Marekani yaanza kuichoka Israel

[Wickama]

Walikubali kwa maneno angalia vitendo. We mwanaume akisema anakupenda hata km kwa vitendo anachepuka bado utashikiria kuwa anakupenda?
Acha ushabiki MUNGU hadhihakiwi.

sawa bwana Mzee, kisha Mungu aliagiza kipi kuhusu Wapalestina wanaoishi huko? au hakuwaumba?

 

[Wickama]

Israel kwa sasa imebaki na US tu...nae akimtema basi kaisha...EU wameshamchoka...kuna lecture niliudhuria juzi kati ya jamaa mmoja alikuwa na moja kati ya vyeo vya juu sana UN (keshastaafu maana ana miaka 80 sasa) aliulizwa swali kuhusu Israel na failure ya UN ku solve huu mgogoro...akasema tatizo ni US tu pamoja na Evangelicals...hapo sikumuelewa hao Evangelicals wanakujaje... labda mnaojua historia ya dini mtuelimishe...maana sikupata muda wa kumuuliza afafanue...

Mkuu, hii article huenda ikajibu unauliza

Why Evangelical Support for Israel is a Good Thing

By Abraham H. Foxman
National Director of the Anti-Defamation League
It has been said time and again that Israel is today facing the greatest crisis in years. It has also been noted that a key factor that makes Israel's situation less desperate than it might be is the fact that the United States, the world's superpower, stands up -- many times alone -- on behalf of an embattled Israel.
These realities should make American Jews highly appreciative of the incredible support that the State of Israel gets from a significant group of Americans -- the Evangelical Christian Right. In many ways, the Christian Right stands out as the most consistently supportive group of Israel in America.
In the Congress, support for Israel is strong on both sides of the aisle, among liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans. Most importantly, the issue has not been seen as one reflecting the views of a parochial lobbying group provoking significant support but also significant opposition. Rather, it is seen as above partisan politics.
Having said that, there is no doubt that Evangelical members are notably aggressive in their support, proposing resolutions and speaking out forcefully. This is especially noteworthy during the current Administration, as they are conveying their sentiments to a President who shares many of their religious and social perspectives.
Similarly, polls of American public opinion reveal, in marked contrast to similar polls in Europe, that the American people support Israel over the Palestinians by a significant margin. A key element in these consistent findings in many polls ever since the violence broke out almost 2 years ago -- is the overwhelming support for Israel among individuals calling themselves Evangelical.
On many public occasions, including at rallies and meetings, on TV and radio appearances, Evangelicals have become regulars, a pro-Israel presence alongside the Jewish community. While such support is evident from other significant parts of the body politic, support from Evangelicals is especially consistent and unreserved.
Still, there continues to be a reluctance in certain sections of the American Jewish community to welcome or encourage Evangelical support. Several factors come into play. Many mainstream American Jewish organizations have major disagreements with Evangelicals on many domestic issues -- Church - State separation, abortion, and attitudes towards gays.
ADL and other Jewish organizations have made clear in its dealings with Evangelicals that we will continue to be forceful advocates for our very different perspective on these issues before the American people, despite Evangelical support for Israel. Importantly, at no point have we heard them place any conditions on their support. There is no quid pro quo. At no point have we had to choose between our fundamental principals concerning the role of religion in America and our appreciation for their standing with Israel.
Some say that Evangelicals are behind Israel for the wrong reasons: they see Israel's existence as a necessary precursor for Armageddon and the second coming of Christ, visions which do not include a place for Jews. These religious beliefs, however, speak to an unknown future (indeed one that Jews do not envision). Meanwhile, the very real present is one in which Evangelical leaders are educating their publics about the importance of Israel's existence, security and well-being, that no amount of public relations and advertising budgets could buy.
Finally, it is said that Evangelicals have a high degree of anti-Semitism in their communities. There is no doubt that there is a history of anti-Semitism among Evangelicals, based on an old theology that Jews deserve punishment because they rejected Jesus. Today, that perspective has been superceded by the new special role of the Jews in the modern State of Israel. Indeed, Evangelical leaders such as Ralph Reed have apologized for anti-Semitism in the past and have eloquently spoken to their communities about rejecting any element of anti-Semitism.
ADL polls on anti-Semitism in America show no greater inclination of Evangelical Christians to harbor hateful views of Jews than other groups in American society. As to the one area of legitimate concern -- efforts to proselytize Jews that continues among some Evangelical ministers -- ADL and others have vigorously denounced such efforts whenever they surface.
In sum, American Jews should not be apologetic or defensive about cultivating Evangelical support for Israel. The need for support by an Israel under siege is great. Fortunately, Evangelical support is overwhelming, consistent, and unconditional. And the fears that such support will undermine our impact on other concerns that American Jews have are overblown, since we will continue, to articulate in forceful ways our significant disagreements on social issues.

