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Wakuu nawaombeni msome kuhusu kilichotokea ujenzi wa Reli nchini Kenya.

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Last week’s arrival of the first batch of the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) locomotives has done little to quell public debate on whether Kenya really got value for money.

The jury is also still out on the number of hours it will take to shuttle between Nairobi and Mombasa, with opinion divided on the maximum speed of both the passenger and freight trains.

While Ethiopia’s electric train attracted much fanfare, Kenya’s diesel engine locomotives were welcomed last Monday with mockery, likening them to century-old trains.A random search online shows that the Dongfeng 11 (DF11) model was produced between 1992 and 2005, with a total of 459 units having been made.Transport experts say train journeys are nothing new in Kenya, with East Africa Shuttles and safaris putting the number of travellers who have travelled between Nairobi and Mombasa in the past 10 years at more than 2,000.

However, the journey usually takes 17 hours over the narrow gauge railway, the only consolation being the a relaxed view through the scenic Tsavo National park.

The arrival of the Dongfeng 11 (DF11) diesel locomotives has created a buzz with the expectation that they will halve the time it takes to travel by road - which is the most preferred means of transport for many Kenyans - to four hours, an immense improvement on the 17 hours by rail by any standard. Not everybody, however, is optimistic about their much-touted efficiency, especially their speed capacity put at 100 kilometres per hour for the passenger train and 90 kilometres per hour for the cargo one.

Experts say while the SGR trains can achieve a speed of over 100 kilometres per hour, which would ideally reduce the Mombasa-Nairobi journey to under five hours, passengers are unlikely to realise this.

BRAKING DISTANCE

They say a host of factors will be at play, which could see the 472-kilometre journey take as many as eight hours and not the much-touted four-and-a-half hours.

According to Kariuki Kimiti, a transport consultant with a bias on railway transport, the numerous stops along the railway route will mean the trains will rarely achieve the top speeds on their journey between Nairobi and Mombasa.

“When leaving one station, the train will need time to gather momentum and reach a speed of between 80 and 100 kilometres per hour. It will also need a braking distance of about seven kilometres when approaching the next station. So for stations that are, for instance 40 kilometres apart, the train can only go at top speeds of about 20 kilometres,” he said.

“To take four hours, it would mean the train travels at a speed of 120 kilometres per hour without any stops. If the trains are going to stop at every station, at the very minimum, it will take eight hours between Mombasa and Nairobi. If the number of stops is minimised to, say three towns, then it can take about six hours.” Mr Kimiti is, however, quick to add that the speeds expected to be achieved on SGR are a great improvement compared to over 13 hours it takes on the metre gauge railway.

The Government has put up a spirited fight to defend the quality of the trains, insisting they are of high quality haulage with fire power of 3100KW and a maximum speed of 100 kilometres per hour. “The delivery of this first batch of freight locomotives is a major milestone on this journey. The Mombasa-Nairobi SGR has registered a remarkable construction speed and we expect completion of the entire project soon within our contract terms,” said Transport Cabinet Secretary James Macharia when he received the first batch of locomotives at the Mombasa Port.


Source: Why Kenya may have got short end of the stick in SGR locomotives deal
 
Ndio maana Rais wetu Magufuli amewashtukia wachina. Watanzania bado tuna kumbukumbu ya kashfa ya mabehewa ijapokuwa mjadala huo kwa sasa haupo
 
Tatizo sio ujenzi wa reli,tatizo ni masaa mangapi yatatumika kutoka Mombasa mpaka Nairobi.
Someni habari kwanza.
Mkuu tunachukulia ujenzi wote kwa ujumla ambao kitaalamu alitafutwa mkandarasi mwenye hadhi ya EPC Contractor
 
Mtanzania NA VIJIMAMBO. UNAKATA RIPOTI NUSU LOOKING FOR ORGASM ABOUT KENYA. IMESEMA VIZURI KUTAKUWA NA AINA MBILI YA HUDUMA. KAMA MABASI TU-EXPRESS BILA KUSIMAMA NA county trains ITAKAYO CHUKUA MUDA MREFU AMBOPA ITASIMAMA KILA KITUO.ATA KAKA KAMA UNATAFUTA KIKI TUMIA AKILI KIDOGO!!!
Kenya Railways to operate express trains on Standard Gauge Railway

Read more at: Kenya Railways to operate express trains on Standard Gauge Railway
Kenya Railways to operate express trains on Standard Gauge Railway By Macharia Kamau

| Updated Fri, January 20th 2017 at 00:01 GMT +3 SHARE THIS ARTICLE Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Kenya Railways (KR) has defended the quality of trains that will be operated on the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR). The firm has also announced it will operate express trains to be known as intercity trains between Nairobi and Mombasa, with the journey between the two cities expected to take four hours.

The trains will make only one stop at Mtito Andei to allow for the crossing of another train in the opposite direction. KR Managing Director Atanas Maina said yesterday the firm will also operate county trains, which will make seven stops along the railway route, with each stop lasting a maximum of five minutes. He said the county trains are expected to take five hours and 25 minutes between Nairobi and Mombasa.

