Pope Francis 'confirms Vatican gay lobby'

ByaseL · Jun 13, 2013

Pope Francis is reported to have acknowledged the existence of a "gay lobby" inside the Vatican.

He also said there was a "stream of corruption", according to reports in Catholic media.

He is said to have made the remarks during a private meeting with a group of Latin American Catholic clerics.

The clerics wrote up a report of the conversation that then appeared on the Chilean website Reflection and Liberation.

Previous rumours

According to the report, the Pope was extremely open as he discussed problems at the Vatican.

He is said to have told the Latin American delegation that there were good, holy men in the administration, but that there was also corruption.

The Vatican would have to "see what we can do" about the "gay lobby" operating in the bureaucracy, he said. "It is true, it is there," the report quotes him as saying.

In the days leading up to Pope Benedict XVI's resignation in February, the Italian media carried many un-sourced reports that gay Vatican clergymen had been working together to advance their personal interests, leaving the Holy See vulnerable to blackmail.

There were even suggestions that the situation had influenced Benedict's decision to resign.

Source: Monitor

At the time, the Vatican vigorously denied all the rumours.

Bigirita · Jun 13, 2013

Media need to sell.......thats all they need to be doing right now!
Sell shi.t and some more shi.t!

Ehud · Jun 13, 2013

Yes; good people and bad people has always existed in the world let alone Vatican.....and always it will be like that till Messiah come again!

ndetichia · Jun 13, 2013

kumbe ni rumours bana maana nilikuwa nshaanza kuona hii hatari ya sasa inakula hadi vatican..

pmwasyoke · Jun 13, 2013

Ehud said:
Yes; good people and bad people has always existed in the world let alone Vatican.....and always it will be like that till Messiah come again!

Without forgetting that even some of angels turned bad and revolted against God, their creator. So there is always the bad alongside the good.

Bubu Msemaovyo · Jun 13, 2013

ByaseL said:
Pope Francis is reported to have acknowledged the existence of a "gay lobby" inside the Vatican.

He also said there was a "stream of corruption", according to reports in Catholic media.

He is said to have made the remarks during a private meeting with a group of Latin American Catholic clerics.

The clerics wrote up a report of the conversation that then appeared on the Chilean website Reflection and Liberation.

Previous rumours

According to the report, the Pope was extremely open as he discussed problems at the Vatican.

He is said to have told the Latin American delegation that there were good, holy men in the administration, but that there was also corruption.

The Vatican would have to "see what we can do" about the "gay lobby" operating in the bureaucracy, he said. "It is true, it is there," the report quotes him as saying.

In the days leading up to Pope Benedict XVI's resignation in February, the Italian media carried many un-sourced reports that gay Vatican clergymen had been working together to advance their personal interests, leaving the Holy See vulnerable to blackmail.

There were even suggestions that the situation had influenced Benedict's decision to resign.

Source: Monitor

At the time, the Vatican vigorously denied all the rumours.

pmwasyoke said:
Kuihukumu dini yoyote kwa sababu ya uovu ya muumini wake au kiongozi wake sio sahihi - Labda mtu athibitishe pasipo shaka kwamba dini inaagiza uovu huo.

Hakuna kitu kama hicho, Pope John Paul I alitaka kuruhusu ndoa kwa Makasisi hakukaa kwasababu ni kinyume na ahadi walizoapa. Kama huyu Pope Francis I amefanya hivyo basi hana muda mrefu wa kukalia kiti hicho.

njiwa · Jun 13, 2013

Mbona hii ilikuea inajulikana kitambo sana... Walikuwa wanajificha hawa walebirali ndani ya vatcan

Varbo · Jun 13, 2013

Katekisimu na Misale ya waumini pamoja na BIBLIA TAKATIFU vinatukataza wakatoliki na wakristo wote kushiriki vitendo vya ndoa nje ya ndoa yako!! Wanaofanya hayo ni wazinzi kwa dhambi zao na shetani wao...TUMSIFU YESU KRISTO...

Mwananchi · Jun 13, 2013

Ntonga said:
Katekisimu na Misale ya waumini pamoja na BIBLIA TAKATIFU vinatukataza wakatoliki na wakristo wote kushiriki vitendo vya ndoa nje ya ndoa yako!! Wanaofanya hayo ni wazinzi kwa dhambi zao na shetani wao...TUMSIFU YESU KRISTO...

Milele Amina> Jibu linatosha nyongeza ni ushabiki na umbea

Kifarutz · Jun 13, 2013

Kwa hili nawapongeza Vatcan, siku zote imekuwa ngumu kuwatambua gays..! Big up Vatcan

kahtaan · Jun 13, 2013

Bubu Msemaovyo said:
Hakuna kitu kama hicho, Pope John Paul I alitaka kuruhusu ndoa kwa Makasisi hakukaa kwasababu ni kinyume na ahadi walizoapa. Kama huyu Pope Francis I amefanya hivyo basi hana muda mrefu wa kukalia kiti hicho.