Source: Evangelical Support for Israel is a Good Thing

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[Nonda]

Kilaza kweli wewe, eti nchi ya ahadi, ahadi yao waliambiwa wauwe watoto, wanawake, na watu wasio kuwa na hatia wala silaha ndio waikomboe nchi ya ahadi? Hiyo pesa ya nchi huru ya Palestina mwaka 1927 wakati huo Israel ilikuwa wapi?

Mtu ingine inasoma na haifahamu. Usiwe unakurupuka.

Wewe huoni Ahadi wanaitimiza katika hiyo video?

Kama unaweza kufungua hizo links soma utapata maarifa zaidi.

Wakati huo 1927 Israel ilikuwa ni Nchi ya Ahadi. na sawa imekuwa Nchi ya Zawadi. UN na Us na Mataifa ya Ulaya yaliwachoka wayahudi wa kujibambikia na matokeo yake ni kuwapa hiyo Ardhi ya watu kwa wazayuni.

 

[Nonda]

Nchi ya ahadi. We huwezi kupingana na ahadi za MUNGU wa kweli. Yaliyokwenye bible lazima yote yatimie ikiwamo jurudisha ardhi yote kwa waisrael

Link Nchi hii ya ahadi ilitaka kuunda katika maeneo mengi.

Link BBC News - The Jews of Arabia

 

[stata mzuka]

Hapa ndipo utawaona mayahudi wa KIHA wanavyotoka povu cc@kahtaan

 

[mbwewe]

Nchi ya ahadi. We huwezi kupingana na ahadi za MUNGU wa kweli. Yaliyokwenye bible lazima yote yatimie ikiwamo jurudisha ardhi yote kwa waisrael

ningekuelewa km nchi ya ahadi km ingekuwa na wakristo lkn ni kinyume nchi ni ya wayahudi na hpo ndyo kuna mkanganyiko

 

[chambonga]

nasikitika kuona watu wanaojiita wa mungu kushabikia mauji ya binadamu wengine! siku zinahesabika kwa israel kwani mataifa ya ulaya likiwamo moja la scandnavia na juzi tu ireland huku france na spain wakiwa njiani kutambua uwepo wa taifa la wapalestina, hii ni dalili ambayo siyo nzuri kwa israel na inaonyesha ni jinsi gani watu wameanza kuwachoka! ni watu ambao wanajiona kuwa ni superior! hawaambiwi lolote na yeyote walasikia na hii inatokana na makosa yetu ya kuwaabudu hawa jamaa! nilichoka sana baada ya kusikia kuwa israeli haiwezi kuwa na raia ambae siyo myahudi toka siku hiyo nikajielewa nilipo

 

[Punjab Singh]

Nchi ya ahadi. We huwezi kupingana na ahadi za MUNGU wa kweli. Yaliyokwenye bible lazima yote yatimie ikiwamo jurudisha ardhi yote kwa waisrael

In America it is The KKK White Supremacist hate Jews due to economical strength but the Judeo-Evangelicans Republicans Tea Party Neo- Conservatives although they support Jews through ignorance and hate Blacks due to racism yet here are people who follows their Gospel call of Crusade. Now read what their Brothers in Arms are advocating:

