Kagame speaks out on Burundi political crisis

[gwijimimi]

Yeah if there is anyone who thinks PK will not do what PN is doing, must be from different planet.

What makes u so sure?

 

[JustDoItNow]

Nkurunziza is under pressure to follow the people’s wishes as exemplified by the protests in Burundi.



For the situation in Burundi to calm down, the country’s leaders must do more to stop the movement of refugees.

The remarks were made by President Paul Kagame, yesterday, during a conversation with China Central TV special contributor, James Chau, at the 45th St Gallen Symposium in Switzerland.

Rwanda is currently hosting more than 24,000 refugees who have fled Burundi following violent protests that erupted after the incumbent President, Pierre Nkurunziza, was nominated to run for a third term in office.

The President pointed out that the bigger issue that has led to the crisis is not entirely about presidential terms but rather what the leader has delivered for his people.

“It is not just about the president looking for a third term. That is just one problem among many,” President Kagame said.

“If your own citizens are telling you we don’t want you to do this or to lead us, it is because they are saying you are not delivering much to us. So how do you say I am staying anyway whether you want me or not? This is a serious problem.”

The elections are scheduled for June 26.

Protesters argue that Nkurunziza’s bid for a third term is a violation of the constitution as well as the 2000 Arusha peace deal that ended a protracted civil war.

President Kagame is due to meet with his East African Community counterparts in Tanzania, next week, to forge a way of calming the growing political tension in Burundi.

In addition to ordinary Burundian citizens, high profile refugees including politicians, lawmakers and judges have fled to Rwanda for safety.

“We will welcome the refugees, we will do the best we can, working with the UNHCR, with other countries and the region. The issue is not how well you take care of refugees. The issue is how we stop producing refugees,” President Kagame said.

Seventeen people have so far been killed in the protests.

Source: The New Times

Mzee wa sumu umechanganyikiwa teh teh teh. Rwanda is hosting refugees while Rwanda itself ha lots of refugees running to neighboring countries?

 

[MOTOCHINI]

Ameshajizungumzia hapo kuwa term mbili ni kwa wale viongozi ambao wameshindwa ku-deliver. Kagame,yeye anaajiaminisha kuwa ame-deliver na kwa hivyo term limit haimfungi. Msome vizuri amesema nini.

Nimemshoma ndugu ndio maana nikasema yeye amzungu mzie mwenzie nshu itahamia kwake nayeye

 

[jMali]

ingekuwa hivyo marekani na canda wangekuwa na viongozi wale wale tu maana hamna siku walilala njaa, wana barabara nzuri, huduma nzuri za afya, teknolojia...:becky:

 

[666 chata]

Warundi ni waoga na wajinga sana, sasa si kuna ballot of secret? wapige kura tu, wamchague mwingine..

 

[white wizard]

Warundi ni waoga na wajinga sana, sasa si kuna ballot of secret? wapige kura tu, wamchague mwingine..

we mkuu hivi unajua tume ya uchaguzi ya Burundi inaundwa na kina nani?? wote ni wateule wa rais unategemea kuna jipya hapo, mfano mdogo tu hapa kwetu, mwenyekiti huyu wa tume kutoa tu utaratibu wa uandikishaji au hizo BVR, ni shida hadi apate maelekezo toka juu, kisheria tu aliyekuwa na mamlaka ya kutangaza tarehe ya kura ya maoni ni yeye, je ni yeye alitangaza ile 30/4???.Tume nyingi za uchaguzi Africa ni shidaaa na ndio vyanzo vya migogoro. Eti waende kwenye Ballot box!!!!! ???

 

[Maswala]

kama mnafikiri vizuri, aliyemfanyia Kagema interview alilenga kuua ndege zaidi ya wawili kwa jiwe moja.

Kwanza kwa vyovyote vile jibu la PK lazima liwe na pande mbili, moja msimamo juu ya Burundi; na pili ni reflection ya msimamo huo kwa PK na Rwanda yake.

Jibu la Kagane lina maanisha:
1. Katiba ya Nchi si kitu cha muhimu
2. Nkurunziza (muhutu?) hajafanya vema,
3. Wananchi humkataa mtu kwa kigezo cha ubora wa utendaji wake, kuliko matakwa ya katiba
4. Maandamani dhidi ya serikali ni ya kutokuridhika na utendaji wa serikali yao, kuliko serikali inayofanya vizuri hata km haizingatii matakwa ya kikatiba
5. Kuwa rais aweza kudumu milele as long as anafanya vizuri.
6. Rwanda iko tayari kumpima kazi yake, na kumpatia nafasi nyingine kutokana ufanis wake!

Hata hivyo, lazima tujiulize nini vigezo vya mafanikio?
1. Mafanikio lazima yawe ya kudumu
2. Uhuru na mawazio
3. Utulivu na amani
4. Uchumi unaokua
5. Wananchi na viongozi wenye fikra pevua, wanaheshimu tofauti za milengo yao kushindana kwa hoja
6. Watu walionolewa kuiongoza nchi hata ka raisi hayupo, n.k.

