Osama bin Laden conspiracy theory

Osama bin Laden conspiracy theory

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the legendary investigative journalist Seymour Hersh finally released a story that he has been rumored to have been working on for years: the truth about the killing of Osama bin Laden. According to Hersh's10,000-word story in the London Review of Books, the official history of bin Laden's death - in which the US tracked him to a compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan; killed him in a secret raid that infuriated Pakistan; and then buried him at sea - is a lie.


What Seymour Hersh says really happened to Osama bin Laden


The truth, Hersh says, is that Pakistani intelligence services captured bin Laden in 2006 and kept him locked up with support from Saudi Arabia, using him as leverage against al-Qaeda. In 2010, Pakistan agreed to sell bin Laden to the US for increased military aid and a "freer hand in Afghanistan." Rather than kill him or hand him over discreetly, Hersh says the Pakistanis insisted on staging an elaborate American "raid" with Pakistani support.
According to Hersh's story, Navy SEALs met no resistance at Abbottabad and were escorted by a Pakistani intelligence officer to bin Laden's bedroom, where they killed him. Bin Laden's body was "torn apart with rifle fire" and pieces of the corpse "tossed out over the Hindu Kush mountains" by Navy SEALs during the flight home (no reason is given for this action). There was no burial at sea because "there wouldn't have been much left of bin Laden to put into the sea in any case."
In this telling, the yearslong breakdown in US-Pakistan relations, which had enormous ramifications for both Pakistan and the war in Afghanistan, was all staged to divert attention from the truth of bin Laden's killing. The treasure trove of intelligence secured from bin Laden's compound, Hersh adds, was manufactured to provide evidence after the fact.

What is the proof?

The evidence for all this is Hersh's conversations with two people: Asad Durrani, who ran Pakistan's military intelligence service from 1990 to 1992, and "a retired senior intelligence official who was knowledgeable about the initial intelligence about bin Laden's presence in Abbottabad." Read that line again: knowledgeable about the initial intelligence. Not exactly a key player in this drama, and anonymous at that.
Hersh produces no supporting documents or proof, nor is the authority of either source established. We are given no reason to believe that either Durrani or the "knowledgeable official" would have even second- or thirdhand knowledge of what occurred, yet their word is treated as gospel. His other two sources are anonymous "consultants" who are vaguely described as insiders.
Beyond that, Hersh's proof is that he finds the official story of the Osama bin Laden raid to be unconvincing. And he points out that in the first days after the raid, the administration released details that cast bin Laden in a negative light - saying he tried to use one of his wives as a shield, for example - that it later walked back. But raising questions about the official story is not the same as proving a spectacular international conspiracy.
If that seems like worryingly little evidence for a story that accuses hundreds of people across three governments of staging a massive international hoax that has gone on for years, then you are not alone.

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Perhaps the most concerning problem with Hersh's story is not the sourcing but rather the internal contradictions in the narrative he constructs.
Most blatant, Hersh's entire narrative turns on a secret deal, in which the US promised Pakistan increased military aid and a "freer hand in Afghanistan." In fact, the exact opposite of this occurred, with US military aid dropping and US-Pakistan cooperation in Afghanistan plummeting as both sides feuded bitterly for years after the raid.
Hersh explains this seemingly fatal contradiction by suggesting the deal fell apart due to miscommunication between the Americans and Pakistanis. But it's strange to argue that the dozens of officials on both sides would be competent enough to secretly plan and execute a massive international ruse, and then to uphold their conspiracy for years after the fact, but would not be competent enough to get on the same page about aid delivery.
And there are more contradictions. Why, for example, would the Pakistanis insist on a fake raid that would humiliate their country and the very military and intelligence leaders who supposedly instigated it?
A simpler question: why would Pakistan bother with the ostentatious fake raid at all, when anyone can imagine a dozen simpler, lower-risk, lower-cost ways to do this?
Why not just kill bin Laden, drive his body across the border into Afghanistan, and drop him off with the Americans? Or why not put him in a hut somewhere in Waziristan, blow it up with an F-16, pretend it was a US drone strike, and tell the Americans to go collect the body? (Indeed, when I first heard about Hersh's bin Laden story a few years ago from a New Yorker editor - the magazine, the editor said, had rejected it repeatedly, to the point of creating bad blood between Hersh and editor-in-chief David Remnick - this was the version Hersh was said to favor.)
"helping Obama boost US-Pakistan relations seems like an unusual hobby for an al-Qaeda leader"

sources: http://www.vox.com/2015/5/11/8584473/seymour-hersh-osama-bin-laden



 
Kwa hiyo Neptune spear ilikua mbwembwe tu ...yote yanawezekana maana Pakistan ndio kuna shirika la kijasusi Matata duniani ..nashangaa walishindwa vipi kushtukia hiyo operation Neptune spear
 
