Is Lamu Port Still Creadible?

Mwanzi1

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On one side Djibouti port, on the other Tanzania/Ethiopia logistic center, and now Somaliland port. Where does this leave Lamu port? mnasidikiza Tembo mweupe?

Ethiopia Eyes Role in DP World-Managed Port in Somaliland

Ethiopia is in talks to acquire shares in a joint venture involving
DP World Ltd. that will manage a port in northern Somalia, a Somali official said, a move that could give the fast-growing yet landlocked Horn of Africa economy its first stake in foreign docks.

Somaliland, a semi-autonomous territory that aspires to statehood, has agreed “in principle” to give Ethiopia a 19 percent share in the venture administering Berbera port, according to Foreign Minister Saad Ali Shire. Somaliland’s government and Dubai-based DP World, which has a 30-year concession to manage and develop the facility, will be the majority shareholders in Somaliland-registered DPW Berbera, he said in an interview.

If Ethiopia takes its share, Somaliland will hold 30 percent of the company, while DP World will have 51 percent, according to Shire. Berbera sits on the Gulf of Aden, a waterway that leads to the Red Sea and Suez Canal, and is also where Somaliland says the United Arab Emirates is leasing a military airport that may be expanded into a naval facility.

Ethiopia, Africa’s second-most populous nation, is pitching itself as an export-oriented manufacturing hub, with the International Monetary Fund forecasting economic growth of 7.5 percent this year, the fastest pace on the continent after Ivory Coast. Ethiopia’s transport and information ministers and Foreign Ministry spokesman didn’t respond to phone calls and text messages seeking comment on the Berbera share offer.

Share Structure
Shire said the venture is presently 65 percent owned by DP World, with Somaliland holding the rest, and nothing legally binding has yet been agreed with Ethiopia. DP World, which operates 78 terminals in 40 countries, announced it would hold 65 percent in the venture in September. It won’t comment on the share structure “for the time being,” spokesman Michael Vertigans said by email.

Shire said the Berbera facility will have a container terminal and be mainly used for container traffic as a transit hub for landlocked nations, particularly Ethiopia. Currently more than 90 percent of Ethiopia’s trade passes through another Red Sea neighbor, Djibouti, according to that country’s ports authority.

A new $4.2-billion, Chinese-built railway between Ethiopia and Djibouti is set to cut cargo-journey times to 12 hours, from three days by road. DP World has a 50-year concession to operate a container terminal in Djibouti, which the government unsuccessfully sought the rescission of at a London arbitration court, Dubai said in February.

Industrial Policy
Ethiopia’s industrial policy strategy sees the railway line transporting 7.5 million metric tons of cargo per year by 2020, and says one of the nation’s “major accomplishments” was its purchase of cargo ships that have enhanced the capacity of its maritime transport services. Somaliland is planning a 260-kilometer (162-mile) road from Berbera port to the Ethiopian border, according to Shire.

“A shareholding doesn’t necessarily mean recognition of Somaliland as a state,” said Mogus Tekle Michael, deputy director of the Ethiopian Foreign Relations Strategic Studies Institute and a former Foreign Ministry spokesman. Ethiopia would be “more than willing to grab any opportunity” to play a role in developing any port in the region, including Berbera, he said.

The planned U.A.E. military base in the Berbera area will “add value on the security side” to the use of Berbera port, Shire said. The use of Berbera, Somaliland’s only major harbor, to import materials for the construction of the U.A.E. facility is “just common sense,” he said. The U.A.E. hasn’t publicly commented on any of the plans for a base detailed by Shire.

DP World isn’t involved “in any way” with the base, “which is a matter for both governments,” Vertigans said.

Ethiopia Eyes Role in DP World-Managed Port in Somaliland
 

Geza Ulole

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The thing is while Kenya brags of all these nonsenses ati Ethiopia is to do this and that with Kenya, Ethiopia is busy signing lucrative deals with Djibouti and Somalia and until now Ethiopia has not committed to use Lamu port! If by the turn things is to go by Ethiopia is a serious quiet rival to Kenya that will shock Kenyans very soon
 

Geza Ulole

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Tihahahhaaaaa... si mnapenda fitina sana... You must be hermaphrodites you sorry Danganyikans... Hizo hormones za kimama hivi si za kawaida
leta hoja za ku-defend Lamu machungu yasikufanye kutukana Ethiopia mnayojitamba nayo ndio hiyo imeingia mkataba na DP World Somalilanda na ni nchi ya pili baada ya Djibouti kwa ajili ya matumizi ya bandari.
 

Mwanzi1

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The thing is while Kenya brags of all these nonsenses ati Ethiopia is to do this and that with Kenya, Ethiopia is busy signing lucrative deals with Djibouti and Somalia and until now Ethiopia has not committed to use Lamu port! If by the turn things is to go by Ethiopia is a serious quiet rival to Kenya that will shock Kenyans very soon
Yani, when you look at this, you can't help it to think were does Lamu fit in all this. Ethiopians hawataki kabisa kuwa under Nairobi's spell. Wakenya inabidi wafikirie upya what will they do with Lamu port, because Ethiopia hawawezi kutumia all 3 ports or 4 plus Dar labda wawe na economy growth 11-12%
 

MK254

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Yani, when you look at this, you can't help it to think were does Lamu fit in all this. Ethiopians hawataki kabisa kuwa under Nairobi's spell. Wakenya inabidi wafikirie upya what will they do with Lamu port, because Ethiopia hawawezi kutumia all 3 ports or 4 plus Dar labda wawe na economy growth 11-12%
Hehehe!! Napenda unavyotunisha misuli ya Dar hata mahali haina lolote, tumewashinda kwenye soko la EAC hata kwa mataifa ambayo hatuna mipaka nayo sasa nini kinawafanya muwaze kushindana na sisi kwenye soko la Ethiopia ambayo hata wengi wenu hamjui iko wapi kwenye ramani.
Tulia uone vitu vikijengwa...
 

