Eti Rwanda inafaidi maliasili ya Kongo!

[Koba]

Mmeshaumbuka na propaganda zenu zisizo na mashiko!

Verify hii scenario:
Before genocide tutsi were 14% of 7,000,000; that is 980,000 in total. During genocide it is said more than 600,000 of you (tutsi) perished. Thibitisha kisha tueleze mlibaki wangapi? What everyone knows (except you - wahima) is that both ethinic groups were masacred in great number during the devilish 1994 genocide, where is the logic that the genocide be named "genocide against tutsi" instead of "genocide against Rwandans"?

Anayehoji mambo haya mnamwona ni tutsi hater!
Anayewashauri mnamwona ni tutsi hater!
Lt. Jenerali Nyamwasa, a tutsi - Former Chief of Staff & Chief Security Officer in Kagame govt (now in exile) is a tutsi hater!
Kanali Patrick Karegeya, a tutsi - Former Head of External Security in Kagame govt (now in exile) is a tutsi hater!
Francois-Xavier Nsanzuwera, a tutsi - Former Chief Justice (now in exile) is a tutsi hater
Luteni Abdul Ruzibiza, a tutsi (now in exile) is a tutsi hater!
Noble Marara, a tutsi -Kagame's ex-bodyguard (now in exile) is a tutsi hater! Just a few to mention.

Hamjengi hoja ili mueleweke, mnakimbilia kutoa povu na matusi!!! Mnamtukana hadi JK? The beast Kagame & Co. have lost credibility in the eyes of the international community.

Wow,what a bigot!

 

[RUTAJUMBUKIRWA]

kwahiyo kagame ana suppotiwa na watu watatu, watatu tu, wengine wapo upande mwingine, na bado mnataka na hao watatu wasiseme, ili mjadala uwe one-sided!!!!!!!!!!!!! mmmmmmh !

Kama Kagame ndiyo kawatuma Koba, Rutajumbukirwa, Elizabeth Dominic, nk. wamsafishe huyo tena basi, kwishner!! Mbona hoja zao ni mufilisi!!

 

[BekaNurdin]

kwahiyo kagame ana suppotiwa na watu watatu, watatu tu, wengine wapo upande mwingine, na bado mnataka na hao watatu wasiseme, ili mjadala uwe one-sided!!!!!!!!!!!!! mmmmmmh !

Imeandikwa Koba, Ruta.., Elizabeth Dom.., nk. Kwahiyo mko zaidi ya watatu. Huu ni mjadala, binafsi napenda uwe wa pande mbili ila ambacho huwa nasisitiza siku zote inapotolewa mada fulani; pande mbili zinazokinzana zipingane kwa hoja badala ya matusi kama mnavyofanya wewe na koba. Weka evidence ya kile unachoamini ni kweli ku-support hoja yako na wa upande mwingine vivyo hivyo. Mjadala usiwe uadui maana lengo ni kujuzana matatizo yanayozunguka jirani zetu, nchi zetu ili tujue wa/tulianguka wapi na wa/tujisahihishe kisha wa/tujenge amani ya kudumu yenye msingi wa upendo na kuheshimiana ili tusonge mbele kimaendeleo!

 

[cyberspace]

Mmeshaumbuka na propaganda zenu zisizo na mashiko!

Verify hii scenario:
Before genocide tutsi were 14% of 7,000,000; that is 980,000 in total. During genocide it is said more than 600,000 of you (tutsi) perished. Thibitisha kisha tueleze mlibaki wangapi? What everyone knows (except you - wahima) is that both ethinic groups were masacred in great number during the devilish 1994 genocide, where is the logic that the genocide be named "genocide against tutsi" instead of "genocide against Rwandans"?

Anayehoji mambo haya mnamwona ni tutsi hater!
Anayewashauri mnamwona ni tutsi hater!
Lt. Jenerali Nyamwasa, a tutsi - Former Chief of Staff & Chief Security Officer in Kagame govt (now in exile) is a tutsi hater!
Kanali Patrick Karegeya, a tutsi - Former Head of External Security in Kagame govt (now in exile) is a tutsi hater!
Francois-Xavier Nsanzuwera, a tutsi - Former Chief Justice (now in exile) is a tutsi hater
Luteni Abdul Ruzibiza, a tutsi (now in exile) is a tutsi hater!
Noble Marara, a tutsi -Kagame's ex-bodyguard (now in exile) is a tutsi hater! Just a few to mention.

Hamjengi hoja ili mueleweke, mnakimbilia kutoa povu na matusi!!! Mnamtukana hadi JK? The beast Kagame & Co. have lost credibility in the eyes of the international community.

Well said, you have nailed it.

