Kipengele cha 'DINI' ktk vitambulisho vya taifa

Fitinamwiko · Sep 1, 2012

morenja said:
mimi naona haya madai ya ponda .yataleta matatizo yasio kwisha .kwanini ? Mfano mimi binafsi mke wangu anaitwa Fatuma nanii mkristo kwani sasa hivi ukibadili kuingia ukristo ni mapenzi yako kubadili jina ,sasa tukihesabiwa .ponda akakuta kwenye orodha jina la Fatuma lakini dini mkristo .siataanza madai mapya kwamba sensa imechakachuliwa ?

Mkuu! Jina si dini na Mke wako sio wa kwanza kubadilisha dini. Wapo kina Ibrahim Kiduma, Augustino Ramadhan, Mwaipopo nk. Kuhusu kuchakachuliwa, mbona uchaguzi 2010 ulichakachuliwa na JK bado ni President? Sasa kuficha/kukataa kipengele cha dini kitabadilisha dini ya Mkeo?
Mh Ponda hatakwenda katika tume ya takwimu kuhakikisha majina ya watu wote waliohesabiwa na dini zao, bali tunataka tatol number ya Watanzania, wanaume wangapi na wanawake wangapi? Wakulima, wafanyabiashara, wanafunzi, wafanyakazi na watoto wangapi? Then waislam, wakristo,Rastafari, Budist, Hindu, wapagani nk wangapi? Ambapo lingekuwa jambo bora na la kisasa, kuliko huo uoga wa serikali ya ccm wa kuficha ukweli.

Fitinamwiko · Sep 1, 2012

andate said:
Je unafahamu kuwa kwenye nchi iitwayo Saud Arabia, vitambulisho vya wa-Islam ni vya kijani na vya wasio wa-Islam ni vyekundu?
Unajua vitu vingine huanza kidogo-kidogo na huwezi jua mwisho wake utakuwa nini. Hata vitabu vya sheria havikutengemaa siku moja, sheria ziliongezwa kidogokidogo na mwishowe tukawa na vitabu vikubwa vya sheria zetu.
Wanasema kinga ni bora kuliko tiba.

Hauwezi pata kinga bila kujua Ugonjwa, na wanasema "mficha maradhi,kifo humuumbua" Angalia takwimu zote mitandaoni za population density utaona uwiano wa dini almost ktk kila nchi. Hata Tz pia wameweka hizo fake data. Serikali imepinga hizo takwimu, kwanini wanaogopa kuweka takwimu za kweli?

njiwa · Sep 1, 2012

Janjaweed said:
Listen you pussy cat doll....... if it doesnt matter, why bother

Bastard wewe, babako, mamako, bibiyako, babu zako, mmeo, vizazi vyako, mali zako, mimea yako, choo chako, na kama una madeni nayo bastard, kama una ndoto nazo bastard na hata kama una mawazo yoyote yale yooote ni bastard

walaanatuk

وأنا لا اللعنة مثليون جنسيا، وسبق أن والدك

Yeh aim bothered because i feel sorry for you Why did God create fools like you??? If I'm not mistaken you are in your early 30s frustrated hujapata mume wa kukustiri ? So you're going to be in your late 30s by the time your menopause come ...At that time no one will come for you so this is what you do find all posts about islam and muslims and release your all tensions ...

news flash tough guy ponda inawezekana hana haja ya kuongeza mke wa tatu try to diss mtu mwengine maybe utapata bahati and yeah, good luck with all that... idiot

P.S - The last sentence of your post sure screams deep desperation on your part...

andate · Sep 1, 2012

Fitinamwiko said:
Hauwezi pata kinga bila kujua Ugonjwa, na wanasema "mficha maradhi,kifo humuumbua" Angalia takwimu zote mitandaoni za population density utaona uwiano wa dini almost ktk kila nchi. Hata Tz pia wameweka hizo fake data. Serikali imepinga hizo takwimu, kwanini wanaogopa kuweka takwimu za kweli?

hizo data ni zipi? Je ni tofauti na zangu hapa chini?