Maneno yako yangekuwa makini kama ungeliambatanisha na andiko linalo kataza uliberali ndani ya bible,

manake uingereza kuna Gay bishop na kanisa halijamfukuza kazi mpaka leo,
na ndoa za kina dada kwa dada, na kina kaka kwa kaka zinafungwa ndani ya makanisa uingereza kila siku,

viongozi wa makanisa USA waliokamatwa na kesi za kunajisi watoto wa kiume hazina idadi, na viongozi wa kanisa kuu kimya!

sasa wape andiko linalo kataza uchafu huo ili waache!

kahtaan · Jun 13, 2013

ByaseL said:
Pope Francis is reported to have acknowledged the existence of a "gay lobby" inside the Vatican.

He also said there was a "stream of corruption", according to reports in Catholic media.

He is said to have made the remarks during a private meeting with a group of Latin American Catholic clerics.

The clerics wrote up a report of the conversation that then appeared on the Chilean website Reflection and Liberation.

Previous rumours

According to the report, the Pope was extremely open as he discussed problems at the Vatican.

He is said to have told the Latin American delegation that there were good, holy men in the administration, but that there was also corruption.

The Vatican would have to "see what we can do" about the "gay lobby" operating in the bureaucracy, he said. "It is true, it is there," the report quotes him as saying.

In the days leading up to Pope Benedict XVI's resignation in February, the Italian media carried many un-sourced reports that gay Vatican clergymen had been working together to advance their personal interests, leaving the Holy See vulnerable to blackmail.

There were even suggestions that the situation had influenced Benedict's decision to resign.

Source: Monitor

At the time, the Vatican vigorously denied all the rumours.

Unfortunately this is a sad truth that people are using the name of God to commit an act of SODOMY,
UNTIL THE TRUE FOLLOWER OF JESUS STEP IN, THE REAL CHURCH OF JESUS WILL FAIL TO EXIST!

kahtaan · Jun 13, 2013

Ntonga said:
Katekisimu na Misale ya waumini pamoja na BIBLIA TAKATIFU vinatukataza wakatoliki na wakristo wote kushiriki vitendo vya ndoa nje ya ndoa yako!! Wanaofanya hayo ni wazinzi kwa dhambi zao na shetani wao...TUMSIFU YESU KRISTO...

Hapa kinachoo ongelewa sio uzinzi nje ya ndoa,! hapa ni kuhusu "gay lobby" ndani ya Vatican,
kwa maana ingine "uliberali unaofanyika ndani ya Vatican",

Hayo mambo ya sodoma na gomora ndani ya kanisa ndio msada hapa! Nomba wakristo wenye kumpenda Yesu walipigie kelele hili, kukata kata kona na badala ya kulikemea hili na kuanza kutukana waislamu kunaonyesha kuwa hili suala haliwasumbui,
Mungu usituadhibu wote kwa makosa ya wachache,
Ameen

kahtaan · Jun 13, 2013

Bigirita said:
Media need to sell.......thats all they need to be doing right now!
Sell shi.t and some more shi.t!

Bro! you could call that a sh..t but the truth remains the same!

If you love Jesus the way I do, You should condemn BUM BUM Business inside the biggest Church on Earth,
That's Vatican by the way!

kahtaan · Jun 13, 2013

pmwasyoke said:
Without forgetting that even some of angels turned bad and revolted against God, their creator. So there is always the bad alongside the good.

No angel revolted against God!
that's a lie,and fabrication stories against Angels, "they are pure" angels are commanded to do what God want, they have no options.
thank you

Varbo · Jun 13, 2013

kahtaan said:
Hapa kinachoo ongelewa sio uzinzi nje ya ndoa,! hapa ni kuhusu "gay lobby" ndani ya Vatican,
kwa maana ingine "uliberali unaofanyika ndani ya Vatican",

Hayo mambo ya sodoma na gomora ndani ya kanisa ndio msada hapa! Nomba wakristo wenye kumpenda Yesu walipigie kelele hili, kukata kata kona na badala ya kulikemea hili na kuanza kutukana waislamu kunaonyesha kuwa hili suala haliwasumbui,
Mungu usituadhibu wote kwa makosa ya wachache,
Ameen

usodoma ni uzinzi ule ule kama biblia inakataza ngono tu ya mwanaume na mwanamke itakua hio Haramu ya kinyume na maumbile? Mkristo yoyote sio katoliki tu mahala popote sio Vatican tu tunatakiwa kupinga hili kwa nguvu zote

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