 

[aminiusiamini]

kagame the princess,the iron man,skeleton general asiogope international community wala nani. nyinyi mbwa wake tell him avamie Tanzania tu. Aache vita ya maneno na maneno ya kike na mipasho. let him be the MAN.atoe kweli hasira zake juu yetu watanzania na kikwete. Naapa kwa jina la Mwenyezi Mungu niko mbali na nyumbani ila nitarudi kwenye nafasi yangu.
Mr kagame i want to tell you we will eat your bones before international community and we will record you.

i hate you to the fullest and i hope one day i will get a chance to be a part of assignment to kill you sir. i pray the day to come mr president.

The Rwanda people should be free from this cancer once again.

 

[murutongore]

I have been reading JF from afar lakini sasa nimeona kuwa if you want change be proactive no a spectator. For the past month or so nimeona comments nyingi kuhusu Kagame and the majority are hatred towards him. kuna msemo usemao " if majority of people hate/envy you then you must be doing something right". lakini vile vile nikisoma contents ya comments nyingi it shows that most of you are getting information from google....that is not the way to prove your point. Unajua watanzania wengi hawajui historia ya Rwanda. First of all if we did a poll here of all of you Kagame haters, 80% of you were less than 20yrs old in 1994. Thats right. You have no knowledge of the background of rwanda sana sana ni information you pick here and there from the net and then you qualify yourselves as experts on Rwandan history. Another thing that I have noticed is RWANDAFOBIA. This Rwandafobia is growing and i think if it is not addressed it will breed insecurity and this can be seen in most of the comments. There is talk of HIMA EMPIRE (lol) Hima Empire is a lot of bullshit and it just shows how insecure Tanzanians are because I have never read anywhere Kenyans mentioning Hima Empire. Its because they are confident in themselves and have no worries of this so called imaginary Hima Empire. I have never heard Congolese mentioning this imaginary Hima Empire. So lets ask ourselves, why is this only mentioned in Tanzania? U can fill in the blanks. I hear this that Rwandese wanajidai, wana kiburi, wanajiona wazuri,....these are very light comments...more of a jilted lover that a great thinker...kwa hiyo wote hawa wanaotoa comments kama hizi most likely met a rwandese girl akamtongoza mshichana akamkataa basi akachukulia kuwa hiyo ni sababu tosha ya kuwachukia wanyarwanda wote. kuna true story moja ya msichana mmoja wa kinyarwanda mzaliwa wa tanzania alitongozwa na afisa uhamiaji na huyo msichana alikuwa bado mwanafunzi alipomkatalia jamaa kwa sababu hakutaka kuolewa basi jamaa akaanza kunyanyasa familia yake mpaka wakarudishwa rwanda japokuwa wazazi wake walikuwa raia wa tanzania(pathetic mentality).

If I were to ask every on here why they hate rwandese you will be surprised of their reasons!!! Lakini what I want to assure you tanzanians....KAGAME IS GOING NOWHERE because he is an elected president of Rwanda just like Kikwete although I don't see what Kikwete has done for you except for being the only president in the wold who holds two portifolios 1.President 2. Minister of Foreign Affairs. so go figure.

Haya mambo ya sijui Kagame anapora mali za Congo is another bullshit. Hivi Congo hawana askari wao mpakani? Hivi tujiulize Wanyarwanda wanaweza kuingia tanzania wakafika kahama wakaanza kuchimba madini huku tanzania ikiwa inaangalia? It just doesn't make sense. For you information watu wanaoiibia Congo madini mengi ni MONUSCO.

So my advice to Tanzania. RELAX. BE CONFIDENT. DON'T FEAR RWANDESE BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN YOUR COUNTRY. WAO WANACHANJA MBUGA KIMAENDELEO HUKU NYIE MKIENDELEA KUPIGA GUMZO TU. NA KUJIVUNIA UJIO WA OBAMA. ITS NOT LIKE OBAMA AKIJA MATATIZO YENU YOTE YATAISHA. KESHOKUTWA AKIONDOKA TU. MTABAKI MNALIA NA GHARAMA MLIZOTUMIA KUMLINDA NA KUMKARIBISHA NA ATAKAEUMIA SANA NI MTANZANIA MASKINI ATAKAE KOSA DAWA KWASABABU HELA YA WIZARA YA AFYA IMEDOKOLEWA ILI KUTENGENEZA MABANGO NA T-SHIRT ZA KUMKARIBISHA OBAMA. VERY SAD.

