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Baada ya USA kukataa kwamba Alshabab ni magaidi, Kongamano la uslama wa dunia la umoja wa mataifa limetoa Tamko hili la pamoja.

Kenya lazima ikome kuingilia nchi zingine na kuabudu Mabeberu..Damu za kdf zimemwagika bure..Mabeberu wapo sasa mbio kununua bahari la somalia kwa manufaa yao

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Kenya’s bid to classify Shabaab a terrorist group fails
FRIDAY AUGUST 30 2019




Al-Shabaab

Foreign Affairs Principal Secretary Macharia Kamau speaks about efforts to rescue the abducted Cuban doctors, at his Nairobi office on April 16, 2019. He wants more attention directed at vanquishing Al-Shabaab. PHOTO | FILE | NATION MEDIA GROUP
In Summary
  • Mr Kamau argued that Al-Shabaab is subverting the purpose of humanitarian aid by diverting it from civilians, an action no one should support.
  • The bid to have Al-Shabaab listed as a terrorist group was initially resisted by the UK and the US when Kenya first fronted the proposal in 2014.
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AGGREY MUTAMBO
By AGGREY MUTAMBO
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Earlier accusations that Kenya soldiers were involved in illegal charcoal trade in Somalia returned to haunt Nairobi’s bid to have militant group Al-Shabaab listed as a terrorist group.
On Thursday, Kenya was fuming after the UN Security Council rejected its proposal to place the group in the same league as Al-Qaeda and ISIS, with Somalia specifically lobbying against tighter sanctions against the militants.
“We are disappointed because it seems unconscionable that any country, least of all a country that is in the UN Security Council, and that has lost its citizens in the terror attacks of Al-Shabaab, would not wish to see all necessary measures brought to bear on this hideous organisation,” Foreign Affairs Principal Secretary Macharia Kamau told the Nation.
Acknowledging “surprise” at the decision, Mr Kamau said Kenya will continue to fight Al-Shabaab “using all the means necessary and available to it, including the currently existing sanction regimes that we have fought for previously and that are in force within the UNSCV counterterrorism regime”.
CHARCOAL TRADE
The decision means Kenya and the region will continue to deal with Al-Shabaab using sanctions that were aimed at controlling civil conflict in Somalia, and not those meant to tackle terrorism, despite loopholes that could allow the militants to prosper.
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Mr Abukar Dahir Osman, Somalia’s permanent representative to the UN in New York, claimed that Al-Shabaab can be tamed through existing UN Security Council resolutions as long as there is regional cooperation.
“[We] urge [the] Kenyan government to implement existing Security Council Resolution 751 targeting AS [Al Shabaab], including the ban on illegal charcoal trade in Somalia, which is the lifeline of the AS to finance its operations in the region,” he wrote on his Twitter page on Wednesday night.
The bid to have Al-Shabaab listed as a terrorist group was initially resisted by the UK and the US when Kenya first fronted the proposal in 2014.
But the change of heart by Somalia, which supported Kenya in 2014, is likely to baffle the region.
SANCTIONS
The Somali envoy said Kenya’s suggestion was “unjustified”, suggesting that Kenya had failed to stop the illegal charcoal trade that was Al-Shabaab’s mainstay, alongside piracy.
He was referring to various UN Monitoring Group reports on Eritrea and Somalia, which said that the Kenya Defence Forces, who are part of the African Union Mission in Somalia, were collaborating with the militants to continue exporting charcoal using the port of Kismayu. Kenya has invariably denied the claim.
Kenya, Somalia, the US and several other countries have already declared Al-Shabaab a terrorist group.

This year, Kenya wanted the sanctions against the group elevated and listed under Security Council Resolution 1267 of 1999 (and amended several times to suit situations).
EMASCULATE
Mr Kamau argued that Al-Shabaab is subverting the purpose of humanitarian aid by diverting it from civilians, an action no one should support.
He argued that such listing could bring more international focus on Al-Shabaab, like the coalition that has fought and weakened ISIS, and limit the impact of Al-Shabaab through a blanket imposition of harsh sanctions.
Under resolution 1267, the group could still be banned from travelling, have its assets frozen and barred from receiving training or buying weapons from the open international market.
But it could also mean no humanitarian agency would be allowed to deal with them in areas they operate, and countries or organisations found flouting this could be penalised. This was strongly opposed by US lobby groups.
 
