Confusion: What is and Who is God

Confusion: What is and Who is God

Mohamed Abubakar

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QnA btn Sheep and Pastor.


Sheep : Who is God?
Pastor : Jesus
Sheep : Is Jesus the son of Mary?
Postor : Yes
Sheep : Who created Mary?
Paster : God.
Sheep : Who is God?
Postor: Jesus
Sheep : Jesus is the begotten son?
Pastor : Yes
Sheep : Who is his father?
Pastor : God.
Sheep : Who is God?
Pastor : Jesus.
Sheep : Jesus is a servant of God?
Pastor : Yes
Sheep : Who is God?
Pastor: Jesus
Sheep : Jesus died on the cross?
Pastor : Yes
Sheep : Who resurrected him?
Pastor : God.
Sheep : Is Jesus a messenger?
Pastor : Yes
Sheep : Who sent him?
Pastor : God.
Sheep : Who is God?
Pastor : Jesus.
Sheep: Did Jesus worship while on earth?
Pastor: Yes
Sheep: Whom did he worship?
Pastor: God.
Sheep : Who is God?
Pastor : Jesus.
Sheep : Did God have a beginning?
Pastor : No
Sheep: Then who was born on 25 DEC?
Pastor : Jesus.
Sheep : Is Jesus God?
Pastor : Yes
Sheep : Where's God?
Pastor : In Heaven.
Sheep : How many Gods are there in heaven?
Pastor : Only one God.
Sheep : Where's Jesus?
Pastor : He is seated on the right hand of his father.
Sheep : Then how many are they in heaven?
Pastor : Only one God.
Sheep : Then how many ?
Pastor : One
Sheep : Where's Jesus?
Pastor: Seated next to God.
Sheep : How are they seated on one chair?

Pastor: mmmh no I think Muslim are correct. Jesus was a messenger like other messengers like Adam etc
 
God is your wonderful human imagination. God is not a big man in sky, God is what you are before your mortal body.
 
QnA btn Sheep and Pastor.


Sheep : Who is God?
Pastor : Jesus
Sheep : Is Jesus the son of Mary?
Postor : Yes
Sheep : Who created Mary?
Paster : God.
Sheep : Who is God?
Postor: Jesus
Sheep : Jesus is the begotten son?
Pastor : Yes
Sheep : Who is his father?
Pastor : God.
Sheep : Who is God?
Pastor : Jesus.
Sheep : Jesus is a servant of God?
Pastor : Yes
Sheep : Who is God?
Pastor: Jesus
Sheep : Jesus died on the cross?
Pastor : Yes
Sheep : Who resurrected him?
Pastor : God.
Sheep : Is Jesus a messenger?
Pastor : Yes
Sheep : Who sent him?
Pastor : God.
Sheep : Who is God?
Pastor : Jesus.
Sheep: Did Jesus worship while on earth?
Pastor: Yes
Sheep: Whom did he worship?
Pastor: God.
Sheep : Who is God?
Pastor : Jesus.
Sheep : Did God have a beginning?
Pastor : No
Sheep: Then who was born on 25 DEC?
Pastor : Jesus.
Sheep : Is Jesus God?
Pastor : Yes
Sheep : Where's God?
Pastor : In Heaven.
Sheep : How many Gods are there in heaven?
Pastor : Only one God.
Sheep : Where's Jesus?
Pastor : He is seated on the right hand of his father.
Sheep : Then how many are they in heaven?
Pastor : Only one God.
Sheep : Then how many ?
Pastor : One
Sheep : Where's Jesus?
Pastor: Seated next to God.
Sheep : How are they seated on one chair?

Pastor: mmmh no I think Muslim are correct Jesus was a messenger like other messengers like Adam etc

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Unaweza kutofautisha kati ya propaganda na imani.

Ni kweli kuwa ktk jamii suala kuoa au kuolewa yategenea utamaduni na mitaala ya jamii hiyo. Kwa mf mtaala wa tz haumtengezi binti aonekane anaweza kuolewa hadi afike miaka 33 wastani.

Wakati mitaala mingine inamkuza mtoto wa miaka 15 aweza kuwa menaja mwenyw kuaminika. Mtaala wa tz kijana anaaminika akiwa na miaka walau 33.

Jiulize kwanini hakuna ushahidi kutoka kwa wapinzani wa mtume au jamii ya wakati huo wakilala kuwa mtume kaowa mtoto.

Ni propaganda
View: https://youtu.be/1GMwR1gmZ6M?si=z6pgI2hj27KJEyWD
 
Unaweza kutofautisha kati ya propaganda na imani.