Languages:
Kiswahili or Swahili (official), Kiunguja (name for Swahili in Zanzibar), English (official, primary language of commerce, administration, and higher education), Arabic (widely spoken in Zanzibar), many local languages note: Kiswahili (Swahili) is the mother tongue of the Bantu people living in Zanzibar and nearby coastal Tanzania; although Kiswahili is Bantu in structure and origin, its vocabulary draws on a variety of sources including Arabic and English; it has become the lingua franca of central and eastern Africa; the first language of most people is one of the local languages

Religions:
mainland - Christian 30%, Muslim 35%, indigenous beliefs 35%; Zanzibar - more than 99% Muslim

Population:
46,912,768 (July 2012 est.) country comparison to the world: 28 note: estimates for this country explicitly take into account the effects of excess mortality due to AIDS; this can result in lower life expectancy, higher infant mortality, higher death rates, lower population growth rates, and changes in the distribution of population by age and sex than would otherwise be expected au hapa chini https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/tz.html

andate · Sep 1, 2012

Fitinamwiko said:
Hauwezi pata kinga bila kujua Ugonjwa, na wanasema "mficha maradhi,kifo humuumbua" Angalia takwimu zote mitandaoni za population density utaona uwiano wa dini almost ktk kila nchi. Hata Tz pia wameweka hizo fake data. Serikali imepinga hizo takwimu, kwanini wanaogopa kuweka takwimu za kweli?

hizo data ni zipi? Je ni tofauti na zangu hapa chini?



Languages:
Kiswahili or Swahili (official), Kiunguja (name for Swahili in Zanzibar), English (official, primary language of commerce, administration, and higher education), Arabic (widely spoken in Zanzibar), many local languages note: Kiswahili (Swahili) is the mother tongue of the Bantu people living in Zanzibar and nearby coastal Tanzania; although Kiswahili is Bantu in structure and origin, its vocabulary draws on a variety of sources including Arabic and English; it has become the lingua franca of central and eastern Africa; the first language of most people is one of the local languages

Religions:
mainland - Christian 30%, Muslim 35%, indigenous beliefs 35%; Zanzibar - more than 99% Muslim

Population:
46,912,768 (July 2012 est.) country comparison to the world: 28 note: estimates for this country explicitly take into account the effects of excess mortality due to AIDS; this can result in lower life expectancy, higher infant mortality, higher death rates, lower population growth rates, and changes in the distribution of population by age and sex than would otherwise be expected au hapa chini https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/tz.html

Ngongoseke · Sep 1, 2012

Hii thread nikijibu chochote nakula BAN bora nipite tu hapa,

mopaozi · Sep 1, 2012

Ponda ni punguani

Fitinamwiko · Sep 1, 2012

andate said:
hizo data ni zipi? Je ni tofauti na zangu hapa chini?

Languages:

Kiswahili or Swahili (official), Kiunguja (name for Swahili in Zanzibar), English (official, primary language of commerce, administration, and higher education), Arabic (widely spoken in Zanzibar), many local languages
note: Kiswahili (Swahili) is the mother tongue of the Bantu people living in Zanzibar and nearby coastal Tanzania; although Kiswahili is Bantu in structure and origin, its vocabulary draws on a variety of sources including Arabic and English; it has become the lingua franca of central and eastern Africa; the first language of most people is one of the local languages

Religions:

mainland - Christian 30%, Muslim 35%, indigenous beliefs 35%; Zanzibar - more than 99% Muslim

Population:

46,912,768 (July 2012 est.)
country comparison to the world: 28 note: estimates for this country explicitly take into account the effects of excess mortality due to AIDS; this can result in lower life expectancy, higher infant mortality, higher death rates, lower population growth rates, and changes in the distribution of population by age and sex than would otherwise be expected

au hapa chini

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/tz.html

Sijui kama ni sawa au tofauti, ndio maana tulitaka Sensa hii ingetupatia Jawabu sahihi.

nyuki dume · Sep 1, 2012

meeku said:
Poor minded always discuss people. Wingi wa dini fulani na uchache utakusaidia nini kwenye mlo wako wa kila siku? Au wingi ndo kwenda peponi? Na hizo takwimu kama zilitolewa zilitokana na sensa? Kwa nini na waisilamu wasitumie namna ya kuhesabiana. malumbano ya simba na yanga ni uendawazimu. na nasema huyo ponda ni kichaa kati ya vichaa wanomsapoti. anawapelaka kuzimu.