Walijipendekeza sana kwa wazungu enzi za ukombozi wa Africa, hivi sasa wazungu wamewageuka wanatafuta kuungwa mkono na nchi za Africa.

Hata katika kuwania kiti cha baraza la usalama UN, wazungu wataichagua Djibouti dhidi ya Kenya, dhambi la usaliti wa Africa lazima litaitafuna Kenya.
 
Baada ya USA kukataa kwamba Alshabab ni magaidi, Kongamano la uslama wa dunia la umoja wa mataifa limetoa Tamko hili la pamoja.

Kenya lazima ikome kuingilia nchi zingine na kuabudu Mabeberu..Damu za kdf zimemwagika bure..Mabeberu wapo sasa mbio kununua bahari la somalia kwa manufaa yao

Kenyatta- 0
Farmajo - 3

Mchezo ni dakika 90'

==============================

Kenya’s bid to classify Shabaab a terrorist group fails
FRIDAY AUGUST 30 2019




Al-Shabaab

Foreign Affairs Principal Secretary Macharia Kamau speaks about efforts to rescue the abducted Cuban doctors, at his Nairobi office on April 16, 2019. He wants more attention directed at vanquishing Al-Shabaab. PHOTO | FILE | NATION MEDIA GROUP
In Summary
  • Mr Kamau argued that Al-Shabaab is subverting the purpose of humanitarian aid by diverting it from civilians, an action no one should support.
  • The bid to have Al-Shabaab listed as a terrorist group was initially resisted by the UK and the US when Kenya first fronted the proposal in 2014.
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AGGREY MUTAMBO
By AGGREY MUTAMBO
More by this Author
Earlier accusations that Kenya soldiers were involved in illegal charcoal trade in Somalia returned to haunt Nairobi’s bid to have militant group Al-Shabaab listed as a terrorist group.
On Thursday, Kenya was fuming after the UN Security Council rejected its proposal to place the group in the same league as Al-Qaeda and ISIS, with Somalia specifically lobbying against tighter sanctions against the militants.
“We are disappointed because it seems unconscionable that any country, least of all a country that is in the UN Security Council, and that has lost its citizens in the terror attacks of Al-Shabaab, would not wish to see all necessary measures brought to bear on this hideous organisation,” Foreign Affairs Principal Secretary Macharia Kamau told the Nation.
Acknowledging “surprise” at the decision, Mr Kamau said Kenya will continue to fight Al-Shabaab “using all the means necessary and available to it, including the currently existing sanction regimes that we have fought for previously and that are in force within the UNSCV counterterrorism regime”.
CHARCOAL TRADE
The decision means Kenya and the region will continue to deal with Al-Shabaab using sanctions that were aimed at controlling civil conflict in Somalia, and not those meant to tackle terrorism, despite loopholes that could allow the militants to prosper.
RELATED STORIES
ADVERTISEMENT


Mr Abukar Dahir Osman, Somalia’s permanent representative to the UN in New York, claimed that Al-Shabaab can be tamed through existing UN Security Council resolutions as long as there is regional cooperation.
“[We] urge [the] Kenyan government to implement existing Security Council Resolution 751 targeting AS [Al Shabaab], including the ban on illegal charcoal trade in Somalia, which is the lifeline of the AS to finance its operations in the region,” he wrote on his Twitter page on Wednesday night.
The bid to have Al-Shabaab listed as a terrorist group was initially resisted by the UK and the US when Kenya first fronted the proposal in 2014.
But the change of heart by Somalia, which supported Kenya in 2014, is likely to baffle the region.
SANCTIONS
The Somali envoy said Kenya’s suggestion was “unjustified”, suggesting that Kenya had failed to stop the illegal charcoal trade that was Al-Shabaab’s mainstay, alongside piracy.
He was referring to various UN Monitoring Group reports on Eritrea and Somalia, which said that the Kenya Defence Forces, who are part of the African Union Mission in Somalia, were collaborating with the militants to continue exporting charcoal using the port of Kismayu. Kenya has invariably denied the claim.
Kenya, Somalia, the US and several other countries have already declared Al-Shabaab a terrorist group.

