Somalia, nchi inayopiga marufuku kusherehekea Krismas, yapanga kuomba kuingia EAC

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Somalia plans to re-apply to join the six-member East African Community (EAC) bloc in 2017, the country's ambassador said Sunday.

Somali Ambassador to Kenya Gamal Hassan told journalists in Nairobi that its application in 2016 was postponed as it had not met all the requirements of admission.

"Hopefully our application to join the EAC will receive a positive response during the EAC summit in 2017," Hassan said during the Eastleigh Business Summit, which brought together business people from the Somali business community in Kenya.

EAC partner states include Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Burundi, Rwanda and South Sudan.

Hassan said Somalia's membership will help boost trade between Somalia and its EAC neighbors. "It will also help provide employment opportunities for youth in the region," he added.

Remember this: Somalia bans Christmas celebrations - BBC News
 

Raymie Kenya

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They have to reform there institutions first before they are admitted to the East African community.
good thing is that they will provide huge market for Kenya's goods .here comes the question of security especially alshabaab
 

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They have to reform there institutions first before they are admitted to the East African community.
good thing is that they will provide huge market for Kenya's goods .here comes the question of security especially alshabaab
Hahahaa.....after admitting South Sudan, I don't think the EAC has the authority to talk about institutional reform as a precondition for admission!
 

Raymie Kenya

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Hahahaa.....after admitting South Sudan, I don't think the EAC has the authority to talk about institutional reform as a precondition for admission!

you are right Cicero ,what about insecurity that Somalia will cause to the region? you know SS is not security threat to the region
 

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Christmas.. is your point..!
You would like to potray as if EAC is a Christian club..so Somali being a muslim county does not qualify..
Frank speaking Somali is more to EA compared to Burundi Rwanda and Juba.
Am sure Kenya Uganda will have no objection...Tanzania will mind...other do not care
 

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Christmas.. is your point..!
You would like to potray as if EAC is a Christian club..so Somali being a muslim county does not qualify..
Frank speaking Somali is more to EA compared to Burundi Rwanda and Juba.
Am sure Kenya Uganda will have no objection...Tanzania will mind...other do not care
Freedom of worship is my point, and i make reference to the EAC bill of human rights! We should have common standards and understanding/position on human rights. It is a building block to sustainable political and social integration
 

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Freedom of worship is my point, and i make reference to the EAC bill of human rights! We should have common standards and understanding/position on human rights. It is a building block to sustainable political and social integration
Ahaaa...then No Eid celebration in Uganda,Burundi Rwanda even Juba
Islamic holidays are only recognized in Tz and Ke.
in Ke they have only one day muslim holiday..in Tz we have 3.
i think this is not an issue..every country has the right to set its holidays.
 

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Somalia plans to re-apply to join the six-member East African Community (EAC) bloc in 2017, the country's ambassador said Sunday.

Somali Ambassador to Kenya Gamal Hassan told journalists in Nairobi that its application in 2016 was postponed as it had not met all the requirements of admission.

"Hopefully our application to join the EAC will receive a positive response during the EAC summit in 2017," Hassan said during the Eastleigh Business Summit, which brought together business people from the Somali business community in Kenya.

EAC partner states include Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Burundi, Rwanda and South Sudan.

Hassan said Somalia's membership will help boost trade between Somalia and its EAC neighbors. "It will also help provide employment opportunities for youth in the region," he added.

Remember this: Somalia bans Christmas celebrations - BBC News

Wazungu wenyewe waliotuletea Krismasi wanaanza kuipiga marufuku polepole, ije kuwa Somalia? Kwani tatizo ni nini? Si ni nchi yao? Zaidi ya 98% ya Wananchi wa Somalia ni Waislamu hivyo hakuna atakayedhurika, binafsi napendekeza Somalia iingie AM, kwani Wasomali watatusaidia sana kuijenga AM kiuchumi, Wasomali ni jamii ya watu wanaojiamini na wanaojituma sana na wakitulia na mambo ya yakipoa Somalia hakuna nchi ya kushindana na Somalia kiuchumi hapa Afrika hata Wazungu wanalijua hilo na ndiyo maana hawataki Somalia itulie!
 

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Christmas.. is your point..!
You would like to potray as if EAC is a Christian club..so Somali being a muslim county does not qualify..
Frank speaking Somali is more to EA compared to Burundi Rwanda and Juba.
Am sure Kenya Uganda will have no objection...Tanzania will mind...other do not care
Wonders will never end from the other side, the question to ask here is, are we Christian Country? Christianity is one of the vital Criteria to be enrolled as member?
 

Cicero

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Wazungu wenyewe waliotuletea Krismasi wanaanza kuipiga marufuku polepole, ije kuwa Somalia? Kwani tatizo ni nini? Si ni nchi yao? Zaidi ya 98% ya Wananchi wa Somalia ni Waislamu hivyo hakuna atakayedhurika, binafsi napendekeza Somalia iingie AM, kwani Wasomali watatusaidia sana kuijenga AM kiuchumi, Wasomali ni jamii ya watu wanaojiamini na wanaojituma sana na wakitulia na mambo ya yakipoa Somalia hakuna nchi ya kushindana na Somalia kiuchumi hapa Afrika hata Wazungu wanalijua hilo na ndiyo maana hawataki Somalia itulie!
Hakuna nchi ya wazungu iliyopiga marufuku Christmas
Pili, hata kama wao ni 98% muslim, wajue kwamba Afika Mashariki ina soko la pamoja linalotoa haki ya raia kuhama na kuishi katika sehemu yoyote ya Afrika Mashariki (Free movement of labor and the rights of establishment and residence). Many East Africans are Christians its a fact. So they should know kwamba if they want to join they need to grant freedom of worship la sivyo wasahau kabisa!
 

