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You never know, 2015 might be a bitter year for you. Hakuna amani kama hakuna haki!
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You never know, 2015 might be a bitter year for you. Hakuna amani kama hakuna haki!mkuu Talkandtalk don't waste your precious time on this dimwit..anajua kila kitu na anaelewa vizuri tu...2015 will be a very good year for us
Hivi Kikwete akitoa the same statement does it mean the country is facing credible threat kama unavyosema?
FDRL is a threat regardless of the strength, ndio maana UN,na AU zimeipatia mpaka next month ku disarm au wapigwe unadhani international organizations zinaweza kuchukua uamuzi huu bila kuona umuhimu wa suala hili.
Ndio maana nchi za Ulaya kama German ukionyesha support to FDRL, be it in forums like this one or anywhere it is a punishable crime, ndio maana wenzako huko majuzi walikamatwa.
Eti ex FAR ya 57??na vibunduki vya 1994? kuna wakati unachanganya mambo mpaka nashindwa kukuelewa..
Kama ni hivyo basi na RDF ni ya 1990 na inatumia vibunduki vya 1990.
(Do you mean FDRL is not recruiting or getting arm supplies, is this new to you?wewe na wenzako wachache sindio huwa mnapost picha za FDRL wakiwa na vifaa vya kisasa kabisa.
So for you, Raisi wa nchi akae kimya wakati wananchi wake wanapata taarifa kama hizo.
FDRL ipo japo haina nguvu, lakini it is a threat manake inawatu wakuisaidia kueneza propaganda(waajiriwa)
Hawa ndio wanatumika kupost habari kila kukicha kwenye mitandao kama Jamiiforum etc.
Fortunately, waNyarwanda walio wengi hawafuatilii mitandao hii achilia mbali kuwa hata Kiswahili chenyewe wanaokifahamu ni wachache mno.
That means....you are sending the message to the wrong people
Onyesha kwanza uhusiano wa wakimbizi haramu na health care services accessibility maana hapo umeniacha hoi.
nilikuwa najibu comment yako hii.Uliposema hali ni mbaya mpaka . . . . Ulikuwa unajibu nini? ?!!!
Hebu tuambiane social services zikoje mkuu kabla ya kuzungumzia jeshi
Hivi Kikwete akitoa the same statement does it mean the country is facing credible threat kama unavyosema?
FDRL is a threat regardless of the strength, ndio maana UN,na AU zimeipatia mpaka next month ku disarm au wapigwe unadhani international organizations zinaweza kuchukua uamuzi huu bila kuona umuhimu wa suala hili.
Ndio maana nchi za Ulaya kama German ukionyesha support to FDRL, be it in forums like this one or anywhere it is a punishable crime, ndio maana wenzako huko majuzi walikamatwa.
Eti ex FAR ya 57??na vibunduki vya 1994? kuna wakati unachanganya mambo mpaka nashindwa kukuelewa..
Kama ni hivyo basi na RDF ni ya 1990 na inatumia vibunduki vya 1990.
(Do you mean FDRL is not recruiting or getting arm supplies, is this new to you?wewe na wenzako wachache sindio huwa mnapost picha za FDRL wakiwa na vifaa vya kisasa kabisa.
So for you, Raisi wa nchi akae kimya wakati wananchi wake wanapata taarifa kama hizo.
FDRL ipo japo haina nguvu, lakini it is a threat manake inawatu wakuisaidia kueneza propaganda(waajiriwa)
Hawa ndio wanatumika kupost habari kila kukicha kwenye mitandao kama Jamiiforum etc.
Fortunately, waNyarwanda walio wengi hawafuatilii mitandao hii achilia mbali kuwa hata Kiswahili chenyewe wanaokifahamu ni wachache mno.