Sasa kama sidhani km kwa vigezo hIvyo hapo juu, landa PK kafanikiwa zaidi kiuchumi na kurejesha amani kwa kiasi fulani nchini mwake. Lakini mambo mengine ninachelea kusema.

 

[Bongolander]

What makes u so sure?

Because a cat, regardless of it's color, in front of a mouse it will behave in the same way.

 

[nyumba kubwa]

Na anasahau kuwa once upon a time Mseven alikuwa kinara cha ufanisi EA...lakini leo Uganda ina nini?

Ajiulizi kwa nini Mayweather ameamua kustaafu ...anajua akiendelea ataishia kudundwa kama Tyson.

kama mnafikiri vizuri, aliyemfanyia Kagema interview alilenga kuua ndege zaidi ya wawili kwa jiwe moja.

Kwanza kwa vyovyote vile jibu la PK lazima liwe na pande mbili, moja msimamo juu ya Burundi; na pili ni reflection ya msimamo huo kwa PK na Rwanda yake.

Jibu la Kagane lina maanisha:
1. Katiba ya Nchi si kitu cha muhimu
2. Nkurunziza (muhutu?) hajafanya vema,
3. Wananchi humkataa mtu kwa kigezo cha ubora wa utendaji wake, kuliko matakwa ya katiba
4. Maandamani dhidi ya serikali ni ya kutokuridhika na utendaji wa serikali yao, kuliko serikali inayofanya vizuri hata km haizingatii matakwa ya kikatiba
5. Kuwa rais aweza kudumu milele as long as anafanya vizuri.
6. Rwanda iko tayari kumpima kazi yake, na kumpatia nafasi nyingine kutokana ufanis wake!

Hata hivyo, lazima tujiulize nini vigezo vya mafanikio?
1. Mafanikio lazima yawe ya kudumu
2. Uhuru na mawazio
3. Utulivu na amani
4. Uchumi unaokua
5. Wananchi na viongozi wenye fikra pevua, wanaheshimu tofauti za milengo yao kushindana kwa hoja
6. Watu walionolewa kuiongoza nchi hata ka raisi hayupo, n.k.

Sasa kama sidhani km kwa vigezo hIvyo hapo juu, landa PK kafanikiwa zaidi kiuchumi na kurejesha amani kwa kiasi fulani nchini mwake. Lakini mambo mengine ninachelea kusema.

 

[nyumba kubwa]

How can you say wamesema hawamtaki? where did they say that? They have two platforms to say that. One is constitution, the second is ballot box. Katiba haijamkataza, kura hazijapigwa. Cha kufanya kwa sasa kwa warundi kama hawamtaki wamwambie kwenye kura.

Vurugu zinazotokea Burundi ni ujinga.

Ila siyo siri ishu ya Burundi ina utata...
Katiba haijavunjwa...na kama walitaka miaka 10 iwe mwisho no matter what basi walibugi pale Arusha kutoweka wazi...

Na kingine nani anayejua hao wanaoandamana hasa ni kina nani...isije kuwa ni wana harakati na upinzani ambao wana claim kuongea kwa niaba ya wananchi wa kawaida...

Ni shidaaa!

 

[Al Watani]

I for one, with due respect to Kagame, I have my take on the matter in question:

Well, as true as it is. It matters the most when a leader delivers much of his or her best to people.

But, wait a minute, on constitutional term limit? Not on our very own African soil.

As far as African politics is concerned, unless you have a third eye, with only two, you would not understand these politicians with their polytricks.

That said, it speaks volumes of how grudge they are.

I smell something fishy.

Someone, somewhere is self proclaiming to have delivered much to his people, thus deserves no term limit.

I can get the matter right that Kagame was not commenting on the presidential issue in Burundi but was merely defending and justifying his third presidential term.

by the way African politics is all about corruption and constitutional violations on leadership term limits, not delivery as kagame puports , what kind of delivery does he mean? is it killing opposition leaders or deceiving the ignorant masses with stones while telling them are breads
I think he needs his head to be examined.

 

[Al Watani]

we mkuu hivi unajua tume ya uchaguzi ya Burundi inaundwa na kina nani?? wote ni wateule wa rais unategemea kuna jipya hapo, mfano mdogo tu hapa kwetu, mwenyekiti huyu wa tume kutoa tu utaratibu wa uandikishaji au hizo BVR, ni shida hadi apate maelekezo toka juu, kisheria tu aliyekuwa na mamlaka ya kutangaza tarehe ya kura ya maoni ni yeye, je ni yeye alitangaza ile 30/4???.Tume nyingi za uchaguzi Africa ni shidaaa na ndio vyanzo vya migogoro. Eti waende kwenye Ballot box!!!!! ???

you said it right kwa Afrika wananchi kutegemea ballot box ni kujidanganya kwa sababu watu tunakwenda kupiga kura tayari kura zilishahesabiwa siku nyingi tu na mshindi anajulikana, kwenda kwetu kwenye uchaguzi ni danganya toto Tume za uchaguzi ziko fettered hazina kazi yoyote in fact they are symbolic legal creatures with no ipso facto legal authority.

