TRC Imefisadiwa Pia

zomba · Feb 28, 2008

moelex23 said:
Ndugu yangu soma btn the lines, wewe unazungumzia press briefings unazopata, watu wanachambua inside stuff.

so let me ask u a question::::

mkataba unasema kila kitu kitanunuliwa/leased only from Rites India @ a very high price????????

Rites India wametoa kiasi gani kwenye shareholding structure??
Govt of Tanzania wanaguarantee loans zote, uko hapo???

Unaweza while U are @ it, kunieleza tofauti ya hii issue ya Rites na wale wenzetu wa SAA kuimaliza ATC?? Si tuliambia kila kitu kitakuwa powa????

Nisaidie mkuu nibadili mawazo.

Hakuna habari ya ndani hata moja kwenye hii thread tazama reference zote hapo juu, utaona zinasemaje.

Kuhusu mkataba, kama unataka kuujuwa vizuri naomba wasiliana na katibu wa Bunge la Tanzania kwani Mzee Six alipokuwa akifunga Bunge alitangaza kuwa wameshaweka library ya Mikataba ya Serikali pale Bungeni Dodoma. Unaweza ukasaidiwa kuusoma ukauelewa ulivyo au unaweza kuwasiliana na mbunge wako akupatie. halafu ukishaupata uweke hapa tuuone, au kama unao tuwekee hapa tuuone, mimi na "read between the lines". Wewe unao read line by line tuonyeshe hizo line unazozisoma ziko wapi?

Ufunuo wa Yohana · Feb 28, 2008

Jamani.... Tanzania wangu umekuwa kichwa cha mwendawazimu..kila mmoja anakuja kunyoa..TRC amekwenda na maji amebakia Posta...sijui naye itakuwaje..au kwa kuwa biashara yake imekwisha binafishwa tayari. Posta limebaki jina tu lakini biashara tayari imebinafishwa...consider

DHL,
Scandinavia express,
Mohammed Trans bus service,
Sai baba
TNT,
n.k

Ukweli ni kwamba nchi yetu inahitaji mjadala mpana sana hasa ktk masuala ya utaifa. Tumeacha utaifa. Hatuna uzalendo. Ubinafsi umejaa. Kila mmoja leo hii anafanya kazi kwa kujali tumbo lake lijae na watoto wake wpate choo. Hii ni hatari mno kwa kazi za utaifa.

Ukisikia kitu wanakazania kubnafsisha ujue wameona kitu. si bure.

Lakini all in all Mungu yupo na ameanza kuwaumbua. Pesa walizochota sasa ni za moto, hata watoto wao walio na akili wanaona ujinga ambao baba zao wanafanya.

Jamani naomba muwe mnasoma Barua ya Hidaya kwa mpenzi wake Frank ktk gazeti la Raia Mwema (zimenifrahisha mno)

Moelex23 · Feb 28, 2008

Dar Es Salaam said:
Hakuna habari ya ndani hata moja kwenye hii thread tazama reference zote hapo juu, utaona zinasemaje.

Kuhusu mkataba, kama unataka kuujuwa vizuri naomba wasiliana na katibu wa Bunge la Tanzania kwani Mzee Six alipokuwa akifunga Bunge alitangaza kuwa wameshaweka library ya Mikataba ya Serikali pale Bungeni Dodoma. Unaweza ukasaidiwa kuusoma ukauelewa ulivyo au unaweza kuwasiliana na mbunge wako akupatie. halafu ukishaupata uweke hapa tuuone, au kama unao tuwekee hapa tuuone, mimi na "read between the lines". Wewe unao read line by line tuonyeshe hizo line unazozisoma ziko wapi?

du, spin zone hata kwenye jamvi la heshima kama jf???

samahani mkuu, naomba tu majibu ya maswali yangu machache baada ya wewe kuzungumzia jinsi mkataba ulivyo na ubora wa Rites.

mkataba unasema kila kitu kitanunuliwa/leased only from Rites India @ a very high price????????

Rites India wametoa kiasi gani kwenye shareholding structure??
Govt of Tanzania wanaguarantee loans zote, uko hapo???

Unaweza while U are @ it, kunieleza tofauti ya hii issue ya Rites na wale wenzetu wa SAA kuimaliza ATC?? Si tuliambia kila kitu kitakuwa powa????

natanguliza shukrani, ikiwa utastick tu kwenye hayo maswali madogo hapo juu.

FridaY · Feb 28, 2008

Dar Es Salaam said:
Hii ilikuwa part ya mkataba wa awali na haikuhitaji kuwa na tender nyingine. Na ilikuwa ni moja ya sababu za negotiations kuchukua muda mrefu sana. Na si hio tuu ya kuleta engines zilizokuwa refurbished, part ya mkataba ni pamoja na kurekebisha reli mbovu, kuleta mabehewa mengine, kubadilisha mfumo wakuliongoza shirika na kwa kifupi kuifanya iwe better kuliko ilivyo kuwa na kuna time limit ya hayo yote kufanyika, its to early kuwa judge rites kama wako on track au la, kwani hawa hii ya reli ni fani yao hata huko india si kama richmond.