That means....you are sending the message to the wrong people
Ndugu yangu Anjo, binafsi najua sie watz tunaathirika kwa namna moja ama nyingine kunapokuwa na instability Rwanda ndio maana sikubaliani na jinsi kagame anavyohandle mambo. Hayo maneno aliyoyasema ni maneno ya kawaida kwa kiongozi wa nchi kuonesha jinsi alivyojizatiti kulinda nchi yake. Tatizo la kagame huwa anashindwa kujua ni wakati gani atumie vitisho na wakati gani asitumie. Mfano mtu yuko kwenye "National Dialogue Council" lakini anatoa statement ambayo anaondoa maana halisi ya Dialogue. Hivyo vitisho amekuwa akivitoa kila wakati lakini sidhani kama vinasaidia sana maana bado wanyarwanda wanaompinga nje ya Rwanda wanazidi kupaaza sauti. Kama ana ajenda ya kuwaua aendelee nayo hana haja ya kuongeaongea mara nyingi. Hata huyo kikwete ambaye anatukera ktk utendaji wake lakini bado ana busara maana alisema ile statement mara moja na kilichofuata ni operation kimbunga hajarudiarudia kuongea. Sasa kagame anarudiarudia vitisho mpaka inajengeka picha kuwa hana mbinu zingine isipokuwa vitisho.BUT I don't understand the problem with Kagame's statement.
I remember our President giving similar statement in Kaboya, Kagera. Possibly, you may think Kagame copied and pasted Kikwete's words, if not journalist.
Sometimes we shouldn't give our platform to foreigners who want to instigate hatred from their ancestral Rwanda.
Anjo
nilikuwa najibu comment yako hii.
Huu ubwege peleka kwa hater wenzako.Ndugu yangu Anjo, binafsi najua sie watz tunaathirika kwa namna moja ama nyingine kunapokuwa na instability Rwanda ndio maana sikubaliani na jinsi kagame anavyohandle mambo. Hayo maneno aliyoyasema ni maneno ya kawaida kwa kiongozi wa nchi kuonesha jinsi alivyojizatiti kulinda nchi yake. Tatizo la kagame huwa anashindwa kujua ni wakati gani atumie vitisho na wakati gani asitumie. Mfano mtu yuko kwenye "National Dialogue Council" lakini anatoa statement ambayo anaondoa maana halisi ya Dialogue. Hivyo vitisho amekuwa akivitoa kila wakati lakini sidhani kama vinasaidia sana maana bado wanyarwanda wanaompinga nje ya Rwanda wanazidi kupaaza sauti. Kama ana ajenda ya kuwaua aendelee nayo hana haja ya kuongeaongea mara nyingi. Hata huyo kikwete ambaye anatukera ktk utendaji wake lakini bado ana busara maana alisema ile statement mara moja na kilichofuata ni operation kimbunga hajarudiarudia kuongea. Sasa kagame anarudiarudia vitisho mpaka inajengeka picha kuwa hana mbinu zingine isipokuwa vitisho.
Nilishakwambia sijibizani na mataahira, tafuta size yako mie ni oversize kwako.Huu ubwege peleka kwa hater wenzako.
haka kajamaa bado kapo?! hakajafa na ebola kweli,, ha! ha! haaaa! kagame mwembamba mpaka upepo unampeperusha,, mai weeee
Nashindwa kuelewa watz tunfanya nini kushughulika na nchi ya watu wakati yetu yanatushinda.
Kikwete was threatening kagame, that was a direct warning to kagame. lakini kagame is incapable of threatening another country labda kwa kujifurahisha tu, kagame threatens kayumba nyamwasa, FDLR and the many diasporas who are fighting him day and night using media, internet etc, they are opening up eyes of Rwandas and he's afraid in the future a revolution might happen in Rwanda. kuna wanyarwanda wengi nje ya rwanda wanaopambana naye kwenye mitandao kuwaconvince raia waishio Rwanda kuwa courageous na kumtoa madarakani au kuwapa sapoti wapinzani.BUT I don't understand the problem with Kagame's statement.