Kwa hiyo Neptune spear ilikua mbwembwe tu ...yote yanawezekana maana Pakistan ndio kuna shirika la kijasusi Matata duniani ..nashangaa walishindwa vipi kushtukia hiyo operation Neptune spear

Pia kuna mlima wa maswali ambayo huyu mwandishi hana majibu. Kiasi kwamba pengine Pakistan imekaa kimya kuepusha heshima yake kushuka.
Na kwa namna moja inajaribu kunufaika na hii conspiracy.
 
Pia kuna mlima wa maswali ambayo huyu mwandishi hana majibu. Kiasi kwamba pengine Pakistan imekaa kimya kuepusha heshima yake kushuka.
Na kwa namna moja inajaribu kunufaika na hii conspiracy.

Lazima Pakistan ionekane inanufaika na hii conspiracy ndio maana wako kimya kwa sababu Kama ni kweli marekani walifanikiwa kufika Abbottabad bila msaada wa Pakistan then inadhihirisha ni kiasi gani vyombo vyao vya usalama havina nguvu na hiyo tu inatosha kuidhalilisha Pakistan na wananchi wake ..ila kwa upande mwingine sijui Islamic nations zita react vipi kwa Pakistan Kama kweli wao ndio walimkamata Osama na baadae kufikia makubaliano ya kumuuza kwa wamarekani
Anyway hizi theories sio za kutilia maanani Sana
 
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh made the shock allegations, claiming that there was no firefight at the Pakistani compoundShare Getty / ReutersOsama bin Laden: Did Obama lie over the terror chief's death?The US government lied to the world about how Osama bin Laden was killed, skewing the facts so Obama could claim political glory, an investigative journalist has claimed.It is alleged that the Pakistani government had been holding the 9/11 mastermind in his Abbottabad compound - located in a residential area known to be vastly populated by military officials - for years.The CIA learned of his location after a high-ranking intelligence officer in the country tipped off the US in the hope of claiming a $25 million bounty, the report claims.In his investigation, Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh also alleges that the Obama administration negotiated with the Pakistani government and its intelligence officials from the ISI ahead of the raid, but then later claimed it was a secret infiltration mission.Hersh, citing an unnamed source, says that Pakistani intelligence services cut the power to bin Laden's compound ahead of the raid to aid the SEAL team in avoiding local military intervention.Seymour Hersh: The journalist published the allegations this weekendThere was no firefight, the report claims, and the only bullets fired were those that killed the terror chief.Barrack Obama concealed the truth about the raid one year before an election in a bid to boost his administration's popularity, it is claimed.The article, published in the London Review of Books, says that bin Laden was also not buried at sea as previously claimed, and that he was in fact buried in Afghanistan.Hersh says that Obama's speech informing the American people about the sucsessful raid was "put together in a rush".He added: "This series of self-serving and inaccurate statements would create chaos in the weeks following.Bin Laden killed"[Pakistani troops] were under orders to leave as soon as they heard the rotors of the US helicopters."The town was dark: the electricity supply had been cut off on the orders of the ISI hours before the raid began."In the article he quotes an anonymous source as saying: "The fact that there was an agreement with the Pakistanis and no contingency analysis of what was to be disclosed if something went wrong – that wasn’t even discussed."The US claimed to have found important documents at the compound - something Hersh's source disputes. VIEW GALLERY The source added: "The White House had to give the impression that bin Laden was still operationally important."Otherwise, why kill him?"A cover story was created – that there was a network of couriers coming and going with memory sticks and instructions. All to show that bin Laden remained important."The SEALS should have expected the political grandstanding. It’s irresistible to a politician. Bin Laden became a working asset"A series of "lies, misstatements and betrayals" were concocted, the source claims - which have had an inevitable backlash.They added: "We’ve had a four-year lapse in co-operation. It’s taken that long for the Pakistanis to trust us again in the military-to-military counterterrorism relationship – while terrorism was rising all over the world.One World Trade Center: The new building stands tall above other nearby buildings in New York"They felt Obama sold them down the river."They’re just now coming back because the threat from ISIS, which is now showing up there."An unnamed Special Operations Command consultant, also quoted by Hersh in the article, says that the assasination of bin Laden was "political theatre designed to burnish Obama’s military credentials".The White House is yet to comment on the claims.Rob O'Neill, a former SEAL who claimed to have fired the fatal shot that hit bin Laden in the forehead in Pakistan three years ago, spoke out about the raid last year.Robert O'Neill: The former SEAL claims to have killed bin LadenNow a motivational speaker, he told CNN: "When I'm out speaking, I never mention the bin Laden mission."But any time anyone says, 'You know my brother died at Cantor Fitzgerald', one thing I tell them is, 'All right, Osama bin Laden died like a p***y. That's all I'm telling you. Just so you know.""He died afraid. And he knew that we were there to kill him."
 