BlietzKrieg

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Nonsense...
Mbona sijawahi patana na thread positive kuhusu KENYA kutoka kwa Watanzania?
 

kennedy0000

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Yani, when you look at this, you can't help it to think were does Lamu fit in all this. Ethiopians hawataki kabisa kuwa under Nairobi's spell. Wakenya inabidi wafikirie upya what will they do with Lamu port, because Ethiopia hawawezi kutumia all 3 ports or 4 plus Dar labda wawe na economy growth 11-12%
You think it is the government that imports?
Businessmen will use whatever port that serves them best. Ethiopian government can make deals with other governments, but at the end of the day it is businesspeople who will decide.
That's why even today some goods from northern Tanzania pass through Mombasa.
The same thing with the railway. Even if Ugandans were to decide today that they've abandoned the Kenyan line and gone with the Tanzanian line, that is not to say that businessmen will automatically switch to Tanzania. They might even find it cheaper to pick up their goods in Kisumu or one of those border towns and ferry them in trucks.
 

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leta hoja za ku-defend Lamu machungu yasikufanye kutukana Ethiopia mnayojitamba nayo ndio hiyo imeingia mkataba na DP World Somalilanda na ni nchi ya pili baada ya Djibouti kwa ajili ya matumizi ya bandari.
Serves you right.... You were cursed to always castigate anything Kenyan. I am Not surprised at all.... Hoja nenda katafute Baharini
 

Mwanzi1

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Hehehe!! Napenda unavyotunisha misuli ya Dar hata mahali haina lolote, tumewashinda kwenye soko la EAC hata kwa mataifa ambayo hatuna mipaka nayo sasa nini kinawafanya muwaze kushindana na sisi kwenye soko la Ethiopia ambayo hata wengi wenu hamjui iko wapi kwenye ramani.
Tulia uone vitu vikijengwa...
Naimani kubwa sasa hata wewe hauamini ulichokiandika.
 

Mwanzi1

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You think it is the government that imports?
Businessmen will use whatever port that serves them best. Ethiopian government can make deals with other governments, but at the end of the day it is businesspeople who will decide.
That's why even today some goods from northern Tanzania pass through Mombasa.
The same thing with the railway. Even if Ugandans were to decide today that they've abandoned the Kenyan line and gone with the Tanzanian line, that is not to say that businessmen will automatically switch to Tanzania. They might even find it cheaper to pick up their goods in Kisumu or one of those border towns and ferry them in trucks.
Ethiopia is still authoritarian country, gov oversee everything. Even USA can't penetrate on Ethiopian market, if it was that simple, Kenyans would've been in Ethiopia since 1900s (yeah, 1900s)
 

Mwanzi1

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creadible ndio mnyama yupi?
Mimi lishakuambia ukiona kosa rudi nyuma kabadilishe, khaa mtoto huna dogo..

MOD tafadhali tubadilishie heading isomeke CREDIBLE Maana wenye lugha yao wakenya wanagomba hapa.
 

MK254

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Naimani kubwa sasa hata wewe hauamini ulichokiandika.
Subiri uone tukinyakua hata Tanzania kanda ya ziwa pale SGR ikitua Kisumu. Na hata tukikawia kufikisha reli Malaba, wafanya biashara wa Uganda, Burundi, DRC na Rwanda watafuata mizigo yao Kisumu maana tunajenga bandari kubwa hapo.
Hata Tanzania kaskazini tunanyakua.
 

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Subiri uone tukinyakua hata Tanzania kanda ya ziwa pale SGR ikitua Kisumu. Na hata tukikawia kufikisha reli Malaba, wafanya biashara wa Uganda, Burundi, DRC na Rwanda watafuata mizigo yao Kisumu maana tunajenga bandari kubwa hapo.
Hata Tanzania kaskazini tunanyakua.
Makondoo yanajiaminishaga upumbavu, yaani nyie masoro kinouma ile mbaya hamjitambui akyanani mko kama watoto wanaosimama barabarani wakihesabu ndinga zinazopita huku wakisema ile ya mshua wangu
 

Mwanzi1

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Subiri uone tukinyakua hata Tanzania kanda ya ziwa pale SGR ikitua Kisumu. Na hata tukikawia kufikisha reli Malaba, wafanya biashara wa Uganda, Burundi, DRC na Rwanda watafuata mizigo yao Kisumu maana tunajenga bandari kubwa hapo.
Hata Tanzania kaskazini tunanyakua.
Haha, yani mkakati wa kuwamaliza nyie ni mdogo sana, tena sana. Tutawamaliza kwenye bei tuu, "race to zero". Huku mna mkopo na huku Tanzania anashusha bei mpaka bure. mtakuja wenyewe kutuomba samahani.
 

MK254

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Makondoo yanajiaminishaga upumbavu, yaani nyie masoro kinouma ile mbaya hamjitambui akyanani mko kama watoto wanaosimama barabarani wakihesabu ndinga zinazopita huku wakisema ile ya mshua wangu
Kha!! Wenyewe mlete mada ya kujitapa halafu mkijibiwa mnatokwa na povu na kutukana, hehehehe..... Mtajibiwa tu siku zote...
 

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