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[jMali]

Ok. Slip of my fingers. Jibu post namba #36

wapi hiyo post? weka link basi au wewe ukiclick hapo inafunguka?

 

[jMali]

yes. When you quote someone it is only fair to tag him otherwise hayo ni majungu. Na majungu huwa ni ya wanawake, so should i henceforth conclude that you are of the same gender for etiquette purposes?

we conclude tu haina tabu shemeji.

 

[MK254]

Nimefuatilia huu uzi, halafu naona hakuna Mtanzania hata mmoja ambaye amecoment, yaani watu washachoka na hizi hadithi na chuki za kipuzi. Wacha tuwaachie uwanja Warwanda, nina uhakika iko siku mtasikizana, na waliotorkea Tanzania watarudi kwao.

 

[Commanche]

jMali,

Your hatred for Tutsi is absurd. You need to accept the fact that Tutsi are Rwandans too. Hata ukeshe hapa na propaganda zako za kipuuzi ukweli hautabadilika. Kagame is in power and is not going anywhere anytime soon. Wanyarwanda wanamkubali si kwa u-Tutsi wake bali ni kwa utendaji wake madhubuti. Rwanda is predominantly hutu so beneficiaries of educational policies as is the case with any other public policy are Hutu. Nimeona niwe muwazi kwa kuwa unapenda sana ukabila. Hutaki kukubali kuwa Rwanda inasonga mbele bila ya kuendekeza masuala ya ubaguzi wa kikabila kama unavyosema. Quit your stupid obsession with Tutsi. Chuki zako ni counter-productive. Watu kama ninyi ndio mlisababisha genocide in the first place. Most Hutu are hard-working peace-loving citizens who just aspire for a better life. Ni extremists like you and your uncles who are still stuck in 1959. Kwenu kila kitu kina sura ya makundi; tutsi this hutu that. Cmon kid move on!

 

[JustDoItNow]

Na ndio maana wanaokujuwa lengo lako, huwa wanakuwahi juu kwa juu! Eti unauliza Au siku hizi huko Rwanda inakubalika kuwa kuna orphans wa "genocide against tutsi" ambao ni wahutu?
Jibu ni ndio! Hebu nikuulize Jmali, wale wanawake mliokuwa mkiwabaka kipindi chenu cha chinja chinja, watoto wao ni kabila gani? Ni yatima waki Hutu ambao hata mababa zao huwezi kuwajuwa milele.
Usiwe unakuja na vistory vya kupotosha watu wasiowajuwa, kama huyo aliyeanzisha hiyo shule halidhishwi na utendaji wake basi aifunge! yeye ndiye mwendeshaji au vipi? We unafikiri nani wa kumlaumu? Sumu zako zinakuambia tumlaumu Kagame? Au watutsi? We kweli umechanjiwa ubaguzi.

Mzee wa sumu tema sumu tema sumuuuu. We kwani rwanda ulishafika? si huko huku bongo? au? Mzee wa sumu kwani we ni kabila gani? mbona hutaki kusema? tema sumu tema sumuuuu

 

[JustDoItNow]

Nimefuatilia huu uzi, halafu naona hakuna Mtanzania hata mmoja ambaye amecoment, yaani watu washachoka na hizi hadithi na chuki za kipuzi. Wacha tuwaachie uwanja Warwanda, nina uhakika iko siku mtasikizana, na waliotorkea Tanzania watarudi kwao.

Mama hupo? sijakusikia siku nyingi. Vipi al shabab? mumeelewana nao siku hizi? au mmekubali masharti yao?
Kweli Al shabab ni noma wamemshikisha sheria kenyata

 

[JustDoItNow]

jMali,

Your hatred for Tutsi is absurd. You need to accept the fact that Tutsi are Rwandans too. Hata ukeshe hapa na propaganda zako za kipuuzi ukweli hautabadilika. Kagame is in power and is not going anywhere anytime soon. Wanyarwanda wanamkubali si kwa u-Tutsi wake bali ni kwa utendaji wake madhubuti. Rwanda is predominantly hutu so beneficiaries of educational policies as is the case with any other public policy are Hutu. Nimeona niwe muwazi kwa kuwa unapenda sana ukabila. Hutaki kukubali kuwa Rwanda inasonga mbele bila ya kuendekeza masuala ya ubaguzi wa kikabila kama unavyosema. Quit your stupid obsession with Tutsi. Chuki zako ni counter-productive. Watu kama ninyi ndio mlisababisha genocide in the first place. Most Hutu are hard-working peace-loving citizens who just aspire for a better life. Ni extremists like you and your uncles who are still stuck in 1959. Kwenu kila kitu kina sura ya makundi; tutsi this hutu that. Cmon kid move on!