Kuhusu kuleta engines na mabehewa ya zamani (refurbished), wamejieleza vizuri na kusema kuwa ya ama tuanze na haya na huduma zipatikane haraka iwekanavyo na tusijitie hasara ya kutengenezesha mabehewa mapya kwani reli yetu ni out of international standards, ya ama tungoje engines na mabehewa mapya ambayo yanachukua muda na ni ghali zaidi na itabidi yaweze kufanywa kwa kufata size ya reli yetu ambayo ni nyembamba na inabidi ipanuliwe. Ikisha panuliwa ina maana haya mabehewa aidha yafanyiwe modifications au yaletwe mapya yatayolingana na reli itayopanuliwa. Nafikiri itapopanuliwa ndio itakuwa vema kuwe na engines na mabehewa mapya.

Hapo ilikuwa ni kuchagua mkuki upi ukochome. Na I think technically wana hoja nzuri, financially cum economically sina uhakika lakini naona it makes sense, ukichukulia kuwa mabehewa mapya yatachukua time na itabidi u-ya-scrape utapopanua reli. Sijui nimeeleweka?

Dar Es Salaam.

Listen Son...

Everthing you know is wrong... hawa mafisadi their good in talking na kujieleza ... nawasiliana na Invisible nipandishe dude moja utaona kama one of your point unayojua ina apply hapo.

In short Kama Richmond wangekuwa wazabuni wa kweli ingechukua mwezi mmoja kuwa na mitambo iliyotakiwa... but same o story man. TRC kama wangepata mzabuni wa kweli then treni za kweli na tungetumia same RaiL tracks na Nyoka za Ukweli zingekuja bila kujali ughali wake.. even TIGO (MOBITEL) kam from analog Babu naw wanakimbiza kinoma IN GSM/UMTS ... how much these guy put dawn to change the system???? Nuthing iz whut it seemz Man this TRL is bunch of Mafisadi just Like Richmond.

The Truth iz hawana pesa ya kuendesha wanataka watubane I wish ungejua how much tunapoteza kila siku inayoenda kwa mungu Just becoz tumekubali kuliuza shirika letu pekee kwa hawa Mchwa.

Nitaongea zaidi nikipata viambatanishi, my advice to you iz JF iz here to make things hapened naw Seat dawn en wait for anaza Richmond Blander turn to TRL.

FridaY · Feb 28, 2008

Dar Es Salaam said:
Remember bro, TRA was almost dead and besides it still is partially owned by Tanzanians and it still is in Tanzania.

Knowledge bro knowledge, where we failed they succeed. Simpo.

Dar es Salaam,

For your Information .

Rail-India acquires 51 per cent shares in the Corporation
which henceforth becomes Tanzania Railways Limited (TRL) with the Tanzania Government retaining the remaining 49 per cent shares.

RITES is obliged to carry out normal maintenance on the existing railway lines, and rehabilitate the communication networks as whole As part of the take-over deal, the World Banks International Finance Corporation (IFC) and the International Development Agency (IDA) were expected to make available to Tanzania US$44 million and $24.75 million respectively. The money is to be spent on acquisition of locomotives, coaches.

RITES will also refurbish 648km of railway line by laying heavier tracks, as well as repair and purchase or hire new locomotives, passenger cabins and freight wagons for its operations as appropriate.

Sasa wewe Leo mnasema kununua treni mpya ni ghali sijui track nyembamba whut heaL u taking about ????

This TRL Sucks us Like Kunguni mwisho wa siku tena serikali itashia kulipa HiLo deni, Naangalia mkataba naona kabisa wanatumia kipengele gani kutumaliza hapa "as well as repair..."!!! the truth iz The RITES unaowajua wewe sio hawa uliowakabidhi TRC yako, Misdirection Son... tik tak tik tak....

Hope u wont suprised when nikupandishia ukweli wa Mafisadi wako unaowatetea hapa, this guys knows Loope hole en they real take shaaat, tengeneza kampuni hewa just brifcase en tanzania will amini then BingO.. JF r here to prove them wronG.

Interested Observer · Feb 29, 2008

FridaY said:
Dar es Salaam,

For your Information .

Rail-India acquires 51 per cent shares in the Corporation
which henceforth becomes Tanzania Railways Limited (TRL) with the Tanzania Government retaining the remaining 49 per cent shares.

RITES is obliged to carry out normal maintenance on the existing railway lines, and rehabilitate the communication networks as whole As part of the take-over deal, the World Banks International Finance Corporation (IFC) and the International Development Agency (IDA) were expected to make available to Tanzania US$44 million and $24.75 million respectively. The money is to be spent on acquisition of locomotives, coaches.

