Tanzania's milk imports ban has hit Kenyan dairies hard!

Jay456watt said:
hata kuna wazungu na wahindi walio na njaa....my point is every country has its own challenges..but lets not forget who's who in East Africa...lets not forget the giant of this region of Africa...yule ambaye akikohoa wengine wanapata homa..anajulikana peupe...:D:D:D yaani Kenya haina competition hapa...waje wengine tupambane..ethiopia wanajaribu lakini bado...niliskia wahabeshi juzi walikufa wengi wakijaribu kuvuka Mediterranean Sea kuingia Ulaya kwa kutumia boti za mitoni....lol!
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Jay456watt said:
geza soma hapa....yaani licha ya kwamba Kenya ina pigana na ugaidi toka Somalia, imekua ikipokea wageni wengi kuliko tanzania.....the same can be said for Uganda...it received more tourists than Tanzania...lol! vipi kuhusu Serengeti na Dar beaches...inaonekana zinaozea kule...lol!
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Wewe bwege sana.....Gezaulole alisema earnings sio namba of tourists. Nyie focus yenu ni on number of tourists sisi tunaangalia revenue more. We receive less tourists but earn far much more. We attract high value tourists sio Tom Dick and Harrys!
Jay456watt said:
looking forward...Lol
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Jay456watt said:
whats your take? tumezoea ukileta habari pale chini unaweka heading 'MY TAKE'...kisha unatiririsha upuuzi na umbumbumbu wako moja kwa moja... hivi leo imekuaje mkuu?:D:D whats ur take?
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My take ni maziwa yaruhusiwe on a reciprocal basis. Namuunga mkono Magufuli. Atakayezuia maziwa ya TZ na yeye ategemee same treatment.

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simplemind said:
Nakushauri nunua Azam na Brookside long life milk halafu linganisha ubora. I am discerning consumer I do quality siyo misplaced uzalendo.
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Uwaache wanunuzi waamue na si Kenya authorities zi-ban products za Tanzania. Obvious kama Azam dairy products with different flavours r bad, won't sell they will remain in shelves n at last be removed by market forces. Allow them to get to store shelves first. That is fair competition...

Brookside n Kenyan millers know who Bakhresa group is, the reason they deploy unfair tactics! First with refusal of a plan by Bakhresa to build a milling plant in Mombasa n now a ban on his exports first wheat flour n now dairy products including ice creams.

Reason being their knowledge Bakhresa is a conglomerate of companies spreading in over 10 African countries. How many countries is Brookside operating? I hear Brookside's plan to enter Nigeria is scattered, after Dangote decided to go alone with over $800 mln of dairy production units in Northern Nigeria

Dangote set to invest $800 million in dairy production in Nigeria - Ventures Africa

While hullabaloo in 2013 n 2014 was

Brookside targets Nigeria milk market in expansion plan

Dangote targets Brookside with Kenya plant

Kenyan Dairy Company To Establish Milk Plant In Nigeria - Ventures Africa

I am pretty sure if Uhuru was not in power to institute unfair protectionism measures, by now Brookside would have collapsed.
 
Jay456watt said:
hata kuna wazungu na wahindi walio na njaa....my point is every country has its own challenges..but lets not forget who's who in East Africa...lets not forget the giant of this region of Africa...yule ambaye akikohoa wengine wanapata homa..anajulikana peupe...:D:D:D yaani Kenya haina competition hapa...waje wengine tupambane..ethiopia wanajaribu lakini bado...niliskia wahabeshi juzi walikufa wengi wakijaribu kuvuka Mediterranean Sea kuingia Ulaya kwa kutumia boti za mitoni....lol!
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Hapo kuna ukweli kabisa...Tz bado ikija kwa regional dominance



Kenya ikichemua lazima EAC yote ishikwe na homa, lakini wengine wakichemua si lazma Kenya ishikwe namafua


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Kafrican said:
Hapo kuna ukweli kabisa...Tz bado ikija kwa regional dominance



Kenya ikichemua lazima EAC yote ishikwe na homa, lakini wengine wakichemua si lazma Kenya ishikwe namafua


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500 bln out of 17trl? What percent is that n derived from which stocks? Are they leading stocks at DSE? WACHA UPUMBAVU nobody buys loss making KQ, EABL or UCHUMI or JUBILEE shares, very few individuals do n hence underperfoming..CRDB shares is the main reason overthere! Right know individuals r busy with Vodacom shares.

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Geza Ulole said:
500 bln out of 17trl? What percent is that n derived from which stocks? Are they leading stocks at DSE?

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That's 225 million dollars disappeared!! I don't know about you but that's alot of money from Kenyan companies listed in DSE, I doubt if Tz companies have similar numbers bieng played around by stock investors in Kenya.
Anyway, do you think Kenya's NSE would have suffered the same effect if the situation was reversed under same condition?
 
No, n the main reason being no Tanzanian company is listed at NSE! Ironically Tanzanian individuals, parastatals n companies r partly owners of those Kenyan companies!

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Kafrican said:
That's 225 million dollars disappeared!! I don't know about you but that's alot of money from Kenyan companies listed in DSE, I doubt if Tz companies have similar numbers bieng played around by stock investors in Kenya.
Anyway, do you think Kenya's NSE would have suffered the same effect if the situation was reversed under same condition?
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Magufuli puts Uhuru’s Milk Company in a Tight Corner

MARKET NEWS

December 5, 2015 Kenyan WallStreet

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Magufuli puts Uhuru’s Milk Company in a Tight Position

The fate of the Kenyatta-family owned milk processing firm Brookeside Ltd in the Tanzanian market has been sealed.