Taarifa hii nimeiona asubuhi hii kwenye mitandao mingi ya hapa usa na kuna baadhi ya watu hapa usa wanasema "THIS BLACK AFRICAN LIED US to claim glory for himself"
Pia IKULU imekanusha naarifa za hiyo mwandishi.
 
Pia kuna mlima wa maswali ambayo huyu mwandishi hana majibu. Kiasi kwamba pengine Pakistan imekaa kimya kuepusha heshima yake kushuka.
Na kwa namna moja inajaribu kunufaika na hii conspiracy.
 
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HERSH: The White House is lying about the killing of Osama bin Laden

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh has a startling new article claiming the White House fed the public lie after lie about how the US killed Osama bin Laden in May 2011.

The article in the London Review of Books purports to be an "alternative history of the war on terror," and it relies largely on a single unnamed source to question President Barack Obama's narrative about the death of the man behind the 9/11 attacks.

That narrative from the president claimed bin Laden was killed in a firefight with US forces and that Pakistani officials weren't told about the raid in advance.

While Obama touted bin Laden's killing in a Pakistani compound as an "all-American affair" as Hersh puts it, US officials got assistance from upper-level Pakistani officials, according to Hersh. Moreover, he writes, bin Laden wasn't "hiding" in Pakistan when Navy Seals found him as the US government claimed.


Reuters
Rather, Hersh alleges, Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) was holding bin Laden as a prisoner. A former senior Pakistani intelligence officer tipped the US off about bin Laden's whereabouts in exchange for $25 million, Hersh writes in his article, which has attracted wide attention in just a few hours.

Hersh says his main source inside the US is an unnamed senior intelligence official with knowledge about the raid that killed bin Laden. Hersh also says he got corroborating information from two longtime consultants to Special Operations Command in the US and that he spoke to sources "inside Pakistan."

Here are the main takeaways:

  • The White House's "most blatant" lie was that Pakistan's two most senior military officials were never informed of the mission, Hersh says.
  • While US officials say they found bin Laden by tracking his trusted courier, Hersh says they discovered his whereabouts from a former Pakistani intelligence officer who wanted the $25 million reward the US was offering.
  • The government claimed bin Laden was hiding out, but Hersh says the Pakistani intelligence agency had actually been holding him captive since 2006 to use him as leverage against Taliban and Al Qaeda activities in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
  • While the White House has said it would have taken bin Laden alive if it could have and that he was killed in a firefight, Hersh says that wasn't the case. "There was no firefight as they moved into the compound; the ISI guards had gone," Hersh wrote.
  • The article also takes issue with the White House's claim that bin Laden was buried at sea in a service that followed Islamic practices. "The remains, including his head, which had only a few bullet holes in it, were thrown into a body bag and, during the helicopter flight back to Jalalabad, some body parts were tossed out over the Hindu Kush mountains - or so the Seals claimed," Hersh reported, citing his senior US intelligence official.

Hersh says the White House did not respond to his requests for comment. Given that the US side of the story is based primarily on a single anonymous source, it should obviously be viewed with skepticism.

Read more: businessinsider.com
 
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