 

[Lukolo]

Katika waraka wake wa kibaguzi na chuki, gun for hire au attack dog Christopher Mtikila alisema kuwa museveni na kagame wanaiba maliasili kongo. na wa jf hapa wengi wanaamini hivo. Siku zote ukitaka uongo uwe ukweli, urudierudie utakuwa ukweli. hivi kweli kongo ikiwa na maliasili watu wake watakuwa masikini? nchi ni maskini ila wezi wanaoiba tena sehemu ndogo ndo wanafaidi? hivi kama si propaganda ni nini? jeshi la Rwanda na Uganda lina mitambo ya kwenda chini ya ardhi? au wanaokota madini kama nyoka wa arusha? mbona congo haijatumia utajiri wake? hii yote ni propaganda! period. eti jeshi la Rwanda ni imara kwasababu ya utajiri wa kongo! mbona jeshi la kongo halijatumia huo utajiri kujiimarisha. na wanasema Rwanda inaiba utajiri wa kivu mashariki, hivi kongo yenye utajiri wa nchi nzima, li nchi liliovo likubwa, mbona haifaidi? Anayefaidi ni mzungu anayekwenda chini ya ardhi, sio mwafrica!

Ingeshangaza sana kama wewe Mnyarwanda ungeandika kwamba kweli Rwanda inafaidi madini na magogo kutoka Congo. Kila mtu angekucheka. Ingekuwa ni ajabu kwa mwizi kukiri kwamba anaiba.

Ni ukweli ulio wazi usio na hata chenga kwamba wanajeshi wa Rwanda na uganda kwa kushirikiana na waasi wa Congo, wanaiba madini (almasi pamoja na magogo) kwa kubadilishana na silaha. Jeshi la Rwanda ndiyo linalowapelekea silaha waasi wa congo, hili lipo wazi wala halihitaji mjadala.

Mfano wa kwamba kwanini Congo yenyewe ni masikini ni mfano dhaifu sana, usio na manitiki. Kwani wakati ule Jonasi Savimbi wa Angola alipokuwa anaiba dhahabu na kuwauzia wamarekani ili yeye kupata silaha na kupigana na jeshi la serikali, Angola ilikuwa tajiri? Unataka tuulize ni kwanini Angola haikuitumia dhahabu yake ili kujineemesha? Unajua Tanzania ina rasilimali ngapi? Hivi unajua kwamba kuna Majangili wa Kinyarwanda na Kenya ambao wanaua tembo nchini Tanzania na kupata mamilioni ya shilingi kutokana na kuuza pembe za tembo zinazotoka Tanzania huku serikali ya Tanzania ikiwa haifaidi hata senti moja kutokana na tembo wake?

Hebu andika kisomi na wewe, usituletee story za vijiweni hapa. Kagame na Mseveni ni wezi wakubwa wa rasilimali za Congo, na ushahidi wa magogo ambayo Mseveni amekuwa akisafirisha kutokea Congo upo. Usilete ubishi usiokuwa na maana.

 

[murutongore]

Ingeshangaza sana kama wewe Mnyarwanda ungeandika kwamba kweli Rwanda inafaidi madini na magogo kutoka Congo. Kila mtu angekucheka. Ingekuwa ni ajabu kwa mwizi kukiri kwamba anaiba.

Ni ukweli ulio wazi usio na hata chenga kwamba wanajeshi wa Rwanda na uganda kwa kushirikiana na waasi wa Congo, wanaiba madini (almasi pamoja na magogo) kwa kubadilishana na silaha. Jeshi la Rwanda ndiyo linalowapelekea silaha waasi wa congo, hili lipo wazi wala halihitaji mjadala.

Mfano wa kwamba kwanini Congo yenyewe ni masikini ni mfano dhaifu sana, usio na manitiki. Kwani wakati ule Jonasi Savimbi wa Angola alipokuwa anaiba dhahabu na kuwauzia wamarekani ili yeye kupata silaha na kupigana na jeshi la serikali, Angola ilikuwa tajiri? Unataka tuulize ni kwanini Angola haikuitumia dhahabu yake ili kujineemesha? Unajua Tanzania ina rasilimali ngapi? Hivi unajua kwamba kuna Majangili wa Kinyarwanda na Kenya ambao wanaua tembo nchini Tanzania na kupata mamilioni ya shilingi kutokana na kuuza pembe za tembo zinazotoka Tanzania huku serikali ya Tanzania ikiwa haifaidi hata senti moja kutokana na tembo wake?

Hebu andika kisomi na wewe, usituletee story za vijiweni hapa. Kagame na Mseveni ni wezi wakubwa wa rasilimali za Congo, na ushahidi wa magogo ambayo Mseveni amekuwa akisafirisha kutokea Congo upo. Usilete ubishi usiokuwa na maana.

hahahaha....wewe umefilisika kimawazo...sikujua kama huyo katibu mkuu wenu ni mnyarwanda...kweli nyani haoni kundule...