 

[Hardwood]

Thank you for your comments!!! You are very right Sir! Mr Kagame's comments implicates that he is eligible for a third term simply because he has delivered more to Rwandese and thus constitutional term limit may not apply to him!

Clearly, there is another bomb coming to explode in the Great Lake Zone. Kagame will use the pretext of "delivering more to his people" to cling to power in Rwanda. This is simple projection but time will tell exactly what Kagaeme's comments imply.

I for one, with due respect to Kagame, I have my take on the matter in question:

Well, as true as it is. It matters the most when a leader delivers much of his or her best to people.

But, wait a minute, on constitutional term limit? Not on our very own African soil.

As far as African politics is concerned, unless you have a third eye, with only two, you would not understand these politicians with their polytricks.

That said, it speaks volumes of how grudge they are.

I smell something fishy.

Someone, somewhere is self proclaiming to have delivered much to his people, thus deserves no term limit.

 

[rushasha]

I for one, with due respect to Kagame, I have my take on the matter in question:

Well, as true as it is. It matters the most when a leader delivers much of his or her best to people.

But, wait a minute, on constitutional term limit? Not on our very own African soil.

As far as African politics is concerned, unless you have a third eye, with only two, you would not understand these politicians with their polytricks.

That said, it speaks volumes of how grudge they are.

I smell something fishy.

Someone, somewhere is self proclaiming to have delivered much to his people, thus deserves no term limit.

....I got you very well Sir; someone out there trying to justify his desire for "no term limit" just because he thinks that he has "delivered" to his citizens...

 

[Descartes]

Thank you for your comments!!! You are very right Sir! Mr Kagame's comments implicates that he is eligible for a third term simply because he has delivered more to Rwandese and thus constitutional term limit may not apply to him!

Clearly, there is another bomb coming to explode in the Great Lake Zone. Kagame will use the pretext of "delivering more to his people" to cling to power in Rwanda. This is simple projection but time will tell exactly what Kagaeme's comments imply.

Right on.

You got it right. You don't necessarily have to be an astrologer to foresee what is behind the scenes, Kagame himself,

is interested in abuse of constitutional term limit.

That is it. Typical glutton.

 

[Descartes]

....I got you very well Sir; someone out there trying to justify his desire for "no term limit" just because he thinks that he has "delivered" to his citizens...

Thanks.

I second that too. Truth be told.

 

[Descartes]

I can get the matter right that Kagame was not commenting on the presidential issue in Burundi but was merely defending and justifying his third presidential term.

by the way African politics is all about corruption and constitutional violations on leadership term limits, not delivery as kagame puports , what kind of delivery does he mean? is it killing opposition leaders or deceiving the ignorant masses with stones while telling them are breads
I think he needs his head to be examined.

As Africans, our politicians are a big let down so far. Having said that, we still have a long walk to reach a total freedom.

The white colonialists are said to be gone, only to find out that our leaders have swapped to be the blacks' colonizers.

 

[rushasha]

kama mnafikiri vizuri, aliyemfanyia Kagema interview alilenga kuua ndege zaidi ya wawili kwa jiwe moja.

Kwanza kwa vyovyote vile jibu la PK lazima liwe na pande mbili, moja msimamo juu ya Burundi; na pili ni reflection ya msimamo huo kwa PK na Rwanda yake.

Jibu la Kagane lina maanisha:
1. Katiba ya Nchi si kitu cha muhimu
2. Nkurunziza (muhutu?) hajafanya vema,
3. Wananchi humkataa mtu kwa kigezo cha ubora wa utendaji wake, kuliko matakwa ya katiba
4. Maandamani dhidi ya serikali ni ya kutokuridhika na utendaji wa serikali yao, kuliko serikali inayofanya vizuri hata km haizingatii matakwa ya kikatiba
5. Kuwa rais aweza kudumu milele as long as anafanya vizuri.
6. Rwanda iko tayari kumpima kazi yake, na kumpatia nafasi nyingine kutokana ufanis wake!

Hata hivyo, lazima tujiulize nini vigezo vya mafanikio?
1. Mafanikio lazima yawe ya kudumu
2. Uhuru na mawazio
3. Utulivu na amani
4. Uchumi unaokua
5. Wananchi na viongozi wenye fikra pevua, wanaheshimu tofauti za milengo yao kushindana kwa hoja
6. Watu walionolewa kuiongoza nchi hata ka raisi hayupo, n.k.

Sasa kama sidhani km kwa vigezo hIvyo hapo juu, landa PK kafanikiwa zaidi kiuchumi na kurejesha amani kwa kiasi fulani nchini mwake. Lakini mambo mengine ninachelea kusema.

...Ndugu hapo kwenye "red", hamna haja ya kuchelea kusema, sema kaka.....