Mkuu, wewe si ulisema ni mtanzania? au? hehehehhee.....
Mtanzania mwenye asili ya rwanda? Duh! ipo kazi huko kwenue sijui rwanda sijui kwa wanyamulenge ni balaaa.

 

[Commanche]

Mkuu, wewe si ulisema ni mtanzania? au? hehehehhee.....
Mtanzania mwenye asili ya rwanda? Duh! ipo kazi huko kwenue sijui rwanda sijui kwa wanyamulenge ni balaaa.

JustDoItNow,

U-Tanzania wangu unahusika vipi katika maandishi yangu hapo juu? Swali hili muulize ndugu yako jMali maana yake yeye ndiye mueneza chuki za kikabila wakati wa-Tanzania hatuna tabia za kibaguzi iwe kwa ukabila, makundi, rangi n.k. Huyu kaka yako kutwa ni kuchukia Tutsi. Mwalimu alishasema dhambi ya ubaguzi ni kama kula nyama ya mtu, ukianza huachi. Hapa jamaa yako leo anachukia Tutsi as if Hutu ni wamoja. Kesho atasema Hutu wa northern Rwanda ni bora kuliko Hutu wa southern Rwanda or vice versa. Amefikia hatua ya kukataa uwepo wa orphans of war kutokana na systematic rapes that Tutsi women were subjected to in the hands of interahamwe murderers. He wants people to believe that it is not possible for women to have been raped and left alive?! What an airhead. Mshauri kaka yako aende Rwanda aone hali halisi badala ya kutegemea propaganda na story za inyenyeri kupata habari za Rwanda. WaTanzania hatudanganyiki!

 

[JustDoItNow]

JustDoItNow,

U-Tanzania wangu unahusika vipi katika maandishi yangu hapo juu? Swali hili muulize ndugu yako jMali maana yake yeye ndiye mueneza chuki za kikabila wakati wa-Tanzania hatuna tabia za kibaguzi iwe kwa ukabila, makundi, rangi n.k. Huyu kaka yako kutwa ni kuchukia Tutsi. Mwalimu alishasema dhambi ya ubaguzi ni kama kula nyama ya mtu, ukianza huachi. Hapa jamaa yako leo anachukia Tutsi as if Hutu ni wamoja. Kesho atasema Hutu wa northern Rwanda ni bora kuliko Hutu wa southern Rwanda or vice versa. Amefikia hatua ya kukataa uwepo wa orphans of war kutokana na systematic rapes that Tutsi women were subjected to in the hands of interahamwe murderers. He wants people to believe that it is not possible for women to have been raped and left alive?! What an airhead. Mshauri kaka yako aende Rwanda aone hali halisi badala ya kutegemea propaganda na story za inyenyeri kupata habari za Rwanda. WaTanzania hatudanganyiki!

Ehehehe, eti watanzania hatudanganyiki. Unajua wewe na wenzio mnajichanganya kitu kimoja. Mtu yeyote anayemkosoa kagame ni interahamwe, na hutu. Wewe Tangu mwanzo ulishasema ni mtanzania ok, me i do not care kwasababu Tanzania ni wide country na tuna mchanganyiko wa watu wa ainatofauti tofauti sana. Watu kama wa Arusha, Singida, bukoba na watu wa kisiwa cha kome uzinza na ukerewe kidogo ukiwaangalia wakisema mimi mtusi unaweza ukaamini kutokana na kufanana.
Hilo mi sina shida kabisa.
Sasa shida inakuja hawa jamaa zako wakiona una mkosoa kagame unaitwa hutu. Ukimsifia kagame ndo unakuwa rafiki yao. Sasa huoni kuwa huo ni ukabila upo ndani ya haka kanchi kadogo? ina maana hakuna tusi anayemkosoa kagame? Hapa TZ ukabila na chama hakuna kabisa. Hata siku moja hutasikia mtu ana kutambua kabila lako kwa kumpinga kiongozi wa nchi au chama fulani

 

[Talkandtalk]

Nashukuru kwa mchango wako:

