Officials panic as Tanzania sways Museveni on SGR

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By FREDERIC MUSISI


Kampala.

President Museveni will this week meet officials from the Works and Finance ministries to discuss progress on the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) and plans he conceived during a recent visit to Tanzania, Daily Monitor has learnt.

The President will expect the officials to table a comparative cost analysis of Uganda’s SGR in relation to Kenya and Tanzania’s costs.
The officials will also brief him on the infrastructure projects, particularly the ports at Bukasa, Port Bell and Jinja that are meant to connect Uganda to the Southern Corridor via Musoma Port on Lake Victoria to Tanga Port at the Indian Ocean, and the Central Corridor via Mwanza/Bukoba ports (on L. Victoria) to Dar es Salaam Port.
Sources say the officials were thrown into panic after Mr Museveni was told in Tanzania that the country’s planned SGR line was to cost significantly lower per kilometer than Uganda’s.

Works Minister Monica Azuba, however, insisted that the plans to work with Kenya on the SGR were ‘still on course’ although the government was ‘exploring alternatives’.

Ms Azuba said: “We are still working with Kenya. The President only expressed concern over the delay in extending the line from Nairobi to Malaba to Kampala. The Tanzanians also claimed they got theirs [railway] cheaper; and we are looking into that.”

Cost of rails
Every kilometer of rail, Mr Museveni was reportedly told, will cost Tanzania $1.5m (Uganda Shs5.6b), while Uganda’s is set to cost $7.3m (Shs25b) per kilometer.

The contract for the first phase of Uganda’s SGR to link Kampala and Malaba on the border with Kenya at a cost of $2.8b (Shs8t) was awarded to China Harbour Engineering Corporation (CHEC).
According to available cost projections, Uganda will buy a ton of cement at $180 (approx. Shs600,000) and steel at $700 (Shs2.47m), while Tanzania will spend $100 (Shs300,000) and $680 (Shs2.4m) on cement and steel, respectively.

Following the meeting with the President, Daily Monitor has learnt, officials travelled to Tanzania on a benchmarking mission, the results of which are expected to be tabled to the President this week.

President Museveni’s interest in the Tanzania route was whetted by the proposal by Tanzania to prioritise the 1,219km SGR line from Dar es Salaam to Mwanza port on Lake Victoria the Ugandan border, the sources said.

Inland water transport on Lake Victoria across ports Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania broke down almost a decade now, but by developing inland ports in Uganda, it can be revived. There has recently been talk of upgrading Port Bell and developing Bukasa ports in Kampala.

There are no concrete plans yet about when the construction of the ports could begin and financing plans for the ports are not as advanced as those for the SGR line between Kampala to Malaba.
The SGR construction is tentatively set to begin this year with the view of linking to the Kenya SGR to the Indian coast. The line from Mombasa Port to Nairobi is already complete, and Kenya is expected to embark on the line westwards to Malaba at about the same time Uganda’s could kick off.

But with the financing details for the SGR still not yet concretised between Uganda and China, and in light of a of seemingly cheaper alternative of just developing inland ports and banking on Tanzania’s SGR in the short and medium term, Mr Museveni’s meeting with the officials could come up with a landmark decision
Last year, Uganda snubbed Kenya and opted for the Tanzania route for the construction of the planned crude oil export pipeline.


MY TAKE:
Magufuli sio mtu wa mchezo mchezo,mwezi huu ndio kwaaanza tunaweka jiwe la msingi la ujenzi wa SGR yetu kwa fedha zetu na tayari tumeshaanza kumkimbiza mtu mchakamchaka,Kenya should learn now that NOTHING will come easier on their way kipindi hiki kama ilivyozoeleka.Naona M7 ameshaonyeshwa njia rahisi badala ya kujenga SGR kutokea Kampala kwenda Malaba kwa $2.8bn ni afadhali kuanza kujenga kuelekea Kasese na Mbarara(hapa atapiga ndege wanne kwa jiwe moja i.e Rwanda,Congo,Tanzania na Burundi)na ambapo amestushwa kuwa hizo hela zake zinatosha kabisa pamoja na kuzijenga bandari zake zote.

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By FREDERIC MUSISI


Kampala.

President Museveni will this week meet officials from the Works and Finance ministries to discuss progress on the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) and plans he conceived during a recent visit to Tanzania, Daily Monitor has learnt.