Ni kweli kuwa ktk jamii suala kuoa au kuolewa yategenea utamaduni na mitaala ya jamii hiyo. Kwa mf mtaala wa tz haumtengezi binti aonekane anaweza kuolewa hadi afike miaka 33 wastani.

Wakati mitaala mingine inamkuza mtoto wa miaka 15 aweza kuwa menaja mwenyw kuaminika. Mtaala wa tz kijana anaaminika akiwa na miaka walau 33.

Jiulize kwanini hakuna ushahidi kutoka kwa wapinzani wa mtume au jamii ya wakati huo wakilala kuwa mtume kaowa mtoto.

Ni propaganda
View: https://youtu.be/1GMwR1gmZ6M?si=z6pgI2hj27KJEyWD

You said Propaganda,??

MUHAMMAD RAPED A NINE-YEAR OLD AISHA

[Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65] Narrated ‘Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that ‘Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).”

You as muslim apologists viewed this as not a rape because Muhammad married her. But the fact that she is still immature not knowing what she is into, this counts as a rape.

Imagine if you had a 9 year old daughter who engaged sexually with a 54 year old man, what would you do?

Muhammad had sex with a child. And not only Aisha
  • He raped Juwairiya bint al-Harith
  • He raped Safiyya of Khaybar
  • He raped Rayhana of Banu Qurayza
  • Muhammad Had Sex with the Dead Body of His Aunt. Propaganda again??
 
You said Propaganda,??

MUHAMMAD RAPED A NINE-YEAR OLD AISHA

[Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65] Narrated ‘Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that ‘Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).”

You as muslim apologists viewed this as not a rape because Muhammad married her. But the fact that she is still immature not knowing what she is into, this counts as a rape.

Imagine if you had a 9 year old daughter who engaged sexually with a 54 year old man, what would you do?

Muhammad had sex with a child. And not only Aisha
  • He raped Juwairiya bint al-Harith
  • He raped Safiyya of Khaybar
  • He raped Rayhana of Banu Qurayza
  • Muhammad Had Sex with the Dead Body of His Aunt. Propaganda again??

What is a bukhari...... a quran?

In islam their is no authentic and reference book than Quran.

The rest are like a bible. Writer has put their own words wakimlisha mtume.

So show me the evidence from historical books ikionysha tukio la jamii kumlalamika mtume kama ambavyo watz wakilala dhidi ya tendo la bajaji wa binti kahaba, muzak bar wa miaka 23

Wakati mabinti zao wa darasa la 7 wakiwa not vargin anymore.

Je kuolewa binti ni kosa.

Na kuzini si kosa.
 
What is a bukhari...... a quran?

In islam their is no authentic and reference book than Quran.

The rest are like a bible. Writer has put their own words wakimlisha mtume.

So show me the evidence from historical books ikionysha tukio la jamii kumlalamika mtume kama ambavyo watz wakilala dhidi ya tendo la bajaji wa binti kahaba, muzak bar wa miaka 23

Wakati mabinti zao wa darasa la 7 wakiwa not vargin anymore.

Je kuolewa binti ni kosa.

Na kuzini si kosa.
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
 
QnA btn Sheep and Pastor.


Sheep : Who is God?
Pastor : Jesus
Sheep : Is Jesus the son of Mary?
Postor : Yes
Sheep : Who created Mary?
Paster : God.
Sheep : Who is God?
Postor: Jesus
Sheep : Jesus is the begotten son?
Pastor : Yes
Sheep : Who is his father?
Pastor : God.
Sheep : Who is God?
Pastor : Jesus.
Sheep : Jesus is a servant of God?
Pastor : Yes
Sheep : Who is God?
Pastor: Jesus
Sheep : Jesus died on the cross?
Pastor : Yes
Sheep : Who resurrected him?
Pastor : God.
Sheep : Is Jesus a messenger?
Pastor : Yes
Sheep : Who sent him?
Pastor : God.
Sheep : Who is God?
Pastor : Jesus.
Sheep: Did Jesus worship while on earth?
Pastor: Yes
Sheep: Whom did he worship?
Pastor: God.
Sheep : Who is God?
Pastor : Jesus.
Sheep : Did God have a beginning?
Pastor : No
Sheep: Then who was born on 25 DEC?
Pastor : Jesus.
Sheep : Is Jesus God?
Pastor : Yes
Sheep : Where's God?
Pastor : In Heaven.
Sheep : How many Gods are there in heaven?
Pastor : Only one God.
Sheep : Where's Jesus?
Pastor : He is seated on the right hand of his father.
Sheep : Then how many are they in heaven?
Pastor : Only one God.
Sheep : Then how many ?
Pastor : One
Sheep : Where's Jesus?
Pastor: Seated next to God.
Sheep : How are they seated on one chair?