The Truth About Talmud
Talmudic Doctrine: Non-Jews are not Human

The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human animals, and specifically dehumanises gentiles as not being descendants of Adam. We will now list some of the Talmud passages which relate to this topic:

"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts."
Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honour the the dog more than the non-Jew."
Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30


"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form."
Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855

"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal."
Coschen hamischpat 405

"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs."
Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b

"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human."
Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b

"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog."
Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b

"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died"."
Jore dea 377, 1

"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals."
Talmud Sanhedrin 74b

"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile."
Sepher ikkarim III c 25

"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah."
Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands."
Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b

"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God."
Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772
How does a Jew prepare for his crime?

Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.
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Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.
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O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean" the wages owed him for work.
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Jews Have Superior Legal Status

Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
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Jews May Steal from Non-Jews

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen" it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."
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Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean", there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.


Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."
Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges" to circumvent a Gentile.
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Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.


Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
Insults Against Blessed Mary

Sanhedrin 106a . Says Mary- was a -----: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.
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Horrible Blasphemy Against Jesus Christ

Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is being boiled in "hot excrement."

Sanhedrin 43a. Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu (Jesus) was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?"

 

[nyumba kubwa]

Nimeelewa...thanks...ingawa inabidi nitafute maana nyingine za concepts nyingi mpya zilizotumika kwenye hiyo article...
Mimi kwanza hata siwajui hao Evangelical ndio kina nani? Walokole?

Mkuu, hii article huenda ikajibu unauliza




Source: Evangelical Support for Israel is a Good Thing

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[Wickama]

Nimeelewa...thanks...ingawa inabidi nitafute maana nyingine za concepts nyingi mpya zilizotumika kwenye hiyo article...
Mimi kwanza hata siwajui hao Evangelical ndio kina nani? Walokole?

unaweza kusema hivyo, ni wanadini wahafidhina

 

[AlP0L0]

Walikubali kwa maneno angalia vitendo. We mwanaume akisema anakupenda hata km kwa vitendo anachepuka bado utashikiria kuwa anakupenda?
Acha ushabiki MUNGU hadhihakiwi.

Kwa hiyo huyo Mungu wako ndio anaesadia huo ushenzi wa Israel? Basi Mungu huyo kituko kweli.Na hawa wa Israeli si ndii waliomtandika nijeledi Yesu hawa! Kwa hiyo Mungu katandikwa bakora ndio akawaahidi fanyeni ushenzi mtakavyo.

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[Jile79]

{Say: We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered.} (Al-Baqarah 2: 136)

Hapo sijamuona katajwa mtungaji wa Bibilia(Paulo), lazima atakuwa shetani tu ndio sababu kawapoteza, sababu yeye ni MuIsrael:becky:

Uislamu ni dini ya kisela.
mnaamini allah=Mungu wa kweli
mnaamini braham, moses, etc wa mbalandohuyohuyo wa masaki au wa tz ndohuyo wa Sweden. Sijui mnaita mtiume wanaaopatikana kwenye kitabu ambacho ukikojolea unageuka mjusi eti ndo haohao wanaopatikana kwenye bible takatifu!!!!!!!!!....Mnadhrau sn nyie wala nguruwe kwa siri

 

[Adiosamigo]

Uislamu ni dini ya kisela.
mnaamini allah=Mungu wa kweli
mnaamini braham, moses, etc wa mbalandohuyohuyo wa masaki au wa tz ndohuyo wa Sweden. Sijui mnaita mtiume wanaaopatikana kwenye kitabu ambacho ukikojolea unageuka mjusi eti ndo haohao wanaopatikana kwenye bible takatifu!!!!!!!!!....Mnadhrau sn nyie wala nguruwe kwa siri

dogo hapo ndio umeonyesha ujinga wako, nyie mnamini Yesu si Issa sa Yesu jina hilo mmelipata wapi wakati lugha ya kina Yesu hakuna jina la Yesu:becky:

 

[Jile79]

sawa bwana Mzee, kisha Mungu aliagiza kipi kuhusu Wapalestina wanaoishi huko? au hakuwaumba?