 

[Lukolo]

I have been reading JF from afar lakini sasa nimeona kuwa if you want change be proactive no a spectator. For the past month or so nimeona comments nyingi kuhusu Kagame and the majority are hatred towards him. kuna msemo usemao " if majority of people hate/envy you then you must be doing something right". lakini vile vile nikisoma contents ya comments nyingi it shows that most of you are getting information from google....that is not the way to prove your point. Unajua watanzania wengi hawajui historia ya Rwanda. First of all if we did a poll here of all of you Kagame haters, 80% of you were less than 20yrs old in 1994. Thats right. You have no knowledge of the background of rwanda sana sana ni information you pick here and there from the net and then you qualify yourselves as experts on Rwandan history. Another thing that I have noticed is RWANDAFOBIA. This Rwandafobia is growing and i think if it is not addressed it will breed insecurity and this can be seen in most of the comments. There is talk of HIMA EMPIRE (lol) Hima Empire is a lot of bullshit and it just shows how insecure Tanzanians are because I have never read anywhere Kenyans mentioning Hima Empire. Its because they are confident in themselves and have no worries of this so called imaginary Hima Empire. I have never heard Congolese mentioning this imaginary Hima Empire. So lets ask ourselves, why is this only mentioned in Tanzania? U can fill in the blanks. I hear this that Rwandese wanajidai, wana kiburi, wanajiona wazuri,....these are very light comments...more of a jilted lover that a great thinker...kwa hiyo wote hawa wanaotoa comments kama hizi most likely met a rwandese girl akamtongoza mshichana akamkataa basi akachukulia kuwa hiyo ni sababu tosha ya kuwachukia wanyarwanda wote. kuna true story moja ya msichana mmoja wa kinyarwanda mzaliwa wa tanzania alitongozwa na afisa uhamiaji na huyo msichana alikuwa bado mwanafunzi alipomkatalia jamaa kwa sababu hakutaka kuolewa basi jamaa akaanza kunyanyasa familia yake mpaka wakarudishwa rwanda japokuwa wazazi wake walikuwa raia wa tanzania(pathetic mentality).

If I were to ask every on here why they hate rwandese you will be surprised of their reasons!!! Lakini what I want to assure you tanzanians....KAGAME IS GOING NOWHERE because he is an elected president of Rwanda just like Kikwete although I don't see what Kikwete has done for you except for being the only president in the wold who holds two portifolios 1.President 2. Minister of Foreign Affairs. so go figure.

Haya mambo ya sijui Kagame anapora mali za Congo is another bullshit. Hivi Congo hawana askari wao mpakani? Hivi tujiulize Wanyarwanda wanaweza kuingia tanzania wakafika kahama wakaanza kuchimba madini huku tanzania ikiwa inaangalia? It just doesn't make sense. For you information watu wanaoiibia Congo madini mengi ni MONUSCO.

So my advice to Tanzania. RELAX. BE CONFIDENT. DON'T FEAR RWANDESE BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN YOUR COUNTRY. WAO WANACHANJA MBUGA KIMAENDELEO HUKU NYIE MKIENDELEA KUPIGA GUMZO TU. NA KUJIVUNIA UJIO WA OBAMA. ITS NOT LIKE OBAMA AKIJA MATATIZO YENU YOTE YATAISHA. KESHOKUTWA AKIONDOKA TU. MTABAKI MNALIA NA GHARAMA MLIZOTUMIA KUMLINDA NA KUMKARIBISHA NA ATAKAEUMIA SANA NI MTANZANIA MASKINI ATAKAE KOSA DAWA KWASABABU HELA YA WIZARA YA AFYA IMEDOKOLEWA ILI KUTENGENEZA MABANGO NA T-SHIRT ZA KUMKARIBISHA OBAMA. VERY SAD.

There has never been hatreds between Tanzanians and Rwandans! By the way majority of you Rwandans have grown in Tanzania, educated in Tanzania since 1994, we know you very well as friends and relatives.

Some of your sisters got married in Tanzania and some of your brothers asked for the citizenship of Tanzania and are holding potential positions in the government. The only reason why there are currently tensions between Rwanda and Tanzania is the Kagame's statement against Kikwete's advice over the reconciliation with the rebellions in Congo, which to majority of Tanzanians, Kikwete was right, but the reaction from Kagame and majority of Rwandans was bitter and too aggressive over Kikwete. This led to what majority of you think that Tanzanians are hating the Rwandans. I don't think so, and I don't want to allow the differences of our leaders to affect our brotherhood.

Regarding the thefts of resources from Rwanda particularly the logs and diamonds, it is not the Tanzanians or Mtikila who said this for the first time. It is every where, you will get the information from all news papers around the world. Its amazing that when the Tanzanians say the same thing other people are saying including some of the Ugandans and Rwandans, are strongly criticized while other medias are left to perpetuate the rumors. Be balanced dear Rwandans.