The passenger trains, added Mr Maina, will be given priority over cargo trains. “The railway will operate freight and passenger services. Passenger trains will be given priority on the line. Freight trains will be stopped at the crossing stations to enable passenger trains to pass in the same or opposite direction. This is a common practice all over the World,” he said.
 
Wakuu nawaombeni msome kuhusu kilichotokea ujenzi wa Reli nchini Kenya.

========

Last week’s arrival of the first batch of the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) locomotives has done little to quell public debate on whether Kenya really got value for money.

The jury is also still out on the number of hours it will take to shuttle between Nairobi and Mombasa, with opinion divided on the maximum speed of both the passenger and freight trains.

While Ethiopia’s electric train attracted much fanfare, Kenya’s diesel engine locomotives were welcomed last Monday with mockery, likening them to century-old trains.A random search online shows that the Dongfeng 11 (DF11) model was produced between 1992 and 2005, with a total of 459 units having been made.Transport experts say train journeys are nothing new in Kenya, with East Africa Shuttles and safaris putting the number of travellers who have travelled between Nairobi and Mombasa in the past 10 years at more than 2,000.

However, the journey usually takes 17 hours over the narrow gauge railway, the only consolation being the a relaxed view through the scenic Tsavo National park.

The arrival of the Dongfeng 11 (DF11) diesel locomotives has created a buzz with the expectation that they will halve the time it takes to travel by road - which is the most preferred means of transport for many Kenyans - to four hours, an immense improvement on the 17 hours by rail by any standard. Not everybody, however, is optimistic about their much-touted efficiency, especially their speed capacity put at 100 kilometres per hour for the passenger train and 90 kilometres per hour for the cargo one.

Experts say while the SGR trains can achieve a speed of over 100 kilometres per hour, which would ideally reduce the Mombasa-Nairobi journey to under five hours, passengers are unlikely to realise this.

BRAKING DISTANCE

They say a host of factors will be at play, which could see the 472-kilometre journey take as many as eight hours and not the much-touted four-and-a-half hours.

According to Kariuki Kimiti, a transport consultant with a bias on railway transport, the numerous stops along the railway route will mean the trains will rarely achieve the top speeds on their journey between Nairobi and Mombasa.

“When leaving one station, the train will need time to gather momentum and reach a speed of between 80 and 100 kilometres per hour. It will also need a braking distance of about seven kilometres when approaching the next station. So for stations that are, for instance 40 kilometres apart, the train can only go at top speeds of about 20 kilometres,” he said.

“To take four hours, it would mean the train travels at a speed of 120 kilometres per hour without any stops. If the trains are going to stop at every station, at the very minimum, it will take eight hours between Mombasa and Nairobi. If the number of stops is minimised to, say three towns, then it can take about six hours.” Mr Kimiti is, however, quick to add that the speeds expected to be achieved on SGR are a great improvement compared to over 13 hours it takes on the metre gauge railway.

The Government has put up a spirited fight to defend the quality of the trains, insisting they are of high quality haulage with fire power of 3100KW and a maximum speed of 100 kilometres per hour. “The delivery of this first batch of freight locomotives is a major milestone on this journey. The Mombasa-Nairobi SGR has registered a remarkable construction speed and we expect completion of the entire project soon within our contract terms,” said Transport Cabinet Secretary James Macharia when he received the first batch of locomotives at the Mombasa Port.


Source: Why Kenya may have got short end of the stick in SGR locomotives deal
Mtanzania NA VIJIMAMBO. UNAKATA RIPOTI NUSU LOOKING FOR ORGASM ABOUT KENYA. IMESEMA VIZURI KUTAKUWA NA AINA MBILI YA HUDUMA. KAMA MABASI TU-EXPRESS BILA KUSIMAMA NA county trains ITAKAYO CHUKUA MUDA MREFU AMBOPA ITASIMAMA KILA KITUO.ATA KAKA KAMA UNATAFUTA KIKI TUMIA AKILI KIDOGO!!!
Kenya Railways to operate express trains on Standard Gauge Railway

Read more at: Kenya Railways to operate express trains on Standard Gauge Railway
Kenya Railways to operate express trains on Standard Gauge Railway By Macharia Kamau

| Updated Fri, January 20th 2017 at 00:01 GMT +3 SHARE THIS ARTICLE Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Kenya Railways (KR) has defended the quality of trains that will be operated on the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR). The firm has also announced it will operate express trains to be known as intercity trains between Nairobi and Mombasa, with the journey between the two cities expected to take four hours.

The trains will make only one stop at Mtito Andei to allow for the crossing of another train in the opposite direction. KR Managing Director Atanas Maina said yesterday the firm will also operate county trains, which will make seven stops along the railway route, with each stop lasting a maximum of five minutes. He said the county trains are expected to take five hours and 25 minutes between Nairobi and Mombasa.

The passenger trains, added Mr Maina, will be given priority over cargo trains. “The railway will operate freight and passenger services. Passenger trains will be given priority on the line. Freight trains will be stopped at the crossing stations to enable passenger trains to pass in the same or opposite direction. This is a common practice all over the World,” he said.
Wakuu nawaombeni msome kuhusu kilichotokea ujenzi wa Reli nchini Kenya.
 