The President will expect the officials to table a comparative cost analysis of Uganda’s SGR in relation to Kenya and Tanzania’s costs.
The officials will also brief him on the infrastructure projects, particularly the ports at Bukasa, Port Bell and Jinja that are meant to connect Uganda to the Southern Corridor via Musoma Port on Lake Victoria to Tanga Port at the Indian Ocean, and the Central Corridor via Mwanza/Bukoba ports (on L. Victoria) to Dar es Salaam Port.
Sources say the officials were thrown into panic after Mr Museveni was told in Tanzania that the country’s planned SGR line was to cost significantly lower per kilometer than Uganda’s.

Works Minister Monica Azuba, however, insisted that the plans to work with Kenya on the SGR were ‘still on course’ although the government was ‘exploring alternatives’.

Ms Azuba said: “We are still working with Kenya. The President only expressed concern over the delay in extending the line from Nairobi to Malaba to Kampala. The Tanzanians also claimed they got theirs [railway] cheaper; and we are looking into that.”

Cost of rails
Every kilometer of rail, Mr Museveni was reportedly told, will cost Tanzania $1.5m (Uganda Shs5.6b), while Uganda’s is set to cost $7.3m (Shs25b) per kilometer.

The contract for the first phase of Uganda’s SGR to link Kampala and Malaba on the border with Kenya at a cost of $2.8b (Shs8t) was awarded to China Harbour Engineering Corporation (CHEC).
According to available cost projections, Uganda will buy a ton of cement at $180 (approx. Shs600,000) and steel at $700 (Shs2.47m), while Tanzania will spend $100 (Shs300,000) and $680 (Shs2.4m) on cement and steel, respectively.

Following the meeting with the President, Daily Monitor has learnt, officials travelled to Tanzania on a benchmarking mission, the results of which are expected to be tabled to the President this week.

President Museveni’s interest in the Tanzania route was whetted by the proposal by Tanzania to prioritise the 1,219km SGR line from Dar es Salaam to Mwanza port on Lake Victoria the Ugandan border, the sources said.

Inland water transport on Lake Victoria across ports Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania broke down almost a decade now, but by developing inland ports in Uganda, it can be revived. There has recently been talk of upgrading Port Bell and developing Bukasa ports in Kampala.

There are no concrete plans yet about when the construction of the ports could begin and financing plans for the ports are not as advanced as those for the SGR line between Kampala to Malaba.
The SGR construction is tentatively set to begin this year with the view of linking to the Kenya SGR to the Indian coast. The line from Mombasa Port to Nairobi is already complete, and Kenya is expected to embark on the line westwards to Malaba at about the same time Uganda’s could kick off.

But with the financing details for the SGR still not yet concretised between Uganda and China, and in light of a of seemingly cheaper alternative of just developing inland ports and banking on Tanzania’s SGR in the short and medium term, Mr Museveni’s meeting with the officials could come up with a landmark decision
Last year, Uganda snubbed Kenya and opted for the Tanzania route for the construction of the planned crude oil export pipeline.


MY TAKE:
Magufuli sio mtu wa mchezo mchezo,mwezi huu ndio kwaaanza tunaweka jiwe la msingi la ujenzi wa SGR yetu kwa fedha zetu na tayari tumeshaanza kumkimbiza mtu mchakamchaka,Kenya should learn now that NOTHING will come easier on their way kipindi hiki kama ilivyozoeleka.Naona M7 ameshaonyeshwa njia rahisi badala ya kujenga SGR kutokea Kampala kwenda Malaba kwa $2.8bn ni afadhali kuanza kujenga kuelekea Kasese na Mbarara(hapa atapiga ndege wanne kwa jiwe moja i.e Rwanda,Congo,Tanzania na Burundi)na ambapo amestushwa kuwa hizo hela zake zinatosha kabisa pamoja na kuzijenga bandari zake zote.

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Sawa ..lakini atleast kenya has already laid its rail na inaanza opperations june ...
 
Hii habari haikutakiwa ivuje mapema hivi,ilitakiwa michakato yote ikamilike ndipo habari ziwe wazi,hapa naona kuna watu wataanza safari za Kampala ghafla na wakijichanganya wakija tena DSM kama walivyokuja kutupeleleza kipindi kile cha bomba la mafuta tutawaweka mahabusu tena.
 