Don't allow this biases and unnecessary conflicts with Tanzanians, you better try to defend your points without raising a tension between us. Kenya is very far from Rwanda, so it may not be a good example for the current discussion between Tanzania and Rwanda. However, I would argue for the two countries to hold a talk to clear these increasing differences and hatreds between their people, which are now threatening our brotherhood and sisterhood.

 

[Lukolo]

hahahaha....wewe umefilisika kimawazo...sikujua kama huyo katibu mkuu wenu ni mnyarwanda...kweli nyani haoni kundule...

Well inawezekana siyo mnyarwanda, lakini pia siyo mtanzania. So ni wageni ndiyo wanatuibia. However, the point here ni kwamba its possible kwa mgeni kuiba na wenyeji msifaidike. kama ambavyo sisi tunaibiwa na hata Savimbi aliwaibia wana Angola.

 

[murutongore]

There has never been hatreds between Tanzanians and Rwandans! By the way majority of you Rwandans have grown in Tanzania, educated in Tanzania since 1994, we know you very well as friends and relatives.

Some of your sisters got married in Tanzania and some of your brothers asked for the citizenship of Tanzania and are holding potential positions in the government. The only reason why there are currently tensions between Rwanda and Tanzania is the Kagame's statement against Kikwete's advice over the reconciliation with the rebellions in Congo, which to majority of Tanzanians, Kikwete was right, but the reaction from Kagame and majority of Rwandans was bitter and too aggressive over Kikwete. This led to what majority of you think that Tanzanians are hating the Rwandans. I don't think so, and I don't want to allow the differences of our leaders to affect our brotherhood.

Regarding the thefts of resources from Rwanda particularly the logs and diamonds, it is not the Tanzanians or Mtikila who said this for the first time. It is every where, you will get the information from all news papers around the world. Its amazing that when the Tanzanians say the same thing other people are saying including some of the Ugandans and Rwandans, are strongly criticized while other medias are left to perpetuate the rumors. Be balanced dear Rwandans.

Don't allow this biases and unnecessary conflicts with Tanzanians, you better try to defend your points without raising a tension between us. Kenya is very far from Rwanda, so it may not be a good example for the current discussion between Tanzania and Rwanda. However, I would argue for the two countries to hold a talk to clear these increasing differences and hatreds between their people, which are now threatening our brotherhood and sisterhood.

According to you KAGAME haters, you say that HIMA empire is composed of Rwanda and Uganda. So in that regard, Uganda is next to Kenya just as Rwanda is next to Tanzania. Mbona sijawahi kusikia Wakenya wakilalamika kuhusu Hima Empire? Tanzanians are becoming paranoid..juzi juzi kagame,museveni na kenyatta wamekutana kujadiliana jinsi ya kuboresha the northern corridor watanzania wamekuja juu eti kwa nini kikwete hakualikwa...kwani tanzania iko kwenye northern corridor? NO. again inaonyesha jinsi watanzania wasivyojiamini...be confident guys...confidence is everything...

 

[murutongore]

Well inawezekana siyo mnyarwanda, lakini pia siyo mtanzania. So ni wageni ndiyo wanatuibia. However, the point here ni kwamba its possible kwa mgeni kuiba na wenyeji msifaidike. kama ambavyo sisi tunaibiwa na hata Savimbi aliwaibia wana Angola.

sasa kagame au wanyarwanda wanahusikaje na huo ujangili? call a spade a spade and not a big spoon...for your information kuna sehemu nimesoma kuwa huu mkutano wa entebbe kati ya kagame,museveni na kenyatta kagame alisita kwenda kwa sababu alitaka jk awepo..ukisoma utagundua kuwa alifika pale siku ya mwisho ya mkutano...is that someone who hates tanzanian?

 

[Lukolo]

According to you KAGAME haters, you say that HIMA empire is composed of Rwanda and Uganda. So in that regard, Uganda is next to Kenya just as Rwanda is next to Tanzania. Mbona sijawahi kusikia Wakenya wakilalamika kuhusu Hima Empire? Tanzanians are becoming paranoid..juzi juzi kagame,museveni na kenyatta wamekutana kujadiliana jinsi ya kuboresha the northern corridor watanzania wamekuja juu eti kwa nini kikwete hakualikwa...kwani tanzania iko kwenye northern corridor? NO. again inaonyesha jinsi watanzania wasivyojiamini...be confident guys...confidence is everything...

When was your first time to know that Tanzanians are Kagame haters? Dont be silly man! Think aloud, there has never been a time when Tanzanians were hating the Rwandans or Kagame. Only after the difference with Kikwete over the rebellions in Congo is when all these raised. Why cant we focus on the source of the problem rather than beating around the problem. Why do we want to perpetuate these hatreds, only because the big boys are not in good terms?

