Ziara ya Ernesto Che Guevara Tanzania

Chukueni darsa hili kutoka kwa Ritz,

 


MgungaMiba,

Lazim nikubali yakuwa menipeleka mbali mno. Chambilecho cha Shariif Ritz,"nakusoma" kwa miwani ya 3D!ahahaa!!

Ni aghalab mno siku hizi kupata MwanaMzizima/Mwanakindakindaki mwenye kuyajua au kuyakumbuka haya...Wallahi,wakti umekwenda zake!

Ndo maana mie nikaitwa Gombesugu;wala si Beni Bati,Mkukuninga,Mkwajungoma,Mganda,Chakacha wala Kilua. Huo Mchiriku ni wa wahuni wamekuja/wameletwa tu,kuja kutuvurugia tamaduni na dasturi zetu.

Kitambo,ilikua zamani pale Viwanja vya Kidongo Chekundu,siku za Sikukuu....ndo ilikua ikipigwa "Nachi" na huku Marehemu Farouk akikatika!ahahaaa!! Nafikri ndo hawa wahuni/wahamiaji wakaiga na kutuletea hii "Mchiriku"!?

Umeitaja Cameo,nami menikumbusha pale Odeon...enzi ile michezo ile ya Sanam Teri Kassam na Nagin!ahahaa!

Nimeipenda mno hiyo khabar/story yako ya hapo Zahir Hotel/Restaurant na Marehemu Che masikini!...ni watu/Viongozi wachache mno walobaki duniani leo hii, wenye mapenzi ya dhati na machungu ya kweli kwa Watu Weusi/Afrika kama alivyokua Che Guevara!

Nimefurahika mno kukusikia ndugu yangu,najua una mengi tajifunza toka kwako.

Cc;Ritz
 
Ritz said:
Chukueni darsa hili kutoka kwa Ritz,
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Shariff Ritz,

Nakusoma kwa utuvu mwingi Shariff...lakini dasturi yako si nzuri, Ilm unatoa kiduchu tu,nyingine unaificha kibindoni!ahahaa!!

Ahsanta.
 
Hoja ni kua factual reference ya post yako ina mashakamashaka, hii ndio hoja yangu.
 
Nampenda sana Che hasa katika maisha yake. Hakuishj kwa ajili yake bali kutetea roho wa wanyonge. Sasa hivi uliza hata vijana wanaojua wanamapinduzi hamna...ni masharobaro tu. Kazi kumshadidikia kiongozi wa nchi ya kibepari.

Ukiangalia habari za marekani kuhusu Obama Tanzania wanasema Tanzania 'crazy'.....search gogle news. Wameshaona tulivyomshobokea.
 
mmenitoa machozi ndugu zangu,nimefika revolution plaza havana na nimeona wht he did. he said, hasta la victoria siempre.
 
Mjadala fikirishi. Soma hapa;

"At dawn on the morning of April 24, 1965, Che and thirteen Cubans set foot on the Congolese shore of Lake Tanganyika. An expanse of thirty miles of water separated them from the safety of Tanzania and the vast Savanna that extended to the Indian Ocean. They had travelled for two days and nights by car from Dar es Salaam and then by boat to the lakeside village of Kibamba."

"....Godefroi Chamaleso, the political commissar from Dar es Salaam, had come to help smooth the way for the Cubans, so far , he was the only official link to the revolutionaries Che intended to whip into shape. Kabila had not appeared. He stayed on in Cairo, sending word that he would return in fortnight, and in his absence Che had been forced to remain incognito. "To be honest," he acknowledged later, "I wasn't too upset, because I was very interested in the war in Congo and I was afraid that my appearances would provoke overly sharp reactions, and that some of the Congolese, or even the friendly (Tanzanian) government, would ask me to abstain from joining in the fray."

"So far, so good. But already, in Kigoma, the Tanzanian port on the eastern shore of the lake, Che had seen the first evidence that the me he was joining were undiscplined and badly led. A Tanzanian official had complained to him about the Congolese rebels, who regularly crossed the lake to hang out and disport themselves in bars and whorehouses."

Hii ni sehemu ya chapter iitwayo 'The story of a failure', kwenye kitabu cha Jon Lee Anderson, "Che Guevara; A Revolutionary Life", Revised and updated.