I remember our President giving similar statement in Kaboya, Kagera. Possibly, you may think Kagame copied and pasted Kikwetes words, if not journalist.
Sometimes we shouldn't give our platform to foreigners who want to instigate hatred from their ancestral Rwanda.
Anjo
Ndugu yangu Anjo, binafsi najua sie watz tunaathirika kwa namna moja ama nyingine kunapokuwa na instability Rwanda ndio maana sikubaliani na jinsi kagame anavyohandle mambo. Hayo maneno aliyoyasema ni maneno ya kawaida kwa kiongozi wa nchi kuonesha jinsi alivyojizatiti kulinda nchi yake. Tatizo la kagame huwa anashindwa kujua ni wakati gani atumie vitisho na wakati gani asitumie. Mfano mtu yuko kwenye "National Dialogue Council" lakini anatoa statement ambayo anaondoa maana halisi ya Dialogue. Hivyo vitisho amekuwa akivitoa kila wakati lakini sidhani kama vinasaidia sana maana bado wanyarwanda wanaompinga nje ya Rwanda wanazidi kupaaza sauti. Kama ana ajenda ya kuwaua aendelee nayo hana haja ya kuongeaongea mara nyingi. Hata huyo kikwete ambaye anatukera ktk utendaji wake lakini bado ana busara maana alisema ile statement mara moja na kilichofuata ni operation kimbunga hajarudiarudia kuongea. Sasa kagame anarudiarudia vitisho mpaka inajengeka picha kuwa hana mbinu zingine isipokuwa vitisho.
Duh, aka kajamaa katakufa kwa mawazo. Kila siku mikwala haiishi. Kanaangaika kweli.View attachment 212476 Anyone attempting to destabilise Rwanda whether from within or outside the county will face severe consequences, President Paul Kagame has warned. Rwandas President issued the stern warning Friday during the 12th National Dialogue Council held at the countrys Parliament, in the capital Kigali. We have secured the right to be and nobody is going to take away this right. No one has a right to do so.For those who will attempt, it will be very expensive for them, Kagame said. However, President Kagame did not single out anybody, but warned anyone within and outside Rwanda will face severe actions. Kagame said that Rwandans have chosen the right to be, and that no one in the World has the right to deny them that right. Recounting 20 years ago when he was still in liberation struggle which ended the Genocide against Tutsi, Kagame pinned United Nations for its efforts to sabotage Rwandans from liberating themselves. Kagame, who led the struggle, said he was then in Musha, Eastern part of Rwanda, when a UN agent threatened him through a telegram message, to lay down arms, saying the whole World was against RPF/As war against then government. Kagame, instead resisted the idea and successfully won the battle. Twenty years after the struggle, Kagame reminded Rwandans that they have achieved a lot, but still have a long way to go. The situation of our country gets better every day for all of us, but the tasks ahead get even harder for all of us. However, there is a balance because as it gets hard ahead of us, we have also built strength and capacity to deal with it, he added. The President called on Rwandans to always draw from lessons learnt in the past. What we have gone through should not be wasted. They have and should have shaped us to overcome any hardships in the future,He said. SOURCE: KTPress -
ahahah...wewe mkabila kweli..yani katika fikira zako kwa kua serikali inaongozwa na mtusi basi wahutu wote hawaikubali?we mbumbumbu kabisa..kwani hiyo serikali ya kikwete ukisema watu wapige kura bila wizi anaweza shinda??kwa taarifa yako wanyarwanda wengi wanamkubali pk na alicho sema nikweli kabisa na kama unabisha jaribu hakuna haja ya kuandikia mate..mkonkoto uko palepale..chokoza upigwe na hakuna huruma kwa yeyote yule anayetaka kuleta ujinga dhidi ya rwanda huyu ndiye kiongozi anayelinda wananchi wake.Siku ipo na itakuja ambayo majority wa Wanyarwanda watahitaji kuiweka serikali ya inayokubaliwa na walio wengi.