Oil pipeline - gone
Sgr -gone
Amina chairman- gone

In matters geo politics uhuru is an amateur and at this rate he will become a very frustrated man!
But seems to me like kamwana is doing a realy good job of incopetence and other presidents regionaly are taking note.
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Oil pipeline - gone
Sgr -gone
Amina chairman- gone

In matters geo politics uhuru is an amateur and at this rate he will become a very frustrated man!
But seems to me like kamwana is doing a realy good job of incopetence and other presidents regionaly are taking note.
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wewe wacha upuuzi...wewe ni mkenya wa aina gani? where is ur sense of national pride? I also disapprove many elements of the Jubilee govt but in the presence of Tanzanians you cannot dare to show this kind of treachery....they say don't pour your maize in the midst of chicken....dont air your dirty laundry in the presence of your enemies...whcih brings me to my second point...ur saying that the SGR deal is gone? how did you come to this conclusion? the SGR project can never go...MoUs were signed and if M7 dropped the kenyan SGR then that would be a diplomatic disaster for Uganda and kenya...this can even cause a dispute or war....EAC can die.....it would be seen as betrayal... there is a lot at stake for Uganda if they did this and they won't...besides, Uganda has mmore to gain from economic giant of EA than from tanzania...Mombasa port is more efficient....infrastructure is better.....there is more wealth in kenya for Ugandan companies to tap into...they are not stupid
 
wewe wacha upuuzi...wewe ni mkenya wa aina gani? where is ur sense of national pride? I also disapprove many elements of the Jubilee govt but in the presence of Tanzanians you cannot dare to show this kind of treachery....they say don't pour your maize in the midst of chicken....dont air your dirty laundry in the presence of your enemies...whcih brings me to my second point...ur saying that the SGR deal is gone? how did you come to this conclusion? the SGR project can never go...MoUs were signed and if M7 dropped the kenyan SGR then that would be a diplomatic disaster for Uganda and kenya...this can even cause a dispute or war....EAC can die.....it would be seen as betrayal... there is a lot at stake for Uganda if they did this....
Sasa unamyima mwenzako uhuru wa kuongea. Hapa wewe ndiye unajiaibisha. Kwanini usimfuate PM.
 
Sasa unamyima mwenzako uhuru wa kuongea. Hapa wewe ndiye unajiaibisha. Kwanini usimfuate PM.
no matter how much your house is disorganized, you can never let your enemies know it....thats why struggling marriage couples force fake smiles in the presence of neighbors..alafu kama mnangoja SGR ikwame hapo mtaambulia patupu...Kampala is nearer Mombasa than Tanzanian ports...plus there is the South Sudan route, Uganda would want to gain from that....most importantly, the kenyan SGR is already on track and there is an MoU that binds UG and KE together in this project....if it were to be broken, there would be grave consequences
 
Kwahiyo Tanzania is your enemy? Mbona hueleweki?
kwani wewe zumbukuku? jambo simple kama hili bado huelewi....we are neighbors and friends but we are still rivals... we cannot deny it.... being the only countries in eac with ocean access, we compete to win business from our landlocked neighbors
 
kwani wewe zumbukuku? jambo simple kama hili bado huelewi....we are neighbors and friends but we are still rivals... we cannot deny it.... being the only countries in eac with ocean access, we compete to win business from our landlocked neighbors
Tanzania is your enemy or competitor?
Maana wewe ndugu umeongelea kuhusu enemy nataka unijibu swali langu usilikimbie? Maana unasema sisi Tanzania ni enemy wa kenya. Nataka uniambie kivipi? Naona umeanze ku expose ya moyoni mwako.
 
Tanzania is your enemy or competitor?
Maana wewe ndugu umeongelea kuhusu enemy nataka unijibi swali langu usilikimbie? Maana unasema sisi Tanzania ni enemy wa kenya. Nataka uniambie kivipi?
Tanzania is not an enemy of Kenya....swali lako ndio hilo nimelijibu....on the contrary, we are competitors as you say...but competition can get ugly sometimes...blood can be drawn....
 
Hapa wakenya wataendelea kukodoa sana. Haya mambo yanaanza taratibu. Hili swala la ku sign EPA lita wa cost sana wakenya.

one thing that need to be understood here is, Kenya will build the SGR to Kisumu and Malaba. If Uganda joins well and good, if it doesn't well and good. Having it go all the way to Uganda and Rwanda is just an added advantage, but still it will be important to us, just as the pipeline which we will built with or without Uganda

Secondly, i doubt if Uganda will change its mind, as it has penned down the construction contract and the contractor is already on ground.