Ni kitabu kizuri kinachomzungumzia mwanamapinduzi huyonkwa undani, tangu utoto, mapambano yake kila mahali duniani, hadi alivyouwawa na maiti yake kupotezwa hadi kupatikana. Pia namna walivyokuwa wakitofautiana na kuwa katika bad terms na comrade wake, Fidel Castro...

Cheers

Makene
 
gombesugu said:
Alifika Zanzibar,lakini kwa siri mno...watu walompokea/ma-Comrades wenzie na kumfikisha huko wako hai mpaka kesho hapo hapo D'Salaam...na picha za ukumbusho zipo!

Kama unabisha hili kamuulize Salim Ahmed atakufahamisha uzuri mno!

Cc;Ritz
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Wewe ngoma ya kizaramo, ili kukata mzizi wa fitina inaelekea umeziona hizo picha kwa Salim kwanini usiziombe uzibandike humu kama usemavyo kuwa zipo!!! Wakweree na wazaramo hawana tofauti hivyo sikuonei ajabu kwa uongo wako!!!
 
Bulesi said:
Wewe ngoma ya kizaramo, ili kukata mzizi wa fitina inaelekea umeziona hizo picha kwa Salim kwanini usiziombe uzibandike humu kama usemavyo kuwa zipo!!! Wakweree na wazaramo hawana tofauti hivyo sikuonei ajabu kwa uongo wako!!!
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Mimi nalifikri najadiliana na mtu msomi na mstaarabu...kumbe muhuni fulani tu; mwenye prejudice, stereotypes,kebehi,kashfa, na chuki zisizo mipaka kwa makabila fulani hapo nchini!?

Hayo Makabila uliyotaja wala si yangu na wala sina uhusiano nayo asilan.

Kwaheri,nakusihi watafute wenzio wa aina yako mpasuane vichwa humu Jf!....yaani umo humu Jf tangia 2008,khalaf ndo unaandika utumbo huo,kweli Watanzania mna kazi!?

Wasalimie!!
 

Yakhe hizo picha haziko na kwavile huwezi kuzileta ndio maana umetafuta sababu ya kukimbia toka janvini!! Nenda mwana kwenda!!!
 
Alipitia tanganyika wakati anaenda congo hakufuraishwa na attitude ya kabila snr kwani alimuona he is not serious na hakua inspiring leader ndo akaishia lakin hasa alikuja kwa ajili ya kusaidia mapambano kule congo!!!
 
Bulesi said:
Wewe ngoma ya kizaramo, ili kukata mzizi wa fitina inaelekea umeziona hizo picha kwa Salim kwanini usiziombe uzibandike humu kama usemavyo kuwa zipo!!! Wakweree na wazaramo hawana tofauti hivyo sikuonei ajabu kwa uongo wako!!!
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Mbona suala la safari ya Guevara kwenda Zanzibar limeelezwa vyema kwenye vitabu. Hii ni nukuu ya Don Peterson kwenye kitabu chake Zanzibar Revolution: An American Cold War Tale'' I sat behind karume and his notable guest, the famous cuban revolutionary, Che Guevara at the football stadium during a bull fight part of Zanzibar's and Pemba's portuguese heritage...''(uk 253)
 
BRUCE LEE said:
mmenitoa machozi ndugu zangu,nimefika revolution plaza havana na nimeona wht he did. he said, hasta la victoria siempre.
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Mkuu hiyo"Hasta la victoria siempre" akimaanisha?