Regarding the theft of minerals and the interests of Rwanda and Uganda in Congo, its not Tanzanians who are saying that, its written everywhere. Its not Mtikila who started it, it has been there for decades. And you should know that Tanzanians are good at reading, and therefore they read all these things from different world's medias. You better agree and understand the position of your country in its involvement in Congo. What is the interest of Rwanda and Uganda in Congo, and why for years the conflicts is not ending? What are the Rwandans and Ugandans soldiers doing in Congo if at all there is no resolutions being reached?

Find more evidences on the link below on how Rwanda and Uganda have been fueling the conflicts in Congo instead of working it out. AFP: Rwanda, Uganda helped DR Congo rebel offensive: UN experts. Be strong man, call a spade, spade and not a big spoon. Not because your country is involved in the conflict, then you be-blind yourself to avoid seeing the truth.

 

[Tutafika]

Katika waraka wake wa kibaguzi na chuki, gun for hire au attack dog Christopher Mtikila alisema kuwa museveni na kagame wanaiba maliasili kongo. na wa jf hapa wengi wanaamini hivo. Siku zote ukitaka uongo uwe ukweli, urudierudie utakuwa ukweli. hivi kweli kongo ikiwa na maliasili watu wake watakuwa masikini? nchi ni maskini ila wezi wanaoiba tena sehemu ndogo ndo wanafaidi? hivi kama si propaganda ni nini? jeshi la Rwanda na Uganda lina mitambo ya kwenda chini ya ardhi? au wanaokota madini kama nyoka wa arusha? mbona congo haijatumia utajiri wake? hii yote ni propaganda! period. eti jeshi la Rwanda ni imara kwasababu ya utajiri wa kongo! mbona jeshi la kongo halijatumia huo utajiri kujiimarisha. na wanasema Rwanda inaiba utajiri wa kivu mashariki, hivi kongo yenye utajiri wa nchi nzima, li nchi liliovo likubwa, mbona haifaidi? Anayefaidi ni mzungu anayekwenda chini ya ardhi, sio mwafrica!

Tafadhari Moderators, Invisible na kundi lako, tunaomba hizi hizi mada zinazofanana za huyu jamaa ziunganishwe! Kimsingi anaongelea kitu kile kile (Kagame, Tutsi na waraka wa Mtikila). Itapendeza zaidi, ikiwezekana mtuletee upya mada original ya waraka wa Mtikila ili uwe mwendelezo. Natambua ni kazi kubwa, lakini kuna umuhimu sana wa kuifanya!

Natanguliza Shukurani

 

[murutongore]

When was your first time to know that Tanzanians are Kagame haters? Dont be silly man! Think aloud, there has never been a time when Tanzanians were hating the Rwandans or Kagame. Only after the difference with Kikwete over the rebellions in Congo is when all these raised. Why cant we focus on the source of the problem rather than beating around the problem. Why do we want to perpetuate these hatreds, only because the big boys are not in good terms?

Regarding the theft of minerals and the interests of Rwanda and Uganda in Congo, its not Tanzanians who are saying that, its written everywhere. Its not Mtikila who started it, it has been there for decades. And you should know that Tanzanians are good at reading, and therefore they read all these things from different world's medias. You better agree and understand the position of your country in its involvement in Congo. What is the interest of Rwanda and Uganda in Congo, and why for years the conflicts is not ending? What are the Rwandans and Ugandans soldiers doing in Congo if at all there is no resolutions being reached?

Find more evidences on the link below on how Rwanda and Uganda have been fueling the conflicts in Congo instead of working it out. AFP: Rwanda, Uganda helped DR Congo rebel offensive: UN experts. Be strong man, call a spade, spade and not a big spoon. Not because your country is involved in the conflict, then you be-blind yourself to avoid seeing the truth.

The position of my country is this. NEVER WILL THERE BE ANY REFUGEES LEAVING RWANDA BECAUSE OF WAR. ALSO NEVER WILL ANY WAR BE FOUGHT WITHIN RWANDAN BORDERS. So in that sense, any person harboring any thought of exterminating tutsis or hutus will be delt with anywhere they are whether inside rwanda or outside. by any means necessary. ndio maana watu hawaelewi FDLR..FDLR wamebaki wachache sana na hawa ideology yao ni moja tu...all tutsis should be wiped off the face of the earth. hawataki mambo ya negotiations. sasa watu hao unawafanyaje? kama kagame angekuwa na nia mbaya nao i tell you they would have been history by now. lakini that is not his agenda he want the leaders of fdlr to denounce their ideology warudi rwanda wajiunge na wanyarwanda wenzao katika kujenga taifa lisilo bagua. do you know that kagame has introduced programs like universal health care...wanyarwanda wote wana bima ya afya? hata hao wahutu mnaosema ni 80%...for your information hao wahutu mnaosema wamekandamizwa ndio wanaofaidi na programs kama hizo kwa hiyo wao hawana habari na mnayosema wanafanya mambo ya maendeleo...ni interahamwe ambao hawataki kuishi kwa amani na wako wengi sana tanzania ndio wanaowaingizia nyie watanzania fikra za kuwachukia wanyarwanda ili wapate hifandhi na sehemu ya kuingilia manake kupitia congo wameshindwa sasa wanahamia tanzania na wanatafuta sympathy yenu ili waweze kufanikiwa na agenda yao....of which is impossible.

