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White House denies Obama is snubbing Binyamin Netanyahu during US visit

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  1. BAK

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    White House denies Obama is snubbing Binyamin Netanyahu during US visit

    Haaretz claims president turned down meeting offer from prime minister as Israel increases rhetoric over Iran nuclear facilities

    Barack Obama meets with Binyamin Netanyahu at the UN last year. This year, they will not be in New York at the same time. Photograph: Kevin Lamarque/Reuters

    The public feuding between Israel and Washington ratcheted up sharply on Tuesday amid claims that Barack Obama has declined to meet Binyamin Netanyahu during the Israeli prime minister's visit to the US later this month.

    Haaretz reported an Israeli official as saying that Netanyahu asked for a meeting with the president after attending the opening of the UN general assembly in New York in late September. Netanyahu offered to travel to Washington but the White House allegedly said Obama was too busy.
    The news came as Netanyahu warned the White House that it has no moral right to block an Israeli attack on Iran's nuclear facilities if Washington is not prepared to set firm "red lines" for Tehran, including a deadline for it to meet western demands for a halt to uranium enrichment.

    The US national security council spokesman, Tommy Vietor, denied Obama was snubbing Netanyahu. He said there would be no talks because the pair would not be in New York on the same day. But Vietor did not address the report that Netanyahu had offered to meet in Washington.
    It will be the first time Netanyahu travels to the US as prime minister without seeing Obama. Some of the president's supporters are angered by what they see as the Israeli leader's interference in the US presidential election in favour of the Republican candidate, Mitt Romney.
    Tensions were not eased on Tuesday by Netanyahu's stinging attack on the US administration's rejection of his demand for Washington to say specifically at what point it would attack Iran.
    "The world tells Israel: Wait. There's still time. And I say: Wait for what? Wait until when?" he said. "Those in the international community who refuse to put red lines before Iran don't have a moral right to place a red light before Israel."

    He disparaged economic sanctions against Iran as ineffective, saying that Iran is getting closer every day to building a nuclear weapon.
    Netanyahu's comments came in response to a statement by Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, who repeated Washington's position that sanctions and diplomacy need to be given time to shift Iran.
    "We're not setting deadlines," Clinton told Bloomberg Radio. "We're convinced that we have more time to focus on these sanctions, to do everything we can to bring Iran to a good-faith negotiation."

    Israel only recently pulled back from months of threatening rhetoric over an attack on Iran, under pressure from the US and Europe – including, it emerged on Tuesday, a highly unusual visit two weeks ago of the head of the British intelligence service MI6, Sir John Sawers, as a special envoy from the prime minister, David Cameron.

    In meetings with Netanyahu and his defence minister, Ehud Barak, Sawers reinforced the message from Washington that an attack on Iran in the near future would only complicate attempts to dissuade the country from developing a nuclear weapon.

    An Israeli official source told Haaretz that British fear of an imminent Israeli strike was heightened by Netanyahu's failure in a phone call with Cameron "to provide clear and precise answers" to questions about Israeli intentions.

    As it toned down the rhetoric, the Israeli leadership sought guarantees of US action if Iran failed to meet western demands - the so-called "red lines". But Washington has refused to agree.

    The US defence secretary, Leon Panetta, further angered the Israelis by saying there is still more than a year to prevent Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. He also contradicted Israeli claims that Iran had already decided to build an atomic bomb.
    Israel's defence minister, Ehud Barak, sought to cool tensions on Tuesday, at least in public, by saying that differences should be sorted out "behind closed doors".

    "We must not forget that the US is Israel's most important source of support in terms of security," he said.
    Last week, the chairman of the House of Representatives intelligence committee, Mike Rogers, described attending a "very tense" and argumentative meeting between Netanyahu and the US ambassador to Israel, Dan Shapiro, in late August at which the pair had "elevated" exchanges.
    Rogers described Netanyahu as at his "wit's end" over Obama's refusal to set red lines for Iran.

    "It was very, very clear that the Israelis had lost their patience with the administration," Rogers told a Detroit radio station. "We've had sharp exchanges with other heads of state and other things, in intelligence services and other things, but nothing at that level that I've seen in all my time where people were clearly that agitated, clearly that worked up about a particular issue, where there was a very sharp exchange."

    Rogers said Israel will probably bomb Iran if the White House does not lay down firm limits for Iran.

    Shapiro rejected the characterisation of the meeting.
    A former senior Israeli foreign ministry official and diplomat who served in the US, Alon Liel, said Netanyahu engineered the confrontation in front of Rogers.

    "It appears to be an attempt to help the Republicans in the upcoming election. The entire show, under the patronage of Rogers, is meant to prove to the American public, and in particular to the Jewish community, that the rift between Israel and the United States is more significant and deeper than we thought," he said.
  2. Yegomasika

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    Huyu Bibi bwana anacheza na Jaluo, si aende peke yake tu Iran kama anaweza?.
  3. BAK

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    ....Huyu anamfanyia kampeni Romney za kinyemela ili wayahudi wengi wampigie kura. Yeye na 'Bama ngoma haiwivi na hata na Clinton pia walikuwa hawawivi chungu kimoja sasa anafanya kila awezalo kumharibia. Anajua hana ubavu wa kucheza bila kukingiwa kifua na Taifa kubwa. Cameron naye kamtolea nje sasa anaanza kubwabwaja kama debe bovu.

  4. Father of All

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    Where does Israel get the gut to shout at the nation that put it in the map of the world? Netanyahu needs to be told to his face that Washington can nary be bulldozed by such hank it feeds and defends. Shame on Netanyahu and Republicans.
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    Toka lini mabibi wakaenda vitani bila mabwana zao :biggrin1:
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    you know why? because democrats believe in negotiations and not war. Republicans like war. Bush snr na bush jnr wote washaipeleka america vitani, so huyu muisrael anataka romney ashinde akijua itakua rahisi ku attack iran coz republicans wanapenda sana vita na isitoshe israel haiwezi kwenda yenyewe vitani bila msaada wa the west. Nchi yenyewe inafadhiliwa na the west kila kitu wanapewa na the west kuanzia silaha, pesa na misaada mingine alafu ina kiburi utadhani nini sijui!! kama wana ubavu waende wenyewe vitani. The reason Israel exists today is because of america badala ya kuwashukuru ndio wanajidai wajanja
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    Hamjui mnachokisema, subirini mtakiona maana ni sharti mtakiona, haitawachukua mda mrefu.
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    Wewe ni wale wanaoamini Israel ni taifa la mungu? Kama ni hivyo endelea na umbumbumbu wako.
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    ...Naona weye ndiye mjuaji wa kila kitu...Tusubiri kukiona hicho unachokizungumzia.

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    The Issue is that US democrats find Israel LOATHSOME. I remember when Bill Clinton would Stand side by side with Yasser Arafat and PLO, and shamelessly together chant slogans like WE HAVE A DREAM on posters that were circulating from palestine down to Tel a viv. I still dont understand why democrats can wine and dine on a table with terrorists.
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  12. Malcom Lumumba

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    man i don't want to die by the nukes,i haven't seen the world yet.The U.S,Israel and NATO should reconsider the whole thing of attacking Iran since we all know Irans won't hasitate on deploying NUCLEAR WARHEADS in the missiles and when that happens we all know what will happen:WW3,...millions will die,simply every one under the sun will be touched,particulary people like us who are only good on talking politics in the Internet and haven't seen the real war yet.