Here's why the Navy didn't shoot down the Russian fighter jets that buzzed by a US destroyer

jean phillipe beyun

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On Tuesday, two Russian warplanes flew simulated attack passes past the USS Donald Cook in the Baltic Sea, and while the move was unnerving and aggressive, it's not the kind of event the Navy responds to with force.

"You don’t get to kill people just because they’re being annoying," retired frigate and cruiser commanding officer Capt. Rick Hoffman told the Navy Times about the incident.

"We’re not at war with Russia," Capt. Rick Hoffman said.

"It would be one thing to be operating and have a threatening attack profile from someone who might not recognize me — that’s not the case here."

As a former commander of a cruiser that protected aircraft carriers and amphibious-assault vehicles from airborne attacks, Hoffman knows how to deal with threatening aircraft.

The Russian planes, Su-24s, had no visible weapons during the passes, and at no point did the USS Cook detect that the Russians were trying to lock onto them with a missile.

Though the passes likely violated a 1973 agreement between the US and Russia and were a clear act of aggression, downing a plane likely means the death of the pilot, which was simply not warranted given the situation.

According to Hoffman, this stunt most likely took place to generate propaganda for Russian President Vladimir Putin's regime.

"It would be real interesting to see what shows up in the Russian papers in the morning, how they play it," Hoffman said.

"It's not that different from North Korea," he said. "He does something and then he plays it domestically however he needs to play it for the purposes of getting his people energized."

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Na ndio mazingira kama haya uturuki ili shoot down ndege ya Russia ikiwa imeingia katika anga ya uturuki, Russia ina behave kama cold war era
 
Na ndio mazingira kama haya uturuki ili shoot down ndege ya Russia ikiwa imeingia katika anga ya uturuki, Russia ina behave kama cold war era
Tabia hii ya Russia imekua common sasa, si mara ya kwanza ni very unprofessional, just imagine kwa ukaribu ule viongozi wa ile destroyer ya marekani wangekua na akili kama za warusi Waka shoot down ile fighter jet ingekuaje?

Maana ile meli ilikua armed na makombora na systems mbali mbali, ni busara tu ya captain wa meli kuwaaambia wenzie waachane na hiyo ndege maana haikua imebeba makombora kwenye mabawa yake hivyo waipotezee tu

Sasa ndege ingeangushwa ndipo ungesikia kelele za Russia, Ingawa urusi imekanusha Madai ya marekani lakini hii ni kawaida ya urusi kufanya hivyo Na kukanusha,
Hizo ni old tricks
 
Tabia hii ya Russia imekua common sasa, si mara ya kwanza ni very unprofessional, just imagine kwa ukaribu ule viongozi wa ile destroyer ya marekani wangekua na akili kama za warusi Waka shoot down ile fighter jet ingekuaje?

Maana ile meli ilikua armed na makombora na systems mbali mbali, ni busara tu ya captain wa meli kuwaaambia wenzie waachane na hiyo ndege maana haikua imebeba makombora kwenye mabawa yake hivyo waipotezee tu

Sasa ndege ingeangushwa ndipo ungesikia kelele za Russia, Ingawa urusi imekanusha Madai ya marekani lakini hii ni kawaida ya urusi kufanya hivyo Na kukanusha,
Hizo ni old tricks
Sema wamarekani wangekuwa na akili kama za watururuki ndio wangeilipua
 
Mtu atoke kwake kilomita kibao anakuja kufanyia mazoezi ya kung fu mlangoni kwako,na unatakiwa ukae kimya unamwangalia tu?

America should leave them alone and go home
Ni kwenye international waters na sio mlangoni kwa Russia, najua umekuja na ushabiki Bila Hoja

Kwa mazingira Yale unayodai waliweka rehani maisha ya pilot wao, ndege ya Russia haikua na silaha, hivyo ilikwenda mikono mitupu, sasa unaendaje kujihami mikono mitupu tena dhidi ya meli giant iliyosheheni silaha mbali mbali?
Huo ni utoto msemo wa John kerry
 
Mtu atoke kwake kilomita kibao anakuja kufanyia mazoezi ya kung fu mlangoni kwako,na unatakiwa ukae kimya unamwangalia tu?

America should leave them alone and go home
unaambiwa walikuwa kwenye international waters..not american waters,ndo maana huyo kiongoz akakwambia we are not at war with russia...
we unafkir wamarekani wana akili za kijinga na za kujionyesha na kutaka umaarufu wa kijinga kama warusi?...
sawa sawa na wewe mtu mzima unapita barabarani afu kajitu kanatoka uko kwake anaanza kukwambia usipite apo kwi hiyo barabara..afu mbele za watu...
Apo utakwa mjanja ukimwacha abwabwaje mwishoni atatuli mwenyewe coz alitaka tuu kutafta umaarufu cheap
 
Tabia hii ya Russia imekua common sasa, si mara ya kwanza ni very unprofessional, just imagine kwa ukaribu ule viongozi wa ile destroyer ya marekani wangekua na akili kama za warusi Waka shoot down ile fighter jet ingekuaje?

Maana ile meli ilikua armed na makombora na systems mbali mbali, ni busara tu ya captain wa meli kuwaaambia wenzie waachane na hiyo ndege maana haikua imebeba makombora kwenye mabawa yake hivyo waipotezee tu

Sasa ndege ingeangushwa ndipo ungesikia kelele za Russia, Ingawa urusi imekanusha Madai ya marekani lakini hii ni kawaida ya urusi kufanya hivyo Na kukanusha,
Hizo ni old tricks
afu kuna watu kina Elungata walikuaja huku wanajisifia..me nkawaangalia tuu
 
Mtu atoke kwake kilomita kibao anakuja kufanyia mazoezi ya kung fu mlangoni kwako,na unatakiwa ukae kimya unamwangalia tu?