 

[Lukolo]

The position of my country is this. NEVER WILL THERE BE ANY REFUGEES LEAVING RWANDA BECAUSE OF WAR. ALSO NEVER WILL ANY WAR BE FOUGHT WITHIN RWANDAN BORDERS. So in that sense, any person harboring any thought of exterminating tutsis or hutus will be delt with anywhere they are whether inside rwanda or outside. by any means necessary. ndio maana watu hawaelewi FDLR..FDLR wamebaki wachache sana na hawa ideology yao ni moja tu...all tutsis should be wiped off the face of the earth. hawataki mambo ya negotiations. sasa watu hao unawafanyaje? kama kagame angekuwa na nia mbaya nao i tell you they would have been history by now. lakini that is not his agenda he want the leaders of fdlr to denounce their ideology warudi rwanda wajiunge na wanyarwanda wenzao katika kujenga taifa lisilo bagua. do you know that kagame has introduced programs like universal health care...wanyarwanda wote wana bima ya afya? hata hao wahutu mnaosema ni 80%...for your information hao wahutu mnaosema wamekandamizwa ndio wanaofaidi na programs kama hizo kwa hiyo wao hawana habari na mnayosema wanafanya mambo ya maendeleo...ni interahamwe ambao hawataki kuishi kwa amani na wako wengi sana tanzania ndio wanaowaingizia nyie watanzania fikra za kuwachukia wanyarwanda ili wapate hifandhi na sehemu ya kuingilia manake kupitia congo wameshindwa sasa wanahamia tanzania na wanatafuta sympathy yenu ili waweze kufanikiwa na agenda yao....of which is impossible.

Angalau sasa hivi umejitahidi kuongea vizuri. Lakini najiuliza kama kweli Kagame ana nia njema na FDLR kwanini alichukizwa na pendekezo la Kikwete la kutaka awaalike kwenye meza ya mazungumzo? Kama nia yake ni kuwataka FDLR warudi Rwanda na kuwa sehemu ya Rwanda, kwanini hakumuomba Kikwete asaidie kuinitiate hiyo talk, badala yake anamdharirisha kwa kusema he utters nonsense? Huoni huu ulikuwa ni udhalilishaji wa hali ya juu kwa Rais mwenzake, tena aliyetoa pendekezo kwenye mkutano na si kwenye vyombo vya habari? Kwanini Kagame hakukanusha au kumrekebisha Kikwete pale kwenye mkutano badala yake aje kumshambulia kupitia vyombo vya habari? Kuna tatizo hapa.

 

[Kabembe]

Wow,what a bigot!

Koba huna hoja utabaki kutusi tu, Kagame and his Tutsi allies propaganda zenu zip nimestukiwa. How comes Watutsi ndio wafe wengi wakati ndio waliokuwa wamejiandaa kupindua serikali kwa kumuua rais!?

 

[rushasha]

I have been reading JF from afar lakini sasa nimeona kuwa if you want change be proactive no a spectator. For the past month or so nimeona comments nyingi kuhusu Kagame and the majority are hatred towards him. kuna msemo usemao " if majority of people hate/envy you then you must be doing something right". lakini vile vile nikisoma contents ya comments nyingi it shows that most of you are getting information from google....that is not the way to prove your point. Unajua watanzania wengi hawajui historia ya Rwanda. First of all if we did a poll here of all of you Kagame haters, 80% of you were less than 20yrs old in 1994. Thats right. You have no knowledge of the background of rwanda sana sana ni information you pick here and there from the net and then you qualify yourselves as experts on Rwandan history. Another thing that I have noticed is RWANDAFOBIA. This Rwandafobia is growing and i think if it is not addressed it will breed insecurity and this can be seen in most of the comments. There is talk of HIMA EMPIRE (lol) Hima Empire is a lot of bullshit and it just shows how insecure Tanzanians are because I have never read anywhere Kenyans mentioning Hima Empire. Its because they are confident in themselves and have no worries of this so called imaginary Hima Empire. I have never heard Congolese mentioning this imaginary Hima Empire. So lets ask ourselves, why is this only mentioned in Tanzania? U can fill in the blanks. I hear this that Rwandese wanajidai, wana kiburi, wanajiona wazuri,....these are very light comments...more of a jilted lover that a great thinker...kwa hiyo wote hawa wanaotoa comments kama hizi most likely met a rwandese girl akamtongoza mshichana akamkataa basi akachukulia kuwa hiyo ni sababu tosha ya kuwachukia wanyarwanda wote. kuna true story moja ya msichana mmoja wa kinyarwanda mzaliwa wa tanzania alitongozwa na afisa uhamiaji na huyo msichana alikuwa bado mwanafunzi alipomkatalia jamaa kwa sababu hakutaka kuolewa basi jamaa akaanza kunyanyasa familia yake mpaka wakarudishwa rwanda japokuwa wazazi wake walikuwa raia wa tanzania(pathetic mentality).