Newly-elected Tanzanian President John Magufuli has accused Brookeside of ‘unfriendly’ business practices. While addressing Tanzania Private Sector Foundation on Thursday, he said it was not fair for Brookside Dairy Limited to collect milk from Tanzania, process it in Kenya and then sell back to them.

“How many dairy firms do we have that are operational? Do you remember the Brookside company in Arusha? It used to collect milk from the Maasais in northern parts of Tanzania, take it to Kenya for processing then bring it back to us to drink… Enough is enough,” he told the business people.

The statement dimmed hopes of the Kenyatta family business’ plans to re-enter the market after forced exit in 2009. Tanzania banned Brookside’s milk collection and directed that all milk produced must be processed locally.

Mr John Gethi, the general manager of milk procurement and extension services, had disclosed that the company has plans to resume the collection in order to supplement to erratic supply from Kenya.

Brookside, the largest dairy processing company in East Africa, is co-owned by the Kenyatta family and a French company – Danone. The Kenyatta’s sold 40% of their shares to the French in 2014 at an undisclosed amount.

The processor, through its Brookside Dairy Tanzania Ltd, had acquired Tanzania Dairies’ Arusha plant in 2004 with the promise of turning it into a state-of-the art milk processing unit but later changed its strategy citing low milk supply.

Government officials were angered with the continued export of the milk to Brookside’s Ruiru-based plant saying the business model denied locals employment hence the ban.

Source: (Business Today)

Magufuli puts Uhuru’s Milk Company in a Tight Corner

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Geza Ulole said:
No, n the main reason being no Tanzanian company is listed at NSE! Ironically Tanzanian individuals, parastatals n companies r partly owners of those Kenyan companies!

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Mara unasema nobody(tanzanians) buys shares in those loss making Kenyan companies....then next thing after that unasema Tanzanians are part owners of the companies...which is which...pick a point and stick to it
 
Geza Ulole said:
Magufuli puts Uhuru’s Milk Company in a Tight Corner

MARKET NEWS

December 5, 2015 Kenyan WallStreet

[https://docs]

Magufuli puts Uhuru’s Milk Company in a Tight Position

The fate of the Kenyatta-family owned milk processing firm Brookeside Ltd in the Tanzanian market has been sealed.

Newly-elected Tanzanian President John Magufuli has accused Brookeside of ‘unfriendly’ business practices. While addressing Tanzania Private Sector Foundation on Thursday, he said it was not fair for Brookside Dairy Limited to collect milk from Tanzania, process it in Kenya and then sell back to them.

“How many dairy firms do we have that are operational? Do you remember the Brookside company in Arusha? It used to collect milk from the Maasais in northern parts of Tanzania, take it to Kenya for processing then bring it back to us to drink… Enough is enough,” he told the business people.

The statement dimmed hopes of the Kenyatta family business’ plans to re-enter the market after forced exit in 2009. Tanzania banned Brookside’s milk collection and directed that all milk produced must be processed locally.

Mr John Gethi, the general manager of milk procurement and extension services, had disclosed that the company has plans to resume the collection in order to supplement to erratic supply from Kenya.

Brookside, the largest dairy processing company in East Africa, is co-owned by the Kenyatta family and a French company – Danone. The Kenyatta’s sold 40% of their shares to the French in 2014 at an undisclosed amount.

The processor, through its Brookside Dairy Tanzania Ltd, had acquired Tanzania Dairies’ Arusha plant in 2004 with the promise of turning it into a state-of-the art milk processing unit but later changed its strategy citing low milk supply.

Government officials were angered with the continued export of the milk to Brookside’s Ruiru-based plant saying the business model denied locals employment hence the ban.

Source: (Business Today)

Magufuli puts Uhuru’s Milk Company in a Tight Corner

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"but later changed its strategy citing low milk supply"...!

Anyways, as always, you guys like to celebrate before you even achieve anything.... Come back when Tanzania has built a state of the art milk processing plant that will be so big it will threaten Kenya's milk industry.... Right now all I see from that article is Tanzanian Milk farmers have been denied access to a willing buyer of milk without an alternative, brookside or any Kenyan milk company wont die because of Tz, they will just suffer losses for a few months and move on to the next market....Also they have a strong market in Kenya, remember Kenya hast the highest milk consumption (per capita) in Africa and the developing world.


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Did Magu do his research before he uttered those words about raw milk bieng bought by kenya then resold to Tz at premium price... What if the raw milk bieng imported into Kenya was being sold more than the one taken back to Tz??? You just punished your own famers for no reason
 
Kafrican said:
"but later changed its strategy citing low milk supply"...!

Anyways, as always, you guys like to celebrate before you even achieve anything.... Come back when Tanzania has built a state of the art milk processing plant that will be so big it will threaten Kenya's milk industry.... Right now all I see from that article is Tanzanian Milk farmers have been denied access to a willing buyer of milk without an alternative, brookside or any Kenyan milk company wont die because of Tz, they will just suffer losses for a few months and move on to the next market....Also they have a strong market in Kenya, remember Kenya hast the highest milk consumption (per capita) in Africa and the developing world.


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Did Magu do his research before he uttered those words about raw milk bieng bought by kenya then resold to Tz at premium price... What if the raw milk bieng imported into Kenya was being sold more than the one taken back to Tz??? You just punished your own famers for no reason
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Azam dairy r to be given that plant n FYI ur dairy industry can be taken down anytime none of of dairies have muscles to compete with Azam. Open that border n dance to the music. If ur industry was that big them u should hav entered Nigerian market ever since n not waiting till Dangote opens up his over US $ 800 mln facilities. What a loser nation?

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Kafrican said:
Mara unasema nobody(tanzanians) buys shares in those loss making Kenyan companies....then next thing after that unasema Tanzanians are part owners of the companies...which is which...pick a point and stick to it
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Nobody as for now. The underlying issue is their state at DSE is insignificant.

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