This year, Kenya wanted the sanctions against the group elevated and listed under Security Council Resolution 1267 of 1999 (and amended several times to suit situations).
EMASCULATE
Mr Kamau argued that Al-Shabaab is subverting the purpose of humanitarian aid by diverting it from civilians, an action no one should support.
He argued that such listing could bring more international focus on Al-Shabaab, like the coalition that has fought and weakened ISIS, and limit the impact of Al-Shabaab through a blanket imposition of harsh sanctions.
Under resolution 1267, the group could still be banned from travelling, have its assets frozen and barred from receiving training or buying weapons from the open international market.
But it could also mean no humanitarian agency would be allowed to deal with them in areas they operate, and countries or organisations found flouting this could be penalised. This was strongly opposed by US lobby groups.
If i was a Kenyan president this is what i would do to US camp Simba aimed at fighting shabab. Since stupid Murica is saying that Shabab are not a terrorist org, i would close camp simba since it has no use. The purpose of camp Simba is to fight terror yet Shabab is not a terrorist org so camp Simba has no purpose in this region since there is no terrorist org in this region. I would also limit American military access to Kenyan resources that are directed in fighting Shabab e.g airports and refuelling missions and so on since shabab is not a terrorist org. I would also limit our purchases of American weapons that were supposed to fight terror since Shabab is not a terrorist org. I would systematically ramp up purchase of Chinese and Russian weapons on condition that they recognise Shabab as a terrorist org. I would reduce military training from US and redirect it to Russia and China as long as they recognise Shabab as a terrorist org. In 2015 Shabab killed 150 innocent students at Garissa university. 67 people at westgate in 2013. 21 people in 2019 in Nairobi. Cummulatively more than a thousand Kenyans both civilians and soldiers have lost their lives fighting this terrorist org. I would not back down. But that is in my dreams. It will never happen. Kenya will accept this absurd decision and will allow America to do as it pleases.
 
Hii UN ni nonsense yaani kuna magaidi wazuri na wabaya
Tunasubiri maamuzi ya ICJ tuone kati ya KenyaJubaland na Somalia/Ethiopia, nani kati ya makundi haya mawili atakayeibuka mahindi. Farmajo hoyeeeeeeee!!
 
If i was a Kenyan president this is what i would do to US camp Simba aimed at fighting shabab. Since stupid Murica is saying that Shabab are not a terrorist org, i would close camp simba since it has no use. The purpose of camp Simba is to fight terror yet Shabab is not a terrorist org so camp Simba has no purpose in this region since there is no terrorist org in this region. I would also limit American military access to Kenyan resources that are directed in fighting Shabab e.g airports and refuelling missions and so on since shabab is not a terrorist org. I would also limit our purchases of American weapons that were supposed to fight terror since Shabab is not a terrorist org. I would systematically ramp up purchase of Chinese and Russian weapons on condition that they recognise Shabab as a terrorist org. I would reduce military training from US and redirect it to Russia and China as long as they recognise Shabab as a terrorist org. In 2015 Shabab killed 150 innocent students at Garissa university. 67 people at westgate in 2013. 21 people in 2019 in Nairobi. Cummulatively more than a thousand Kenyans both civilians and soldiers have lost their lives fighting this terrorist org. I would not back down. But that is in my dreams. It will never happen. Kenya will accept this absurd decision and will allow America to do as it pleases.
Sasa ndio wakenya wengi wataona busara ya Msimamo wa Mwalimu Nyerere
 
Hakuna Mkenya amewahi sema ati Nyerere alikuwa mbaya. Wakenya wanamheshimu Nyerere ama hujui hivyo? Infact Nyerere anaheshimika Afrika nzima. Pengine useme leaders wa Kenya lakini sio wananchi maana wananchi wanajua Nyerere ako sawa.
Wewe ni miongoni mwa wakenya wachache sana wenye akili, tatizo umezaliwa katika "wrong country", hamia huku tafadhali kabla hawajakuambukiza ujinga huko.
 
Baada ya USA kukataa kwamba Alshabab ni magaidi, Kongamano la uslama wa dunia la umoja wa mataifa limetoa Tamko hili la pamoja.

