Debate: James Baldwin debating William F. Buckley at Cambridge Union, 1965

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Habari zenu wana-JamiiForums,

Leo napenda kushare nanyi moja kati ya mjadala ambao umenivutia sana kati ya manguli wawili waliowahi kupata kuishi nchini Marekani, James Baldwin na William Buckley.

Kilichonivutia haswa katika mjadala huu ni umahiri wa James Baldwin katika kueleza mambo kwa uwazi na uwepesi wa lugha. Pia nimeupenda uvumilivu uliokuwepo katika mjadala huu hasa katika suala la kutofautiana kimawazo. Je dunia itaendelea kuwa na uvumilivu wa namna hii?

Nini maoni yako katika mjadala huu?

Asanteni.

 

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DEBATE SUMMARY

The motion of the debate is "Is the American Dream at the expense of American Negro?"

The debates opens up with two speakers from both sides of the debate presenting their contrasting views.

James Baldwin's argument

James Baldwin, the renowned novelist and civil rights activist, enters the debate as the 3rd speaker. His main argument is that the marginalization of Negroes is not different from those endured by other marginalized races, and that happened due to the sharp divergences of systems of reality that the oppressor races harbors. He calls on the audience and the world at large to embrace a shared system of reality: one that acknowledges the equality and dignity of all human beings. He tries to urge the audience to imagine the suffering of Black Americans from inside. He also underscores the issue of expense by rephrasing the question at hand in a more subjective tone. “I am stating this very seriously, and this is not an overstatement, I picked the cotton, and I carried it to market, and I built the railroads, under someone else’s whip, for nothing. For nothing.”

He also believe that relations among White and Black races can be improved only and only if the White race recognize and come to terms to the evils that they brought upon the Blacks and also on themselves. He says, "We are trying to forge a new identity for which we need each other."

William Buckley's argument

William Buckley( conservative author and commentator) is the last speaker in this debate. Mr. Buckley begins his argument by attacking the criticisms of America that is given by Mr. Baldwin. He agree that the Blacks have endured much humiliation and suffering throughout their 400 years, in spite of this, however, he does not see that as a justification for abandoning the ideals that make up the American Dream. He believes that amid all this trauma, the Blacks can still struggle to reassert their value and strive for recognition and prosperity. He says “The engines of concern are working in the United States,” he assured his audience. “The presence of Mr. Baldwin here tonight is in part a reflection of that concern.”

He condemns the radical and swift adjustment to the status quo, and instead he stress on the gradualness of this process of integration of races. He compares the struggle for the equality of races to the World War II in which the British had to wage war against German in order to save German from its dark side(Nazism/fascism). To that end he vowed to join forces to crush any attempt of assault on American Dream which he saw was undertaken by the Northern radicals. He says, “We will fight … on the beaches and on the hills, and on mountains and on landing grounds,”
 

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