RITES will also refurbish 648km of railway line by laying heavier tracks, as well as repair and purchase or hire new locomotives, passenger cabins and freight wagons for its operations as appropriate.

Sasa wewe Leo mnasema kununua treni mpya ni ghali sijui track nyembamba whut heaL u taking about ????

This TRL Sucks us Like Kunguni mwisho wa siku tena serikali itashia kulipa HiLo deni, Naangalia mkataba naona kabisa wanatumia kipengele gani kutumaliza hapa "as well as repair..."!!! the truth iz The RITES unaowajua wewe sio hawa uliowakabidhi TRC yako, Misdirection Son... tik tak tik tak....

Hope u wont suprised when nikupandishia ukweli wa Mafisadi wako unaowatetea hapa, this guys knows Loope hole en they real take shaaat, tengeneza kampuni hewa just brifcase en tanzania will amini then BingO.. JF r here to prove them wronG.

Thank you Friday;
Kweli vichwa vyetu vigumu. Hata jamaa wamepatiwa shares 51% kwa kitu gani jamani? Wameweka nini??
Pesa zinazotolewa na IFC na IDA tutalipa sisi.
Are these investors??

FridaY · Feb 29, 2008

Dar Es Salaam said:
Naona unapouona ukweli unapata kigugumizi.

TRL will operate the railway at own cost and pay concession fees to RAHCO (Reli Assets Holding Company Limited ) now Dar es Salaam tell me the thruth here whos pay whos ??

Dont Lie speak openly then tell who is investor there Tanzania gorv or Rites from India ?? your Friend Chenge Mramba na ngasongwa sijui waulize vizuri wakwambie nini kinafukuta pale na wamepiga kiasi gani.

Nakupa Six Month utaona kama hamjarudisha TRC mikononi mwetu tena .. kama mlivyofanya kwa ATC.

Mzee Mwanakijiji · Nov 7, 2008

check vitu vya Friday naye..

Mama · Nov 7, 2008

FridaY said:
TRL will operate the railway at own cost and pay concession fees to RAHCO (Reli Assets Holding Company Limited ) now Dar es Salaam tell me the thruth here whos pay whos ??

Dont Lie speak openly then tell who is investor there Tanzania gorv or Rites from India ?? your Friend Chenge Mramba na ngasongwa sijui waulize vizuri wakwambie nini kinafukuta pale na wamepiga kiasi gani.

Nakupa Six Month utaona kama hamjarudisha TRC mikononi mwetu tena .. kama mlivyofanya kwa ATC.

Friday,

today is your day! wish you were here.

Mag3 · Nov 7, 2008

Kwa wasioijua RAHCO wanaweza kusoma hii article iliyotoka kwenye gazeti la Nipashe tarehe 2007-06-27 09:05:07

By Alfred Michael Nalitolela of SUMATRA

On 25th May, 2007 the Presidential Parastatal Sector Reform Commission (PSRC) announced that the government of Tanzania had signed an agreement with RITES (Rail India Technical and Economic Services Ltd) for the formation of a company to take over operations of the Tanzania Railways Corporation.

The new company, to be known as Tanzania Railways Limited and owned jointly by the government and RITES with 49% and 51% of the shares respectively, will run the railway under a 25-year Concession Agreement with the government.

At a later date the government will offload some of its shares to Tanzanian investors.
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The Railways Act (2002) provides that there shall be incorporated a company to be known as Reli Assets Holding Company Limited (RAHCO) with the objectives, among others, to secure the provision of, or to provide, rail infrastructure, and on behalf of the government to develop, promote and to manage the rail infrastructure assets.

The company shall, where circumstances permit, exercise its powers to operate rail infrastructure and to provide rail transport services through a delegate.

What this means is that RAHCO is the infrastructure owner on behalf of the Government and has powers to operate the railway, power which will be delegated to the concessionaire through the concession agreement.

In a nutshell, RAHCO as the owner of the railway will concede it to TRL as the concessionaire to operate.

TRL will operate the railway at own cost and pay concession fees to RAHCO.

RAHCO, as the infrastructure owner and party to the concession agreement on behalf of the government, shall be responsible for monitoring the concession agreement, including service levels, investment levels etc. .......................................................................................

In the view of this writer, the focus of RAHCO shall be predominantly on intra-firm aspects of service quality, for example vehicle type, load factor, vehicle availability, track availability etc.

The author of this article -- Engineer Alfred Michael Nalitolela -- is the Director of Railway Regulation in SUMATRA, a position which also bears the function of Chief Inspector of Railway Safety.

Before joining SUMATRA he was a Senior Executive in TAZARA for many years.

Habari ndiyo hiyo.

wajinga · Nov 8, 2008

Please the government agreed to 49/51 share deal with the government of India. Tanzania guaranteed the loan from the IFC so whats the trouble??????????? Ask your esteemed government why things are not working.

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