Kenya lazima ikome kuingilia nchi zingine na kuabudu Mabeberu..Damu za kdf zimemwagika bure..Mabeberu wapo sasa mbio kununua bahari la somalia kwa manufaa yao

Kenyatta- 0
Farmajo - 3

Mchezo ni dakika 90'

==============================

Kenya’s bid to classify Shabaab a terrorist group fails
FRIDAY AUGUST 30 2019




Al-Shabaab

Foreign Affairs Principal Secretary Macharia Kamau speaks about efforts to rescue the abducted Cuban doctors, at his Nairobi office on April 16, 2019. He wants more attention directed at vanquishing Al-Shabaab. PHOTO | FILE | NATION MEDIA GROUP
In Summary
  • Mr Kamau argued that Al-Shabaab is subverting the purpose of humanitarian aid by diverting it from civilians, an action no one should support.
  • The bid to have Al-Shabaab listed as a terrorist group was initially resisted by the UK and the US when Kenya first fronted the proposal in 2014.
ADVERTISEMENT


AGGREY MUTAMBO
By AGGREY MUTAMBO
More by this Author
Earlier accusations that Kenya soldiers were involved in illegal charcoal trade in Somalia returned to haunt Nairobi’s bid to have militant group Al-Shabaab listed as a terrorist group.
On Thursday, Kenya was fuming after the UN Security Council rejected its proposal to place the group in the same league as Al-Qaeda and ISIS, with Somalia specifically lobbying against tighter sanctions against the militants.
“We are disappointed because it seems unconscionable that any country, least of all a country that is in the UN Security Council, and that has lost its citizens in the terror attacks of Al-Shabaab, would not wish to see all necessary measures brought to bear on this hideous organisation,” Foreign Affairs Principal Secretary Macharia Kamau told the Nation.
Acknowledging “surprise” at the decision, Mr Kamau said Kenya will continue to fight Al-Shabaab “using all the means necessary and available to it, including the currently existing sanction regimes that we have fought for previously and that are in force within the UNSCV counterterrorism regime”.
CHARCOAL TRADE
The decision means Kenya and the region will continue to deal with Al-Shabaab using sanctions that were aimed at controlling civil conflict in Somalia, and not those meant to tackle terrorism, despite loopholes that could allow the militants to prosper.
RELATED STORIES
ADVERTISEMENT


Mr Abukar Dahir Osman, Somalia’s permanent representative to the UN in New York, claimed that Al-Shabaab can be tamed through existing UN Security Council resolutions as long as there is regional cooperation.
“[We] urge [the] Kenyan government to implement existing Security Council Resolution 751 targeting AS [Al Shabaab], including the ban on illegal charcoal trade in Somalia, which is the lifeline of the AS to finance its operations in the region,” he wrote on his Twitter page on Wednesday night.
The bid to have Al-Shabaab listed as a terrorist group was initially resisted by the UK and the US when Kenya first fronted the proposal in 2014.
But the change of heart by Somalia, which supported Kenya in 2014, is likely to baffle the region.
SANCTIONS
The Somali envoy said Kenya’s suggestion was “unjustified”, suggesting that Kenya had failed to stop the illegal charcoal trade that was Al-Shabaab’s mainstay, alongside piracy.
He was referring to various UN Monitoring Group reports on Eritrea and Somalia, which said that the Kenya Defence Forces, who are part of the African Union Mission in Somalia, were collaborating with the militants to continue exporting charcoal using the port of Kismayu. Kenya has invariably denied the claim.
Kenya, Somalia, the US and several other countries have already declared Al-Shabaab a terrorist group.

This year, Kenya wanted the sanctions against the group elevated and listed under Security Council Resolution 1267 of 1999 (and amended several times to suit situations).
EMASCULATE
Mr Kamau argued that Al-Shabaab is subverting the purpose of humanitarian aid by diverting it from civilians, an action no one should support.
He argued that such listing could bring more international focus on Al-Shabaab, like the coalition that has fought and weakened ISIS, and limit the impact of Al-Shabaab through a blanket imposition of harsh sanctions.
Under resolution 1267, the group could still be banned from travelling, have its assets frozen and barred from receiving training or buying weapons from the open international market.
But it could also mean no humanitarian agency would be allowed to deal with them in areas they operate, and countries or organisations found flouting this could be penalised. This was strongly opposed by US lobby groups.
Daaah hawa US wasenge aisee.
Hapa kuna geopolitical interest wanaitaka mpk kuhalalisha uharam wa alshabab.
Maana mbona 1996 walimuua Farah Aidid na kupigana nao km hao sio magaidi???
Nimeamin MABEBERU wakitaka kitu hukilinda kwa namna zao.
Pole wakenya.
 
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