In case they do, it will cost them billions in compensation, it will also cost them time and end up not playing the rail just like Tanzania which is bent on signing and resigning contracts with nothing on the ground for years. Tanzania is trying to bring Uganda to its level of non development.

Someone can imagine how long it will take for a rail to be built from Dar to Uganda, that will be not less than ten years to come, where will Kenya be
 
Oil pipeline - gone
Sgr -gone
Amina chairman- gone

In matters geo politics uhuru is an amateur and at this rate he will become a very frustrated man!
But seems to me like kamwana is doing a realy good job of incopetence and other presidents regionaly are taking note.
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Why bring Uhuru in here?? Did you read the article?? The contention is about 25m/km against 5m/km!!? That was signed between Uganda and the financier independently, why bring in Uhuru?? Uhuru doesn't make decisions about Uganda, he is busy building Kenya irrespective. I wonder why some people are blinded by opposition politics
 
no matter how much your house is disorganized, you can never let your enemies know it....thats why struggling marriage couples force fake smiles in the presence of neighbors..alafu kama mnangoja SGR ikwame hapo mtaambulia patupu...Kampala is nearer Mombasa than Tanzanian ports...plus there is the South Sudan route, Uganda would want to gain from that....most importantly, the kenyan SGR is already on track and there is an MoU that binds UG and KE together in this project....if it were to be broken, there would be grave consequences

MoU ndio nini wewe??umesahau kwamba hata hiyo oil pipeline mlikuwa mmeshasign hiyo MoU na bado M7 akabadilisha mawazo?alafu kusema kwamba itakuwa disaster hilo halitakaa litokee na M7 anajua vizuri sana.Uganda ni nchi huru na inayo mamlaka rasmi ya kuamua kile inachokiona ni sahihi bila kuingiliwa na nchi yoyote,by the way kama mtamsumbua kwaajili ya hiyo bandari ya Mombasa sisi tupo kwaajili yake na bandari ya Tanga itakuwa ya kwake hadi hapo akili za Jubilee zitakapokaa sawa.
 
one thing that need to be understood here is, Kenya will build the SGR to Kisumu and Malaba. If Uganda joins well and good, if it doesn't well and good. Having it go all the way to Uganda and Rwanda is just an added advantage, but still it will be important to us, just as the pipeline which we will built with or without Uganda

Secondly, i doubt if Uganda will change its mind, as it has penned down the construction contract and the contractor is already on ground.

In case they do, it will cost them billions in compensation, it will also cost them time and end up not playing the rail just like Tanzania which is bent on signing and resigning contracts with nothing on the ground for years. Tanzania is trying to bring Uganda to its level of non development.

Someone can imagine how long it will take for a rail to be built from Dar to Uganda, that will be not less than ten years to come, where will Kenya be


Nani kakudanganya kuwa contractor yupo site wakati hata ardhi bado haijalipiwa fidia?alafu ujue kwamba huko Uganda kabla ya huyu contractor tayari kulikuwa na mkandarasi mwingine anayeitwa China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation walikuwa wamesainiana naye mkataba na wakampiga chini vilevile na kumpa huyu wa sasa (CHEC),hata hivyo Waafrika tunatakiwa tuamke sasa hivi,haya mambo ya kulazimishana China apewe tender kwasababu tu Exim(China)ndio wanatoa mkopo hayana maana kwakuwa mwisho wa siku bei wanayotupiga ni zaidi ya mara tatu na bado riba na mwisho wa siku hela yote inarudi kwao.Uganda tayari walishatenga 15% ya gharama za mradi kutoka kwenye vyanzo vyao vya mapato,sasa wanashindwa nini kutumia kiasi hicho kumtamfuta mkandarasi kwa fair competition na kumpa tender aanze taratibu?

Siasa za Kenya za kuharakisha mambo ili muibe na muibiwe vizuri sio za kuigwa na member wengine wa EAC,ni afadhali kuchelewa lakini tupate kitu kinacholingana na malipo yetu.By the way jaribu kutumia akili kidogo tu:kama sisi tunajenga 1km kwa $1.5m na wao wameambiwa ni 1km kwa $7.3m ni kwanini wasifikirie kurudi kwenye drawing board?alafu wanaambiwa tani moja ya cement watauziwa kwa $180 wakati sisi ni $100!!hapo si inabidi M7 akune kichwa vizuri?
 
This is the second time SGR is being touted as having gone south. Last time i checked a joint committee of Kenyans and Ugandans had gone to China to seek funding
 
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