Rwanda kwa sasa ni moto uliofunikwa kwa majani, hakuna future kwa Rwanda bila maridhiano.
Majority wa Wahutu hawapo happy, na huwezi kuwa na nchi ya majority hawapo happy na utawala alafu utegemee utengamano wa kudumu.
Nilishakwambia sijibizani na mataahira, tafuta size yako mie ni oversize kwako.
Wewe ni mnywarwanda 100% mliokimbia 1994 baada ya kufanya genocide,wewe or one of your family mnatafutwa na international community au mko jela kwa mauaji mlliyofanya against Tutsi,and you have no any business of calling yourself Tanzanian because you are not..hakuna mtanzania hating Rwanda like you and to your credit seems you know a lot about Rwanda more than anybody though is all lies,hating and BS propaganda.1. utajisumbua bure kuniita mnyarwanda na kunizungumzisha kikwenu, mimi najua cha kuombea maji tu mkuu.
2. nimemaanisha majority ya watu hapa JF, tatizo lenu "wanyarwanda" mnaposikia majority mnadhani lazima ni ile "majority" mnayoikandamiza huko kwenu. Majority ni neno linaloweza kutumika katika mazingira mengine vile vile, so calm down kabla hujaanza kudondosha takwimu:becky:
3. tatizo ni kuwa kagame anaongea in codes, what he calls destabilisation ni upinzani wa kawaida tu wa kisiasa, there isn't any credible destabilization threat from anywhere ndani ya Rwanda wala nje ya Rwanda. Ndio maana kagame huyo huyo anajitapa kuwa aliwapiga FAR ndani ya siku 100 tu akawafukuzia DRC, lakini mpaka leo hii over 20 years, anazungumzia threats toka kwa hao hao ex-FAR wakiwa ukimbizini DRC! Kila siku anaingiza majeshi DRC akidai kuwatafuta. Hivi inawezekanaje ukawapiga jeshi zima in 1994 halafu ukashindwa kuwamaliza mpaka leo. Are they really a threat to Rwanda au anaikuza? kama average age ya askari ilikuwa miaka 37 kama ya kwake back then, ina maana leo Rwanda inatishiwa na ex-FAR ya wazee wa miaka 57? tena wenye vibunduki vile vile vya 1994 vs bunduki za kagame toka america?
kitu cha ajabu, wewe unayeongea ulikuwa mkimbizi ukakimbilia tz wakati wa kibano huko kwenu mfulukyunyozini kigali. umeishi tz upepata makazi hapa, chakula na choo ya kujisaidia, ukaenda shule na kujua hata kiswahili, umekua umerudi kwenu unawatukana watanzania. hii ndio inafanya dunia nzima ione watusi ni watu ambao sio wa kuwaamini wala kushirikiana nao. imagine, if today rwanda kikinuka tena, mtakuja tz wakati kwa sasa moja ya adui namba moja ya rwanda ni tanzania? na mmeguko wa uhusiano kati ya watz na wanyarwanda ambao kagame amesababisha hautakuja kuisha kamwe, na bahati mbaya its not more of tz risk, nyie ndio mtapoteza zaidi kuliko sisi.ahahah...wewe mkabila kweli..yani katika fikira zako kwa kua serikali inaongozwa na mtusi basi wahutu wote hawaikubali?we mbumbumbu kabisa..kwani hiyo serikali ya kikwete ukisema watu wapige kura bila wizi anaweza shinda??kwa taarifa yako wanyarwanda wengi wanamkubali pk na alicho sema nikweli kabisa na kama unabisha jaribu hakuna haja ya kuandikia mate..mkonkoto uko palepale..chokoza upigwe na hakuna huruma kwa yeyote yule anayetaka kuleta ujinga dhidi ya rwanda huyu ndiye kiongozi anayelinda wananchi wake.