Hao ni wavamizi.....ila allah anakudanganya sana. Ndo maana inaitwa nchi ya ahadi ndo pale kwani dunia imejaa mpaka wagande pale km KUPE?/?

 

[Jile79]

dogo hapo ndio umeonyesha ujinga wako, nyie mnamini Yesu si Issa sa Yesu jina hilo mmelipata wapi wakati lugha ya kina Yesu hakuna jina la Yesu:becky:

Du bado unaazimisha mtume wa john wa mbagala azima awe ndo huyohuyo wa tanga kwa sababu tu wanafanana anjina? Shidazenu mnashindwa kuchanganya akili za kichochochezi kutka misikiti kote duniani na akili halisi mlizoumbwa nazo.
Kwa hiyo kati ya mitume wenu aliyewafundisha vitu kama kuua ili uende peponi, kuoa vivulana, kuoa wake hovyo na kuzalisha watoto wa mitaani, kujitolea muhanda na uchafu wote ambao wautendao wanashika quran ni nani mwalimu wa haya yote???????

Nikuulize kitu: Unadhani mototo wa kiislamu akikojolea bibilia 100 wakristo watachoma misikiti mingapi?

 

[Adiosamigo]

Du bado unaazimisha mtume wa john wa mbagala azima awe ndo huyohuyo wa tanga kwa sababu tu wanafanana anjina? Shidazenu mnashindwa kuchanganya akili za kichochochezi kutka misikiti kote duniani na akili halisi mlizoumbwa nazo.
Kwa hiyo kati ya mitume wenu aliyewafundisha vitu kama kuua ili uende peponi, kuoa vivulana, kuoa wake hovyo na kuzalisha watoto wa mitaani, kujitolea muhanda na uchafu wote ambao wautendao wanashika quran ni nani mwalimu wa haya yote???????

Nikuulize kitu: Unadhani mototo wa kiislamu akikojolea bibilia 100 wakristo watachoma misikiti mingapi?

dogo unaonyesha hata shule ulikimbia hujamaliza, pole sana kamwmabie baba yako bado una chance ya kurudi kusoma asikwepe kukulipia pesa za kununua viazi asubuhi:becky:

 

[Wickama]

Hao ni wavamizi.....ila allah anakudanganya sana. Ndo maana inaitwa nchi ya ahadi ndo pale kwani dunia imejaa mpaka wagande pale km KUPE?/?

ukipata muda jisomee hii article

"Jews" Are Not Descendants of Abraham

 

[chuma cha reli]

Mgogoro ule unaendelezwa na makundi mawili, kundi la kwanza ni wale wenye maslahi ya kiuchumi na kisiasa,hawa wanajulikana. Kundi la pili ni hawa jamaa zangu wanaojifanya wana uhusiano aidha wa kiroho au wa kiukoo na Israel ili hali hawajui chochote juu ya taifa hili kwa undani ila maneno tu ya mtaani, someni mtawajua vizuri hawa watu mwarabu ni nani mpalestina ni nani, myahudi ni nani, ndipo useme sasa muisrael ni nani? . Nani anastahili nini?

Tusome wapi hebu tuelekeze ndugu yangu katika bwana

 

[Genekai]

Kwamba USA imeanza kuichoka Israel? Mkuu hicho kitu sahau. As a matter of fact, USA's security system imeshikiliwa na Israel be it the national economy or social security. So USA haiwezi kuiacha Israel labda ISRAEL iiache USA!!!


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[incharge]

Kwamba USA imeanza kuichoka Israel? Mkuu hicho kitu sahau. As a matter of fact, USA's security system imeshikiliwa na Israel be it the national economy or social security. So USA haiwezi kuiacha Israel labda ISRAEL iiache USA!!!


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Israel Iiache usa halafu itasurvive vipi?? Kama 80% ya waisrael ni masikini, wanaishi kwa kutegemea misaada kutoka marekani which is american taxpayers money, na hujui kwamba bila ya marekani hata hilo taofa la israel hutalisikia tena?