Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Sooth, Apr 29, 2011.
They are talking about 47 yrs of the Union.
aisee hiki ki english chao kigumu!! Yan hapa wakisema 'the' ndo naambulia.
Nizar Visram(?): Wazanzibar walidanganywa na serikali ya muungano kuhusu kujiunga na IOC, miaka 20 imepita sasa na bado hatujajiunga.
Nizar Visram: union matters should not be dealt with indoors, let's speak openly.
Nizar Visram: As Zanzibarians we have a right to complain. Why lie to us about IOC?
Nizar Visram: Another reason to question the union is that we(attorney genera and othersl)have not been consulted about the new constitution proposal/law
Nizar Visram: U hear so many voices these days because there is freedom of speech.
Dr. Ngowi: Wat we are experincing 2day is because of the way the union was founded.
Dr. Ngowi: It wasnt participatory, inclusive. Only Karume and Nyerere were involved.
Dr. Ngowi: In the new constitution- everything should be discussed.
Nizar Visram: When MP are make laws, they dont go to their people to seek opinion on a certain bill. Bills should b discussed in constituencies.
Dr. kamata ng'wanza: There are two issues-participation and a notion of countries. The size of the country is immaterial.Each country should be treated equally because two countries united to form the URT.
Hiki kipindi kingewika sana tena sana kama kingeendeshwa kwa kiswahili. Huwa wanahoja nzuri na wazungumzaji/wachambuzi wazuri na watanzania wengi wangefaidika kama si kuelemika kwa mijadala yao kama ingekuwa kwa lugha ya Kiswahili. Sijui wanalenga nani? wafadhili?
Dr. kamata ng'wanza: We have an opportunity to discuss about Union (new constitution), we have to free it from the leaders(politicians). Let it be people centered Union.
Simbeye: Will the gvt of nation union strengthen or weaken the Union?
Dr. Lwaitama: Some Political ellites only focus on power, some want Znz for personal gains. U cant talk of autonomy and yet want 2 join IOC.
N. Visram: When Znz shakes, the mainland shakes, east africa shakes. Not much homework was done (GNU-ZNZ)-it is not only power sharing but also cost sharing.
N.Visram: GNU has strengthened the Union of ZNZ and Tanganyika
Dr. Kamata: GNU has brought political stability. We have to build on that bring about economic development. Now it is not easy 2 manipulate zanzibarians. They can now front a common agenda. The union has to work 4 the people not the politicians.
Dr. Ngowi: Economically, it is easier 4 Mainland 2 prosper on its own than ZNZ on its own.
I have 2 correct, he is not N. Visram but Salim.
Salim: If the Union collapses, there will be no winners.