America should leave them alone and go home
kama amefuata sheria ambazo wote mlikubaliana haina shida
 
unaambiwa walikuwa kwenye international waters..not american waters,ndo maana huyo kiongoz akakwambia we are not at war with russia...
we unafkir wamarekani wana akili za kijinga na za kujionyesha na kutaka umaarufu wa kijinga kama warusi?...
sawa sawa na wewe mtu mzima unapita barabarani afu kajitu kanatoka uko kwake anaanza kukwambia usipite apo kwi hiyo barabara..afu mbele za watu...
Apo utakwa mjanja ukimwacha abwabwaje mwishoni atatuli mwenyewe coz alitaka tuu kutafta umaarufu cheap
unajua russia wanajitegeza sana mkuu ndo mana walivyopitisha kimeo chao karibu na anga ya uturuki jamaa hawakujiluza mara mbili maana kila cku wanawaonya hawackii jamaa wakaitungua biashara ikaisha na wakaahidi iwapo mtu atapitisha ndege yake wataitungua tena..russia walisahau kama erdogn ni kichwa bange kama putin pia
 
Ni kwenye international waters na sio mlangoni kwa Russia, najua umekuja na ushabiki Bila Hoja
angalia umbali toka russia hadi ilipokuwepo meli ni kilomita 70 tu,kisha angalia umbali toka marekani hadi ilipokua meli ni zaidi ya km 8000.

Nani hapa unadhani anamfuata fuata mwenzake?.
Tufanye tu russia wachukua meli lakivita wakafanye mazoezi ya kijeshi pwani ya miami ,unadhani marekani atakaa kimya kweli?
Kwa mazingira Yale unayodai waliweka rehani maisha ya pilot wao, ndege ya Russia haikua na silaha, hivyo ilikwenda mikono mitupu, sasa unaendaje kujihami mikono mitupu tena dhidi ya meli giant iliyosheheni silaha mbali mbali?
Huo ni utoto msemo wa John kerry
afu kuna watu kina Elungata walikuaja huku wanajisifia..me nkawaangalia tuu
hizo system zilizokuwa katika meli ndo mrusi alikuwa anachukua picha na kufanya electronic warfare.
Ni ajabu sana mmarekani kwanini aliogopa kuzidungua,maana zimeondoka na itelligence data hapo,
tukio limefanywa kwa siku mbili na wamarekani hawajareact,mpaka hata shughuli zao walisitisha,
sijui wanaogopa nini,wanazidiwa hata wale jamaa wa uturuki
 
Kwa jinsi nilivyo observe the video through CNN ni kwamba pilot mrusi alikuwa na mawasiliano na destroyer hivyo ukiwaangalia wamarekani walijua kuwa haikuwa na madhara that's why wakatoka na kuisubilia ije waione kama si hivyo wamarekani wasingekuwa katk pose lile la kuitizama tuu ile ndege wangekuwa wako bize kuishusha down na hili lingefanyika miles away ukiiona mpaka imefka pale maanake they had identified each other tangia ilivyosomwa ktk radar ya destroyer
 
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unajua russia wanajitegeza sana mkuu ndo mana walivyopitisha kimeo chao karibu na anga ya uturuki jamaa hawakujiluza mara mbili maana kila cku wanawaonya hawackii jamaa wakaitungua biashara ikaisha na wakaahidi iwapo mtu atapitisha ndege yake wataitungua tena..russia walisahau kama erdogn ni kichwa bange kama putin pia
ndio maana nchi nyingine haziruhusiwi kuwa na silaha kali na uchumi, mkubwa fikiri kama rusia,china,nchi za kiarabu na korea kaskazini wangekua na uwezo wa uchumi,kiteknolojia na kivita kama USA na Israel ingekua je? nafiki wangetoka na majeshi yao na kwenda kuteka nchi fulani na kuchukua wanachotaka.
 
Kwa jinsi nilivyo observe the video through CNN ni kwamba pilot mrusi alikuwa na mawasiliano na destroyer hivyo ukiwaangalia wamarekani walijua kuwa haikuwa na madhara that's why wakatoka na kuisubilia ije waione kama si hivyo wamarekani wasingekuwa katk pose lile la kuitizama tuu ile ndege wangekuwa wako bize kuishusha down na hili lingefanyika miles away ukiiona mpaka imefka pale maanake they had identified each other tangia ilivyosomwa ktk radar ya destroyer
wamarekani waliwaradio na kuwaonya tena kwa kirusi na kurudia kwa kiingereza lakini zoezi liliendelea na pia kurudiwa kesho yake
 
wamarekani waliwaradio na kuwaonya tena kwa kirusi na kurudia kwa kiingereza lakini zoezi liliendelea na pia kurudiwa kesho yake
aya ila wasije wakafanya hivyo kwa warship ya uturuki bhana kama wanawapenda mapilot wao
 
unajua russia wanajitegeza sana mkuu ndo mana walivyopitisha kimeo chao karibu na anga ya uturuki jamaa hawakujiluza mara mbili maana kila cku wanawaonya hawackii jamaa wakaitungua biashara ikaisha na wakaahidi iwapo mtu atapitisha ndege yake wataitungua tena..russia walisahau kama erdogn ni kichwa bange kama putin pia
Afu me siku zote namwonaga putin ana mawazo na propaganda za kizamani sana....Rais ukiwa mstaarabu na unajiheshimu huwezi ruhusu marubani wako wafanye ujinga kama ule...Sasa kwa mfano apo si wamedhalilika na kwa kaulin za John Kerry?...
 
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