1. Hebu soma vizuri mwanzo wa thread uone disclaimer yangu: Habari imechapishwa na gazeti la Citizen na imeletwa jukwaani na lawmaina78. Links za original article toka gazeti la citizen imewekwa, link ya original thread imewekwa, Mimi nimejadili maudhui ya kilicholetwa, sijaongeza wala kupunguza. Sasa hapo huoni unanionea kwa kunishambulia? Kama kuna makosa yoyote ya usahihi wa kilichoandikwa anayetakiwa kushambuliwa obviously ni gazeti la Citizen kwa kuandika habari za upotoshaji, labda kwa mbali kama akili zako ni ndogo kama kina watani zangu fulani unaweza pia kumlaumu lawmaina78 kwa kuleta habari toka "interahamwe/FDLR funded media" (ambao bado in this case ni the citizen). Nastahili kuombwa radhi kwa hili.

2. Sioni kivipi hayo maandishi yako toka mtandao wa shule yanabadili chochote: nakunukuu:

Sonrise is unique in that it purposely enrolls a combination of fifty percent "fee paying" students who come from stable homes and fifty percent orphan students who must depend on the generosity of our "sponsors" to pay their school fees

sasa hapo unataka kusema nini? mbona kama bado gazeti la citizen wako sahihi? shule imesema 50% ya wanafunzi ni orphans. Wao citizen walichoongeza ni kuwa hao orphans ni specifically wale waliotokana na genocide, ambapo by implication maana yake 50% ni watutsi. Au siku hizi huko Rwanda inakubalika kuwa kuna orphans wa "genocide against tutsi" ambao ni wahutu? Shule imesema wanafunzi wako 1100, citizen wamesema wako zaidi kidogo ya 1200, obviously article ya citizen imekuja baada ya article ya shule. Vinginevyo mbona kila kitu kiko sawa au miimi ndio sijaelewa?

3. Mwanzilishi wa hii shule ya sonrise ni Bishop John Rucyahana, ambaye ameandika kitabu kinaitwa The bishop of Rwanda kilichochapwa mwaka 2007. Kwenye dibaji ya kitabu hiki inayopatikana hapa: The Bishop of Rwanda - John Rucyahana - Google Books yanasomeka maneno haya ambayo hayapingani na post ya the Citizen:

"In 1994, as his country descended into the madness of genocide, Anglican Bishop John Rucyahana underwent the mind-numbing pain of having members of his church and family butchered. John refused to become a part of the systemic hatred. He founded the Sonrise orphanage and school for children orphaned in the genocide, and he now leads reconciliation efforts between his own Tutsi people, the victims of this horrific massacre, and the perpetrators, the Hutus. His remarkable story is one that demands to be told."

Huyu ndie MWANZILISHI WA SHULE, na yeye mwenyewe ana-support version ya gazeti la citizen!

2001 That was exactly 7 years after the Genocide, with Genocide orphans in need of having at least a basic primary education

 

[jMali]

2001 That was exactly 7 years after the Genocide, with Genocide orphans in need of having at least a basic primary education

Habari ni ya 2014! Halafu are you saying orphans wote hawa walizaliwa exactly 1994 and not before? Leo hii aliyezaliwa 1994 ana miaka 20, je kuna ukweli kusema from std 1 up to 7, 50% wawe ni orphans of genocide?

 

[Talkandtalk]

Habari ni ya 2014! Halafu are you saying orphans wote hawa walizaliwa exactly 1994 and not before? Leo hii aliyezaliwa 1994 ana miaka 20, je kuna ukweli kusema from std 1 up to 7, 50% wawe ni orphans of genocide?

