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Is circumcision permitted?

Discussion in 'Habari na Hoja mchanganyiko' started by MaxShimba, Jan 5, 2010.

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    MaxShimba JF-Expert Member

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    What I meant to say was, Is Circumcision permited in the Koran?

    There are clear verses in the Qur'an against circumcision (i.e. 95:4, 23:14, 27:88, 32:7, 80:17-19 & 4:119-120). The practice of this procedure is in violation of these Quranic and Allahic verses.

    So, now we have come to understand from the Qur'an that it is against the laws of Allah to be circumcised as exhibited in the above ayats.

    When the baby leaves his mother, he needs no cutting-off of any part of his body as Allah says He makes the baby in perfect form - a form that is best to function as a human. The foreskin serves many useful purposes and removing and stitching it causes life-long disadvantages.

    Satan pledges to make mankind manipulate Allah's creation, and gives the example of cutting off bits of the body (4:119-120). "Circumcision" is an outright manipulation of Allah's intended creation. A method Satan would use identified in the Qur'an to achieve his objectives is through the use of "fancy words" (6:112).

    None of the hadiths to do with circumcision differentiate between male or female 'circumcision' and there are hadiths that indicate females should also be circumcised: The hadith basis for male circumcision is the same basis for female circumcision! There is no reason to not circumcise girls if boys are.

    Quran does indicates whether its founder Marehemu Muham-mad was circumcised, but based on the above mentioned verses one can not be very wrong to conclude that he was not.

    Now my question is, if the Quran does not permit circumcision why do Muslims circumcise their young ones while knowing it is against the teaching of Quran?
     
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    MaxShimba JF-Expert Member

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    Inaruhusiwa kwa Wakristo pekee. Si unaona Korani imeshakataa katakata kwa Waislam. Poleni waislamu.
     
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    Mgerudi nyumbani muwaulize mama zenu na baba zenu kama wanaotairiwa ni waislam au wakristo?
    Mtaona wakristo wengi ndo wako na magovi, mama zenu ni mashahidi
     
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    MaxShimba JF-Expert Member

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    Kwani Koran inasemaje kuhusu kukatwa?
     
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    kwa nini hutaki ukweli

    hiyo aya ya 95:4 inasema 'We created man in the best design'-how can you claim circumcission is forbidden kwa hiyo aya. Kwa nini na kukata ndevu ama kucha isiwe forbidden ila iwe govi tu kwa mujibu ulivyotafsiri wewe?

    Hapa Biblia inasema usitahiri govi kwani circumcission is of the heart.

    [NIV: circumcision is circumcision of the heart], in the spirit

    That "circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter;" -- that the distinguishing mark of a true follower of Christ, of one who is in a state of acceptance with God, is not either outward circumcision, or baptism, or any other outward form, but a right state of soul, a mind and spirit renewed after the image of Him that created it; -- is one of those important truths that can only be spiritually discerned. And this the Apostle himself intimates in the next words, -- "Whose praise is not of men, but of God." As if he had said, "Expect not, whoever thou art, who thus followest thy great Master, that the world, the one who follow him not, will say, 'Well done, good and faithful servant!' Know that the circumcision of the heart, the seal of thy calling, is foolishness with the world. Be content to wait for thy applause till the day of thy Lord's appearing. In that day shalt thou have praise of God, in the great assembly of men and angels."

    Paulo huyo anawaambia fugeni magovi.

    Paulo huyohuyo amechuza watu wasioe wawe mkapera kama yeye na mapadri wa kikatoloki wakaingia mkenge na sasa wanatafuna watu na 'kutafunana' wenyewe kwa wenyewe. Yaani Mungu aliyewapa pipes amekosea mpaka zisitumike? matokeo pipes wanachomekea wasaidizi na waumini wao. Kule Boston mamilioni ya $$ yamelipwa kufidia walichomekwa.
     
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    maxi shimba kwani mwanzilishi wa kanisa lako la pentecoste charles parham anasemaje akitumia zipi zilizomenywa au zenye maganda kutolea majini na mapepo????
     
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    October JF-Expert Member

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    Mkuu umenena haswa!!

    Sasa Kama Moham-mad hakutairiwa, na kama Kolani haizungumzii lolote kuhusu kutahiriwa, inakuaje basi waisilamu watahiriwe? Kama wanafuata Hadith inakuaje basi waisilamu wa Tanzania wasiwatahiri wanawake kama waisilamu wenzao wa Uarabuni wanavyofanya?

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    Nina maswali yanayonisumbua.
    Ikiwa Mohammad ndio Moral Standard Ya Uisilamu, na ukizingatia kwamba Yeye mwenyewe hakutahiriwa, sasa inakuaje leo Waisilamu wanatairiwa?

    Ikiwa Mohamad aliruhusu tohara kwa wanawake Je inakuaje leo Waisilamu wa Tanzania hawafuati hii sunnah ya mtume wao?
     
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    Umetupata kweli Waislamu unastahili tuzo!
     
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