Mikael said:
You can hate Kagame..but at least he have achieved somewhere.....hii nchi sio Kagame tu ...hata ukinipa Mimi....nitaifanya kuwa nchi iliyoendwelea ...tatizo mmeshajiapiza kuwa kuna watu wengine hii nchi hamtakaa muwape..........sasa ili kuchochea maendeleo na kutunza utaifa wetu .....tuweke serikali za majimbo......ili watu wafanye kazi za kuleta maendeleo ....wanaotaka kwenda taratibu...na kucheza ngoma ....wacha waendelee tu.......

Majimbo Nane yanatosha nchi hii....serikali hizi zipo kila mahali na hazijavunja utaifa zaidi zimekimbiza maendeleo ...zipo China,Russia,India,Pakistan ,south Africa ....etc...la muhimu ni kuwa hakuna jimbo hata moja litaundwa kikabilan....ie

Mashariki( pwani ,dar es salaam na morogoro)
Jimbo la Kati (Dodoma,iringa na singida,sehemu ya manyara)
Jimbo la nyanda za juu( mbeya,Njombe,katavi)
Jimbo la mangaribi ( Rukwa ,kigoma,tabora)
Jimbo la ziwa ( Kagera,mwanza,Mara)
Jimbo la kaskazini(tanga ,Kilimanjaro ,Arusha ...sehemu ya manyara)
Jimbo la kusini (Lindi,mtwara na ruvuma)
Jimbo la visiwani ( defacto Kama muungano utasema serikali tatu hii tutaita ...serikali ya Zanzibar ...litakuwa eneo lenye mamlaka yote ...ukiondoa ulinzi..au usalama wa ndani na nje...tofauti na maeneo mengine amabayo yatakuwa tu maeneo ya utawala wa kimaendeleo ....na watendaji wake wataendelea kuwa vetted na central government ...ili kuimarisha utaifa)

Serikali za majimbo zitawajibika zaidi kwa wananchi serikali kuu itaendelea kutoa muelekeo wa sera ....na kusimamia mambo...,na kusaidia majimbo.

Mkuu nirahisi sana kufikiria serikali ya Majimbo kama ingekuwa hatuna Muungano. Ni rahisi sana kwa Mbara kufikiria hivyo lakini ukimwambia Mzanzibar yetote hatakubaliana na hili hata kidogo kwa sababu bado tunawapangia wao kuwa kama Jimbo vile jambo ambalo hawakubaliani nalo. Hivyo hata Ushauri wako wa kuwa na serikali yao, ndivyo hivyo hivyo utakavyofanya ukianzisha majimbo maana hayo majimbo yatakuwa na serikali zao sawa na ile ya Zanzibar unless tutengane kabisaa.

Binafsi yangu sioni uwezekano wa kuunda majimbo wakati tunashindwa Zanzibar isimame wapi na tofauti ni zipi kwa sababu ukiyasoma madai yao wanataka ichukuliwe Tanzania kama ni Taifa la nchi mbili zilizoungana na sii Zanzibar sehemu ilomezwa na Muungano na kuwa mkoa au jimbo. Kusema kweli sioni ndani kabisa jinsi gani tunaweza unda majimbo halafu Zanzibar nao wakawa sawa na jimbo wakati hii ni nchi tuloungana nayo.

Ushauri wangu ni kuwepo na serikali Tatu kama ulivyosema, kisha serikali ya bara tunapeleka madaraka mikoani ambayo haina tofauti sana na majimbo na bila kuwahusisha Zanzibar. Kila mkoa ujitegemee kwa kiasi kikubwa zaidi ya kutegemea serikali kuu. Serikali kuu ita deal na nchi hizi mbili kiutawala basi...Kila mkoa utakuwa na uchaguzi wa viongozi wake toka mkuu wa mkoa, wilaya, halmshauri, wabunge wawakilishi ktk bunge la Bara na mabaraza yake, halafu tutakuwa na Bunge la Muungano, na senetors ambao watatuwakilisha kama Taifa. Muundo wa serikali ya Zanzibar sidhani kama inatuhusu kuwalazimisha kuwa jimbo wakati sivyo..

sheky · Apr 26, 2012

Ukweli suala la majimbo na kuwa na federal government ndio njia. kuna watu ambao bado wao wanaona maisha ni starehe hawa itabidi wabakie kidogo wakicheza. Wanaoelewa wataondoka na kuweka mambo vizuri, nchi ni kubwa ina raslimali chekwa ina watu wenye akili wengi japo wafuatao upepo pia wapo. (Wakielimishwa naamini wataamka) Kagame amesema kweli na siku zote ninaheshimu watu ambao wanaona kwa macho ya visionary sio halucination.

654 · Apr 26, 2012

It would be prudent for us all to research on issues before we submit fiery cooment that when taken on their face value will mislead and in the process undervalue the credebility of the brains making the JF.
Dont we have a JF member versed with Protocols on this matter to settle this matter once and for all?
We could then start a thread on the achievements of the two JK and PK.

Sijali · Apr 26, 2012

RUTAJUMBUKIRWA said:
Balozi mpya wa Rwanda alikabidhi hati zake kwa Bernard Membe ambaye alikuwa amevalia shati nyeupi alafu nje, yaani barazani wizarani. Hii ilikuwa ni tofauti na utamaduni wa kidplomasia, ambapo balozi huwasilisha kwa mkuu wa nchi na kukagua gwaride...This is because JK hakutaka kusikia chochote kutoka kwa Kagame, the arrogant guy of Kigali. Nasikia they dont see eye to eye because Kagame aliwahi kusema eti akipewa Tanzania na raslimari zake ataifanya kuwa first world country! Arrogance!Na jamaa hawa hawataki kabisa kuonana tena, na mkutano wa kujadili maombi ya sudani kusini kuingia EAC bila shaka mmoja atamtuma waziri mkuu wake na mwingine makamu wa raisi

Hapo naona arrogant ni Kikwete. Pia, itifaki za Kimataifa huwezi kuzichezea kwa wivu wivu wa kike kama huo. Kama hayo maneno aliyasema kweli Kagame, ingebidi JK naye amrudishie kwa kujivunia mafanikio ya Tanzania au, kwa kuonesha mapungufu ya uongozi wa Kagame!

How JK snubbed Kagame

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