jMali, i dont think this to be an issue to be discussed by great thinkers:
Kwanza kumbuka hii sio public school, ni private school inayojiendesha kwakutegemea misaada ya wahisani:
Pili,sidhani kama wewe ndio utakuwa the first person ku notice kuwa watoto waliozaliwa 1994 sasa hivi ni watu wazima na hawahesabiwi katika watoto wa shule za msingi:
Kabla wahisani hawajatoa pesa nina imani wanatoa baada yakuwa convinced kwamba misaada inapelekwa pale inapohitajika.
Mpaka sasa hivi shule hii inapata misaada kutoka nje, unadhani hawajui anything about Rwanda Genocide?
Yes, stori imetolewa in 2014, lakini inaongelea shule iliyoanzishwa in 2001:
Kuna Rafiki yangu daktari, nilikutana naye jana na nikakuta kumbe nayeye anafuatiliaga mijadala humu jamiiforum:
Then he did mention something about you;
Infact inawezekana sana, wewe ni muathilika wa mauaji ya Rwanda, and your comments direction inaelekea maybe your parents are in prison in Rwanda ,killed during the war or you lost properties after 1994 Genocide and so you attribute those losses to all Tutsis.
And your daily concern on Rwanda, inakuwa kama kujaribu ku release something with in you.
The guy was feeling sympathy for you and infact you need counselling, you need to know that it was not only you, infact majority Rwandese lost families.
Hate is not a solution,kwani wewe ndio unajiumiza:
Iweje wewe tu, ndio ufahamike hapa jukwaani when it comes to the issues concerning Rwanda,inakuwaje you are always the topic starter for any negative news on Rwanda, Inakuwaje wewe ndio una onyesha openly hate against Tutsi?

 

[jMali]

jMali, i dont think this to be an issue to be discussed by great thinkers:
Kwanza kumbuka hii sio public school, ni private school inayojiendesha kwakutegemea misaada ya wahisani:
Pili,sidhani kama wewe ndio utakuwa the first person ku notice kuwa watoto waliozaliwa 1994 sasa hivi ni watu wazima na hawahesabiwi katika watoto wa shule za msingi:
Kabla wahisani hawajatoa pesa nina imani wanatoa baada yakuwa convinced kwamba misaada inapelekwa pale inapohitajika.
Mpaka sasa hivi shule hii inapata misaada kutoka nje, unadhani hawajui anything about Rwanda Genocide?
Yes, stori imetolewa in 2014, lakini inaongelea shule iliyoanzishwa in 2001:
Kuna Rafiki yangu daktari, nilikutana naye jana na nikakuta kumbe nayeye anafuatiliaga mijadala humu jamiiforum:
Then he did mention something about you;
Infact inawezekana sana, wewe ni muathilika wa mauaji ya Rwanda, and your comments direction inaelekea maybe your parents are in prison in Rwanda ,killed during the war or you lost properties after 1994 Genocide and so you attribute those losses to all Tutsis.
And your daily concern on Rwanda, inakuwa kama kujaribu ku release something with in you.
The guy was feeling sympathy for you and infact you need counselling, you need to know that it was not only you, infact majority Rwandese lost families.
Hate is not a solution,kwani wewe ndio unajiumiza:
Iweje wewe tu, ndio ufahamike hapa jukwaani when it comes to the issues concerning Rwanda,inakuwaje you are always the topic starter for any negative news on Rwanda, Inakuwaje wewe ndio una onyesha openly hate against Tutsi?

Wether ni shule ya public or private tunaongelea policy ya yatima wa genocide against tutsis ambao kwa sasa obviously hawa-exist. Kwa hiyo policy hii kwa maana nyingine imewekwa ili mradi tu watutsi tu wawe 50% mashuleni ingawa wako less than 15% ya population ya nchi. Nchi makini haiwezi kukubali shule hata kama ni binafsi iwe na policies za kijinga jinga, hata hapa bongo shule private haiwezi kuweka policy ya kukataa wanafunzi wa kabila fulani au kuweka ratio ya kabila fulani.
Hizo personal attacks hazina ishu, lets go back to the hoja at hand.

 

[Carbondioxide]

Boko haram-elimu ya magharibi ni haram.

 

[Umslopagas]

The hell would i know?

Jean Marie AKA JMALI

 

[jMali]

Jean Marie AKA JMALI

Jean marie runiga

 

[Umslopagas]

Jean marie runiga

Oooh! I forgot your 3rd name kwa kifupi, Runiga au RUNIGAMPINJA

 

[MK254]

Ehehehe, eti watanzania hatudanganyiki. Unajua wewe na wenzio mnajichanganya kitu kimoja. Mtu yeyote anayemkosoa kagame ni interahamwe, na hutu. Wewe Tangu mwanzo ulishasema ni mtanzania ok, me i do not care kwasababu Tanzania ni wide country na tuna mchanganyiko wa watu wa ainatofauti tofauti sana. Watu kama wa Arusha, Singida, bukoba na watu wa kisiwa cha kome uzinza na ukerewe kidogo ukiwaangalia wakisema mimi mtusi unaweza ukaamini kutokana na kufanana.
Hilo mi sina shida kabisa.
Sasa shida inakuja hawa jamaa zako wakiona una mkosoa kagame unaitwa hutu. Ukimsifia kagame ndo unakuwa rafiki yao. Sasa huoni kuwa huo ni ukabila upo ndani ya haka kanchi kadogo? ina maana hakuna tusi anayemkosoa kagame? Hapa TZ ukabila na chama hakuna kabisa. Hata siku moja hutasikia mtu ana kutambua kabila lako kwa kumpinga kiongozi wa nchi au chama fulani

