Against the Myth of Satan

Satan is real
He was known as lucifer in pre mortal life while all we existed there as spirit,me and you were there and there were great grand council in heaven where our Heavenly Father(GOD)chaired it,.
Lucifer and some spirits (1/3) didn't agreed with decisions made up there and they rebelled against GOD's plan and hence they were as out from heaven as spirits they missed the chance of getting the phyisical body,and Hence he's still a spirit till today
 
Habari wahusika wa hii mada.

Labda naomba ningepata jibu la hili swali.


Ni dhambi gani mwanadamu anayoweza kuitenda na kusema ni shetani ndiye aliyesababisha au kumshawishi?

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I hope you attended the meeting
 

Tafadhali naombaa kujua hii story imeandikwa na nani katika biblia(ipo kitabu gani), ili nikaisome kwa uzuri.
 
Habari wahusika wa hii mada.

Labda naomba ningepata jibu la hili swali.


Ni dhambi gani mwanadamu anayoweza kuitenda na kusema ni shetani ndiye aliyesababisha au kumshawishi?

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Hakuna hata kadiri ya uwezo wangu
 
Hakuna hata kadiri ya uwezo wangu

Nashukuru kwa Jibu lako Mr. Ni kutokana na kufuatilia Imani nyingine zinazoamini kuwa Shetani/fulani ndiye chanzo cha makosa yao, na makosa ya ulimwengu mzima. Wanabase na kutumia facts zinazoonyesha kuwa cause ya hayo yote ni nje yao wakati ipo ndani yao. Nadhani sisi wanadamu ndio wahusika wakuu wa matendo yetu. Matendo yetu hupelekea matokea ambayo yatatuface sisi wenyewe na sio mwingine.

Kila evil inatokana na Hamu/Tamaa, Ujinga (kutoelewa uhalisia kwa undani), Ubinafsi, na mazoea. Kila evil inaweza kuondoka kwa mwanadamu kama akiweza kujiongoza na kujitawala vyema kutumia akili yake, milango yake ya ufahamu, busara, hekima, na kuondoa kila kimoja kinachomrudisha nyuma (weakness).

Mwanadamu ndiye Adam/Hawa; Tamaa (Hasa za ubinafsi/kutafuta furaha nje yake), Ujinga (kutoelewa uhalisia wa Maisha), Mazoea (Mizizi inayojijenga kutokana na kuzoea kutenda mambo fulani/makosa) hivyo ni Shetani wake, ndivyo vinavyomzuia kutofahamu utajiri wake, Kujitambua na kujiongoza ndio mwokozi wake, kusafisha matendo yake, akili yake na ufahamu wake humrudisha katika uasili wake na Devine Power.

Shetani ni fumbo na sio kiumbe au fulani ambaye anajitegemea. Kama ilivyo mwanga na giza, ujazo na uhaba, siku na mchana lazima kimoja kuwepo kuashiria uwepo wa kingine na kama kisingekuwepo kingine kingeonekana cha kawaida, Kama vile kifo na kuzaliwa. Vyote hutufundisha umuhimu wa maisha ni nini. Shetani is nothing, it represent igrorance, greed, attachments na desires. Zote hizi zinaondolewa kwa kujitawala na kujitambua.
 

Umeshasema kila kitu labda km mtu hataki kukuelewa kwakweli:thumbup:
 

u must be good upstairs, are u psakayastri?
 
Laiti kama wafia dini wangekua wanahoji kwa mantiki masuala yamhusuyo huyu Mungu ninaamini wangebaki wanamlaumu Mungu wao
The problem with most agnostic people I know they tend to think they are smarter than religious people. They assume people believe because they are stupid. They forget that some people have come to believe after being atheists then agnostics. You can look up agnostics who became believers and see for yourself.

Just because you have trouble understanding things about God which makes you an agnostic does not automatically make you smarter, if anything you might be just confused!
 
Habari wahusika wa hii mada.

Labda naomba ningepata jibu la hili swali.


Ni dhambi gani mwanadamu anayoweza kuitenda na kusema ni shetani ndiye aliyesababisha au kumshawishi?

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Huwezi kujibu hili swali bila kwanza kuweka msingi wa hoja yako. Unaamini katika Mungu na shetani na kama ndiyo uelewa wako kuhusu ufanyaji kazi wa shetani ni upi na Mungu ni upi? Kuuliza swali hewani kama hilo ni sawa na kuuliza ni JF inaweza kusababisha kupungua kwa ufanisi wa kazi bila kwanza kukubaliana JF ni nini na inafanyaje kazi. Kwa maneno mengine kama hatukubaliani kuhusu JF na ufanyaji wake wa kazi ni wazi uwezekano wa kujibu hilo swali kwa ufasaha haupo
 

I thought we are discussing about God? God is not religion, and "organised" religion is mostly Satanic so to speak.
The Bible and Koran speak of Godly power ( The Good deeds) and Satanic power (The evil deeds) . So Frankly speaking, most Organised religion - Christianity, Islamic, Hinduism, to mention but a few are mostly satanic. The Godly religion is all kind and lovely. It is what Moses, Jesus and Mohammad preached. They never preached as Christians or Moslems. They preached about the Heaven power. They were not paid for this . They were doing it out of Heavenly power. We all know that they were hated by the "Religious" people. Jesus was killed by the Church and the Politicians.
Now we all know that there is a strong bond between the organised religion and the political system.Religion is politics. It is deception. It is criminal. Organised religion organizes the world power. The bible says " they teach what is not in the books, and they will not enter the heaven, and they distract the good people into their own downfall" . In short, the whole bible and the whole Koran is against organised Religion. If you are lucky enough to know the deception of the Church and the Mosque, you will slowly start receiving God's wisdom, and you will never doubt the existence of The all Powerful and Loving God! God is real, and Satan is real!
 

Well said
 
Its always a fairy tale untill you put some "faith" into it and people would believe once upon a time a snake used to talk

... and had limbs before being cursed...
 
Kwa wale wanaopenda kufahamu meaning zaidi juu ya Shetani na Evil watazame Documentary Hii.

 
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Nashukuru kwa maelezo yako, Swali langu nimeenda moja kwa moja kwenye point kuu. Kuhusu kufahamu Mungu ni yupi na Shetani ni yupi nafahamu Myths zote hizo kwani nimezisoma na kuzitafakari kutoka katika imani tofauti na vitabu vyao vya kiimani.

Lakini ninapouliza hivyo ninamaanisha nimeweka uhuru, vyovyote unavyomuita au kumchukulia Shetani, mtu awe huru kuelezea jinsi anavyoweza kuonekana kama cause of evil kwa ushahidi.
 

Kahhhhhhh !!
 
Oohhhh yeah l said it !!
 

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