Umesema ukweli!Maendeleo yanaletwa kwa bidii yako mwenyewe.Hivyo maendeleo hayajalishi wingi au uchache wa waumini. Tunaona mfano wa Israel na nchi za Waarabu.

Mjuni Lwambo · Sep 1, 2012

HAPPY MAKUKU said:
utakuwa unaumwa, sensa na vitambulisho wapi na wapi, mlijitangazia mko wengi cha ajabu mnapinga vikali kipengele hicho kwa sababu kingewaumbua sasa hivi mnaleta mada za kiabunuasi kuua soo. ninyi kweli mmeishiwa hamna lolote. tangazeni tena mko wengi kuliko wapagani ila kwa waislamu mmenoa.

Hii inasikitisha sana, Tanzania tunaenda wapi na udini huu, hivi viongozi wetu wako wapi wachukue hatua za maksudi kuepusha huu udini unaoenea kama moto wa kiangazi nyikani?, Hivi viongozi wetu hawaoni kuwa udini sasa umefikia hatua mbaya?. Sasa hebu ona huyu happy makuku, kumbe shida ni kujua wepi ni wengi kati ya waislamu na wakristo sasa ukijua halafu iweje, mtangaze taifa la kiislamu au?, au ikijulikana kuwa waislamu ni wengi ndio nini?

ntamaholo · Sep 1, 2012

itegamatwi said:
mkuu opaque sometimes inabidi uwe transparent,uruhusu ubongo uruhusu idea nyingine ziingie! Ponda hakugomea sensa kwasababu amependa,hoja yake kuu ilikuwa ni kuondoa utata wa kitakwimu uliochapishwa na vyanzo mbalimbali kalingana na dini za watanzania.sasa vitambulisho vya taifa vinahusikaje na ile hoja yake ya kwanza aliyoisimamia?

umesema mwenyewe fungua ubongo kuruhusu idea nyingine. Kama sio udini uliowajaa, kwani mtu akipotosha juu ya jambo fulani ndo unaanza kuilazimisha serikali kufanya kitu ambacho haijawahi kufikiri kukifanya? Kwa nini usiwafuate hao waliotoa takwimu na kuwauliza, wamezitoa wapi? Kwani lazima kukubaliana nao? Ukiwapotezea utapungukiwa nini?

Kama kweli mlidhamiria, mgomee hata vitambulisho, mdai huo uislam wenu

ntamaholo · Sep 1, 2012

fitinamwiko said:
sijui kama ni sawa au tofauti, ndio maana tulitaka sensa hii ingetupatia jawabu sahihi.

hawa ni cia, kwani lazima tukubaliane na takwimu zao? Kwa nini tukubali kutawaliwa kirahisi hivi?

Mjuni Lwambo · Sep 1, 2012

Ngongoseke said:
Hii thread nikijibu chochote nakula BAN bora nipite tu hapa,

Hapana mkuu usipite, wana jf tutafuteni solution ya udini, kama hakuna viongozi shupavu wa kupambana na udini ila tunao waku promote we cant just seat down and watch our country deteriorate kwa faida ya vizazi vyetu vijavyo we have to do something.

OLESAIDIMU · Sep 1, 2012

mtu wenu said:
Fikra za udini ni mbaya kuliko kula nyama ya nguruwe!

Na bado MODS wanaziendekeza tuu as if na wao wanafurahia matusi na kejeli

1. Hivi na nyie MODS itafikia kipindi tujiulize credibility zenu kwa kweli kama ni ban haya leo mnipe.......hivi kwa uzi kama huu zaidi ya watu kutoa lugha za kejeli na kutukanana wat else do you expect itakuwa ni manufaa kwa mwananchi wa kawaida aliye kijijini huko????

2. Tunatofauti gani na magazeti ya udaku kila kukicha heading mbovu na hazina tija kama hii achilia mbali uchonganishi na chuki inayozaliwa baada ya watu kusoma na kuchangia.......au ndo mgema akisifiwa?????