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Alifika Tanzania na si mara moja bali mara tatu ila mara moja tu ndio ilikuwa official mara mbilinyingine ilikuwa nikwasiri
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[TD]The Argentinean revolutionary and hero of the Cuban revolution, Ernesto “Che” Guevara, spent over four months in Tanzania between 1965 and 1966. He entered Tanzanian soil a total of three times, once publicly and twice in secret between February and November of 1965. Che was attracted to Tanzania because it was the headquarters of most liberation movements from southern Africa; it was one of the centers of revolutionary thought in the African continent at the time. After almost three months of travelling to 6 different African countries pitching a case for a revolution, it was in Tanzania that Che would find a government ready to support his plan and a place to launch his next revolution. Tanzania would eventually become the starting point for a Cuban operation that would see Che together with more than 130 Cubans cross Lake Tanganyika and spend the next seven months fighting in the Congo. Che landed in Dar es Salaam on Thursday, February 11, 1965 from China. He had one mission: to rally support from the liberation movements to create a united army to fight against imperialist an neocolonial forces in the Congo. Che went to Tanzania with a mission. He wanted a revolution. If there was any place in Africa with a large number of revolutionaries from different countries close to the battlefields in 1965, it was Tanzania. A war was escalating in the neighboring Mozambique against the Portuguese. Revolutionaries from South Africa, Zimbabwe, and Namibia, were flocking into the country. Tanzania was the one place in Africa that Che had hopes for his mission to recruit fighters and establish a rear base for a revolutionary war.Che spent the first day in Dar es Salaam and then flew to Zanzibar to attend the celebrations of the anniversary of the Zanzibar revolution on the weekend of February 13, 1965. The anniversary was postponed from January 12 to February 12, 1965 because of Ramadan. Attending the anniversary celebrations of the Zanzibar revolution was a symbolic start for Che’s tour of Tanzania. Cuba had provided military training from numerous Zanzibar comrades who came to play a big role in the eventual victory of that revolution.The security situation in Tanzania was tense in the end of 1964 and the beginning of 1965. A diplomatic crisis between Tanzania and the US erupted in November of 1964 with discovery of documents purporting a plan by the US to help Portugal overthrow the Tanzanian government. The crisis escalated when on January 11th, 1965, Tanzanian intelligence services snooping on telephone conversation between two American diplomats, Bob Gordon and Frank Carlucci, heard them speaking in codes about what appeared to be a plot against the Zanzibar government. The two US diplomats were expelled from Tanzania in January of 1965. It was a crisis that, according to one American diplomat, Don Patterson, would bring Nyerere to tears during his discussion with William Leonhart, the US Ambassador to Tanzania at the time. Che was in Tanzania during this difficult period for the Tanzanian government officials. The New York Times carried an article on the US and Tanzania diplomatic crisis on February 15, 1965; it noted that the Tanzanian government was hosting Maj. Ernesto Che Guevara amidst the crisis. Back in Zanzibar, Ali Sultan Issa, the newly appointed Minister of Education, was given the task of hosting Che. Ali was a socialist who had studied in Britain, spent time in Cuba and China. In fact, Ali had first met Che in Cuba in 1962 and again later at a conference in Geneva in 1964. Che stayed at a small house in Buba, Zanzibar. Ali made sure that preparations were made for Che to stay in the house. Che and Ali would spend two hours discussing Che’s Tricontinental vision. Che wanted to build revolutionary armies from three different continents-Africa, South America, and Asia- to struggle against imperialism. The two also discussed the awakening of African revolutionary thought of the rebels in Congo, freedom fighters in Mozambique and southern African. Che spent time with Salim Ahmed Salim and his family in Zanzibar. Salim was Tanzania’s Ambassador to Egypt from 1964 to 1965. Salim invited Che to his house for a meal. Salim’s wife, Amne Ahmed, prepared a meal for the renowned revolutionary. Che and Salim spent several hours discussing the Cuban revolution and the strength of the liberation movements in Africa. Che returned to Dar es Salaam after spending several days in Zanzibar. Arrangements were made for a meeting for Che and at least 50 representatives of various liberation groups from 10 countries. The black Cuban Ambassador to Tanzania Pablo Rivalta and Juan Carretero, Head of Latin America Section of the Intelligence Department for Cuba, took part in the talks. The meeting was held at the Cuban Embassy in Upanga, Dar es Salaam. It was at this meeting that Che unveiled his scheme to create an army made up of soldiers from different African countries to be trained in the Congo. Che called his initiative the “common front.” This was a difficult proposal for the various liberation groups to accept. The freedom fighters wanted to focus on the campaigns in their own countries. Che faced resistance and realized very quickly that it would be better to meet with individual groups one at a time. Separate meetings were arranged later for some of the groups. FRELIMO leaders from Mozambique met with Che separately. The list of attendees included, Marcelino dos Santos, Samora Machel, and Eduardo Mondlane. Once again, Che took the time to make a case to FRELIMO to send soldiers to train and fight in the Congo. FRELIMO leaders were not impressed with the plan. What followed was a long debate between Che and FRELIMO leaders. According to Marcelinos dos Santos, they informed Che about some of the details of the war in Mozambique and Che questioned the veracity of some of the claims. The debate became heated and acrimonious at one point. Mondlane, the President of FRELIMO, was offended. The meeting was adjourned, but not before numerous pictures were taken.