Naona mnatafuta pakutokea baada ya kuboronga kwa kujichanganya kwa yale ya Uturuki na Uchina. Sasa mumefuata mabehewa ya Wakenya kama stori.
Niliona eti mnamwomba Mturuki awape mkopo, wakati yeye pia anakopa kutoka kwa Mchina, hata reli yake kajengewa na Mchina.
 
Naona mnatafuta pakutokea baada ya kuboronga kwa kujichanganya kwa yale ya Uturuki na Uchina. Sasa mumefuata mabehewa ya Wakenya kama stori.
Niliona eti mnamwomba Mturuki awape mkopo, wakati yeye pia anakopa kutoka kwa Mchina, hata reli yake kajengewa na Mchina.
Hizi akili zingine niza kirabuni kwa wanywa gongo !!
Wewe ukiwa una kopeshwa huwezi kukopesha!!
Tafuta hoja za maana nasiyo porojo

Mkubari mmepigwa mpunga mkubwa kwa kuuziwa mitungi eti Treni
Nduo maana kila kukicha mna mna poromoka kwenye Rushwa na ufisadi!!

Kenya Drops Six Places in TI Global Graft Ranking
 
Hizi akili zingine niza kirabuni kwa wanywa gongo !!
Wewe ukiwa una kopeshwa huwezi kukopesha!!
Tafuta hoja za maana nasiyo porojo

Mkubari mmepigwa mpunga mkubwa kwa kuuziwa mitungi eti Treni
Nduo maana kila kukicha mna mna poromoka kwenye Rushwa na ufisadi!!

Kenya Drops Six Places in TI Global Graft Ranking

Wewe mada kama hizi huwa nakupuuza maana sio level yako na huna uwezo na elimu ya kuzijadili.

Uturuki deficit yao ya matumizi ya serikali ipo juu, sasa surplus ya kutoa mikopo kiasi cha kujenga reli ya SGR ipo wapi. Fanya comparison ya national debt % of GDP. Hata sijui kama utaelewa nini ninaongea kuhusu.

Usikurupe tu na yale mnaambiwa pale Lumumba ya kuandika kwenye mitandao, unafaa kuhoji pia kwa akili zako.
 
Naona mnatafuta pakutokea baada ya kuboronga kwa kujichanganya kwa yale ya Uturuki na Uchina. Sasa mumefuata mabehewa ya Wakenya kama stori.
Niliona eti mnamwomba Mturuki awape mkopo, wakati yeye pia anakopa kutoka kwa Mchina, hata reli yake kajengewa na Mchina.
Hahaha.. Huo ni weledi mzee, tupo huru kukopa kokote, na tumewaonesha kuwa China must stop thinking they can get the dal without competitive bid,
Wakenya mkubali tu your leaders are too weak. Hawawezi kusimamia maslahi mapana ya nchi, (long term).
It began with EPA, we said NO, .. Of which your leaders can't.
Again railway, We said NO,(Big and dry 'NO')

This is how I would like to see Africa behaving, one from Asia, America or Europe must not undermine us and think here is an easy way to go.
Halafu hujiulizi kwanini Ethiopia SGR, electrified, double stalked for over 200km, with modern locomotives is cheaper that your??? Ni vigumu sana kumpiga muhabeshi,
Hivyo ndivyo tunataka,
Chinese are smart upstairs, and we know that.. reli na locomotives alizoweka Turkey are never like yours,
MMEPIGWA sababu ya UJUAJI na USHAMBA na tamaa za viongizi wenu.

Get a glass of water. Relax,!
 
Hahaha.. Huo ni weledi mzee, tupo huru kukopa kokote, na tumewaonesha kuwa China must stop thinking they can get the dal without competitive bid,
Wakenya mkubali tu your leaders are too weak. Hawawezi kusimamia maslahi mapana ya nchi, (long term).
It began with EPA, we said NO, .. Of which your leaders can't.
Again railway, We said NO,(Big and dry 'NO')

This is how I would like to see Africa behaving, one from Asia, America or Europe must not undermine us and think here is an easy way to go.
Halafu hujiulizi kwanini Ethiopia SGR, electrified, double stalked for over 200km, with modern locomotives is cheaper that your??? Ni vigumu sana kumpiga muhabeshi,
Hivyo ndivyo tunataka,
Chinese are smart upstairs, and we know that.. reli na locomotives alizoweka Turkey are never like yours,
MMEPIGWA sababu ya UJUAJI na USHAMBA na tamaa za viongizi wenu.

Get a glass of water. Relax,!

Huu wimbo wa Wakenya tumepigwa naona mshakaririshwa pale Lumumba. Hebu weka akili kukaririshwa pembeni tufanye comparison ya kila kitu kwenye SGR ya Kenya na Ethiopia, tupige hesabu dollar by dollar ndio Ikuingie mnadanganywa ili mpotezee aibu ya kushindwa kwenye SGR yenu.

Hayo ya EPA siwezi kujadili nawe maana hamhafikia level ya kuelewa kwanini tunaifuata kwa hamu.
 
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