If I were to ask every on here why they hate rwandese you will be surprised of their reasons!!! Lakini what I want to assure you tanzanians....KAGAME IS GOING NOWHERE because he is an elected president of Rwanda just like Kikwete although I don't see what Kikwete has done for you except for being the only president in the wold who holds two portifolios 1.President 2. Minister of Foreign Affairs. so go figure.

Haya mambo ya sijui Kagame anapora mali za Congo is another bullshit. Hivi Congo hawana askari wao mpakani? Hivi tujiulize Wanyarwanda wanaweza kuingia tanzania wakafika kahama wakaanza kuchimba madini huku tanzania ikiwa inaangalia? It just doesn't make sense. For you information watu wanaoiibia Congo madini mengi ni MONUSCO.

So my advice to Tanzania. RELAX. BE CONFIDENT. DON'T FEAR RWANDESE BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN YOUR COUNTRY. WAO WANACHANJA MBUGA KIMAENDELEO HUKU NYIE MKIENDELEA KUPIGA GUMZO TU. NA KUJIVUNIA UJIO WA OBAMA. ITS NOT LIKE OBAMA AKIJA MATATIZO YENU YOTE YATAISHA. KESHOKUTWA AKIONDOKA TU. MTABAKI MNALIA NA GHARAMA MLIZOTUMIA KUMLINDA NA KUMKARIBISHA NA ATAKAEUMIA SANA NI MTANZANIA MASKINI ATAKAE KOSA DAWA KWASABABU HELA YA WIZARA YA AFYA IMEDOKOLEWA ILI KUTENGENEZA MABANGO NA T-SHIRT ZA KUMKARIBISHA OBAMA. VERY SAD.

It is not always true that, " if majority of people hate/envy you then you must be doing something right"..it may be true for other scenarios, but not with kagame!.. You are very wrong saying we pick info from here and there for contribution in this particular case; we know the truth, we have been to rwanda, we live with you tutsi here; we know you well! So dont think that we just speak out of ignorance!...again I can sense how narrow - minded you are, is it wrong to search information on google? which world are you living mwenzetu?..by the way, there is nothing like rwandaphobia, that is your own made up feeling!..Tanzania has nothing to fear about rwanda, if you understood well the comments of most of people here is to speak for President Kikwete and Tanzania as a country following your kagame's comments with regard to President Kikwete's advice on how to deal with the FDRL!..if you did not like the advice mngesema tu hapana kwa njia ya kistaarabu; lakini badala yake mkaanza matusi! Hivi mna akili kichwani kweli? au mlichokuwa mnataka na Rais Kikwete aanze kujibizana na kagame? It is better he kept quiet ili mjione mmeshinda! You tutsi are disgusting, disgusting, disgusting! ...style up!..About you robbing Congo; this is a fact, lakini kwa sababu siku zote nyie mnakataa ukweli kama mnavyokataa kuwa mliwauwa wahutu wengi pia, then you will keep on denying the truth; lakini siku yaja MUNGU akatapowahukumu! You are killing innocent Congolese in their own land only because of your expansionism ideology! Mfikie mahali muone aibu sasa! eeeeh

 

[Kabembe]

Ndugu Murutongore usipotoshe mada hakuna Mtanzania anayewachukia Warwandese, tumeishi na bado tunaishi nanyi kama binadamu wengine na tu-share facilities zote and even some of you are enjoying and live better than indigenous Tanzanians through government confer and still no hard feeling.Kitu pekee tusicho kitaka ni ukatili na ulaghai wa Paul Kagame, we don't need dictators kwa wakati huu, we need democracy to prevail and no wars.

 

[lokomu]

HAHAHAHA WHAT A RETARDED RUDI KWENU RWANDA mtutsi wewe