The most productive meeting for Che in Dar es Salaam was with the Congo rebels based in Tanzania, Laurent Kabila and Godefrei Tchamlesso, and later Gaston Soumialot. Che had at least three meetings with the Congo rebels in Dar es Salaam in February of 1965. He was particularly impressed with Kabila. Che wrote in his diary that Kabila “made an excellent impression on me.” He presented a clear plan of action and identified US imperialism as the main enemy; this is something that made an impression on Che. The Congo rebels eventually accepted Che’s proposal. The initial plan was to send 30 Cubans to train the rebels. Che never told the Congolese rebel leaders nor the Tanzanian officials that he was planning to lead the group of Cubans himself.The Cuban plan for the Congo would not have had a chance of succeeding without the approval and support of the Tanzanian government. Rivalta set up a meeting between Che and President Nyerere. There was a reception at the State House and Che got an opportunity to speak to Nyerere, the Foreign Minister Oscar Kambona, Joseph Lusinde, Minister of Interior, Abdulrahman Babu, and the Vice President, Rashidi Kawawa. Rivalta was present at the meeting.The meeting was productive. Che made a case to the Tanzanian officials about Cuban assistance to the Congolese Liberation Movement. Cuba would support the Congo rebels by providing supplies and training. Tanzanian government promised the Cubans that instructors and supplies would be given a safe passage to the Congo.Che stayed in Tanzania from February 11 to 18, 1965. He gave a press conference in Dar es Salaam on February 18th before he left the country. Che told reporters that his African tour had “reaffirmed his conviction of the possibility of a ‘common front’ against imperialism and colonialism.” He told reporters that the “common front” would include Latin-American countries, Socialist African and Asian states. The Americans were paying close attention to his visit to Dar es Salaam. The New York Times carried article of Che’s press conference in Tanzania on February 19th. Che left Tanzania for Egypt and then Algeria. He did not return to Cuba until March 14, 1965. The trip to Tanzania had been a resounding success. He convinced the Congo rebels to accept assistance from Cuba; Che and Rivalta had secured the approval of the Tanzanian government to allow them to transit Cuban trainers and supplies to Congo. Che’s dream of an all out war against imperialism launched from the shores of Lake Tanganyika was getting closer to becoming a reality.Preparations were made for Cuban soldiers to go to fight in the Congo in Cuba. The Cuban soldiers had to travel to Tanzania first and then sneak into the Congo secretly. Che and his men arrived in Dar es Salaam on April 19, 1965 according to most accounts.Ambassador Rivalta received a cable from Cuba to go pick up three Cubans at the Dar es Salaam airport prior to their arrival. He was not told who the three men were; he did know that they were part of the group going to fight in the Congo.Che passed through the Tanzania immigration using the assumed name Ramon Benetiz. The name did not raise any suspicion about the true identity of the man carrying the diplomatic passport. He was clean-shaven, wore glasses, and had prosthetic devices to alter his look. Rivalta who had known Che well did not recognize him. Che eventually leaned over and told his old friend “Stop being a fool, and take it easy.” Rivalta then recognized Che, an old comrade from the Cuban war of revolution.[/TD]
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MchunguZI said:
Sikuwahi kusikia kwamba alifika Tz ingawa alifika Kongo (Zaire) na kusaidia harakati za kivita.
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Che Guevara,pamoja na kwamba alishika madaraka katika serikali ya Cuba kwa wakati fulani ila hakuwa m-cuba,alikuwa muagentina....
 
gombesugu said:
Alifika Zanzibar,lakini kwa siri mno...watu walompokea/ma-Comrades wenzie na kumfikisha huko wako hai mpaka kesho hapo hapo D'Salaam...na picha za ukumbusho zipo!

Kama unabisha hili kamuulize Salim Ahmed atakufahamisha uzuri mno!

Cc;Ritz
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Gombesugu achana na huyo anayejiita Bulesi haijui historia na hataki kuelimishwa
 
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