3. We expect nyie muwe dira na kuongoza jahazi hili kwa usalama ila kwa mimi.....hili linanitia shaka kama kweli mko nalo makini maneno kama hii haina tija kwa Taifa, mtu binafsi, jumuia za kidini wala JF yenyewe

Bora kufa wima kulika kuishi kwa kupiga magoti...............come what may

OLESAIDIMU · Sep 1, 2012

Ngongoseke said:
Hii thread nikijibu chochote nakula BAN bora nipite tu hapa,

Usipite kimya mkuu let us join hands na tuseme kwa pamoja bila kutukana wala kuvunja sheria.......kukaa kimya ni unyonge wa hali ya juu kabisa........suala hili si la kukali kimya as linatutafuna kimya kimya na kwa sasa media kama hii JF inataka kuwa kisima cha chokochoko matusi na lugha ya kejeli zimewekewa sensor ila thread zenye hila mbaya na matokeo hasi kabisa zinaachwa hewani.......huu ni zaidi ya matusi ya nguoni yasiyoruhusiwa hapa

Mytake; MODS nao ni sehemu ya tatizo hili la udini hapa jamvini

OLESAIDIMU · Sep 1, 2012

MNYISANZU said:
Hivi kuna tofauti yoyote kati ya Uislam na Ujinga?

Haya ndo mnayofurahia MODS

Mjuni Lwambo · Sep 1, 2012

Mkandara said:
Mjinga ni wewe uloshindwa kuelewa umuhimu na maana ya sensa. Kipengele cha dini ktk kitambulisho hakina maana yoyote kwetu wala wewe kwa sababu kitambulisho hakilengi kupeleka maendeleo kwa wananchi. Maadam nchi yetu haina dini msitake kutuaminisha kwamba hata watu wake hawana dini - tunazo na tuhesabiwe.

Mkuu mkandala nakuheshimu sana ila naomba nireply kwa kuku quote, mkuu naomba basi utueleweshe umuhimu wa kujua wakristo wangapi na waislamu na wapagani ni wangapi, hii itasaidia nini katika umaana wa sensa?, je serikali ktk kutoa huduma itakuwa inaconsider uwiano wa dini?, au labda mimi binafsi sijaelewa huenda serikali inataka kujenga makanisa, misikiti na mahekalu kwa wanainchi wake ili ijue itajenga kwa uwiano gani?, sawa wewe mkandala umesema una dini, hiyo imani yako inanihusu nini mimi? ktk taifa la watu wazima dini ya mtu inamhusu nini mtu mwingine mpaka tuanze kuuliziana dini zetu, MKANDALA naomba utufafanulie.

Takalani Sesame · Sep 1, 2012

Opaque said:
Baada ya sheikh Ponda kuwashawishi wajinga wachache kugomea sensa kwa kigezo cha kutokuwapo kipengele cha dini katika madodoso ya sensa, sasa macho na masikio yanaelekezwa katika zoezi la vitambulisho vya taifa.

Swali la kujiuliza; je, Ponda (kama kweli ni raia wa Tz na anastahili kupewa ID) na wengine wenye msimamo mkali wa dini ya kiisilamu, watagomea kupokea vitambulisho vya taifa hadi kipepengele cha dini kijumuishwe?

Naombeni kutajiwa faida angalau 3 za U-dini..

OLESAIDIMU · Sep 1, 2012

mandieta said:
Mjinga wewe na babako na mamako,mbwa koko wewe!

MODS.......happy now????

Makala Jr · Sep 1, 2012

Muangila said:
sisi waislam tuko wengi kwa sababu tunaoa wanawake zaidi ya mmoja hivyo hatujui nyota ya kijani tofauti na wenzetu wanooa mwanamke mmoja mpo hao........hili siyo suala la kujisifia mkuu.Hao watoto wengi mnakuwa na uwezo wa kuwasomesha wote na kuwalea katika mazingira safi? Ni vema kukumbuka kwamba hilo pia linachangia kushusha hadhi ya baadhi ya Waislamu pale wanaposhindwa kuwalea watoto wao na kuwaweka ktk mazingira ya ushindani wa ajira.

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