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EAC should be an exclusive club where you are invited, you don't invite yourself then wait for approval... The moment we accepted S.Sudan without placing it in some kind of observer status EAC became a whore
 

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Christmas.. is your point..!
You would like to potray as if EAC is a Christian club..so Somali being a muslim county does not qualify..
Frank speaking Somali is more to EA compared to Burundi Rwanda and Juba.
Am sure Kenya Uganda will have no objection...Tanzania will mind...other do not care
 

Cicero

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Wonders will never end from the other side, the question to ask here is, are we Christian Country? Christianity is one of the vital Criteria to be enrolled as member?
No....but freedom of worship is. In fact, the draft EAC bill of human and peoples rights states:
20. (1) Every person has the right to freedom of conscience, religion, thought, belief and opinion.
(2) Every person has the right, either individually or in community with others, in public or in private, to manifest any religion or belief through worship, observance, including observance of a day of worship, practice or teaching.
(3) A religious community may establish and run places of education at its own expense and to provide religious instruction for persons of that community in the course of providing the education.
(4) Religious observance or religious instruction may be conducted at a State or State-aided institution, if- (a) conducted on an equitable basis; and (b) attendance at such religious observance or religious instruction is voluntary.
(5) A person may not be denied access to any institution, employment or facility or the enjoyment of any right, for reasons of that person's religious beliefs.
(6) A person shall not be compelled to- (a) take an oath that is contrary to that person's religion or belief or that involves expressing a belief that the person does not hold; (b) take an oath in a manner that is contrary to that person's religion or belief or that involves expressing a belief that the person does not hold; (c) receive religious instruction or to take part in or attend a religious ceremony or to observe a day of rest or other observance that relates to a religion that is not that person's religion; (d) pertorm, observe or undergo a rite or a religious practice; (e) disclose that person's belief or religious conviction; or (f) engage in any other act that is contrary to that person's belief or religion
 

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Hakuna nchi ya wazungu iliyopiga marufuku Christmas
Pili, hata kama wao ni 98% muslim, wajue kwamba Afika Mashariki ina soko la pamoja linalotoa haki ya raia kuhama na kuishi katika sehemu yoyote ya Afrika Mashariki (Free movement of labor and the rights of establishment and residence). Many East Africans are Christians its a fact. So they should know kwamba if they want to join they need to grant freedom of worship la sivyo wasahau kabisa!

Nimesema wanaanza kupiga marufuku pole pole, sasa hivi USA ma-neoliberals hawasemi tena Marry X-mas bali wanasema ,,Happy hollidays" na Ulaya hivyo hivyo wameshaanza kuhoji misalaba mashuleni na kwenye maeneo ya wazi na kuna baadhi ya Miji wameanza kuondoa Sanamu za kidini zilizokuwepo kwa karne nyingi tu!
 

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Nimesema wanaanza kupiga marufuku pole pole, sasa hivi USA ma-neoliberals hawasemi tena Marry X-mas bali wanasema ,,Happy hollidays" na Ulaya hivyo hivyo wameshaanza kuhoji misalaba mashuleni na kwenye maeneo ya wazi na kuna baadhi ya Miji wameanza kuondoa Sanamu za kidini zilizokuwepo kwa karne nyingi tu!
Wewe it seems hujawai kuwa huko kipindi cha Christmas ukajua how it is celebrated!
Hata wakifanya hayo yote they still allow freedom of worship, unlike watu wengine wakiingia wanaimpose their beliefs on others!
 

Cicero

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EAC should be an exclusive club where you are invited, you don't invite yourself then wait for approval... The moment we accepted S.Sudan without placing it in some kind of observer status EAC became a whore
Hahahahaaaa.......not a whore really....more like that time Sansa Stark was defiled by that Bolton bastard!
 

Barbarosa

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Wewe it seems hujawai kuwa huko kipindi cha Christmas ukajua how it is celebrated!
Hata wakifanya hayo yote they still allow freedom of worship, unlike watu wengine wakiingia wanaimpose their beliefs on others!

Nisome vizuri narudia tena, sijasema imepigwa marufuku bali wanaanza kuiondoa pole pole na ndiyo maana hata msemo unabadilika sasa hivi wanasema Happy Hollidays badala ya Merry Christmas, unajua ni kwa nini?

A Merry Christmas: before it's abolished | Daily Mail Online
 

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hawa ndiyo ile jamii ya wakina Boko Haram, na ISS watu wanaoijua Dini Kuliko Mtume Mwenyewe.

Wakati Mtume Aliishi na Jamii ya watu Ambao hawakuwa Imani yake na Aliishi nao Kwa Upendo Mkubwa.

Sasa sijui huu Uislam wa Siku Hizi unao Bagua watu Umetoka Wapi?
 

Cicero

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Ahaaa...then No Eid celebration in Uganda,Burundi Rwanda even Juba
Islamic holidays are only recognized in Tz and Ke.
in Ke they have only one day muslim holiday..in Tz we have 3.
i think this is not an issue..every country has the right to set its holidays.
Then those countries you mentioned violate EAC principles and need to review their calendars.
Ukishafungua mipaka tambua kuna watu kutoka Somalia, Kenya na Zanzibar watakuja na watataka kusherehekea Eid. So it goes both ways!
 

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