Kumkosoa Kagame mbona ni jambo la kawaida, na Watanzania wengi humkosoa, lakini nyie wawili yenu huwa imepitiliza, mmejaa chuki za kishetani. Sipati picha jinsi ninaweza amka kila siku kuiponda nchi ya watu kutwa ilhali huku kwetu Nairobi tuna matatizo chungu nzima.

Kama nyie Watanzania wa kweli tungeona hata wakati mwingine mkihusika kwenye mambo ya Tanzania, maana hata kuna mambo mengi yanatendeka huko Bongo tunayaona yanagonga vichwa vya habari kimataifa. Ufisadi ule wa IPTL umefanya hadi Wazungu wamesitisha misaada, pembe za ndovu zinabebwa na ndege ya rais, juzi Watanzania wafugaji wamechoma hoteli ya kitalii na kuwafukuza watalii, kuna habari nimeona wafugaji na wakulima wanauana Tanzania kwa ajili ya ardhi n.k.

Watanzania wengi wanao-comment kuhusu Kagame hufanya hivyo lakini utawakuta tena kwenye forums za Kibongo wakiongea ya kwao, lakini nyie mmerogewa na Rwanda. Sijui Warwanda wakichinjana tena ndio mtafaidi kivipi.

 

[mwantui]

badilisha heading

 

[JustDoItNow]

Kumkosoa Kagame mbona ni jambo la kawaida, na Watanzania wengi humkosoa, lakini nyie wawili yenu huwa imepitiliza, mmejaa chuki za kishetani. Sipati picha jinsi ninaweza amka kila siku kuiponda nchi ya watu kutwa ilhali huku kwetu Nairobi tuna matatizo chungu nzima.

Kama nyie Watanzania wa kweli tungeona hata wakati mwingine mkihusika kwenye mambo ya Tanzania, maana hata kuna mambo mengi yanatendeka huko Bongo tunayaona yanagonga vichwa vya habari kimataifa. Ufisadi ule wa IPTL umefanya hadi Wazungu wamesitisha misaada, pembe za ndovu zinabebwa na ndege ya rais, juzi Watanzania wafugaji wamechoma hoteli ya kitalii na kuwafukuza watalii, kuna habari nimeona wafugaji na wakulima wanauana Tanzania kwa ajili ya ardhi n.k.

Watanzania wengi wanao-comment kuhusu Kagame hufanya hivyo lakini utawakuta tena kwenye forums za Kibongo wakiongea ya kwao, lakini nyie mmerogewa na Rwanda. Sijui Warwanda wakichinjana tena ndio mtafaidi kivipi.

Mbona wewe ni Mkenya lakini kila siku unafatilia mambo ya Tanzania? This is International forum. Maswala ya Tanzania tuachie watanzania wenyewe. Nilishakuambia hata ukitoa machozi ya damu, huwezi kuubadili utanzania wangu. Mimi hata mpakani mwa rwanda sijui pakoje. Sikutegemea kama ipo siku kanchi kadogo kama rwanda katamwambia Rais wetu kata m hit.
Kagame amepitia hapa bongo tumembebabeba leo hii unaona hata hao wazee wa jenosaidi wanaongea kiswahili fresh lakini dharau mtindo mmoja. Hii inaonyesha wamekaa sana Tanzania na mpaka sasa inawezekana wamo humu Tanzania. Kwa maana hiyo ndo maana tunawapigilia msumali. Kwenye issue za siasa za TZ mi nafatilia sana. nimejoin groups kwenye social networks kama kwenye whatsap kuhusu siasa, kwenye facebook, twiter, wale tuliosoma chuo kimoja, nk.
Rais kabila na marehemu baba yake tumewapa hifadhi hapa bongo. Sisi ni watu wazuri sana
we mwenyewe umelelewa na watanzania, lakini leo hii unashikamana na hao wauaji. Bwe.ge kweli wewe.