Pastor: mmmh no I think Muslim are correct. Jesus was a messenger like other messengers like Adam etc
Mm ni mkristo msabato wa kuzaliwa, ila simwamini yesu kama Mungu, naamini ni mtume kama mitume wengine tu. Nishaacha kwenda kanisani sababu naamini Mungu hana dini na ninaamini Mungu yupo na Mungu ni mmoja. Siamini kitabu cha bibilia.
Nafuu ya quran sababu quran kuna mistari ikisomwa watu wanapona magonjwa, kuna mistari ukiisoma mtu anaadhibiwa kwa madhbi aloyafanya
 
Mm ni mkristo msabato wa kuzaliwa, ila simwamini yesu kama Mungu, naamini ni mtume kama mitume wengine tu. Nishaacha kwenda kanisani sababu naamini Mungu hana dini na ninaamini Mungu yupo na Mungu ni mmoja. Siamini kitabu cha bibilia.
Nafuu ya quran sababu quran kuna mistari ikisomwa watu wanapona magonjwa, kuna mistari ukiisoma mtu anaadhibiwa kwa madhbi aloyafanya
Hongera. Hata hivyo suala Quran kupinyesha si kazi ya Quran.

Quran inasema Allah kaleta kile ugonjwa na dawa yake.

Hii inamaana tunapaswa kufanya tafiti kutafuta kila dawa ya ugonjwa. Ndio Quran hiyo hiyo inasema Allah anawapenda watu wafanya utafiti. The thinkers.

Uislam halisi uko kinyume na mafundisho ya bible.

Kwa mfano wakati ukristo unamtaka mtu aishi kwa sheria za duniani na kumuandaa kwenda mbinguni

Uislam unataka mtu aishi hapa duniani kwa sheria kutoka mbinguni.

Lkn kubwa zaidi asili ya Uislam ni sawa na matendo ya yesu. Yesu alikuja kuuondoa utawala na sheria za binadamu. Utawala wa dola ya Roma ya kale, lkn hakufanikiwa, sawa na Muhammad alikuja kuondoa utawala wa kishorikina wa ndugu zake waarabu. Yeye alifanikiwa.

Ni ajabu sasa kwa mafundisho mapya mtu wanashindwa ktkt ya jua akiamini anamtukuza mungu.

Ktk Uislamu kutukuza Mungu ni kufata masharti yake, na kutopiga goti kwa kuiabudu sheria zote za wanadamu ambazo ni kufuru kwa Mungu. Na kwamba ktk maisha yako, mama hauna nguvu yyt ya kuiondoa sheria hiyo unapaswa walau ufanye jambo dogo ktk kujenga msingi wa kuliondoa jambo hilo.

Kwa bahati mbaya mashekhe wengi wako contaminated kwa kuko itikadi zonazotokana na ilani nyingine kama kutumia Quran kwa mambo hayapo ktk sheria.

Quran halipaswi kusomwa kibubusa. Au kuitumia kama kinga na maandiko. Quran si kitabu cha kisayansi lkn kuna ayah zinataja mambo ya sayansi. Na ni jukumu.letu kufanya tafiti.

Ushekhe si ukuhani, kwamba mashekhe ni wapatanishi kati ya wanadamu na Mungu.


Kwa hiyo pamoja na kuupenda uislam unapaswa uupate uislam sahihi.

Soma uislam kati ya karne ya 7 hadi 12. Hapo kulikuwa na uislam sahihi, ulioendelea. Wakati ulaya kuitwa bara la giza, arabuni kulitambulowa kama Enzi za dhahabu, the golden age.
Chini ya kabraba kubwa ya kiislam mjini Baghdad. Ambapo mataifa mengine yalikwenda kutafuta maarifa kama Leo tunavyokenda ulaya na marekani.

Tuna safari ndefu kuelewa ukweli na kupita njia ya mungu. Lkn kwa ninyi ndugu zetu twaona mumepotea njia zaidi.

Chini ya mafundisho ya Prof Paul
 
Mm ni mkristo msabato wa kuzaliwa, ila simwamini yesu kama Mungu, naamini ni mtume kama mitume wengine tu. Nishaacha kwenda kanisani sababu naamini Mungu hana dini na ninaamini Mungu yupo na Mungu ni mmoja. Siamini kitabu cha bibilia.
Nafuu ya quran sababu quran kuna mistari ikisomwa watu wanapona magonjwa, kuna mistari ukiisoma mtu anaadhibiwa kwa madhbi aloyafanya
Msabato usiye na dini.A grown-up stupid!
 
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